Costco Kirkland Irons VS TaylorMade P790 (SURPRISING!?)
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Sure, the Kirkland Signature clubs are way cheaper, but not when you include the 2 paddle boards and the gazebo you buy with them.
Can't forget the rotisserie chicken!
taylormade can’t do that
And the 2 gallon tub of sour cream
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Just need to play a full 18 holes with them now. Break 75, without Breaking The Bank! 🙂
A break 75 with all Costco clubs and balls would be awesome
At a costco course
@@lawbinson instead of bunkers theres pallets of bulk items around the greens
@@professorbiohazard4271 Yes! Hot dogs and pizza carts as well.
Can’t break 75 with his own clubs lmfao
Would love to see a full 18 with only Costco equipment! Bag, Balls, Glove, Driver, Irons, Wedges, and Putter
don't forget the wedges!!!
@@kamakitten Yes!!! Thank you! Fixed!!
It would still be golf...
Plenty golfers pretty sure are going to be doing just that
I love that Rick keeps referring to them as the Costco irons, just to remind these major brands what they are now competing with. A supermarket. Lower your prices fellas, you look RIDICULOUS right now. Who on God’s green earth is paying £1200+ for 7 clubs except silver spoon tories?
I love how you treat all brands with the same respect and a positive attitude. Most of the golf channels I follow laugh at sub-brands or copies of famous irons and approach them with a different attitude, resulting most of the time in a bias result that makes the whole test totally useless. Keep up the good work Rick, this is why you're the best youtube channel around!
great comparison, it really shows how much TM and similar brands are just marking up their products. Costco is really doing the golf industry a service to make golf more accessible with quality gear at a significantly more approachable price
Of course they are marking them up, however, they did pay their engineers boatloads of money to develop the clubs that then just get stolen by the Costco team.
@@fenixdown2396 TM stole most of the Technology from ADAMS ! New box set driver is basically the 2017 M2. Irons but when your owned by TM you can do these things.
@@fenixdown2396who stole from Wilson?
@@fenixdown2396it's literally not rocket science
Not being a lawyer, it’s difficult to see how TM could be successful in the lawsuit. There are so many clubs out there that look like they were copied from other ones. Also, just because they are similar, they are not the same. The insert material is sure to be different, no speed slot, chrome vs brushed, tungsten weight positioning is slightly different, etc. You can certainly make an argument either way.
The problem I have with the costs of equipment, is that it’s eventually going to hurt access to the game. Just 10 years ago, green fees, equipment, etc, were a whole lot more accessible. Today, overall costs of playing is moving this game back to an elite game. I doubt that’s what the businesses in golf really want. Golf will end up becoming an elite-only game again, like it was years ago. Not a good thing. I can’t even find a public course that costs less than $50 a round anymore. How are low or medium income kids going to get access to the game?
I would love to see a review of some takomo irons just because I have seen a lot of recent creators sponsored by them
Heard a few people say this!
@@HITGolfReviews yes pls give us an honest review of the 101s.. i brought them and ended up going back to my package set irons
@@TPW13 don't mean to make assumptions, but if you were on a package set, bladed irons like the 101s are probably not the correct irons for you.
@@HITGolfReviews I got the Takomo 301CBs, fully spec'd out, for like $700. They're awesome and have a great, clean design. You gotta try 'em, Rick.
@@HITGolfReviewsyeah and by a few you mean me over and over again 😂
If Costco wanted to sell these clubs by the cart load all they needed to do was put a more subtle logo on them.
They sold out almost immediately, goofy name and all. they'd sell by the cart load if they had a cart load available!
Simple strip of lead tape across that logo and you look legit. ;)
The logo sucks, belongs on a chips packet
I don’t hate the logo as much as everyone else but I do agree they’d look way better with a more subtle logo.
Maybe something like Rick’s RS logo but instead KS inside a circle or something or even just Kirkland in script without the “signature” part.
I say the same thing about Tour Edge. Excellent clubs, logo like a billboard.
for the extra 5% difference that the fitting will give you, the signiture irons seem the far better value for most golfers
$500 vs $1400 (both new).... crazy how Rick can give such a "similar" review but we're off $900!
Yeah just get a free store fitting and make sure you’re in the general ballpark. They are targeting the meat of the bell curve so if you fall in that area they should be good enough. But I’d bet you’d be better off just looking at a set 1-2 years old that more closely matches your specs for the same price
Nice! After taking a long break from golf after joining the military, I’m back in the market for a new set of clubs. Being out there is the best therapy. Your videos have taught me a lot about the new technology within these new clubs and make my decision much easier. Much appreciated. Good luck in the open!
If you weren’t aware and are in the US, PXG have a great deal for vets.
TaylorMade, Callaway, and Wilson give 15% military discount as well
Google best irons of recent few years for mid-handicappers. Buy a decent, clean used set of the one you like... but pay attention to the shaft. I wld recommend regular or stiff flex HIGH FLIGHT Nippon shafted irons. After your absence from regular play, the high flight shafts are what's the real God-send, not just the myriad cavity-back irons. That is my sincere advice, as a Golf Exec that's been in the game(pun intended) for a few decades. GOOD LUCK...Stay long and strong, Bud!!
good luck finding these irons anywhere
@@bertrenolds5they have them in the UK. They just got back in store over there, so maybe we’ll see them in the US soon.
Called it in the initial test video! Resale value will also be a factor but at £800 less, I can 100% guarantee which I'd prefer!
Or buy used, youll get more on resale, a better quality club that lasts longer and your costco clubs with that chrome finish would look way worse after a few rounds anyway!
Wait… Your Costco just has a full display of Kirkland clubs?! I haven’t seen them at my warehouse since they’ve come out
It's because there is a lawsuit over these and probably the wedges. You litterly cant find either in the entire united states so this video is pointless. If you want either you have to pay a massive markup on ebay or amazon and who knows how those people are getting them. It's complete BS
@@bertrenolds5 I've seen drivers in-store (in the US) and wedges and putters online but the irons haven't been seen either online or in-store since the lawsuit, unfortunately.
@@lsanchez841 no wedges or putters and they appear to be discontinued because if you search the item number it says unavailable, not out of stock. Doesn't even pull the item up
I did some digging, wedges are available in other countries and you can get the irons in the uk. I wouldn't hold my breath for either being available in the usa after all the lawsuits
@@bertrenolds5 all I know is I bought the wedges online about 4 weeks ago and two drivers (in-store South Carolina) 3 weeks ago.
It is really really cool to see the HIT channel with all the tech involved compared to when I first started watching Rick's channel in the early days of COVID when he had a simulator setup in his basement of his home (anyone remember him breaking his Cobra driver against the ceiling???).
Thanks for this new channel and the insight on the Taylormade and Kirkland irons. I'm looking to get a set of the Kirkland irons so my wife has a solid set of clubs for her early days of golf (already have the driver, wedges, putter, and golf balls). This confirmed I'm making the right choice for a nice "beginner" set of clubs.
He’s come a long ways from the driving range reviews
Is anyone else noticing how we’re getting teased in the background! I see that Taylormade mini driver and that callaway ti sitting there! Thats 2 videos in a row!
This comparison was pretty astonishing. Not sure if my ego would allow the Costco clubs in my bag. I’d never hear the end of it from the boys!
Then get better boys. Neither the ball jor the scorecard care what clubs you're playing...
P790's inconsistent spin numbers, which produce the 7 irons that occasionally fly 190, are why I went to the Srixon zx7
I bought the P790 irons 2 years ago and absolutely love them.
Hell yeah, love the audio comparison. You're right, there is a difference, but very small. Not even sure which one I prefer.
Mate I love your reviews I’m so glad you’re doing honest reviews not just doing what the manufacturers want you to say
Golf is 90% the person and 10% the equipment. 🤘😎
I really loved how you showed respect to both sets of clubs. I agree that Kirkland are limited in sets and selection. But, I hit some the other day at the range and really liked the way they felt. I have Ping i500's that I paid $400 for (demo set) and thought the Kirklands were similar in performance.
Great review Rick! Cheers!!!
I use callaway apex MB's currently, which i love. But i would love to see what you think of takomo 301 mbs compared to some of the big name brand blade irons.
I’ve been playing with the Costco irons since they first were released. I love them!
I go into Costco for butter and now will come out with an iron set and still forget the butter
Hit a 7 iron right out the middle in front of the wife then tell her there’s the butter 🧈 😂
Then you can go back for the butter and come back with a driver too
The real question is who needs 20 lbs of butter 😂
I paid £850 for brand new custom fit 2023 P790's from a pro shop, if you shop around you'll get them much cheaper than your standard rip off golf websites like American Golf etc. The quality is far nicer, it's like comparing the Kirkland putter (which I really like) to a Scotty Cameron, yes they 'look' similar, but look closer and the quality is different. The P790's have a more premium finish, better standard grips (upgrading these would likely cost £100 extra for the set), better shafts, plus the custom fit options are great.
If it's me and my budget is so tight I'm looking at Kirkland clubs, I would be buying used, £480 would get you amazing used irons, a nice set of 2021 P790's etc. I've seen great condition used 2023 P770's sell for £550 (bought some myself and swapped them out for my 90's)
The isuse with these less premium products isnt usually how they perform brand new in a vaccum, it's how they perform for different golfers with different needs, swing speeds, grips etc. It's also about how they last, golfers keep irons for years, then they get bought used and played by someone else, how are the kirklands looking in 5-10 years?
Spot on mate ....👏👏👏
Kirkland is better than p790. Price is king. You’re trying to convince yourself that what you spent was worth it. I play a set of irons from 2007 and I still demolish opponents with newer power irons . Why? I spent my money on lessons.
But that’s the smart thing to do. Surely most golfers just prefer to waste money buying these and then trading them in 1-2 years later when the next iron set promises them 2 yards. Used is 10000% the way to go for golfers on a budget
@@Labgorilla Exactly. Its amazing to me what people will say to try and convince themselves that they didn't get screwed.
If your not a professional golfer, and you bought a custom set of name brand clubs, you 100% got screwed. Period.
The "but how long will they last" BS is what always gets me. Its a set of effen irons. Unless you hit rocks or concrete with them, they will outlive everyone in these forums and then some. Just ridiculous coping.
A set of $150 wal mart clubs will still look great in 5-10 years unless your stupid with them and hit rocks and concrete etc.. Which would also destroy those soft a$$ P790s. Any irons out there will last forever if you take half a$$ decent care of them.
Would love to know about the durability of the irons too. I would think that the P790’s would keep their grooves for longer. How many rounds can the Kirklands take before showing wear?
I really liked you comparing the PW, 7i and 4i. Would be interesting, though more time consuming, to see a more in depth comparison to see if the gaping is consistent thru the set.
My current bag makeup is all name brand clubs. When I started decades ago, i couldn't afford anything name brand and I wasn't that good anyway and was just trying to improve my game. The design and quality of these Kirkland clubs appears much better than the typical big box store generic irons an aspiring golfer might buy.
I understand that TaylorMade is suing Costo - saying that Kirkland is a copy of their 790. I can't see a case here as there are so many hollow-bodied irons on the market featuring this design (that was developed by Wishon back in the early 1990's). Sour grapes if you ask me. Glad to see Costco bringing such good irons to market and helping to make golf more affordable. Great for those who can buy off-the-shelf, but unfortunately, I have to have custom made due to my height/arm length. Thanks for the review.
Wait, you do understand why they're suing or you don't? I think they are claiming 7 copyright infringements, which means they have taken a look in the clubs to check how they have been constructed.
@@josephhouguez3801 I have seen these irons and the 790's cut up and compared on another site and they certainly were not the same looking internally. Of course, Taylor Made is going to make the best case they can for themselves. It is all very amusing to me as Adams Golf sued TaylorMade for patent infringement years ago which led to TM buying Adams.
TM isn’t suing Costco for making a hollow bodied iron, its for infringing on copyrights. Every brand has a hollow body iron design but they arent suing each other for doing it. TM is alleging that the OEM for costco literally copied their design as opposed to designing their own hollow bodied iron
you can't find them anywhere so it doesnt matter anyways
Not the first time Costo tries to benefit from another brands design, and doesn’t sit well with me. The resale value of the Taylormade clubs will be much, much higher than Kirkland, so you won’t lose as much on your investment. I would also rather buy used top brand clubs than Kirkland. If Costco is just openly stealing designs, it wouldn’t surprise me if they are also paying reviewers to push their products.
I can't get past the Kirkland Signature script. If they just came up with a logo like Takomo and used the brushed satin look I would buy them in a heartbeat
I think if they used the same finish as the P790's, TM would sue them. If they haven't started something already. Aside from the finish, they are the same clubs with just a few minor differences like the finish and loft.
Definitely like the comparison. Could definitely see myself adding the Kirkland irons to the bag in the near future. My current irons are getting pretty old and worn. Might be time for a cheap upgrade…
Classic lines. Yes, clearly the Kirkland have been inspired by the P790.
Thing is Caley X irons do some irons that are also clearly inspired by the P790. Caley irons look a lot classier than the Kirkland. I think if we don’t mind what logo is on a set of irons then Kirkland have got to be worth a pod. And consistency is vitally important, meaning I can understand why these Kirkland irons are flying off the shelves.
I’d like to see how the Kirkland irons compare to the equivalent Caley irons.
thanks rick, pretty cool, dont need irons right now but will definitely keep an eye out for the kirklands in the future if im going for something good and cost friendly compared to the big names
Do you notice a gapping issue with the 8,9,and pw? 7 and under seem normal
Thank you for your video. But let’s be pragmatic. The TM P 790 are amazingly good golf clubs. They built up this outstanding performance over years of improvement and development. Any other supplier has the opportunity to copy and paste. And if a player has a smaller budget he might go for the cheaper option. Myself, I bought the P 790 last year and they are worth the money. No doubt about that. TaylorMade is high quality and this has a price. But thank you so much for your motivation to promote the other golf clubs. 😊😊😊🇩🇪
I played on a resort course and used the hire clubs which were the older generation of P970 - Other than being strong lofted, they are very good clubs and felt a lot softer than I was expecting...
£480 for a nice looking set of irons that feel good to hit and then spend the remaining £720 on lessons or use it for your golf membership. Absolute no brainer
Huge props for the “ROUND 1 - FIGHT!” Straight outta Mortal Kombat 🦂🥶
Just put the p770’s in my bag and absolutely love them… more true lofts and easier to dial in my numbers then the p790’s which are very strong lofted and long. Dispersion is much better with the p770’s I am still one who believes you get what you pay for but great review on a good budget set of irons.
Bought the kirkland wedges after watching Rick's review, and been very happy with their performance and feel. Sounds like the kirkland irons are going to be the next upgrade in my bag
Wow what a comparison 😮
This channel has been and still is the best club review channel. No bias what so ever, and I greatly appreciate that. 💪👍🇺🇸
Great stuff Rick. Mega irons and brilliant review
Ive been waiting for this!!!!! I just think Kirkland needs a simple “KS” label instead of the full all out wording covering the whole thing. Otherwise they look sooooooooooooooo good.
K-sig
Rick, you should check out the Maltby ts1 im. Pretty much the same price as the Kirkland but they will build them to your specs. Amazing feel to them as well. I highly recommend you check them out.
Great stuff. I assume this is the newest p790. I wonder if the orignal 2017 line stacks up as well. I would guess used 2017 clubs would be priced similar to a NEW Kirkland set in Canada (when its available)
Great review it also look like you hit the P790 left and pushed Kirkland right. Were the offsets similar?
How do the shafts compare? Furthermore, what are the shaft options on the Kirklands considering that you likely just buy them off the shelf.
Hey Rick. Love the work! Please please please can you test the Vice irons? The forged ones look beautiful.
Great review, interesting to see how similar they are.
I'm not surprised at your results. I switched to the Kirkland ball and love it. Especially the cost of course.
I would take both sets at this point! Nice review, well done!
Rick, as a ~22 handicap are these clubs for me if I can get my hands on them? Or should I look at more friendly clubs. However the kirklands are well within a budget.
Good luck Pete! Your game looks great! 👏🏻
Would love to see you include these irons in a budget bag round. Thanks for this comparison
Love seeing these low cost brands compared to the big, high priced brands. Would love to get your thoughts on Vice Irons.
Great review, would like to see how these Kirkland signatures compare to the Callaway Edges they also sell!
I just picked up the wedges and so far I really like them. They’re balanced very well, not too heavy in the clubhead but also not too light, the ball really pops off the face and I feel very confident hitting them.
To be fair. I know they are similar... but I would make the argument that you would get similar results from many different club manufacturers. So what I take away from this is play the brands you like. If you like playing quality clubs and you don't care about brands. Play Costco clubs, or Tacoma's, or Stix, etc. I personally really liked PXG's (for really no particular reason other than I thought they looked cool) but didn't want to pay $1400. So I picked up a second hand set of lightly used last years model for $600. I'm very happy with them.
very interesting. All things considered I would take a set of the kirklands. I do prefer the brushed finish of the p790s, but that's a hell of a price difference for looks.
Could you review the Lazrus irons and woods sometime? There are not many in depth reviews for them out there, and as an entry golfer on a budget they are very appealing. Thanks!!
Great stuff guys.
Have you tried the Takomo & Maltby options.
Great review!! I'm looking forward to seeing you play a round with them.
KSig copy of 790, which copied PXG 0311 that brought the hollow head iron forward and changed the game in a big way. We’re all extremely fortunate that fierce competition in the market keeps the cool stuff coming
I want to buy these clubs, but how do I know if I would need regular or stiff? I am 5’8, 175 lbs and lift weights. I have only played for a couple of years and on a great day I can shoot a 90, so I am still not very good. Anyone have any tips on this? I have the Kirkland wedges and I love them.
Rick, have you seen the new MacGregor DTC irons? They look pretty sweet. Would love to see a review. The MacSPD irons are also hollow body foam filled 🤔
The conclusions that I would make from your little experiment were that the clubs are very similar, and differences seem to be due to the differences in loft. Clubs that are stronger lofted (P790 PW, 7 iron, KSig. 4 iron) tended to go a little further, launch a little lower, and spin a little less. Just what you would expect. The Costco clubs look a great value as long as the shaft fits you.
I would like a review of the macgregors or a comparison to Kirkland i rons. These older company's seem to be making similar irons to 790's and are making them cheaper even Ram has come out with some.
It seems to me you could buy the Kirklands, have the heads pulled and get fitted for the shafts that fit your game, have them purchased/installed and still save money over the Taylor Mades. That said...the TM's do look much better in the brushed look over the chrome.
I've just started getting back into playing after a 17 year layoff due to a back injury. I'm currently playing with an 18 year old set of Ram Wizard II irons and would like some recommendations for a new set of irons on a fairly tight budget.
What a quality set of clubs for someone new to golf who doesn’t want to spend a fortune. As always great review. 👍🏻👍🏻
Always been a Mizuno player and still have a set of their irons however 18 months sgo I decided to go for a fitting and cant believe i picked the P790's with stiff shaft 1degree upright and midsize grips with three layers of tape underneath. I have to say the Mizuno irons for me are a little more forgiving but centre strikes the Taylormade's are so buttery smooth and feel great. The Kirkland clubs represent incredible value but they come in a one size fits all and im not sold on the shiny finish however, they appear to be a carbon copy which could lamd them in trouble though I would be surprised if Costco hadnt checked this with their legal team beforerelease for sale.
Funny you say that. Taylor made are suing them.
Anybody know when they'll be available (in-store or online)? Been checking for months and can't find anywhere (USA or Canada)
Incredible results!
Rick please review Takomo golf Irons and wedges next
The Callaway edge set Costco has is amazing as well.
Good comparison video Rick
Nice review Rick
Basically physics is physics - you have a hard head hitting a small soft ball. The mass is the same, the lofts are much the same, the shaft length and dynamics are much the same, and the USGA R&A rules are there!, and in the end physics wins ..... but golfers still buy for 3 main reasons:
(1) want to buy
(2) need to buy
(3) love to buy
Golf brands including ours - Q Golf - all tell stories that are plausible and we golfers want a reason to buy 😁
I game Cobra Forged TecX irons. Technology is very similar to these clubs. Price is somewhere in the middle. Very forgiving. Lots of choice in this category of irons.
Rick definitely needs to do a Break 75 video with these clubs! Your stikes were amazing with the Kirklands.
Bought both the Kirklands and the Takomos to compare with a friend’s p790s. IMO Takomos feel way better and are easier to hit, very similar to the p790s. Kirkland’s are noticeably clickier even if you middle it. Went with the Takomos. Would love for you to do a head to head with the Kirklands and Takomos
What a play by the people behind the Kirkland clubs. Never had to do marketing knowing all these content creators review them.
If you went to a metal finishing place Rick SHIELSY baby.... you could get those Kirklands looking sweetbix!!!
Might be a wicked video too mates
My local golf shop will add the extra 1/2 inch lenght I need for feck all but can't change the lie angle so unfortunately I am out 😢
So, in other words, buy the Kirkland irons when they are available.
Exactly what I have been waiting for since the release of the Ksigs. Thanks rick.
there's almost a slight delay in sound from the P790 compared to the kirkland, which sounds more immediate. Makes the P790 sound a bit softer I think.
Really intrigued to see what you think of the takomo irons!
Great video, Rick.
I love the look of those Kirkland irons
12 handicapper and I play p790’s. Tried others but nothing comes close for me. Power, forgiveness and look amazing
Awesome video, I would love to see a video on the Takomo 101’s
I just think its impressive that some out of the box clubs are performing so close to the custom fit clubs. I would be curious if you had the costco clubs re-shafted to your fit, how the numbers may change in comparison to the p790's. Would they actually pull ahead of the p790 if properly fit? Obviously the added cost of refitting them is unrealistic to their intended purpose, but would still be really interesting to see how their club heads fare on an apples to apples test.
Couldn't be more impressed with the Kirkland clubs from what you've shown. It's seriously impressive
Rick please compare both clubs with the Takomo 101. 🙏🏾Love the content 👍🏾
Like how you had the sound comparison. Finally getting deeper into review instead of "I just liked it better"
Good luck finding these in stock anywhere
I've noticed that when you test clubs you hit a straight shot usually ending up on or near the green but when you're on the course you try to shape shots that can miss the green by a country mile?
I still can’t wait for you to do a video of a full set . And 18 holes. 🤞
If u could walk into Costco and get those Kirkland custom fit then they would be the winner. Always remember custom fitting is the best option
Can't wait to watch the full bag of KS clubs round, might be revolutionary to the game of golf
Good review. Proving that you dont need to spend a fortune on clubs to get a great set. TM did the R and D on these clubs years ago. This is the 4th generation with these clubs. You could argue that this has paid off for them. They can't keep trading on the fact they spent money developing them. They've certainly had a return on the investment. They could start making them more affordable now.
I ordered P790's from AliExpress last season- I love them but was largely due to the fact that I was using super beginner/old clubs. Everyone asks me if they are like the real deal and I just shrug and say to me they are, but I don't know any better 😅
Would love to see you order some and compare against the real deal!
Vice golf irons review? Im super keen to see. Wouldnt swap my current irons out the bag but i am very curious