What Even Is This Club - TaylorMade P790 Irons Review
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Taylormade Golf has released the new P790 irons; who could game them, and are they any better than the last TaylorMade P790 irons?
In my full review, I take these new irons onto the golf course for a full rest to see if the TaylorMade marketing machine lives up to the hype regarding their golf irons.
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Ahhhhh, “Let’s get stuck in”. Like old times. Love it.
7 irons is 1800 CAD, 1045 quid or 895 for 6
#yesplease!
Thanks for taking us to the course, so much better review .the spin numbers, sound , feel comments outside mean so much
Fully agree with you. I have for years played forged blades with traditional lofts, Mizuno MP-33s and now another that is almost identical to the MP-33. But I also admit at age 82 it would be nice to have some lost distance back. My 34 degree 7 iron used to be my 150 carry club 20 years ago, then 140 10 years ago, and then a year ago down to 130. My clubs had 120 gram stiff Rifle Lite shafts, needed lighter, so had a second set of the same heads built with 87.5 gram Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 stiff shafts. That helped add 5 or 6 yards carry on average, up to 141 on a perfect shot. This past week I tested the new Titleist T150 and T200 7 irons with Nippon NS Pro 950 GH R flex shafts at the PGA Superstore I go to that has practice bays with Foresight GC Hawk launch monitors. Was pleasantly surprised, got added carry with essentially the same height, descent angle and spin. Then a day ago I tested the 2023 P790 7 iron with a DG 95 regular shaft. Previously had not found the P790 appealing for sound and feel. But this time I was really impressed. It looks good, topline not too thick even for me. It sounds good, there is a definite crack to a good strike, but it is a solid one, not at all tinny. Best of all, I got 14 yards more carry on average, which one might expect from a 30.5 degree loft versus 34 degree, but in addition I got 6 to 7 mph more ball speed, even greater peak height, less than one degree lower descent angle, and the runout (total yds vs carry) was less, meaning the ball will stop on the green better than with my own 34 degree 7 iron. Ironic, no? (Sorry, couldn't resist the pun.) I have always thought that the trend to stronger lofts was kind of a marketing gimmick, and turning a 7 iron into a 5 iron might give more distance, but at the expense of a lower descent angle and longer runoff, so shots would not hold the green. But the P790 has proven me wrong. And you are right. TM is really on to something.
Thanks for this insight
Hi would just like to thank you for this as I am on same path as you and this will help me in my future golf
Thank god someone can do a decent review of the p790 very good mark anybody thinking of buying these do not watch RS review on how not to hit a golf ball
Just came from his video and was extremely concerned.
I waited until I broke 90 to get myself a set of irons (that’s 2 years of saving up!) and bought this set 3-4 months ago.
There is always a honeymoon phase with golf equipment, but these have to be the best purchase I made toward my golf game. My 4th round with them I shot an 83! I usually shoot low to mid 90’s. Haven’t shot higher than 92 since I got these clubs.
I feel much more confident laying up and hitting 4 iron off the tee instead of driver, being rewarded for playing it safe is always nice (most of my strokes are from hitting it OB with driver).
How about your GIRs? I always hear these irons have hot spots and dispersion front to back not great.
@@mre_man Considering I went from Nike Cavity Back irons the dispersion is much better for me.
Let me preface by saying everyone’s swing is different, but when I hit these vs the Titleist T-200’s my dispersion was much tighter with the 790’s and distance wasn’t much different.
The distance was nice in my fitting, coming off Mizuno MP18 blades, but what sold me on the clubs was 1) The dispersion, it was as tight as I have ever seen when I got the right shaft in it, 2) I was able to still work it (just not as much). I also did not have any hot shots after 2 hours of testing, they were all pretty much within 10 yards of each other and this was with me hitting normal all over the face shots and a few with a positive angle of attack. I was trying to get more forgiveness with the same workability I am accustomed too with my Mizuno's. Also testing the 225's and those were similar, but not as good of dispersion for me and I liked the muted satin look of these better. Yes, in the end, looks still matter. Great review Mark, really liked the distance control at the end that is super important!
What was your gapping like? I've read comments and seen other videos where PW-9-8-7 are spaced out and then 4-5-6 are bunched up. But this is likely a function of the strong lofts and swing speed of user.
@2013YASLS it wasn't bad at all with the 2023s, if you look at the lofts at the top of the bag they are much more traditional that you would think.
Same here I had mp-4’s which I loved but hitting the height and therefore stopping in 6-4 irons is what sold me. I have titleist wedges 58, 54, 50 and 46 to make up for the distance of my p790 wedge.
Love the throwback review Mark! The iron looks the biz… but, that is definitely some big dent in the pocket for someone like me.
Would be great to see you do a head to head comparison with 2021 790’s. Only because I trust your opinion over so many others that are doing reviews. Thanks.
Other reviewers have done this (ahem, TXG). Slight improvement in spin & descent angle. The more interesting story is that they tried to make the flight more consistent through the whole set with the different structures inside each iron.
Got fitted 2 weeks ago, came down to these and the cobra forged tec. Ultimately the cobras had a tighter dispersion and slightly more distance. For me, the cobras were the obvious choice, for someone else the p790’s my be the right fit
Gorgeous looking iron💯👍
I am lucky to play 3 times a month and when I switched from players irons to game improvement irons I dropped from a 9 to a 4 handicap with no practice! Never going back!
Great review 👏
Your swing has evolved more than clubs have brah!
💯
@@MarkCrossfieldI visited Newquay last week and it prompted me to watch your old video with Buzz, Harper and Pickard. Your swing is unrecognisable. Everything was pat pat!
Hi Mark,
Any chance you could do a compare of the Titleist T200 vs these P790's..?
awesome video mate! those irons look so dam nice!
Playing Rsi1 irons for last 8 years. Would P790 or Stealth irons be a huge improvement in accuracy ? Thank you. Love the videos
How do you feel about the gap wedge in this set? Worth using or do you recommend buying 50 degree?
If i was to go for a fitting these would, with out question, be in the test.
Hi Mark, will you be doing course vlogs again in the future?
Mark, that Cleveland golf hat is 🔥
Yeah I love it.
How do they compare to the previous 2021 P790?
miss the part you compair them to the last model, as you said in the beginning. they look more like players irons where the older model looked a bit more chunky..
Looks like they have taken design ideas - elements from Ping i230 ..
Just taken delivery 😊
From photos I have seen it seems surprisingly close to Stealth maybe too close and people say that with Taylormade you should always have lofts and lies checked
Any feedback on how they perform around the green? Having gamed a set of 2019 P790s having moved from Mizuno blades, I could not get used to how the P790s performed around the greens and in the end went back to Wilson staff blades. I don’t need more speed, just a little more help with off centre strikes on my 4 iron.
Play a forged wedge and 9 iron. Best of both worlds!
Hi mark..... how would you compare these to your zx4 mk11s? pls
What do you think about a combo. P790 4-7. P770 8-p?
I know looks shouldn’t matter, but I am getting a bit tired of the matte finish on the irons. I’d like to see a set that looks like my 2020 P770 irons. Mostly brushed steel with a bit of shine and just a little stripe of matte where the model number is.
Performance is paramount, but looks in the bag also matter when I’m dropping $1200 plus on a set of only 6 irons. Wish they had more of a Titleist T-series look to them.
Mark idea? 3 styles of iron head with different shafts for 70, 80 and 90 mph swing speeds what data would you achieve? Only you could make sense of that?
Mark how comparable is this to the Srixon ZX4?
Looks like you found the previous years price. These are more for the 2023 version which you tested.
They are not cheap. I ordered a set two days ago to replace my 2019 model P790s and it cost some serious cash. But I have always liked these irons, they fit my kind of game.
These are the irons that someone that hits the ball well, but doesn't have that extremely fast swing speed, could use. I am in my 50s and just don't hit my clubs as far as I did just 10 years ago. Knowing that I looked at clubs that could improve my ability to get my irons out there a bit farther while at the same time still have some kind of control.
Are the 2023 version of the irons better than my 2019? Probably not to be honest. Distances were identical. Dispersion seemed pretty close. The biggest reason I changed was because my current set was bought used and the lie angle is about one degree off from what I need. I have trouble fading these irons and no trouble drawing them and it turns out they were 1.5 degrees up. Even bent back they were still to high. But, if it wasn't for that I probably wouldn't switch.
Love my 2019 ,don't think I'll switch just yet but if I didn't already own p 790 I would be wanting these.
@@garrywilcox2921 I probably wouldn’t have either except for the lie issue I have with the irons. They were 1.5 degrees upright and after bending are about 3/4 upright. It’s better but I still tend to hit shots left. After fitting I don’t have this problem. I agree that there probably isn’t a major need to change if you hit the current set well.
Will the 2nd hand market explode when pricing for new stuff has become mental? There is virtually tons of great clubs available on that market. At less than half the price compared to the new blingy stuff that’s been pushed out now
I have always liked the looks of the P790 right from the first version onwards. When I have tried them I like the performance, a bit longer than my i210s and spin is a touch low for me but both of those difference are purely loft driven. There are 2 downsides for me - they are just a bit too big for my eye (the P770s though are perfect) and unfortunately I have a bad experience of TM's manufacturing quality control in the irons or maybe it is just that their manufacturing tolerances are a bit too loose.
I am not anti TM, my driver is a Stealth. Is there likely to be a new P770 soon?
New P770 irons came out this year and look a lot like second generation P790.
I am using all TM clubs and honestly have had no quality issues with anything from the M4 up to my new Stealth 2 driver and woods, so don't let that put you off. If you don't like the looks however, I'd stay clear.
@@theythinkimmadyouknow in fairness it was a few years back with a set of M1 irons but the lie angles were random, the 6i and 7i had almost the same loft and the filling in one of the speed slots fell out within a couple of months of getting them. M1s were a really hard iron to bend back into correct loft and lie. Moved onto Ping i210s which when delivered were all exactly in accordance with spec. But I do like TM clubs, am considering the new MG4 wedges which look really good
@@justinstephenson9360 yeah, the mg4 looks really good, kinda thinking about them myself!
Manufacturing tolerance for which attribute? Are we talking about lie & loft or actual component tolerance?
The only issue I have is the flatness tolerance for the 2020 P770 irons and 2019 P790 on the back (non playing side) face. Their flatness spec is either very large or their Cpk is very small but yet acceptable for sign off on. On those models of irons, you tip them to the light and you see a lot of oil can dents fresh out of the wrapper. I sent back my 4-iron and 8-iron from my set because of this. TM did send me 2 replacement irons that were much better. I think this is the reason that they went to a Matte finish on the next gen. The matte finish hid any imperfections. I wonder if later runs of the earlier P770/P790 had this flaw due to tool wear - maybe their tools weren’t touched up since they knew that were moving on?
After hitting the full set, would you recommend the Gap wedge with that set vs a vokey if we typically take full swings with that club? Wondering if the 45 degree wedge is going to leave a big gap with SW, etc
Would recommend the AW. The PW is pretty strong lofted and you will have a pretty big yardage gap between it and your SW. I like my P790 AW alot
I went and got fitted at Golf Galaxy. I hit every brand. Using their launch monitor we dialed in to the 790. Spent time getting the right shaft and you can see on the monitor the difference. Love them and my game is improving. I still have to spend time on the range.
STOP IT, another honest review of a taylormade product.
Haha I know, someone has too do it.
Very thick top line
Haven’t seen lockey in a bit did i miss something?
Although 47.8 degrees is a decent angle, is it a descent angle?
Haha
Wait until you see the Angle Wedge (AW)
I wouldn't want to demo a club with those adjustable fitter's hosel.
Would this be the 4th version of the p790? Or was this a review for version 3?
It's the latest version.
@@MarkCrossfieldI'm still on version 1, they're holding up nicely. Hey do you have a video on dropping the hands at the start of the downswing? I'm having trouble starting the swing like a whip but also dropping at the same time. Feels impossible to both.
7 piece set 1800 Canadian dollars
Watching Marks swing in slow motion. He gets to the top and his wrist is perfect. When I get to the top my wrist bends causing my right arm at elbow bend even more. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO STOP IT FROM BENDING ON THE TOP OF THE SWING? Played golf for 10 years but even people that just started golf dont have that issue.
Normally, I turn straight off when mark reviews Taylormade product, I have been a „follower“ for years, but let’s be honest he hates Taylormade. I agree their hype on new clubs can be too much, but, they are now the biggest brand in golf. Hence the Pros they have on the rotate. So nice to see a half honest review, if you ignore the little ‚digs‘
When i checked TM site directly, I see the following for P790s:
2021 $1099.99 for 7 clubs (4-PW)
2023 $1399.99 for 7 clubs (4-PW)
2023 $1599.99 for 8 clubs (4-PW, AW)
So older model will he about $160 per club while newest is $200.
Note: Amounts are US Dollar.
Mine (2023) were $1399 USD for 7 clubs + shaft upgrades, grips and the fitting lol. You're numbers match mine though, it is what it is I guess.
It really is staggering how much these things are now. I'd get fit but buy used heads and shaft accordingly. Probably a far better deal if you can work on clubs yourself.
Wait a year and get this years model next year when its cheaper ;)
Just can’t beat the ZX5 mkii. Looks and performance are magic and tend to cost less than clubs like P790
The new New NEW P790
25 handicap - Should i get Stealth or P790
You should get fit, test both. 👍
Go Wilson..
Is it any better then the first version 2017😂😂🤯🤷🤷
Not really.
Dispersion better? Spin? Flight ?
@@paulmcgee1867 dispersion would be IMPOSSIBLE to measure (it would be player specific not club)
Flights pretty much the same. Nothing is moving remember. They look a bit different and sounds can change.
No magic here. 👍👍
@@MarkCrossfield exactly my thoughts they just look prettier possibly their the same club TM have a winner here so why change it ...anyone who wants to buy look at 2017 and the nicest one imho are the 2019 model...even so I play srixon zx4s love em
@@MarkCrossfield I will stick with my Sim2s then!
I want a guitar review😂
Haha they are both epic.
We should compare collections !
I game 2019 P790…….no need to change.
My advice…..buy some 2019’s they will do the same thing and be 30% of the price.
Plus unless you play off 2, don’t bother with a fitting waste of time
Just make sure the length is correct and lie angle is standard
Looks like a Takomo 101T...which is about half the price.
And the caleys
With a 1/3rd of the resale value. When I buy clubs they have to have resale value on the back end. The DTC companys are nice up front....but no one wants to buy it on the back end.
@@MXJEFF94 anything I buy will have limited resell because they're 1" longer and 2 degrees upright, stiff with midsize grips.
Been saying this for years. Please stop kicking the clubs 😢😮😂
This club is a custom fit club!
Those are some solid chem trails behind you lol
It's all fun and games till the face cave or crack. But don't worry "TaLoRMade WiLl rEplACE it FoR fRee".
5 to wedge is £1200 but most sites have them on offer already for £1050 a lot of money and if you want an Approach or 4 iron then your looking at around £1300 plus. For a new set of irons and woods it’s over 2k now it’s sickening
Agreed..$2800NZD for 4-PW😭😭
$2800 NZD😭
What happen to course vlogs, I miss the muppets. Bored watching how you hit a ball and remakes of clubs that are all the same.
How can you review a set of clubs with progressive "Flighted CG" with just the 7 iron? The practice of sending out 7 irons as review samples needs to change. This review tells me nothing because as far as I can tell the reviewer hasn't even played the clubs. One club does not a review make.
You believe one club will flight/launch/spin in the window but the other won’t.
If so, please find me the unicorn 🦄 field when you find it.
I think they look terrible. Somehow look chunkier. T200 looks miles better while in same category. Still manages to look like a players iron at address.
I learned nothing
Haha 😂 haha 😂 this is wild if you think about it.
The video is packed with info.
Doug could
know about this club already,
Know everything ever,
Not watched
Not listened,
Or just be a troll.
Very hard to know which. Apart from that, great comment.
We learnt nothing from your comment. Hang on; maybe we learnt everything. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Players Hollow body, there I named them
The T350s are too good this year to be looking at anything else in the category
Yeah they are nice.
Different category. The direct competition is the T200 & they're VERY similar.