If you look at video 548, posted ~2 years after this one, he was able to pick an Abus lock with the plus core. I'd love to see what he'd do now with 2 more years of experience past that.
A 20/70 on a hardened steel hasp screwed into rotted wood isn’t a lock, but a handle. I could put my foot up there, and then *Yank*, and there goes the corner of the shed.
I was cleaning my car out the other day at a local car wash. Just out of curiosity, I looked to see what padlocks they had on their vacuums to lock up the change.. and they were ALL Abus Diskus 20/70's. Needless to say, I was pretty impressed!
The worst part about the 28/70 is there are only 14 different keys that fit all of them, and they're the most used lock in the car wash industry. The Master lock may be easy to pick but at least it has 10,000 possible keys.
I find it hilarious that Walmart only carries Master, Brinks and their own HT locks, but if you look at the propane tank racks and most other padlocks they're using, it's all Abus.
"im not even adept at disc detainer locks" 5 years later: "and now with the tool bosnianbill and i made ill pick this lock in 5 secs" watching older videos is fun to see how far LPL came its wild to something take such a huge 180
Disc types are already harder to cut. At this point, the weak link is likely the hasp on the door. The harder they have to work, the more likely they are to take five steps to either side and steal somebody else's stuff instead.
I got the 20/70 based on the fact that "i won't be picking open this lock because i can't" from LPL i used it to secure a shipping container moving across the country.. all arived safe and sound :) TY LPL
Well, this is a very old video. He has picked thousands more locks and gained knowledge and skill along the way since then. I expect he would have less trouble with it today, 5 years after making this video. But yeah, it was uncommon to hear him say that.
After I picked the first lock I ever tried - a chinese disc lock sold by the self-storage place, in ~20 seconds, with zero experience - I bought the 20/70 Abus. Nice to see its value confirmed. Thanks for these great videos.
I picked my first lock today after watching many of your videos. The lock was the same as the cheap Chinese one in this video. I have to start somewhere. Thanks for all the awesome content
Hi The Lockpicking Lawyer, I just wanted to thank you for getting me interested in lock picking, I just bought my first set of picks and tention wrenches and a see through padlock, had so much fun picking it! Yet again thankyou! 😊
Thanks for this video! I will now be returning my "High Security" Master disc and buying the Abus 20/70. It's a shame none of the major retailers in the USA sell actual decent pick resistant pad locks.
Did they do that on purpose? That would be how they sell locks - to replace the one that was picked or trashed. You probably have to design the thing (metal doors, whatever) so that the lock is not easily accessible (forcing the thief to have to pick it blindly), and you can only access it blindly (feel for it, put the key in, and turn it before you can even take the lock out from behind the door). However, I don't think you have doors like that in America, where the hasp for the lock is BEHIND the door, not in the front.
You haven't learned? Nothing here is ever about quality. That's why an entire bridge collapses once it gets hit by a ship, that's why Boeing makes such bad airlines, that's why our streets have potholes, etc etc
It does operate very smoothly. The cylinder on those is so glass-smooth, opening and closing it is as satisfying as popping bubble wrap. You can actually catch yourself standing there operating it a few times just to enjoy the feel and sound. What a beautiful cylinder.
I ordered an Abus 20/70 and then realized I had better check with Lock Picking Lawyer. After this video, I ordered a second one. LPL- The most trusted name in locks.
It's a whole different ballgame when that same lock is on a storage shed facing away. And pouring down rain with a small crowd standing behind you looking over your shoulder.
I'm a former locksmith and our local storage units used discus. To save time we just used the old "rotary pick". (Cordless drill through the shear line). If the lock was on backward, we used a 120 v angle grinder with an inverter in the van. :-)
What if the lock was BEHIND the door with an inside hasp accessible only with hands through slots in the door? You couldn't get any tools in there and would have to damage the door to access the lock. Even if you were a lock picker, you'd have to pick it blind because you can't see the lock at all.
@@highball7347 Today, I'm in a situation where this is no longer a concern, as I have moved to another place, which has high-security and the neighbors are always home for one reason or another. Plus, I can lock the sturdy bedroom doors, and I'm on the third floor.
@@stephanieellison7834 How do you find this Abus 20/70 Lock with the security core? It never says anything online about the security core he specifically mentions
$40 for the Abus 20/70 is a lot less expensive than $140 for a Bowley. Plus, if the cretin beats on it after failing to pick it, it is less of an issue than a beaten-up Bowley. THANK YOU for this informative video!
I have been watching your videos for a long time and enjoyed them. You got me interested in trying to learn this craft. It is at this point I realize that as far as using your videos to try to learn isn't really that great. So I have to say thank you for getting me interested but I really wish you explained what you were doing more. However I get that you aren't gonna change any type of format just bc one person in your comments "complained" have a great day. Thank you again but it's time I move on to more descriptive channels
That last lock was given to me by a friend and I could never pick it open. One day while waiting for a car key to be programmed at the BMW place, I had finished a Popsicle and used the wetish stick on the lock. I was just listening to the radio when all the sudden the lock opened. Within an hour, I had opened the lock 20 times. :)
Such a nice video. Sad to see these cheap Chinese disk locks-which I have now tossed as a result of your video-opened within seconds. I bought an Abus 20/70 KD (keyed different), and with the Abus hasp it provides a LOT of protection for a garage. Excellent lock. Then, I bought three 20/70 KA (heyed alike).. Out of the box, one has chunks of the black material (paint?) that have apparently fallen of the shackle. Maybe it's paint, but I originally thought it might be some sort of dark metal. I'll be sending it back to Abus if they confirm the shackle may be compromised. Also, that locks sticks, so if its paint that fell off inside, it may be interfering with the smooth opening. One thing to note for those who buy, however. I store items at an Extra Space store facility (don't care for their management). If you don't want to use their standard cylinder lock, they give you a strong red plate that allows you to install your own lock. Unfortunately, the 20/70 is about a millimeter (maybe less) too large to fit through the hole on the door plate. Very disappointing, since I bought three of them. I'm considering trying to enlarge the hole in the plate slightly with a drill bit, in order for it to accommodate the 20'70, but it looks like very hard material. And sadly, the next lock down, the 25/70 may fit, but is not •nearly• as secure as the 20/70. Sorry to be long-winded. Just adding my two cents. Thanks for your video, and any advice you may have.
HI @LockPickingLawyer, thank you sharing with us your exploits. I've got a question after you and BosnianBill co-developed the disc detainer pick in 2019 or so, were you able to revisit the Abus Diskus 20/70 with Plus core and pick it successfully using the pick-tool you co-developed?
I've been binge-watching my way through your channel (new subscriber), and I wonder if you'd do a series on locks you can't yet open, like Bill has? Keep up the good work.
I recently bought a Master Lock "Magnum" disk lock and was able to open it with _every_ pick variation I have (except wafer picks) including zipping it with a tension wrench. The funniest was when I used a snowman pick.
A friend of mine has one of those disk pad locks. He used to use it with a chain on his motorcycle. I shocked the hell out of him one day when I unlocked it using a home made tension bar and pick while we having a couple of beers.
+de Ronchopathe The 20/70 has 8 discs (2 guide discs, and 6 actual "key discs"). The front anti-drill plate is also a disc. The 20/80 has 2 guide discs, and 6 actual key discs as well, but it also has 2 anti-drill plate discs on the front as well. (I have a 20/80.)
I think the most surprised I have been on CZcams was the part in this video when you said you couldn’t pick the last lock. Kept waiting for Rick Astley to pop out. 😂
I have one of the Master locks on my storage unit. I knew they weren't great but didn't realize they were that easy to pick. I will have to consider getting a better lock sometime. There's nothing of super high value in the unit anyway. The problem is that it's hard to find anything better than Master Locks (though I know they aren't really that good) in stores. Years ago I had to get into another storage unit I had that was secured with a disc lock (probably a Master Lock as well) but I had lost the keys. I borrowed an electric angle grinder from the rental office and I had the lock cut off in a few minutes.
Yup, those Master 40's are not very hard to open. The Abus 20/70 would be an excellent option. As for the grinder, there's really no defense against that other than supervision.
when i see these locks, i always need to think about my dad, because he used to use them. i still have some he used and they works still fine for over 20 years.
My boss locks up about $30,000 worth of tools in his tool trailer using that same master lock. He's had a trailer stolen in the past but they literally cut off the part that attaches to the hitch along with the hitch lock and welded a new one to the trailer and drove off with it as if it belonged to them.
Great video and nice picking. I also consider disc detainer locks to be very good. Less likely to get picked (special tool needed and not very common to be picked) and robust as no springs are involved. Again: Very much enjoyed watching.
+Potti314 Thanks, and definitely agree on the disc detainer locks. Someday I'll invest the time, but there's too many others on the "to do" list before then.
😊 awesome I have never picked a lock or even held lock picking tools until today I purchased a professional lock picking set for just over a $100 bucks and found a master lock similar to one of the ones you show and in about 5 minutes I picked that lock open, I have a ridiculous amount of picking tools that i have no idea which is used for what I didn't have a tension bar exactly like yours so L shaped pick as tension bar and it worked so im assuming that's what that is if it's not please tell me what it would be used for, for me it's now a tension bar lol
I managed to get into one of the abus disclocks a couple years ago with some WISH picks. I had to use a hell of a lot of tension just to get the pins to bind though
Love your channel dude. I'm in South Africa and here crime is on another level, while having a good lock of things is certainly good the usual method of robbery usually involves shooting the victims.
+waddac2 Thanks. Yes, the tension tool I use on the third lock is one of the Peterson flat five. I don't use them much unless that's all that fits in the keyway. Most are too bendy for my liking.
+LockPickingLawyer Yes I know what you mean regarding others being too bendy as on may locks they can keep dropping pins and you cannot control counter rotation as accurately.
I noticed something while watching you pick these locks. If they were in use you would not be able to hold them the way you are in the video. If they were in use you would be picking in the downward direction which adds a level of unfamiliarity to the experience. Have/would you try this and share your thoughts? Thanks, I learn a lot watching you.
You are the only locksmith I respect on this because you are the only one that admitted there was a lock you were unable to pick. I intend to buy the 20/70 as one of the two locks I will use to lock my bike (which is very dear to me). The other is the Abus combo 190cs/60 have you tried that one? I have asked the other youtube guys and none has ever tried it, or responded to me. Thank you.
Great video, is the 20/70 more difficult to cut and is the shield thicker than the other ones? I saw a video where an unknown brand disc lock is being cut using a bolt cutter right through the shield.
Never had a disc padlock so I got one from Biltema a store that sell cheap car parts and more for 8$. It was a 70mm looked like the one on bottom left no name only said F305, 1000 and the size 70mm, 2 3/4" on back. It had a very small keyway and 5 pins and thought not the best to practice on but what the heck. It was one of those locks that would not stay closed opened it with all 8 of my .015 picks from my Praxis set just had to put them in and wiggle up and down a few times and it was open lol.
I have got one from my mother, she use these to secure her barn with horses inside. That disc padlock has only three pins and i can pick it in seconds and i have beginn picking locks only 2 weeks ago xD its really funny with this lock xD
I bought the master lock at my local exchange; it actually feels easier to rake the pins and open it than to use the key (the key gets stuck a little bit). I maybe have a couple hours of experience picking locks.
I got nervous for a second. I just bought the 20/70 abus, so whew* happy I did and am thinking also about one of their granites or a Mul-t-lock MT5+ #10 C-Series. waht do you think about those
Very nice video, great picking. Disc padlocks are rare here, so people believe even more that they are super secure. But strangely the few I saw around were noname (with exceptions of one abus). It's never a good sign when manufacturers omitted to put their logo on product.
In all recent LPL videos featuring disc detainer locks he picks them pretty easily using the special tool that he and Bosnian Bill designed and made. I wonder if he ever managed to pick them the old-fashioned way? He has had 3 1/2 years to figure them out, and I bet that he probably would manage them now.
I was disappointed in myself, tasked yesterday to remove two Masterlock No.40 locks, which I was unable to pick. Granted, both were locked in place beneath shackle shields, not leaving much room to work, and didn't have the luxury of holding the locks in my hand to pick, but still, thought I'd have an easy task. Felt defeated, having to resort to drilling them out.
LPL, if a key can open it, then you can open it. You may not have the correct tool right now, but if you wanted to take the time to open it, I believe you could open any lock. Picking I have watched you open some locks that I never even thought possible to open, yet you find a way. My opinion, thanks
Since all the disk keys rotate clockwise on the 20/70 if you put a drill bit in there as it chews into it going clockwise would it eventually open it ? Thank
Surprised how easy the first two were,I have only experienced the standard(3) Abus and found it surprisingly easy. Never seen the DD Abus before but unless it's like the granit I would think it would be quite straight forward.🤔🤔 Nice vid as always sir😘😘👍🔓🔓🔓🍻
I bought an Abus 20/70 with the Plus core. I was surprised to see very little bidding on the key. Is this a problem? Should I buy another and hope to get a more varied key?
Just to add , I am adding a second dead bolt on the left side of this metal door, because the bolt only goes into the wood 2x10 frame 1 inch , the door flexes enough if I pull on the left the dead bolt pin will come out of the hole. There is a 1 inch wide rubber seal each side that allows this to happen . If there were no seal then it would not be possible.
WOW I'M APPALLED THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY A LOCK THAT LPL COULDN'T GET IN!!! ONLY TIME I'VE HEARD HIM SAY HE COULDN'T PICK A LOCK WAS THE LOCK THAT WAS ACTUALLY A STICKER AND THAT MADE SENSE,, WELL IF HE CAN'T GET IN THAT ONE I THINK I'LL BE USING IT FOR ALL MY NEEDS WHEN IT'S TIME FOR A LOCK
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LPL needs to revisit that last lock and open it using the disc detainer pick that he and Bosnianbill made.
If you look at video 548, posted ~2 years after this one, he was able to pick an Abus lock with the plus core. I'd love to see what he'd do now with 2 more years of experience past that.
I was just about to leave this comment.
Omg I need that video. Come on my man.
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I've got a 20/70 on my bike shed. Realised quite quickly that the shed is the weak link in the security chain.
A 20/70 on a hardened steel hasp screwed into rotted wood isn’t a lock, but a handle. I could put my foot up there, and then *Yank*, and there goes the corner of the shed.
and the 20/70 was the "valuable goods inside" neon sign, i guess xD
When I try to purchase this lock online I don't see it saying anth about plus core
@@NoeticSystemggg. D
I was cleaning my car out the other day at a local car wash. Just out of curiosity, I looked to see what padlocks they had on their vacuums to lock up the change.. and they were ALL Abus Diskus 20/70's. Needless to say, I was pretty impressed!
the owner of that car wash knows his/her locks, i wonder if they sport pick?
I bet they got ripped off more than once before that decision was made.
The worst part about the 28/70 is there are only 14 different keys that fit all of them, and they're the most used lock in the car wash industry. The Master lock may be easy to pick but at least it has 10,000 possible keys.
Jeremy H. Same here
I find it hilarious that Walmart only carries Master, Brinks and their own HT locks, but if you look at the propane tank racks and most other padlocks they're using, it's all Abus.
"im not even adept at disc detainer locks"
5 years later: "and now with the tool bosnianbill and i made ill pick this lock in 5 secs"
watching older videos is fun to see how far LPL came its wild to something take such a huge 180
Do you happen to know if the new tool will open that lock?
@@davidmercer5561 Yeah, it's a disk detainer pick
I'm using an Abus 20/70 on my storage locker; glad to know I made a good choice there.
Just got one delivered for my storage. I've got the modded banggood pick, but I doubt the local thieves do.
Disc types are already harder to cut. At this point, the weak link is likely the hasp on the door.
The harder they have to work, the more likely they are to take five steps to either side and steal somebody else's stuff instead.
FYI - LPL had already leveled up and can now pick disc detainer cores.
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I ordered two and both came with the identical key. So chances are I can open others too
I got the 20/70 based on the fact that "i won't be picking open this lock because i can't" from LPL i used it to secure a shipping container moving across the country.. all arived safe and sound :) TY LPL
Why is no one talking about the fact that the LPL just said straight up “I can’t pick this lock”.
Because it was from before Bosnianbill and he made the lock pick.
He probably can now. Apparently the front weather cover interferes with the first disk, but he's picked this core in other locks.
Well, this is a very old video. He has picked thousands more locks and gained knowledge and skill along the way since then. I expect he would have less trouble with it today, 5 years after making this video. But yeah, it was uncommon to hear him say that.
After I picked the first lock I ever tried - a chinese disc lock sold by the self-storage place, in ~20 seconds, with zero experience - I bought the 20/70 Abus. Nice to see its value confirmed. Thanks for these great videos.
I picked my first lock today after watching many of your videos. The lock was the same as the cheap Chinese one in this video. I have to start somewhere.
Thanks for all the awesome content
I’m going to order 2 of these Abus 20/70 locks. I finally found what I’m looking for. Thank you LPL😊
I’m absolutely grateful for you and all the work you put into your craft. ⚡️🦈
Me too!
Me three! Thank you for your pace and for being so clear when speaking. My hands and ears appreciate it sir.
I am so happy that I have the fourth lock on my storage unit, two locks, side by side. They weren’t what you call cheap!
Hi The Lockpicking Lawyer, I just wanted to thank you for getting me interested in lock picking, I just bought my first set of picks and tention wrenches and a see through padlock, had so much fun picking it! Yet again thankyou! 😊
That 20/70 is a great lock, especially considering the reasonable price.
Yeah like wtf
Where do you find it? I looked online, but it doesn't say anth about plus core
@@luperamos7307 I just bought the 20/70 on Amazon for $39 and it came with the plus core. It was only mentioned in the description, not the title.
I was looking for a good lock for my storage unit. This video was great advice. Thank you!
I like people that are honest. When you admitted that you couldnt pick the abus 20/70 i grew interests in being your subscriber.
Thanks for this video! I will now be returning my "High Security" Master disc and buying the Abus 20/70. It's a shame none of the major retailers in the USA sell actual decent pick resistant pad locks.
Did they do that on purpose? That would be how they sell locks - to replace the one that was picked or trashed. You probably have to design the thing (metal doors, whatever) so that the lock is not easily accessible (forcing the thief to have to pick it blindly), and you can only access it blindly (feel for it, put the key in, and turn it before you can even take the lock out from behind the door). However, I don't think you have doors like that in America, where the hasp for the lock is BEHIND the door, not in the front.
I have a jammed lock and knew nothing about the tools needed to open it. Thanks to the video for sharing instructions.
You haven't learned? Nothing here is ever about quality. That's why an entire bridge collapses once it gets hit by a ship, that's why Boeing makes such bad airlines, that's why our streets have potholes, etc etc
Coming from 1000+, bingeing the glorious backlog, you have progressed so much LockPickingLawyer.
I appreciate you, your videos, and the locks.
Thank you!! I really needed some knowledge about the 28/70 model, which you showed!! Now I know I can get thru it quite easily!
I bought the Abus Diskus 20/70 (Abus Plus) because I figured if YOU couldn't pick it easily, that would be a good choice for a storage unit.
It does operate very smoothly. The cylinder on those is so glass-smooth, opening and closing it is as satisfying as popping bubble wrap. You can actually catch yourself standing there operating it a few times just to enjoy the feel and sound. What a beautiful cylinder.
I finally seen a quality lock ! Good to know,,, TY Sir,,, I luv all your videos, just awesome,,, 😁🖒🇺🇸
I ordered an Abus 20/70 and then realized I had better check with Lock Picking Lawyer. After this video, I ordered a second one. LPL- The most trusted name in locks.
The last abus lock is also fairly affordable. Only $50. I think that is the best value lock out there
How do you find it though? All the locks I saw online don't come with the security core he specifically mentions.
It's a whole different ballgame when that same lock is on a storage shed facing away. And pouring down rain with a small crowd standing behind you looking over your shoulder.
That's what I was just thinking. It's obv easier to pick these when you can hold it in the optimal way with nothing impeding your hands or tools
I'm a former locksmith and our local storage units used discus. To save time we just used the old "rotary pick". (Cordless drill through the shear line). If the lock was on backward, we used a 120 v angle grinder with an inverter in the van. :-)
What if the lock was BEHIND the door with an inside hasp accessible only with hands through slots in the door? You couldn't get any tools in there and would have to damage the door to access the lock. Even if you were a lock picker, you'd have to pick it blind because you can't see the lock at all.
@@stephanieellison7834damn that’s a good Idea lol
@@highball7347 Today, I'm in a situation where this is no longer a concern, as I have moved to another place, which has high-security and the neighbors are always home for one reason or another. Plus, I can lock the sturdy bedroom doors, and I'm on the third floor.
@@highball7347add a trap door hatch that slams shut after being opened for 15 seconds making picking super hard
@@stephanieellison7834 How do you find this Abus 20/70 Lock with the security core? It never says anything online about the security core he specifically mentions
$40 for the Abus 20/70 is a lot less expensive than $140 for a Bowley. Plus, if the cretin beats on it after failing to pick it, it is less of an issue than a beaten-up Bowley. THANK YOU for this informative video!
Bet you can’t pick my nose.
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A nice click on 2
Have just the tool for that.
Is it shimmable?
just ordered a 20/70 to use on my storage unit. thanks for the recommendation.
Just purchased a new bike and was looking for a good disc lock. Thank you for your review.
It's so satisfying hearing those pins slap past the shear line
Yes very much. Wish they'd do that for me
Very clear and simple. thank you!
+Mihai Muresan Thanks.
Abus invented this style of lock. I have an Abus 90mm version and it's a beast.
I have been watching your videos for a long time and enjoyed them. You got me interested in trying to learn this craft. It is at this point I realize that as far as using your videos to try to learn isn't really that great. So I have to say thank you for getting me interested but I really wish you explained what you were doing more. However I get that you aren't gonna change any type of format just bc one person in your comments "complained" have a great day. Thank you again but it's time I move on to more descriptive channels
Awesome ! Abus Diskus 20/70 it is , Thank you Sir 😀
That last lock was given to me by a friend and I could never pick it open. One day while waiting for a car key to be programmed at the BMW place, I had finished a Popsicle and used the wetish stick on the lock. I was just listening to the radio when all the sudden the lock opened. Within an hour, I had opened the lock 20 times. :)
Such a nice video. Sad to see these cheap Chinese disk locks-which I have now tossed as a result of your video-opened within seconds.
I bought an Abus 20/70 KD (keyed different), and with the Abus hasp it provides a LOT of protection for a garage. Excellent lock. Then, I bought three 20/70 KA (heyed alike).. Out of the box, one has chunks of the black material (paint?) that have apparently fallen of the shackle. Maybe it's paint, but I originally thought it might be some sort of dark metal. I'll be sending it back to Abus if they confirm the shackle may be compromised. Also, that locks sticks, so if its paint that fell off inside, it may be interfering with the smooth opening.
One thing to note for those who buy, however. I store items at an Extra Space store facility (don't care for their management). If you don't want to use their standard cylinder lock, they give you a strong red plate that allows you to install your own lock. Unfortunately, the 20/70 is about a millimeter (maybe less) too large to fit through the hole on the door plate. Very disappointing, since I bought three of them. I'm considering trying to enlarge the hole in the plate slightly with a drill bit, in order for it to accommodate the 20'70, but it looks like very hard material. And sadly, the next lock down, the 25/70 may fit, but is not •nearly• as secure as the 20/70.
Sorry to be long-winded. Just adding my two cents. Thanks for your video, and any advice you may have.
I would just drill out the plate. Get a good quality drill bit, drill at slow speed, and use cutting oil if necessary to prevent overheating.
HI @LockPickingLawyer, thank you sharing with us your exploits. I've got a question after you and BosnianBill co-developed the disc detainer pick in 2019 or so, were you able to revisit the Abus Diskus 20/70 with Plus core and pick it successfully using the pick-tool you co-developed?
I've been binge-watching my way through your channel (new subscriber), and I wonder if you'd do a series on locks you can't yet open, like Bill has?
Keep up the good work.
Welcome and thanks for the sub. I'll consider a video like that.
I recently bought a Master Lock "Magnum" disk lock and was able to open it with _every_ pick variation I have (except wafer picks) including zipping it with a tension wrench. The funniest was when I used a snowman pick.
A friend of mine has one of those disk pad locks. He used to use it with a chain on his motorcycle. I shocked the hell out of him one day when I unlocked it using a home made tension bar and pick while we having a couple of beers.
Lol. He should use an Abus 20
Was looking for a lock for storage. Thanks!!
That was great brother . Very informative. I will definitely consider sinking the extra money for the top dog of the lot
I was gonna say LPLs skills have significantly improved and he could pick that 20/70 now, and that tool he made specifically for these types.
2:24 ... When the Master Number 40 first came out it had the same "yale" paracentric style keyway as the first lock.
My favorite part is how they turn it upside down to make it easy on themselves.
another great video, thanks Harry.
+richardwales Thank you.
Thank you for this video, I did not know this Abus 20/70 seems fabricated on the same base as the Abus plus (which contains his 9 discs).
+de Ronchopathe Thanks. It's definitely an Abus plus core (at least that's what it says on the key card). But it might have fewer discs. Not sure.
+LockPickingLawyer It's possible...;)
+de Ronchopathe The 20/70 has 8 discs (2 guide discs, and 6 actual "key discs"). The front anti-drill plate is also a disc. The 20/80 has 2 guide discs, and 6 actual key discs as well, but it also has 2 anti-drill plate discs on the front as well. (I have a 20/80.)
luckily as a german the best Abus is pretty accessible rn for me. thanks for this video making my choice quick and easy❤
They also have a dimple key one....have it on a shed....i forget the number....but love that you can put the key in any way you like.....
i just got a crash course on disc padlocks, thanks LockPickingLawyer
I believe the key mechanism on the Abus 2070 has changed in 7 years and I see comments that it was picked long ago
found an abus diskus in my garage. will be using it to look up my shed from now on
I think the most surprised I have been on CZcams was the part in this video when you said you couldn’t pick the last lock. Kept waiting for Rick Astley to pop out. 😂
Need to get one of those 20/70 plus for my shed & an Avocet ATK/abs for my front/back house doors :]
I have one of the Master locks on my storage unit. I knew they weren't great but didn't realize they were that easy to pick. I will have to consider getting a better lock sometime. There's nothing of super high value in the unit anyway. The problem is that it's hard to find anything better than Master Locks (though I know they aren't really that good) in stores.
Years ago I had to get into another storage unit I had that was secured with a disc lock (probably a Master Lock as well) but I had lost the keys. I borrowed an electric angle grinder from the rental office and I had the lock cut off in a few minutes.
Yup, those Master 40's are not very hard to open. The Abus 20/70 would be an excellent option. As for the grinder, there's really no defense against that other than supervision.
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Yes, but how many thieves have the time and patience to actually try picking the lock? At night no less.
when i see these locks, i always need to think about my dad, because he used to use them. i still have some he used and they works still fine for over 20 years.
*Thank you.* *Smiles*
You've advanced so much. Now that disc detainer is nothing.
Hmm didn't know the abus had a disk detainer lock. awesome!
+vde The Abus Plus core is very goo. Not quite protec2, but very good.
The 20-Series Diskus and the Granit 37-Series and the 88 and 89 Brass Locks are all disc-detainers by ABUS.
The Discus are always fun to pick, little keyways .
+LDU2U And then you see the Abus 20/70 and 20/80, and go "mother" in your very best Daffy Duck voice.
+LDU2U They are... then again, I think everything is fun to pick. :-)
My boss locks up about $30,000 worth of tools in his tool trailer using that same master lock. He's had a trailer stolen in the past but they literally cut off the part that attaches to the hitch along with the hitch lock and welded a new one to the trailer and drove off with it as if it belonged to them.
Well done!
Great video and nice picking. I also consider disc detainer locks to be very good. Less likely to get picked (special tool needed and not very common to be picked) and robust as no springs are involved. Again: Very much enjoyed watching.
+Potti314 Thanks, and definitely agree on the disc detainer locks. Someday I'll invest the time, but there's too many others on the "to do" list before then.
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😊 awesome I have never picked a lock or even held lock picking tools until today I purchased a professional lock picking set for just over a $100 bucks and found a master lock similar to one of the ones you show and in about 5 minutes I picked that lock open, I have a ridiculous amount of picking tools that i have no idea which is used for what I didn't have a tension bar exactly like yours so L shaped pick as tension bar and it worked so im assuming that's what that is if it's not please tell me what it would be used for, for me it's now a tension bar lol
I managed to get into one of the abus disclocks a couple years ago with some WISH picks. I had to use a hell of a lot of tension just to get the pins to bind though
You've come so far l, you'd totally pick that lock today
Thankyou....you have fullfilled my Padlock Fetish!👍
Love your videos. Any step-by- step tutorials?
Love your channel dude. I'm in South Africa and here crime is on another level, while having a good lock of things is certainly good the usual method of robbery usually involves shooting the victims.
Great video and love the final abus lock. Are you using one of the flexy peterson 5 wrenches too?
+waddac2 Thanks. Yes, the tension tool I use on the third lock is one of the Peterson flat five. I don't use them much unless that's all that fits in the keyway. Most are too bendy for my liking.
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Yes I know what you mean regarding others being too bendy as on may locks they can keep dropping pins and you cannot control counter rotation as accurately.
i love the Diskus® 20/70 i really want one
I noticed something while watching you pick these locks.
If they were in use you would not be able to hold them the way you are in the video.
If they were in use you would be picking in the downward direction which adds a level of unfamiliarity to the experience.
Have/would you try this and share your thoughts? Thanks, I learn a lot watching you.
You are the only locksmith I respect on this because you are the only one that admitted there was a lock you were unable to pick. I intend to buy the 20/70 as one of the two locks I will use to lock my bike (which is very dear to me). The other is the Abus combo 190cs/60 have you tried that one? I have asked the other youtube guys and none has ever tried it, or responded to me. Thank you.
Great video, is the 20/70 more difficult to cut and is the shield thicker than the other ones? I saw a video where an unknown brand disc lock is being cut using a bolt cutter right through the shield.
never heard him say "this is not a lock I can pick"... but i guess this is 5 years ago...
Dang he has been at it for at least 4 years
Never had a disc padlock so I got one from Biltema a store that sell cheap car parts and more for 8$. It was a 70mm looked like the one on bottom left no name only said F305, 1000 and the size 70mm, 2 3/4" on back. It had a very small keyway and 5 pins and thought not the best to practice on but what the heck. It was one of those locks that would not stay closed opened it with all 8 of my .015 picks from my Praxis set just had to put them in and wiggle up and down a few times and it was open lol.
Check out my playlist of disc padlocks... there's at least a few dozen on there, and you will see that quality and pick resistance varies greatly!
Never seen a master one of these before but have seen the rest. Nice idea to compare them though and you made short work of picking them too
+Steensy Thanks... just picking one was hardly worth a video, and picking them all is more fun anyway (at least, all but one).
+LockPickingLawyer true for a picker of your level, other way round if still be on my first one haha
I'd love to see you pick an AMP Lock padlock or trailer hitch lock.
I have got one from my mother, she use these to secure her barn with horses inside. That disc padlock has only three pins and i can pick it in seconds and i have beginn picking locks only 2 weeks ago xD its really funny with this lock xD
Dude, you're badass.
I bought the master lock at my local exchange; it actually feels easier to rake the pins and open it than to use the key (the key gets stuck a little bit). I maybe have a couple hours of experience picking locks.
I got nervous for a second. I just bought the 20/70 abus, so whew* happy I did and am thinking also about one of their granites or a Mul-t-lock MT5+ #10 C-Series. waht do you think about those
Very nice video, great picking. Disc padlocks are rare here, so people believe even more that they are super secure. But strangely the few I saw around were noname (with exceptions of one abus). It's never a good sign when manufacturers omitted to put their logo on product.
+Mike Pergl Thanks... my guess is that the no-name locks are Chinese specials. Most are real garbage... definitely not to be relied upon.
new subscriber ad was wondering for a newbie which pick set would you recommend
In all recent LPL videos featuring disc detainer locks he picks them pretty easily using the special tool that he and Bosnian Bill designed and made. I wonder if he ever managed to pick them the old-fashioned way? He has had 3 1/2 years to figure them out, and I bet that he probably would manage them now.
I did the Master in 8 seconds flat. My bro bought it for me to pick. LMAO
immediately when I hear "this is LPL" I know this is an old video. I can hear it in his voice ☺️
My god, I have found it... the lock that LPL couldn't pick. I feel as if my eyes have fallen upon something they were not worthy of.
I was disappointed in myself, tasked yesterday to remove two Masterlock No.40 locks, which I was unable to pick. Granted, both were locked in place beneath shackle shields, not leaving much room to work, and didn't have the luxury of holding the locks in my hand to pick, but still, thought I'd have an easy task. Felt defeated, having to resort to drilling them out.
1st time I’ve seen you say “I can’t” lol
LPL, if a key can open it, then you can open it. You may not have the correct tool right now, but if you wanted to take the time to open it, I believe you could open any lock. Picking I have watched you open some locks that I never even thought possible to open, yet you find a way. My opinion, thanks
Since all the disk keys rotate clockwise on the 20/70 if you put a drill bit in there as it chews into it going clockwise would it eventually open it ? Thank
Surprised how easy the first two were,I have only experienced the standard(3) Abus and found it surprisingly easy.
Never seen the DD Abus before but unless it's like the granit I would think it would be quite straight forward.🤔🤔
Nice vid as always sir😘😘👍🔓🔓🔓🍻
+Pick Beard Thanks. I'm pretty sure that the core in this lock is the same as the Granite core (i.e., Abus "Plus").
+LockPickingLawyer It's a 6-disc version of the Granit's cylinder (which has 7-discs in it).
ganzonomy I didn't know that -- thanks.
I bought an Abus 20/70 with the Plus core. I was surprised to see very little bidding on the key. Is this a problem? Should I buy another and hope to get a more varied key?
In finland we have all that last one lock in doors, no one pick it up :)
LPL, Now that you have the disc detainer pick that you and BosnianBill made, could you pick the last one?
Just to add , I am adding a second dead bolt on the left side of this metal door, because the bolt only goes into the wood 2x10 frame 1 inch , the door flexes enough if I pull on the left the dead bolt pin will come out of the hole. There is a 1 inch wide rubber seal each side that allows this to happen . If there were no seal then it would not be possible.
WOW I'M APPALLED THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY A LOCK THAT LPL COULDN'T GET IN!!! ONLY TIME I'VE HEARD HIM SAY HE COULDN'T PICK A LOCK WAS THE LOCK THAT WAS ACTUALLY A STICKER AND THAT MADE SENSE,, WELL IF HE CAN'T GET IN THAT ONE I THINK I'LL BE USING IT FOR ALL MY NEEDS WHEN IT'S TIME FOR A LOCK
i love the diskus 20/70
+Olivier Cauffopé Me too. That's a lock I would use!
What brand of tools did you use to pick the locks I lost my storage room key now I have to pick it