Jiu jutsu is one of the most over rated forms of martial arts. You can be expecting to defend your wife and kids by hugging a dude on the ground. Jiu Jutsu works in mma and only mma because of the rules and it only works against fighters who have absolutely no ground games. If jui jutsu was that good, the jui jutsu fighter will be ruling the UFC. The simple style of punching someone in the face or kicking has always worked in all formats and situations. Not even a single jui jutsu champion in the current UFC says it all.
I’ve been doing jiu-jitsu for a while and it’s really fun. The only issue is that things like the UFC have given people false overconfidence in it, they don’t realize that almost every rule in the UFC is to protect jiu-jitsu/wrestling and other grapple/ground fighting styles from strikers (with very few exceptions) it’s a whole different story when the person can stomp on you and soccer kick you in the head, or use knees to the head on the ground. Be well rounded and do multiple arts. And always remember, in the real world the ground is hard and people have friends.
I train too. Boxing first and now BJJ. You’re 100% correct. Also their friends have smaller friends that fit in their pocket and make a really loud sound.
@@yvng_manu2159no he's right, joe is making a false comparison. He's comparing a big and small kickboxer to a small guy who knows bjj and a big guy who doesn't. A small kickboxer can defeat a guy who doesn't know what he's doing, pretty obvious. Joe just has a major bias for bjj
@@GojimaruI don’t think BJJ is the one you want for self defense it’s the worse to defend against multiple opponents and at least with kickboxing or even karate 😂 you can kick someone who has a knife and run BJJ is a great martial arts style but I’d never put my life on it
@@Under-Kaozwdym very little? Nobodies pulling guard in a street fight dude if there untrained against someone who knows what they’re doing there gonna get fucked up
@@fredk6992 yeah that goes for a lot of things. McDojos aren’t a martial arts gym they’re scams. I can train Muay Thai but if I don’t train well or push myself then I’m done.
@@OhScat Again, did you watch the short? they're clearly talking about a weight difference bigger then 20 pounds. "small guy/a lightweight" vs a "250 pound guy/heavyweight" That's nearly 100 pound weight difference. No, kickboxing is not saving you in that weight difference.
@@fahid3342if bjj wants to be relevant it needs to make changes to the rules: penalize guard pulling, shorter rounds, and more no gi. That said, its still a crucial part of mma.
I love MMA to death but this shit of flyweights beating dudes over 260 lbs doing weight training is so overblown! Technique matter to an extent but MMA Fans are taking it too far. No 135 lbs human isn't fucking up Brian Shaw or even a dude who is 100 lbs over and does any sort of strength training
I think it’s the opposite, if a big guy sits on you it’s gonna take all your energy to stand up while the big guy is barely breaking a sweat, it only takes one good hook to knockout anyone, big or small
Big people have the advantage against small people in both sports. It’s really hard to land a punch on someone a lot bigger because they have longer arm reach and are taller, so they are far more likely to hit you multiple times before you can even hit them once. And if someone is really big and strong, they probably have a hard punch too, so they are going to knock you out before you get the chance to knock them out. And in jiu jitsu, having that crushing weight on you is really hard to do anything. Also, people with really strong grip are hard to control in jiu jitsu as well because once they grab hold it’s almost impossible to move.
@@jessicablack9960if you are an athletic man and at least 5'10, you can generate enough power to spin most heads, of course not against someone 100 lbs heavier with a strong neck who sees it coming, but at a certain size you have the power to knock even bigger people out (usyk vs fury fight for example)
@@vynd287 I agree with that. I’m not saying it’s impossible to knock out someone bigger. I’m just saying bigger people have an advantage and the more difference there is between big and small people the harder it gets for the small person, which applies in both striking and grappling.
@@jessicablack9960well a street fight is different because you have the luxury of possibly being in an enclosed space etc where shorter arms will benefit. Like a bar fight.
@@outis439-A yeah but street fighting is just different in every way lol. There are no rules and it depends a lot on the situation, who strikes first, etc.
He’s talking about bjj as a sport. If a smaller bjj black belt like takes a bigger kickboxer down they’re dominating in that position. Only if he does take him down, on the feet is a different story.
Jiu jitsu is a very good self-defense system but it is not the only self-defense system that delivers as advertised You must remember it is the individual and how he employs his self-defense system in a survival situation the proficiency of the individual and his adapt ability to apply that which he has learned in a unexpected situation is the key!
“If you’re really good and that guy doesn’t know what he’s doing” Same with boxing dude. Tank Davis could out box a 250 lbs guy that doesn’t know what he’s doing.
@@squiddwizzard8850 he’s arguably the best boxer at 135 lbs. I genuinely don’t think a bad boxer could touch him, and if they did he could probably roll the long so well that it wouldn’t do much
Weapon combat is the only martial arts that's actually all technique except for when you take in the fact that the big guy can carry heavier weapons or calibers, and heavier armor. Yep I'm blackpillef
Guys what OP probably meant was Usyk is a natural cruiseweight who bulked to go against natural heavyweights and he is still umdefeated. He even beat Fury. Therefore Usyk is beating people bigger than him.
I would argue the same for kickboxing as both are complex equally in their own way so if you're drastically more skilled you can kill a larger opponent
Rogan’s comparison didn’t make sense. A lightweight kickboxer will lose against a heavyweight kickboxer. The same goes for BJJ. The heavyweight BJJ will beat a lightweight.
My Bro, I’m sorry but you’re wrong. Mighty Mouse who fights at 125lbs in MMA is a brown belt in BJJ and just beat a 265lbs brown belt at an open weight BJJ competition!
@@aaronjobbins3885your wrong in that the belt system isn’t perfect. At regular persons brown belt isn’t equal to a pro fighters brown belt. Mighty was that guys physical superior because his body is a trained and honed weapon. Other dude is just big and filled with cheetos.
@@aaronjobbins3885Mighty mouse is a different breed. For most people, if both you and your opponent know jiu jitsu, the bigger guy has a huge advantage. Joe is right that you have a chance but unless your skill in jiu jitsu is so advanced and you have practiced for over a decade consistently, the odds of you defeating a 265 pound brute at 125 pounds is slim
Ive seen small muay thai guys beat dudes a foot taller and multiple weight lasses heavier. Even small guys can have knockout power when you add in kicking, so BJJ is not the only martial art that "works as advertised"
@@bidenisaclone that has exactly nothing to do with what Joe is talking about. The point of my comment is that striking can also "work as advertised" as he said here, it's not just BJJ
There’s literally hundreds of videos on this platform of street fights, jiu jitsu competitions, MMA matches, etc. where a fighter overcomes 100 pound weight difference using submission grappling.
You can say the exact same thing for boxing. If a lightweight boxer fights a big guy that doesn't know what he's doing. The lightweight will more often than not fuck him up.
It is literally the opposite. Size matters more in grappling. I boxed with heavyweights for more than a decade and I’m around 75 kg. if you know what you are doing, you can fight with a heavyweight. But in grappling, a heavy guy can just sit on you if he is half decent. The glazing from joe is insane
The irony is that jui jitsu is a subset that broke off of Judo. Judo teaches some ground game and specializes in take-downs, whereas Jui Jitsu specializes in the ground game and teaches some takedown. In the age of MMA, if more practitioners took Judo seriously and trained it as hard as BJJ, they would have a difficult style to defend against. Especially if they don't otherwise have a strong wrestling pedigree. A good judo throw can be more devastating than an average wrestling takedown.
It's always skill vs skill... Up to a point. A huge strong boxer gets messed up against a small one if the skill level is far enough apart. Eventually, once the levels get closer, size will take over. It's no different in BJJ. No different.
I hope this is out of context. BJJ has weight classes like other sports for a reason. Yeah a smaller highly trained dude will be an untrained big dude in boxing, mma, muay thai etc, that's not a BJJ thing.
well in video mighty mouse was shown (the small guy) fighting a bigger opponent in a tournament so no your observation is wrong cause the bigger guy is also a trained jiu jitsu fighter who also lost
Had some bloke getting aggressive a few months ago to me and a friend said he was purple belt judo or Jiu jitsu whatever. He was I ended up asking a few people about him. I train Muay Thai I have no experience with the ground game he took me down I slipped out of he's grip and soccer kicked him to the face that ended the fight real quick... Nothing but respect to anyone that trains but if the only thing a lad knows how to do is roll be prepared to have your face jumped on.
@@JC-km5xw He would *throw* you, but that 8 stone Judo guy probably has other ways of beating you, especially if they're a black or brown belt. Same with Jiu Jitsu. There's methods for everything.
@@Adonisius_Kavata if it was jiu jtsu ive been at for 24 years so I doubt it, but skills aside this is just absolute bs to the point people just complain if you "use your strength" rolling in bjj
But ppl forget that qorks only in bbj competition. In a real fight bjj doest bring whats promised at all. You just get stomped out trying to get an armbar or you get smashed by some wrestler because you cant wrestle. Or you zry to go in and get a grip and wake up half a minute later to notice the other guy could box and knocked you out
Clearly you haven’t done contact sports or aren’t any good. Demetrius Johnson has beaten guys twice his size. Being too big isn’t a good thing either. If size is everything then everyone would look like bodybuilders in the ufc
bro if you are against multiple opponents you run if you are against one you RUN but if you have to fight 1v1 than you can certainly go to the ground and fight him
Wrestling too. Coach used to have me bump up a weight class from 170 to 182 sometimes during my senior year (I wasn’t cutting weight at all. I was like 174 at most). I won every match I bumped up in.
Yes, but the issue is that it only works of its a one on one fight. On a real street fight, no one is letting his buddy get choked and will use the jujitsu guy’s head as a soccer ball.
Wrestling too, when I first joined and even now i wrestle the coaches kid and he’s like 130 rn and I’m 175 and he still beats me or used to because it been a while since we’ve wrestled freestyle. And I went against him in Greco and he is strong like almost my strength and I’m kinda new to Greco and he’s been wrestling since he was a kid
In jiu jitsu Technique and Strength have the exact same degree of importance. Because when the opponent has much more strength than you, almost all your techniques won't work with him even if he's beginner in grappling. Strength and stamina is tremendously important in grappling beside technique.
Punching (in all form of MA) is the best.. it's just like spear, no need time to learn n brain to operate and get effective in the batle.. JJ is like doble daggers.. it's cool and speedy.. but need big time, hard work n talent to make it effective in batle.. In the war.. for regular person ..better give em spears than fancy double daggers..
Not really, there are a lot of variables. If you kinda know what you're doing and are way fitter than your opponent you can defend until they get tired. Then it's fair game.
@fredk6992 maybe skill would triumph in a competition style spar but if your 135lb fighting for your life against a 270lb dude your gonna get hurt really bad.
Joe’s statement just contradicted itself. “If you’re a small dude and know jiu jitsu you can beat any big dude”, so can other martial arts too…. If a big dude and small dude are equal in bjj experience the big dude wins.
Perhaps a 5 foot 11 20-year-old 170 lb man who's been training in Muay Thai 15 years vs play 6'4 235 lb man has been a kickboxer for 10 years one of them has seriously trained in bone density enhancement I'm going to pick that one to win
I jujutsu is important for MMA, especially but we seen guys like Ryan Hall and Paul Craig get finished on the ground because they got to jiu-jitsu heavy I’m not a fighter but you gotta have good defense like a lot of people like Muay Thai I believe cause they think it’s cool or whatever there is weaknesses like boxing if you don’t have good boxing like sometimes guys try to take too many punches or their guard isn’t right when you got good boxing and Muay Thai you got good defense as well as good hands you’re gonna be better than the basic guyI’m not a fighter, but this is just what I’ve seen so take it with the grain of salt
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Why you gotta ban so many words ?
What is the beat used
Just have to look up that Muay Thai fighter that went all 12 rounds with the heavyweight kickboxing champion.
Jiu jutsu is one of the most over rated forms of martial arts. You can be expecting to defend your wife and kids by hugging a dude on the ground. Jiu Jutsu works in mma and only mma because of the rules and it only works against fighters who have absolutely no ground games. If jui jutsu was that good, the jui jutsu fighter will be ruling the UFC. The simple style of punching someone in the face or kicking has always worked in all formats and situations. Not even a single jui jutsu champion in the current UFC says it all.
One of the best interviews i have ever seen. 2 real "bros" talking sports.
Who is that guy?
@@WHITE_RAPTORroyce gracie
him and cormier is wholsome bro to bro moment
@@WHITE_RAPTORroyce gracie the first ultimate fighter
I’ve been doing jiu-jitsu for a while and it’s really fun. The only issue is that things like the UFC have given people false overconfidence in it, they don’t realize that almost every rule in the UFC is to protect jiu-jitsu/wrestling and other grapple/ground fighting styles from strikers (with very few exceptions) it’s a whole different story when the person can stomp on you and soccer kick you in the head, or use knees to the head on the ground. Be well rounded and do multiple arts. And always remember, in the real world the ground is hard and people have friends.
Facts
I agree. I've always been saying this.
That's why I'd rather take judo
I train too. Boxing first and now BJJ. You’re 100% correct. Also their friends have smaller friends that fit in their pocket and make a really loud sound.
THIS 🫰🏿🫰🏿🫰🏿🫰🏿🫰🏿
I love jiu jitsu, but clearly all the use of PEDs by top level competitors shows strength does matter.
Wow, jujitsu masters lose against roided jujitsu masters. Same thing as every other sport so your point is?
@@ayobababoey4737 i mean clearly you cant fucking read it literally says it in the comment
It 100% matters, but if two guys are close in skill the smaller guy still has a chance to win, which is not the case in striking sports
i dont think joe was trying to say strength doesnt matter
Isn’t the big advantage that they can train more frequently to get better technique?
"If youre good and he doesnt know what hes doing"
"If youre a kickboxer and hes a kickboxer"
Thanks joe
Rewatch the video you’re slow
@@yvng_manu2159your
@@yvng_manu2159Relisten to the audio you're fast
@@yvng_manu2159u need to rewatcj😂😂
@@yvng_manu2159no he's right, joe is making a false comparison. He's comparing a big and small kickboxer to a small guy who knows bjj and a big guy who doesn't. A small kickboxer can defeat a guy who doesn't know what he's doing, pretty obvious. Joe just has a major bias for bjj
There’s a difference between BJJ for BJJ tournaments or BJJ for MMA.
And practical bjj for self-defense.
@@Gojimaru Which is very little
@@GojimaruI don’t think BJJ is the one you want for self defense it’s the worse to defend against multiple opponents and at least with kickboxing or even karate 😂 you can kick someone who has a knife and run
BJJ is a great martial arts style but I’d never put my life on it
@@Under-Kaozwdym very little? Nobodies pulling guard in a street fight dude if there untrained against someone who knows what they’re doing there gonna get fucked up
@@whyareusobad3528 nothing is good against multiple opponents lol no shit
“But Jujitsu. If you he doesn’t know what he’s doing you’re gonna kill him”
Yeah…most martial arts will
Unfortunately not, there’s probably a lot of karate black belts who wouldn’t do to well against a drunk guy at a bar
@@fredk6992 yeah that goes for a lot of things. McDojos aren’t a martial arts gym they’re scams. I can train Muay Thai but if I don’t train well or push myself then I’m done.
@@OhScatyou take the quote out of context. He’s talking about size difference. Did you even watch the short?
@@simulatedstring9029 if you do kick boxing and you fight someone 20 more pounds than you, if you’re experienced you’re telling me you wouldn’t win?
@@OhScat Again, did you watch the short? they're clearly talking about a weight difference bigger then 20 pounds. "small guy/a lightweight" vs a "250 pound guy/heavyweight" That's nearly 100 pound weight difference. No, kickboxing is not saving you in that weight difference.
Joes bjj bias is crazy
He’s not wrong though it really is the most technique based art
@@lemon-jamesit’s boring and gay
@@fahid3342if bjj wants to be relevant it needs to make changes to the rules: penalize guard pulling, shorter rounds, and more no gi. That said, its still a crucial part of mma.
Hes not wrong tho
He is wrong. Bjj is pretty ineffective irl. Soccer kicks, weapons, bites, multiple attackers etc. Unless you are in a 1v1 situation bjj aint great.
a small kickboxer against a big guy that cant fight is a whole different story
You're right. But I think they were talking about competitions.
Idk, I'm about 99% certain if Rodtang hit Brian Shaw with a leg kick, Shaw is fucking roast 😅
Tell that to mighty mouse.
Brian Shaw has more muscle in one leg than Rodtang has in his entire body. He could possibly just take it and walk it off
@@fillgraves961no
@@michealmotor yes. Not everyone has brittle bird bones like you Michel
I love MMA to death but this shit of flyweights beating dudes over 260 lbs doing weight training is so overblown! Technique matter to an extent but MMA Fans are taking it too far. No 135 lbs human isn't fucking up Brian Shaw or even a dude who is 100 lbs over and does any sort of strength training
I think it’s the opposite, if a big guy sits on you it’s gonna take all your energy to stand up while the big guy is barely breaking a sweat, it only takes one good hook to knockout anyone, big or small
Big people have the advantage against small people in both sports. It’s really hard to land a punch on someone a lot bigger because they have longer arm reach and are taller, so they are far more likely to hit you multiple times before you can even hit them once. And if someone is really big and strong, they probably have a hard punch too, so they are going to knock you out before you get the chance to knock them out. And in jiu jitsu, having that crushing weight on you is really hard to do anything. Also, people with really strong grip are hard to control in jiu jitsu as well because once they grab hold it’s almost impossible to move.
@@jessicablack9960if you are an athletic man and at least 5'10, you can generate enough power to spin most heads, of course not against someone 100 lbs heavier with a strong neck who sees it coming, but at a certain size you have the power to knock even bigger people out (usyk vs fury fight for example)
@@vynd287 I agree with that. I’m not saying it’s impossible to knock out someone bigger. I’m just saying bigger people have an advantage and the more difference there is between big and small people the harder it gets for the small person, which applies in both striking and grappling.
@@jessicablack9960well a street fight is different because you have the luxury of possibly being in an enclosed space etc where shorter arms will benefit. Like a bar fight.
@@outis439-A yeah but street fighting is just different in every way lol. There are no rules and it depends a lot on the situation, who strikes first, etc.
Saenchai proves you wrong
Totally 💯
A small jujitsu guy will also be destroyed a 250 pound kickboxer and watch kolkalai vs mighty moe who is a world champion kickboxer
He’s talking about bjj as a sport. If a smaller bjj black belt like takes a bigger kickboxer down they’re dominating in that position. Only if he does take him down, on the feet is a different story.
why would a jiu jitsu fighter fight a kickboxer in a jiu jitsu contest. i’m convinced you saw maybe the first three seconds and scrolled you dolt
Ufc 1
Keep telling yourself that buddy
Notice how you only pointed out 2 certain cases lol the exception is not the rule. 😂
Jiu jitsu is a very good self-defense system but it is not the only self-defense system that delivers as advertised You must remember it is the individual and how he employs his self-defense system in a survival situation the proficiency of the individual and his adapt ability to apply that which he has learned in a unexpected situation is the key!
Judo is literally jujitsu's father 💀
It’s the father of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and the son of Japanese Jiu-Jitsu
“If you’re really good and that guy doesn’t know what he’s doing”
Same with boxing dude. Tank Davis could out box a 250 lbs guy that doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Yeah. I don't know who Tank Davis but as a fat guy with no experience I am sure he could take me.
@@squiddwizzard8850 he’s arguably the best boxer at 135 lbs. I genuinely don’t think a bad boxer could touch him, and if they did he could probably roll the long so well that it wouldn’t do much
@@CityLover117 I'm damn near two of him.
Live combat sword fighting is 100% technique.
That's not true
Weapon combat is the only martial arts that's actually all technique except for when you take in the fact that the big guy can carry heavier weapons or calibers, and heavier armor.
Yep I'm blackpillef
@@joh_kun5530 range too with melee
Usyk: "Am i joke to you?"
???
What's your point bruh? They both fight at near same weight 😂
Guys what OP probably meant was Usyk is a natural cruiseweight who bulked to go against natural heavyweights and he is still umdefeated. He even beat Fury. Therefore Usyk is beating people bigger than him.
@@zorioncosima7786 Fury was 40 pounds heavier lo and Usyk had to blow up for heavyweight lol he a natural cruiser
Usik can be choked out by a UFC lightweight. Thats a fact.
I dont know who said it (maybe a Gracie) but in most combat sports think of a weight class as roughly equivelent to a 1 belt level
Insert gif of Rampage Jackson making fun of Rogan "mmm these jiujitsu guys 🥴🍆💦"
Technique triumphs everything not until someone with strength and technique just power himself forward.
I would argue the same for kickboxing as both are complex equally in their own way so if you're drastically more skilled you can kill a larger opponent
Rogan’s comparison didn’t make sense. A lightweight kickboxer will lose against a heavyweight kickboxer. The same goes for BJJ. The heavyweight BJJ will beat a lightweight.
Not always
My Bro, I’m sorry but you’re wrong. Mighty Mouse who fights at 125lbs in MMA is a brown belt in BJJ and just beat a 265lbs brown belt at an open weight BJJ competition!
@@aaronjobbins3885your wrong in that the belt system isn’t perfect. At regular persons brown belt isn’t equal to a pro fighters brown belt. Mighty was that guys physical superior because his body is a trained and honed weapon. Other dude is just big and filled with cheetos.
@@aaronjobbins3885Mighty mouse is a different breed. For most people, if both you and your opponent know jiu jitsu, the bigger guy has a huge advantage. Joe is right that you have a chance but unless your skill in jiu jitsu is so advanced and you have practiced for over a decade consistently, the odds of you defeating a 265 pound brute at 125 pounds is slim
I know lmao
Ive seen small muay thai guys beat dudes a foot taller and multiple weight lasses heavier. Even small guys can have knockout power when you add in kicking, so BJJ is not the only martial art that "works as advertised"
all that kicking power means nothing if you get taken to the ground
@@bidenisaclone that has exactly nothing to do with what Joe is talking about. The point of my comment is that striking can also "work as advertised" as he said here, it's not just BJJ
Glazing at its finest. I practice bjj and there’s no way the 200lb guys aren’t beating people at 100lbs lol
There’s literally hundreds of videos on this platform of street fights, jiu jitsu competitions, MMA matches, etc. where a fighter overcomes 100 pound weight difference using submission grappling.
100 lbs is like a women bro
Mikey musumeci would like a word....
So many videos, but one you can quickly look up is Mighty Mouse submitting multiple heavy weights.
Stop the cap.No bjj street fight beats over 100lb over diff.Only in a rule bjj ,is there a submission,I believe.😊
Bro casually was chilling with royce gracie
Bro casually chilling with Elon Musk
Walter White opp
If the bigger guy isn’t also a kickboxer the lightweight wins significantly
Does judo not?
How u gonna throw a guy thats 270lbs
@@Luke_skywalker_soloshow u convinced foes to laying in the dirt n hug u instead of give u bayonet stab?
He is correct but I could also argue Judo
I like how the two kickboxers the big guy wins but if a small guy knows bjj and the big guy doesn’t know it the small guy wins like no shit
Lightweight jiu-jitsu guy when the heavyweight decides he's hungry and bites a chunk off him with several pounds of force
Small Mfs with guns:
@@nedthecaveman9673big mfs with kevlar:
Let's see will that technique triumph over a bullet.
You can say the exact same thing for boxing. If a lightweight boxer fights a big guy that doesn't know what he's doing. The lightweight will more often than not fuck him up.
Ok so now we need a standing strikeing style that does the same
Damn. This is the interview I'd love to watch. Royce is a legend
It is literally the opposite. Size matters more in grappling. I boxed with heavyweights for more than a decade and I’m around 75 kg. if you know what you are doing, you can fight with a heavyweight. But in grappling, a heavy guy can just sit on you if he is half decent. The glazing from joe is insane
Still, the problem with jujitsu is that you have to take down your opponent, that's why I think Judo is better than jujitsu.
The irony is that jui jitsu is a subset that broke off of Judo. Judo teaches some ground game and specializes in take-downs, whereas Jui Jitsu specializes in the ground game and teaches some takedown.
In the age of MMA, if more practitioners took Judo seriously and trained it as hard as BJJ, they would have a difficult style to defend against. Especially if they don't otherwise have a strong wrestling pedigree. A good judo throw can be more devastating than an average wrestling takedown.
@@Dukeflyhawker you are 100% right
Charles Oliveira sub guys standing
@@JohnDoeMidnight-jq2me Just stop with the bullshit, most of the BJJ fights end on the ground.
Do you even know current Judo rules? You can't even do double & single legs.
It's always skill vs skill... Up to a point. A huge strong boxer gets messed up against a small one if the skill level is far enough apart. Eventually, once the levels get closer, size will take over. It's no different in BJJ. No different.
I hope this is out of context. BJJ has weight classes like other sports for a reason. Yeah a smaller highly trained dude will be an untrained big dude in boxing, mma, muay thai etc, that's not a BJJ thing.
All bjj competitions habe an absolute division, and its not rare seeing lighter weights winning those
Wait so the example is: two kickboxers at different weights, and one guy who does bjj vs a bigger guy who has no fight experience? lol
well in video mighty mouse was shown (the small guy) fighting a bigger opponent in a tournament so no your observation is wrong cause the bigger guy is also a trained jiu jitsu fighter who also lost
I’ve noticed that weight difference is not as big a problem in Gi jiu jitsu compared to no-gi or wrestling where a 20 pound weight difference is a lot
That and judo is purely based on technique
Had some bloke getting aggressive a few months ago to me and a friend said he was purple belt judo or Jiu jitsu whatever. He was I ended up asking a few people about him. I train Muay Thai I have no experience with the ground game he took me down I slipped out of he's grip and soccer kicked him to the face that ended the fight real quick... Nothing but respect to anyone that trains but if the only thing a lad knows how to do is roll be prepared to have your face jumped on.
yeah lets watch a 9 stone judo guy try and toss my 18 stone body
@@JC-km5xw He would *throw* you, but that 8 stone Judo guy probably has other ways of beating you, especially if they're a black or brown belt. Same with Jiu Jitsu. There's methods for everything.
@@Adonisius_Kavata if it was jiu jtsu ive been at for 24 years so I doubt it, but skills aside this is just absolute bs to the point people just complain if you "use your strength" rolling in bjj
Literally any grappling sport
I guess Joe Rogan never saw nokweed vs jerome le banner 😂😂😂
I love how in the boxing example they are both professionlas and in the BJJ example the bigger guy "doesnt know what hes doing"
But ppl forget that qorks only in bbj competition. In a real fight bjj doest bring whats promised at all. You just get stomped out trying to get an armbar or you get smashed by some wrestler because you cant wrestle. Or you zry to go in and get a grip and wake up half a minute later to notice the other guy could box and knocked you out
Clearly you haven’t done contact sports or aren’t any good. Demetrius Johnson has beaten guys twice his size. Being too big isn’t a good thing either. If size is everything then everyone would look like bodybuilders in the ufc
Try judo :)
bro if you are against multiple opponents you run if you are against one you RUN but if you have to fight 1v1 than you can certainly go to the ground and fight him
You can use jiujitsu ot bjj you only need to how, use it to not get on the ground in the first place cause once on the ground your dead
Better use wrestling judo with some striking
Wrestling too. Coach used to have me bump up a weight class from 170 to 182 sometimes during my senior year (I wasn’t cutting weight at all. I was like 174 at most). I won every match I bumped up in.
This is completely true. I went up two weight classes and still smoked the competition and got silver
The best example is DJ in an open weight jiu-jitsu tournament he ended 2nd despite only weighing 125lbs.
When the smaller bjj dude that’s butt scooting tho I feel like the bigger person will take advantage 😂
You just said in bjj "if he doesnt know what hes doing" but with kickboxing he DOES.
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Till slams come into the equation.
Yes, but the issue is that it only works of its a one on one fight. On a real street fight, no one is letting his buddy get choked and will use the jujitsu guy’s head as a soccer ball.
I heard Judo whole the time.
Wrestling too, when I first joined and even now i wrestle the coaches kid and he’s like 130 rn and I’m 175 and he still beats me or used to because it been a while since we’ve wrestled freestyle. And I went against him in Greco and he is strong like almost my strength and I’m kinda new to Greco and he’s been wrestling since he was a kid
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Was that Jeff glover with that standing arm bar
Not the only one. Fencing and Kendo too are like that
been doing bjj for 26 years this is bs
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Royce Gracie looks so much more different than in 2006 and 1993 I honestly thought that was someone else
joe just made a comparison between two different sizes dudes that know kickboxing and two different sized dudes and the smaller one knows jj
Which is why it’s more of a game like basketball or soccer than actual fighting
The glazing is crazy
Just started training in BJJ, that is so true! In BJJ knowledge and experience is absolutely king!
And how will you *TEACH* BJJ to a guy with muscular degeneration in his forearms
In jiu jitsu Technique and Strength have the exact same degree of importance.
Because when the opponent has much more strength than you, almost all your techniques won't work with him even if he's beginner in grappling.
Strength and stamina is tremendously important in grappling beside technique.
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Wtf the title is defnitly not what joe says hahahaha
I dont expect the average bluebelt around town to climb up my body like a cat up a tree to get an armbar so I'll stick with double leg to head smack.
Punching (in all form of MA) is the best.. it's just like spear, no need time to learn n brain to operate and get effective in the batle..
JJ is like doble daggers.. it's cool and speedy.. but need big time, hard work n talent to make it effective in batle..
In the war.. for regular person ..better give em spears than fancy double daggers..
Not really, there are a lot of variables. If you kinda know what you're doing and are way fitter than your opponent you can defend until they get tired. Then it's fair game.
I'd say grappling in general, including Judo, wrestling, sambo etc. but I agree.
Strength 1000% matters in bjj and judo
Of course it matters but skill matters more, which cannot be said for other styles
@fredk6992 maybe skill would triumph in a competition style spar but if your 135lb fighting for your life against a 270lb dude your gonna get hurt really bad.
@@corywright957what is the fat guy gonna do? Nothing probably
Ambrose academy of wing Chun do, and he DO makes the difference
If im fighting a big guy im going for strikes not to the ground😂
Unless they do the pull guard thing
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That's cool but all fights start standing up.
Well said
this guy when he finds out jiujitsu matches start standing up
@@materoiduntil one pulls guard in the first 10 seconds
@@Zach-zo6mv just pass it
That’s why you should learn Muay Thai as well as jj
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Ah ah ahhh, slapnuts! ALL martial arts are like that.
Their argument doesn’t make sense, size matters when both fighters have experience
If I were a younger man, I’d give it a try😊
Learning to grapple in a 1 on 1 is better than striking. Lot's of mma fighters are strong grapplers.
I wanna learn jiu-jitsu so bad but the positions are so zesty
Joe’s statement just contradicted itself. “If you’re a small dude and know jiu jitsu you can beat any big dude”, so can other martial arts too…. If a big dude and small dude are equal in bjj experience the big dude wins.
Perhaps a 5 foot 11 20-year-old 170 lb man who's been training in Muay Thai 15 years vs play 6'4 235 lb man has been a kickboxer for 10 years one of them has seriously trained in bone density enhancement I'm going to pick that one to win
Replace the word "jiu-jitsu" with grappling. Then we can all agree
In a no rules street fight, you can easily stop a jiu jitsu guy... biting, ball grabbing, eye pokes... etc
Is it better for a smaller person to train with larger and taller people? (Gimme the long answer)
I jujutsu is important for MMA, especially but we seen guys like Ryan Hall and Paul Craig get finished on the ground because they got to jiu-jitsu heavy I’m not a fighter but you gotta have good defense like a lot of people like Muay Thai I believe cause they think it’s cool or whatever there is weaknesses like boxing if you don’t have good boxing like sometimes guys try to take too many punches or their guard isn’t right when you got good boxing and Muay Thai you got good defense as well as good hands you’re gonna be better than the basic guyI’m not a fighter, but this is just what I’ve seen so take it with the grain of salt
Nobody knows joe for being a very smart dude
same with wrestling , grappling sports , the better practitioner always wins , striking sports , everyone has a “punchers chance”
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Unless you pull hard and he pulls a knife.
That is only if a bjj fightrr fights another bjj fighter. If a boxer heavyweight fights a bjj lightweight its a diff story
Kickboxing does teach you to kick a knee, and every martial art with Legwork does that. When you kick a knee, you Won.
Tell this to Nookweed Davys when he fought jerome lebanon and it should have been a tie
He’s not wrong, but the dynamic changes when they bite or grab your nuts
A Bjj small guy will beat a tabular big guy. But a heavyweight kick boxer will kill a small bjj guy in a street fight