Isiah Thomas Drops 44 Points on John Stockton & Co. (The Dream Team Statement Game)
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- Barely a year removed from his back-to-back championship-clinching MVP performance in the 1990 NBA Finals, 12-time all-star point guard Isiah Thomas ended up on the outside looking in upon the September 21, 1991 reveal of the first 10 members of the 1992 USA Olympic Men's Basketball Team (aka "The Dream Team"). Following a contentious conclusion to his Detroit Pistons' four-year playoff blood feud with the Chicago Bulls four months prior, speculation arose as to whether Thomas' absence was the result of stipulations insisted or insinuated upon by at least one other prospective member of the USA Men's Basketball Team.
Regardless of the reason, fellow all-star point guard John Stockton was selected to the Dream Team in lieu of Thomas. And it was with that backdrop that the Detroit Pistons faced off against Stockton and the Utah Jazz early in the 1991-92 regular season. Remaining quiet regarding the selection process and wishing Stockton well (according to long time Jazz broadcaster Hot Rod Hundley), Thomas opted to let his game do the talking.
Shooting 15-of-22 from the floor, Thomas finished with 44 points-his highest regular season output since 1983-in a definitive 123-115 win. While the bulk of his damage came against Stockton directly, Thomas made no qualms of dismantling Eric Murdock and any number of double teams with equal zest and ease.
Thomas, who at one point connected on a 10 consecutive shots in the second half, remained relatively understated following his performance. "It just sort of happened," he said.
A month later, Utah Jazz forward Karl Malone exacted revenge on behalf of his Dream Team teammate. Less than five minutes into their mid-December re-match, Malone landed an elbow to Thomas' face, resulting in a trip to the hospital and 47 stitches in an effort to curb the bleeding. Even then, Thomas did not remain down for long, returning from the hospital to finish the game, narrowly missing a game-winning jumper as time expired. • Isiah Thomas Hospitali... - Sport
Years later John Stockton says when the Dream Team was announced, his parents said they received a call from Isiah who told them that he respected their family name, and their son John as a person and a player and he didn’t want them to feel that he had anything personal against Stockton or them but felt he should’ve been selected with or before Stockton and they would soon hear and see him say and do some things publicly to reflect that.
Stockton says that Isiah asked his parents that if they did share this conversation with their son, he suggested that they ask him not to go public with it because the media would then come harassing them for an interview so they kept things quiet.
Stockton says from that point forward he saw Isiah as a friend who did the things on the court in the name of winning and was genuinely a respectful person, which is why he selected Isiah to present him to the Basketball HOF.
Stockton and Thomas knew each other as 13/14 year old kids so Thomas knew Stockton before Malone.
@@user-hy3nu7vm7v true indeed they played in tournaments with/against other but they weren’t “friends”
Isiah Thomas went all Rucker 's League on Stockton in this game.
2:55
Isiah Lord Thomas is my favorite NBA player ever. Natural ability and speed coupled with work ethic, ball handling, intelligence and more HEART than any other player in the game.
You can take Jordan, I'll take this guy.
We'll GLADLY take Jordan lol...
@@mickeyjohnson5247 You girl's field hockey crossover fans alway crack me up.
Both were 100x tougher than LeFraud James
I could watch Zeke highlights all day. He was a killer on the hardwood. My favorite player of all time.
Agree completely
Pretty much
No question
Beautiful player. Him and Mike had the gift of grace!
Mine too. The fact people try to put Stockton ahead of him is just mind-boggling. If you ever watched the two play it's obvious.
breaking Stockton's ankles in the house that he built, games at the Palace back then were awesome and very loud.
Best handling ever. His capabilities for elevating his game to a superhuman standard when he was having a kind of supernatural trip was amazing to watch live back in the day. He demolished Stockton on that day.
Isiah was unstoppable when he was on fire. Great memories.
This is why he’s the greatest “little man” ever. Isiah’s sometimes Harlem Globetrotters-like passing and ball handling translated to dominance that led to championship success.
Not only was it championship success but the Pistons took on his identity as a leader.
Magic was gifted with a Allstars team off the rip. Zeke got 2 championships outta a lesser talented roster
His handle is amazingly tight. No one till date has a tighter handle than him. He can really do wonders with the ball.
I think he's the best handles ever
Kyrie irving is up there
He sacrificed his scoring 2 get other players involved & sometimes I hate that
2:55
Dude dribbles like he ain’t got legs. He would be a destroyer in todays league
Dayum did isiah have some rotation on the rock. Some of those shots sat in the net.
The Baby-Faced Assassin. He was the MAN
Stockton had no clue, what to do, just like Terry Porter !!!
To be fair, no one really had a clue on how to stop I Thomas.
Terry Porter ? Please explain. Porter busted Stockton in 92 WCF right ? Or did Isiah bust Porter in 90 NBA Finals u saying ?
Isiah killed porter in the finals
@@3ruffians10 Porter also busted Stockton in the 90 NBA Finals
Love the homer call after Stockton trips Rodman "Stockton didn't do anything."
lol FACTS!! Stockton was actually a sneaky chippy player. He was a white version of Chris Paul with his sneakiness !
Paul is a black version of Stockton. Since Stockton came first.
@@baddrivers7383 I hear ya,. but I was talking to those who needed a current day reference.
@@tennaj1367 m/oron
@@baddrivers7383 Fair enough.. 🤣
I like John Stockton, but does anyone think he could've led the Pistons to two straight titles? Nope, but Isiah could've led the Jazz to a championship. Isiah Thomas should've been on the Dream Team. MJ and Zeke would've probably ended up friends had he been there. Oh well, Isiah probably got more recogniton for being shafted than if he'd actually been on the team. The whole thing makes MJ and Magic look pretty small.
I completely agree . In fact , from 1980 - 1992, here is my list , in order, of the greatest NBA players . 1) Larry Bird 2) Magic Johnson 3) Michael Jordan 4) Isiah Thomas. Absolutely should have been on the team
@@hermixtonen I agree, barely, Bird then Magic (Magic grew up 20 miles from me so that's a hard call). But Isiah over Jordan everyday of the week. The first three played team ball, do what needs to be done through the team. I can respect that. Jordan never was. He failed early in his career because he always wanted the stone and the shot, whether had a play or not. His teams payed for that mindset until they got players that wanted to win instead of pad their resumes.
Stockton is super overrated
Of course not. The Jazz got to the Finals just before the Lakers began their title rebound. I would dare to say that if Phil Jackson was with the team the years Del Harris lost to Utah in the WCF, the Jazz NEVER would’ve broken through.
And this video is just a SAMPLE of how Stockton couldn’t check any of the premier guards of his time. He got that NBA all “defensive” rep for gambling on steals. Truth was, Mark Eaton could just stand in the key all night and block shots WHEN players drove past Stockton. He made it easy for Stockton to play passing lanes.
Stockton was one of the dirtiest players in NBA history. His disciples never want to address that aspect of his game.
Never looked at it like that till I read your comment. If Isiah was on that Jazz team they would have won at least two or more championships with Isiah and The Mailman on the same team. Stockton just wasn't a scorer when he she to like Isiah. Isiah had the ability to take over a game offensively.
RIP Chuck Daly Orlando Woolridge Jerry Sloan Mark Eaton And Jack McCloskey….
Isiah showed no fear when driving the lane to the bucket and getting a hoop against any big man, or big men, EVER! He played BIGGER than 99.9% of his opponents and it's not even up for debate. Isiah wanted to let Stockton and Malone know who the best basketball player was on the court that night...and he certainly did!
1 game...
Yeah... Zeke always been > mailman & stockton anyways
@@accountant3847 and yet that Mailman elbow
@@nonamewillbegiven ouh
@@nonamewillbegivenzeke didn't cry about it either
Zeke definitely should’ve been on Dream Team 1 instead of that guy from Duke. Why Rodman wasn’t on a Dream Team 2 was or more all star teams was just insane.
Zeke wouldn't have replaced Laettner. It had been agreed one college player would be on the team. Zeke would have gone instead of Stockton. Unfortunate Zeke had a big mouth and a bad attitude. Many of the other players didn't want him.
@@marykuettner752 no just Pippen and Jordan
@@armonroach4740 actually Magic was very upset with him. When Magic was diagnosed with HIV Isiah who was supposed to be one of Magic's closest friends said to a reporter that he never heard of someone getting it that wasn't gay. He never called Magic to check on him.
Bird wasn't really mad at Isiah but when Rodman said Bird would only be another good player if he was black, Isiah backed him up. Bird had to go to a press conference with Isiah while he was trying to get ready to play the Lakers in the finals. He was a little irritated about it.
Isiah had already declined a good deal by the time the 1992 Olympics was around. I suppose that Larry, who was about to retire, was also not such an elite player at his stage, either. Magic was also out of the league. Isiah had so much heat with other players, especially Karl Malone. He was ostracized.
@@PhilJHaast7695 One of the reporters tried to say Larry had declined and Jordan tore him a new one. Said Larry was still better than any player that wasn't already on the team.
The disservice to young basketball fans,
is that none of these statement games are
highlighted today and given the respect
they deserve.
Isiah near the end of his career. The team not playing well at all. But look at his face. No smile cracked the whole night. Just one serious go to work face.
He was the best handler in the league
Best point guard in the league.
@@ProfessorofTruth Magic?
Best
The Dream Team was announced in late 1991. The NBA wanted to introduce the world to its product with the Olympics as its display case and Jordan as the main attraction…advertisers like Nike, Coke, Hanes, McDonald’s, and others who had Michael as an endorser also shared the same interests.
Historically, Isiah in charity and all-star games would oftentimes display his wizardry like basketball passing, dribbling, and scoring…wooing the crowd, which is another reason why I don’t think he was selected because playing alongside the players on that roster on especially the world’s stage…he’d have taken much of that spotlight from Jordan and the league, Jordan, his representation (David Faulk), and advertisers weren’t dare gonna allow that to happen so Stockton was the perfect non-threatening choice for Michael and what they were seeking to do.
THAT PART^^^^^^^^^^
I have said the exact same thing many times. In fact, I also believe that's the real reason Magic Johnson didn't want Isiah on the team either. Isiah's wizardry with a basketball was unmatched & had he been allowed to play he quite possibly could've shined just as bright or even brighter than Michael Jordan. All one has to do is watch every All Star or Charity Game Isiah's ever played in. He puts on a show like no other.
@@nothingnothing7648 nothing
@@davidboyd9742 no you haven't you geek
@@davidboyd9742 and nope, you're delusional as well
The Magic Pocket was wonderful. What a performance against John Stockton...
He and Larry were my inspiration growing up - loved watching them play!
I wonder what Chuck Daly was thinking at the time :D. Zeke's statement was also to him!!
Anyway, GREAT anwer by Thomas!!! this situation 'was personal to him' :D :D
No denying him. Prime Zeke could wash any teams point guard then as well as now..
not curry
Zeke would go nuts in todays NBA. Mentality was different and nobody could stay in front of him then or now
SO why was this the only time he did it???
THOMAS need to shoot the ball 22 times and had 5 turnovers and just 4 assists.
STOCKTON had 20 POINTS with just 10 shoots (3/4 from 3) 14 assists and only 2 turnovers.
@@onlyfacts3178 the only time he did what? If you're talking about score 40 he did that multiple times. Stockton has never scored 40. Ever. Zeke sacrificed his scoring to make the team into a champion not because he couldn't score.
@@cocopops8441 Zeke would WASH him youngster! RINSE AND REPEAT! 😂
Zeke gave Stockton the business
On God
John Stockton was overwhelmingly overrated!
@@gamelove100 You ain’t lying
@@gamelove100 check the box scores again.
@@gamelove100 ...No Karl Malone and Stockton is nothing...easy feeds and wide open jumpers ...
Thanks for posting, Ryan. Your title describes it well!
And Isiah scored 40 on Stockton *again* the next year. Stockton couldn't handle him.
Isiah’s 1993 40-spot on Stockton can be seen here - czcams.com/video/TjBVK2601M4/video.html
and he also scored 6 points / 8 points / 11 points...but those games dont count to THOMAS fanatics.
oh and since when 40 points means that you played better?
22 shoots 5 turnovers 4 assists.
Stock had 20 POINTS with just 10 shoots , 14 assists and only 2 turnovers.
SO STOCK was more effective.
@@onlyfacts3178 Stockton never lead a championship team. End of argument
@@dsg3053 Neither did i.thomas.
PISTONS won the tittle not I.THOMAS.
Its a sport game.
And J.DUMARS won a MVP in the FINALS.
D.Rodman defensive player of the year.
PROVING that he wasnt carrying them.
@@onlyfacts3178 and 1990 finals MVP was?
Me & my brother do our top 5 vs the other. Regardless of what Isiah is always my PG
Watching Zeke and the BadBoyz🏀team as a teen on the Westside of Detroit mid to late 80s is one of the things kept me sane💯during this time my city was being crushed by cocaine crack to be exact😔
Gotta give Isiah his just due...
Stockton was nothing compared to Thomas. Isiah was a warrior.
The all time assist leader. Shutup Kaier
@@nonamewillbegiven two time (should be 3) champ in the Bird, Magic, Jordon and ahem Stockton era...mic drop
@@Fallingtower969 should be nothing. M.oron
@@nonamewillbegiven Isuah Thomas is recognized as the greatest pure point guard of all-time. Stockton is known for balancing Malone's nutsack on his chin.
@@Fallingtower969 so thats Stockton you're referring to as a pure PG knucklehead
U damn right this game had a special interest 2 Zeke
the move at 4:46.
I watched this game live as it happened ! Me and my homeboys here in Detroit were loving every minute of it. I remember the morning of the game calling my best friend,. and the first thing I said as soon as he picked up the phone was.." Isiah is going to light his ass up tonight !! And we both bust out laughing,. because we knew that Stockton wasn't even in the same league as Isiah Thomas.
STOCKTON previous 3 seasons and the 92 season;
17,1 PPG / 13,6* ASS / 3,2* STEALS / 11shoots / 54% FG
17,2 PPG / 14,5* ASS / 2,7 STEALS / 11,8 shoots / 51,4% FG
17,2 PPG / 14,2* ASS / 2,9 STEALS / 12 shoots / 51% FG
16 PPG / 13,7* ASS / 3* STEALS / 11,5 shoots / 48,2% FG
I.THOMAS;
18,2 PPG / 8,3 ASS / 1,7 STEALS / 15,3 shoots / 46,4% FG
18,4 PPG / 9,4 ASS / 1,7 STEALS / 16,3 shoots / 43,8% FG
16,2 PPG / 9,3 ASS / 1,6 STEALS / 14 shoots / 43,5% FG
18,5 PPG / 7,2 ASS / 1,5 STEALS / 16,2 shoots 44,6% FG
By the way STOCKTON was shooting 39% from 3 and I.THOMAS was shooting 29% from 3 and that was very important against zone defences.
STOCKTON had ;
20 POINTS just 10 shoots he was 3/4 from 3 point line (75%) he had 13 assists / 1 steal / 3 Turnovers
I.THOMAS shoot 22 times had 4 assists / 2 steals and 5 turnovers.
Stockton was more effective ; in 26 possessions he gave his team 42 POINTS.
I.THomas need to shoot 22 times and had 5 turnovers.
Stockton was great he was only on the dream team because of Jordan though should have been isiah
@@onlyfacts3178
Well then I guess Stockton is better than Isiah Thomas... LMAO
@@tennaj1367
4 worst seasons
I.THOMAS ------- STOCKTON
20 wins ------------42 wins
37 wins-------------44 wins
39 wins-------------44 wins
40 wins-------------47 wins
STOCKTON worst seasons were winning seasons and one of the worst STOCKTON season was one of the best THOMAS seasons.
Best seasons
Thomas---------STOCKTON
46 wins----------54 wins
48 wins----------55 wins
49 wins----------55 wins
50 wins----------55 wins
52 wins----------55 wins
54 wins----------60 wins
59 wins----------62 wins
63 wins----------64 wins
-I.Thomas had 7 of 13 seasons with 47 or more wins.
-J.Stockton had 15 of 18 seasons with 47 or more wins.
-I.Thomas Worst season 20 wins. -J.Stockton Worst season 42 wins.
I.Thomas - 4 seasons with more then 50 wins.
J.Stockton - 12 seasons with more then 50 wins
I.Thomas - 4 of 13 seasons with more losses then wins.
J.Stockton - 0 Losing seasons
I.Thomas - Missed the play-offs 4 times of 13 seasons.
J.Stockton - Never missed the play-offs.
I.Thomas - 5 times to the semi finals.
J.Stockton - 10 times to the semi finals.
I.Thomas - 3 divison tittles.
J.Stockton - 5 divison titles.
I.Thomas - 2 Rings in 3 finals.
J.Stockton - 0 rings in 2 finals
I.Thomas - MVP of the team 1 time.
J.Stockton - MVP of the team 4 times.
MVP of the FINALS I.THomas 1 time
/J.Stockton 0.
LED the league in ASSISTS
Thomas - 1 time
Stockton - 9 times
J.Stockton lead the league in STEALS - 2 times.
I.THOMAS - 0
J.Stockton all time leader in steals. J.Stockton all time leader in assists.
AS you can see STOCKTON was a winner all his career.
He didnt got a ring but was a winner who made his team better.
THOMAS got 2 rings in 2 loaded teams.
You upload some great videos mate 👍
How can you say greatest team ever if every great wasn't on it. I can't believe I'm starting to agree with Shaq.
There were 2 things apparent with players on the Jazz.
1-John Stockton one on one could not defend Isiah Thomas
2-19 year old college student Karl Malone loved getting 13 year old girls pregnant.
I remember this game. Y'all know Isaiah was making a real statement. 😂😂😂
The being kept off the dream team, Stockton will never be better than me, revenge game
20 with 21 minutes to go and he sat out about 5 minutes of that stretch, so in another one of zeke's outstanding moments against 2 members of the dream team he had 24 in 16 minutes.....is there any doubt who should have been on that 92 team(and don't bring up that team chemistry crap) and that team could have easily won in 92 w/out jordan but the nba/olympics knew that if jordan didn't play it would have cost millions(possibly billions) in future money.....the jazz knew how superior zeke was over stockton that even when the game was still in doubt they decided to play the quicker murdock bcuz they knew that stockton couldn't hold him and were tired of him beating/scoring/passing out of double teams
So still Stockton
M/oron
Zeke could turn it on to another Gear, Stockton had one gear thats why he never got a ring !
If Isiah was on that team every practice would end up in fistfights lol. He totally deserved it btw, and i think he dominated Stockton and dropped like 44 on him to prove he was better. I mean they couldve had 3 point guards. Magic was a big guy and was sick already so he could play less games.
Stockton was hiding his injury to be a part of this legendary team, which was kinda selfish.
I would love to see Dream team go up against the "non dream team guys" led by Isiah. That would be nba players pissed off at not playing plus the select team of college stars (which actually beat DT in one practice game).... Plus Shaquille.
Pg Isiah, the Glove and Penny
Sg Joe D, Reggie
SF G-Hill, Rodman (he was sf at that point)
Pf Shawn Kemp and Cwebb
C Shaquille and Zo
I think they would give the dream team a run for their moNey. Plus this squad has more dirty ass, competitive players.
Joe D and Reggie would go at MJ and make him work. Isiah, the Glove and Penny would dominate HIV-Magic and injured Stockton. G Hill always dominated Scottie and Rodman was the bane of Scottie, and Clyde was a choker. Mullin was a great shooter.... But not as great as Reggie. C Webb and Kemp are much faster than both DREAM team PFs so it would be a great matchup of youth vs old. And Shaq would hold his own and try to dominate Admiral and Patrick, with Zo backing him up. And i didnt wanna add Hakeem cause he didnt have a USA citizenship (yet) . Larry was there just for the fun, not a dominant player anymore.
I think my team takes down the Dream team and Zeke gets his revenge
No if Isiah was on the dream team, he would have taken somebody's shine and they did not want that. Isiah was far more flashier than Magic or Stockton and his dribbling was superior as welll.
What the hell is so controversial about Isiah Thomas?
@@TheLuscious It's sick to discredit a man like this... what did Thomas do or didn't do?... Not that it matters but it's obvious the media hates Thomas for no reason aside from his achievements in sports and business.
He was on the Detroit Pistons. To some, that's inexcusable.
He committed the crime of beating Jordan’s ass 3 years in a row. Beat Bird Jordan and Magic leading his team to their first ring. Only player/team ever to do that
@@plainsimple244 Exactly I agree with you 💯 38-17 lifetime v. Jordan head to head
@@TheLuscious Exactly... the fact that the NBA ignores this and vaguely mentions it and doesn't praise this guy for his accomplishments like other losers are celebrated: Barkley, Ewing, Miller, etc... that shows you something is up and even lower-level champions are praised more than Thomas...it's sick.
Isiah showing here he is better than 2 of the Dream Team Stockton and Malone.
For people who may not know, back in the 1970s whenever the Harlem Globetrotters came to town to play, they would often visit the local Boys and Girls Club and give dribbling lessons and that's how Isiah learned to dribble because he spent the summers at camps ran by Globetrotter greats Marcus Haynes and Curly Neal and Isiah absorbed all of that ball handling knowledge they showed him and other kids back then.
I love hearing him tell that story...really I like to hear him talk basketball in any capacity. Great player and ambassador
Guess he "took it personal" lol
Message sent and message understood!
Zeke let the world know that as all-time great a PG as Stockton was, he was never and would never be on Isiah's level as an overall player. An absolute joke for him to be on that dream team over IT.
Honors to #ISAIAH THOMAS!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
My #2 All-Time favorite point guard!!
*Isaiah Thomas was much more worthy of the Dream Team spot than Stockton*
Nice argument...i bet you werent born yet.
1st NOBODY in that team liked I.THOMAS.
2nd he wasnt a good 3 point shooter (and against EUROPEAN teams playing those zones) they needed a shooter not a driver..
3rd STOCKTON was a team player.
4th SIMPLE TEST TO YOU; this are their previous 3 seasons...not going to put a name and you will only choose base on stats.
PLAYER A
17,1 PPG / 13,6* ASS / 3,2* STEALS / 11shoots / 54% FG
17,2 PPG / 14,5* ASS / 2,7 STEALS / 11,8 shoots / 51,4% FG
17,2 PPG / 14,2* ASS / 2,9 STEALS / 12 shoots / 51% FG
PLAYER B
18,2 PPG / 8,3 ASS / 1,7 STEALS / 15,3 shoots / 46,4% FG
18,4 PPG / 9,4 ASS / 1,7 STEALS / 16,3 shoots / 43,8% FG
16,2 PPG / 9,3 ASS / 1,6 STEALS / 14 shoots / 43,5% FG
@@onlyfacts3178 Dude this sounds like a Jordan Nut Hugger response. Isiah was better just leave it at that.
@@basilboyd3774
FACTS;
J.STOCKTON average in the previous 3 seasons;
17,2 PPG in 11,6 shoots /52%FG
14,1 ASS / 2,9 STEALS
I.THOMAS averages;
17,6 PPG in 15,3 shoots / 44,5% FG /
8,3 ASS / 1,6 STEALS
NOT EVEN CLOSE.
@@onlyfacts3178 FACTS: Isiah two championships. Stockton ZERO. NOT EVEN CLOSE
@@muskegontribune So if a player wins a ring and then misses the play-offs 9 times.
It means he is better then someone who makes the Finals 9 times and never wins a ring.
AHAHAH
Kevin Johnson and Isiah Thomas both dropped 44 points on John Stockton in November 1991. Stockton fouled out of both games.
Isiah was unstoppable! It was super fun watching him do what he did back then in his prime; Over all if he didn't put if in, He dished it to someone wide open who put it in, so the better Isiah got - the better the Pistons got. What a super talent.
They always talk about how Stockton was a better defender than Isiah. Come on, man.
Stockton has better tecnique, but tactically he sucks. The most wasted talent in NBA history.
Never really heard Stockton's defense compared to Zeke's...Stockton was the better steals guy, Zeke was a better on-ball defender which for whatever reason is overlooked....his defense is why other players hated him not his offense. They hated Stockton too...called them both dirty... looking at footage Stockton indeed did a lot of dirty stuff like trips n hitting guys in the privates
@@pele914 If I'm being honest, Zeke didn't become an elite on ball defender until the last half of his career, after they transitioned into a defensive team. Stockton was a dog the whole time.
Jordan said Isaiah was the best pg he ever seen. If you watch his games against Portland in the finals he was unstoppable.
Jordan said second best
Not true in the last dance he said he was right behind magic as best pg ever
At 4:52 John Stockton flips Dennis Rodman with a wrestling move on the screen and the announcer really says "Stockton didn't do anything on the play but Rodman reacted quickly..." Are these Jazz announcers because that's wild levels of bias?
I’m here after Gil said Stockton would lock Zeke up. The tape says otherwise 🤣
Isiah or Shaq should have gone to Barcelona in spite of Laettner
Stockton shouldn't have taken it personally. Isiah did it to Magic and the Lakers as well. He was making a statement for whoever barred him from his rightful spot on the 1992 Olympic team - including Magic. Isiah's rightful spot as lead point guard was reserved for Magic Johnson.
Boy! Erick Murdock can play ball real good!
Reporter : "isiah Thomas a vey controversial player to say the least".
Zeke: Get 44 and sfu.
Wow "Arbor Drugs" damn I'm getting old 57 already, the Bad Boy's beat the GOAT MJ three years! That was the good ol days 80s-90s
Just imagine if Zeke was to have the green light and shoot first mentality like Iverson or Curry under Coach Chuck D? We would be looking at him differently today. He’s in my Top Ten of All-Time. The greatest era of basketball was played in the 80’s! Zeke defeated Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Coop, Bird, McHale, DJ, The Chief, MJ and Pippen. 4 of the players listed are arguably in people’s NBA’s Mount Rushmore of Greatest of All Time. This while playing without an elite player and being the most hated player in the planet. 😎
stockten stuck his leg between rodmans then elbowed him when he was down, but they didnt see stockten do anything. lies
Zeke owned Stockton. Who was never in his league
GO, ZEKE!!!!! YEAH!!!
Rip Orlando woolridge (the leader of the traveling cocaine circus), mark Eaton, and arbor drugs
@6:29, is that Jae Crowder's dad? 🤣
Affirmative.
Isiah Thomas was Kyrie Irving before there was a Kyrie Irving, as a skilled dribbler and small man.
Nice jumper for point number 6 early
Thomas should have played like this all season... they needed his scoring since Vinnie Johnson wasn't there; same with Mark Aguirre, they could have used him greater because there was no Edwards.
Isiah had surgery on his wrist his shooting hand and he was done after that.
@@user-hy3nu7vm7v Yeah, his career went down because he couldn't shoot as well, he could just guide the ball and he couldn't really push things...he could have been better but not as good, just adjusting his game; it didn't help that the Pistons got rid of Vinnie Johnson and James Edwards -- that messed up their championship run...but Thomas could have done a lot of things better or differently in 1991-92....I still think him not being on the Olympic team, that really made all of the guys, Isiah, Laimbeer, Aguirre, Rodman, Salley, and Dumars really not play hard or well for Chuck Daly -- it's like seeing treason in the camp...you pick that up with McCloskey not re-signing Vinnie Johnson and trading Edwards and that was it...Daly and McCloskey messed that thing up ON PURPOSE -- those guys wanted to keep competing for titles but the politics of the NBA ushering in the Jordan-era....Remember he got 44 in this game so he could still shoot but this was 1991-92 but in 1990-91 he was done for that season after that wrist surgery...he even said he should NOT have returned in 1990-91 after surgery but he wanted to be there for his team -- wrong freakin' decision.
@@plainsimple244well said on all counts especially the Chuck Daly part...Mike is a genuine dickhead for that part, he coulda asked for Phil but we all know Mike pushed for Chuck for the reasons you are mentioning. love Mike the player but dude is a jerk for no reason and I don't justify with competitive nature, a jerk is a jerk
zeke was cookin....
SAD THAT ISIAH LEGACY HAS BEEN OVERSHADOWED AND UNAPPRECIATED BECAUSE OF THESE JORDAN FANBOYS
At 5:00 he says Stockton did nothing wrong...typical..
Read in the worm’s book bad as I wanna be, he went in hard on John Stockton calling him a cheap shot and grabbing and holding people..John Stockton great player but was known for cheap shots and grabbing in the NBA and came up short in the NBA finals..
@@beezy22 Everyone did that in that era
@@egseven yup and today’s league there’s too many cry babies….smh…they need to bring back old school basketball…
@@beezy22 I never watched old school basketball like that but after watching Dennis rodman and pistons highlights definitely a different
Also found out how tough Michael is, he used to get destroyed at the rim everytime
If the Piston were in west coast or east coast the talking heads of sports would still be licking the Piston s butts.
1:27 - 5:55
Credit to Karl Malone. At several points in the game he could have ended a Pistons career with one of those filed down Elbows of his but he didn't. 🤣🤣
bro was jus doing whatever he wanted 😂
Maybe he didn't realise he was toxic and hence why other greats didn't want him on the team?? Seems like that's the case when you hear others speak on it....(regardless of him being probably the best pg at the time)
Van Dusen from PLAINWELL??
Who was on the Dream Team again?
Christian Laettner
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Larry Bird
Scottie Pippen
Michael Jordan
Clyde Drexler
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Chris Mullin
Charles Barkley
And Magic Johnson.
Also Chuck Daly was the head coach.
Shaq should've been there
And who has no rings
Statement Game? Isiah wasn't part of the the DREAM for one reason. AND it wasn't because of MJ!!!!!
I truly wonder if anyone that does not have Mike as their favorite player actually believes this nonsense😐it's ok to love Mike the player but realize he was a scumbag. Ironically Zeke wasn't; hence he was regularly VOTED by his peer players, Mike included, to represent ALL of them in the union😕
1:05 obvious move and screen. No foul calls help.
Also I thought Pistons were old a year earlier when they were swept by Chicago 🤣😂🤣😂 but here is Isaiah dropping 44? Seems like the sweep was legit 😂😂😂. And in 92 they tried to roughhouse the Knicks who punked the Pistons instead. 🤣😂🤣 Glorious.
1. It's Isiah, not Isaiah.
2. The term is moving screen, which there wasn't one...Eaton shoved Laimbeer.
3. Malone was and is a chump pedo...but a points machine who made Stockton's career.
Stop crying
Imagine being a Utah fan
Stop the press!!!
For those who think that John Stockton was a better pick for the #dreamteam must have lost there 🐇 🐰 @$$ Mind!!!
No 👎 #Comparison what so ever!!!
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Then that B.A.N. Karl Malone did that sucker 🤬 to Zeke in Utah. He knew not to play games in the city.
Next game, Malone elbowed Zeke and gave him 40 stitches. Stockton and the Dream Team had the last laugh.
stockton was a joke
I ain't a Stockton fan but you are the fking joke lmao
That is the weakest defenses I’ve ever seen. The good old days.
Hush troll
Isaiah COMPLETELY DEMOLISHES Stockton, as anyone in Chicago knows he could have done nightly to anyone in the league. It is VERY STRANGE how Isaiah could be rejected from the Dream Team BUT COACH CHUCK DALEY, the ARCHITECT OF THE BAD BOYS STYLE OF PLAY; THE MAN WHO SANCTIONED THEIR STYLE OF PLAY, could be THE COACH. He's alright, he's O.K., he gets a pass- BUT one of top 10 players in the game is rejected- BUT HIS COACH IS ACCEPTED??????
He gets no pass from me, been saying it but getting blacks to turn on each other is the American way and they consistently do it. MJ & Magic were used to push this. I wasn't a Pistons fan growing up and loved MJ & Bulls but when you see Daly who Zeke defended and still does coach a team that left off his guy who deservedly belong you know more sinister dealing were going on and continue behind the scene. Daly should have told them to kick rocks if Zeke wasn't there. That entire Era supposedly was about loyalty and keeping stuff in house but he sells out Zeke for the Dream Team, huh? Thomas stuck up for Rodman after his Bird comments, you know he was sticking up for his teammate but look how easy it is to trash Zeke. I don't buy most the nonsense. Zeke should have been on Dream Team one not Stockton or that college guy.
@@Richard-xo2uv Nonsense. Stockton is a far better point guard than Thomas. Far better. Isaiah is a wicked scorer and a unique player.
@@bobcougar77 Thomas was better, period!
@@Richard-xo2uv Both are great players. Top 10 point guards all-time. we're welcome to argue who was better overall, it doesn't really matter. It's close enough that we're no going to get a definitative answer.
My point would be that Thomas was a score-first point guard. Stockton wasn't. The dream-team already had a few good scoring options and what they wanted was a point guard that would get the ball to those options. .... There is nobody in the history of the game that's going to fill that role better than Stockton.
I'd argue that the last thing the dream team needed was a shoot first point guard.
Swept a year earlier. And bullied out of the playoffs this (92) year by the knicks, no?
Isiah was better than Stockton. Isiah took his team to two tiles in a row. Stockton never got one. But forget about comparing him to Stockton, because Stockton also deserved to be on the Dream Team. Here is a list of guys on the Dream Team who had not come close to earning the spot on the roster over Thomas : 1) Laettner 2) Mullin 3) Drexler 4) Ewing.
Eeeeh Mullin deserved it bro...at the time Clyde n Pat too....now, I'll give you Shaq over Laetner bc even at the time that was the buzz....where was Zeke n Shaq should be in over Laetner were the two stories
Isiah was WAY better than Stockton. Super overrated
If he was really trying to show up another elite point guard, he shoulda dropped 18 assists. Instead, he proved he's a great streak shooter, which was already well known. Then the next night, he'll shoot 40% from the floor.........meanwhile, when they were trying to pick the best two POINT GUARDS for the Olympics, Magic and Stockton were the obvious selections.
People forget to tell the entire story;
This was the game in the beginning of the season when STOCKTON came from a major injury and played in the Olympics having almost no rest.
But still had 20 POINTS with just 10 shoots , 3 turnovers and 13 assists.
I.THomas did had 44 Points in 22 shoots, 5 turnovers and just 4 assists.
STOCKTON in 26 possessions gave his team 42 Points.
I.THOMAS in 27 possessions gave his team 40 Points.
Isiah was better than John at every level of basketball from high school through the pros. In fact, the only thing John ever won was a padded medal courtesy of Barkley and Jordan. Jason Kidd and Gary Payton were better as well. Hell Tim Hardaway and Kevin Johnson abused John too
@@elbowgang9715 yawn troll
Stop it😂if you were about telling the whole story you would say Zeke proved he was an elite assist guy throughout his early years. If the entire story was really important you would explain how Zeke changed his game and sacrificed for team success to play the way he did. The tape is there, the stats are there, and the first hand accounts from people in the know at the time is there for the WHOLE story. Zeke sacrificed to be a champion...and that takes nothing from Stockton but he never showed sacrificing his game for the greater good, he stayed who he was....and in fact Stockton himself in interviews has reflected back thinking perhaps he should have shot more often....if the WHOLE story truly mattered to you
The matchup results that night in 1991: John Stockton 20 and 13, points to assists. Isiah: 44 and 4. Stockton the better passer, by a lot.
People forget to tell the entire story;
That was a game in the beginning of the season when Thomas already knew he was snubbed from the Dream Team..he was playing to show off..while Stockton was playing to win.
Stilll had 20 POINTS with just 10 shoots , 3 turnovers and 13 assists.
I.THomas did had 44 Points in 22 shoots, 5 turnovers and just 4 assists.
STOCKTON in 26 possessions gave his team 42 Points.
I.THOMAS in 27 possessions gave his team 40 Points.
@@onlyfacts3178 ..
and 30 years later what do we remember...Isiah with 2 NBA championship rings...and Stockton with none. Job well done.
@@scottbarnum4483 everyone knows who is the all time leader in assists and everyone knows the DREAM TEAM.
Almost nobody knows who won a ring 30 years ago.
@@onlyfacts3178 lol the lies you tell
@@scottbarnum4483 i remember the all time leader in steals and assists.
Dream Team Statement game? Lmfao 🤣 he didnt make any statements against anybody else on that Dream Team lol
To bad Isiah didn't get the memo. The Dream Team had plenty of guys who could score in bunches. They needed a second distributor. Isiah finished this game with 4 assists. Stockton finished with 13 and still got 20 points.
Isiah is number 10 all time on the assist leader list so this notion that he wasn't the assist man that Stockton was i nonsense and keep in mind Stockton played 19 seasons and Isiah played 11/12. How many assists would Isiah have had had he played another 7/8 years.
@user-hy3nu7vm7v wow, that's a very uneducated take. Isiah led the NBA in assists once, Stockton 8. Isiah almost averaged 14 assists a game once 13.9. Stockton averaged 13.6, 13.7, 13.8, 14.2, and 14.5. Stockton played 19 seasons. He played every gamec17 of those. Isiah played 13 seasons. He played every game once. Kid don't even try.
Stockton wasnt half the playmaker Isiah was. Half his assists are post dumps.
@@jayyarbrough9902 bs
That was the only game I.THOMAS played in the same level as STOCKTON...
All the other ones he was demolished by STOCKTON...most of them I.THOMAS wouldnt even finish the game.
Stockton couldn't even carry Zeke's shoes to the gym...Isiah is the GOAT for true point guards at that size
@@scottbarnum4483 Nice argument really shows your IQ...
STOCKTON was averaging
17 PPG / 14 ASS / 3 STEALS / shooting 52%FG.
@@onlyfacts3178 ..So your IQ is limited to looking up a stat line on google,? If you watched a game you would know most of Stockton's assists were to Karl Malone (one on the top 3 power forwards ever) and his jump shot was knocking down wide open jumpers from the double teams on Karl.
@@onlyfacts3178 ...Difference is this...you put Stockton on the Bad Boys Pistons and they don't win a championship. You put isiah with the Jazz and Karl would have a few rings.
@@scottbarnum4483 ???? says who???
SHUT UP and stick to FACTS.
SO you are saying that a PLAYER that lead the league 9 times in a row and lead the league in steals twice averaging almost the same POINTS as I.Thomas with less shoots, shooting over 51%FG wouldnt make the PISTONS better??ahahahha
Still didn’t make the team 🤣
This game was after he didn't make the team so he already knew he didn't make the team 🤷🏿♂️
@@jerryalexander8803 still left off
@@PhilPeeVa still scored 44 and won the game 🤷🏿♂️.. Peace ✌🏿
@@jerryalexander8803 losing record vs Stockton peace
@@PhilPeeVa 2 rings..
Stockton is more great than asiah
Steph Curry will bury all the Piston players alive and put their fans to Sleep!!!!
Joe Dumars would lock 🚫Steph Curry up
@@alexanderadonyae7937 hahahaha Joe Dumas hahahahaha
Isiah just had his way against the entire Jazz squad. He usually trusted his teammates and passed out of double teams. Yeah. Not on my birthday with Stockton in the crosshairs.