❌ Do not say these during a salary negotiation! 🙈

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  • čas přidán 20. 06. 2023

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  • @AdviceWithErin
    @AdviceWithErin  Před rokem +42

    Snag my free salary negotiation guide here! advicewitherin.com/free-salary-guide

    • @zrnnn
      @zrnnn Před rokem

      Hi Erin, is this also applicable for your first full time position right after graduation?

  • @kball4737
    @kball4737 Před rokem +882

    I'm so glad you talk about this, so many older people in the workforce especially act like it's so taboo to talk wages!!!

    • @scawydemon
      @scawydemon Před rokem +23

      It is considered taboo, but sometimes taboos are kinda silly.

    • @kimbrolyy
      @kimbrolyy Před 11 měsíci +6

      I'm happy to talk about my salary for that reason. I don't mind it when people don't want to, but I remember when I started and didn't know whether I was being underpaid or not

    • @steveh5307
      @steveh5307 Před 9 měsíci

      Do you talk about how much you make with your family and friends? Do you actually say hey I make $60k, how much do you make? Do you go on a date and ask how much they make? Then why would you ask your coworker how much money they make? This whole thing is logically incongruent. So NO! You should NOT discuss wages. It's just cringe. Everybody's got a phone. Go look up what the typical pay is in your area. If you are below that, then it's on YOU to be an adult and negotiate. You feeling, "uncomfortable" is your own personal problem that nobody is obligated to cater to. Grow up and deal with reality.

    • @kimbrolyy
      @kimbrolyy Před 9 měsíci

      @@steveh5307 I do talk about my salary with friends and family. You say it's cringe, but I think that's just because you've been made to think that by companies and older generations

    • @Nol.
      @Nol. Před 8 měsíci +19

      @@steveh5307you seem pretty hostile. Are you doing okay?
      Discussing your wages with your coworkers is different from your family, because industry standard doesn’t necessarily reflect your workplace, and your coworkers aren’t your friends or your date- they are people who are also working for money. Why wouldn’t you discuss your wages? It brings power back into the hands of the workers. You have been conditioned to think it’s cringy, because that’s what gives employers more power. Kind of like how unions have been villainized- they benefit workers to the chagrin of companies, so companies have made them seem like bad things.

  • @MelissaKimm
    @MelissaKimm Před 8 měsíci +187

    I just did this and it worked! They gave me 15k more after they extended the offer!! Love your tips

  • @MiaCarter7
    @MiaCarter7 Před 8 měsíci +73

    This is great advice. Side note, I’m so fed up with unfair working conditions, I’m tired of negotiating my worth with other humans.

    • @alycran
      @alycran Před 7 měsíci +4

      Remember it’s not about your worth or value as a person, it’s just professional❤ I have to remember that

    • @davidthedeaf
      @davidthedeaf Před 3 měsíci

      In some countries they bargain for everything they buy. If they are buying your time you have to be able to sell those skills as being more rare, specialized, and will save the company money in the long run due to your experience rather than short term savings of a newbie hire. Consider this as one more skill you should develop.

  • @amyleanneschintler
    @amyleanneschintler Před rokem +65

    Thank you. I spoke to my manager today about a pay rise. As a 52 year old this was my first time asking for one. Thank you for your videos. It gave me confidence and made me feel brave. Update. Well still waiting for this to come through. Have now resigned and will be sharing a new position elsewhere where I know I will be appreciated.

    • @alycran
      @alycran Před 7 měsíci +7

      Good for you!!

    • @AliPi7
      @AliPi7 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Good for you!! You gotta now your value and walk away.
      I’m 39 and I guess it comes with age, but I no longer entertain situations or people where my needs aren’t met. I don’t have time for foolishness. Onto the bigger and better things ❤❤

    • @dammar117
      @dammar117 Před dnem

      Resigning at 52 is particularly gutsy.

  • @MaybejustNarbe
    @MaybejustNarbe Před 9 měsíci +146

    Guys I’m about to try this in 2 hours 😵 I’ll let you know how it goes 😵
    Update : these companies are heartless 😞

    • @sarayupalanivel3148
      @sarayupalanivel3148 Před 7 měsíci +4

      What happened :')

    • @MaybejustNarbe
      @MaybejustNarbe Před 7 měsíci

      @@sarayupalanivel3148 they did NOT accept my request BUT I still took the job because the industry standardly pays well and I needed the experience.
      The company is a dumpster fire but I am getting a lot of hits by recruiters so I won’t stay AND I’ll make a much better salary when I go, so it all works out ❤️

    • @AliPi7
      @AliPi7 Před 7 měsíci +3

      I’m sorry 😢

    • @bbch088
      @bbch088 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Lol 😂 thinking skills so poor nowadays. It will always be dependent on context and actual circumstances. It is just a u guide to negotiate, doesn’t mean it will work 100% of the time because, shocker, there are other factors at play here 😅
      People always want easy answers and silver bullet

    • @platesweightspeaks
      @platesweightspeaks Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes they are. Even with my predecessor making more than what I was asking for, and I have a higher education in the field than they do I was still denied.

  • @sotacoresabreenav
    @sotacoresabreenav Před rokem +82

    Thank you for these videos! I am in the middle of a career shift in my 30's and your advice is helping me navigate through my transition. Appreciate you! 🙏🏻

    • @thestevestohl
      @thestevestohl Před 6 měsíci

      Heck yes! Erin is such a smartie and I share her videos amongst colleagues and new hires. The people I work with are amazing and they should get the best return. I feel these videos help in this competitive environment.

  • @asadb1990
    @asadb1990 Před rokem +134

    My first employer paid me 53k and acted like i was a fairly good performer but their range for a raise was like 3-4%. When i got laid off and was reapplying in the market got a raise of around 20k without even trying. Could have asked for more but being laid off and needing a job desparately didn't counter at all.

  • @armelle6667
    @armelle6667 Před 9 měsíci +12

    Oh god.. I did that "Is the salary negotiable..? 🥺 " bit godamnit

  • @chrisantadelao
    @chrisantadelao Před 6 měsíci +10

    I'm about to try this tomorrow- pray for me! It will be the first time I EVER negotiate my pay and I'm just a CNA! I"m happy if they offer me $18 an hour!

  • @allieb549
    @allieb549 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I did this and it worked, and the silent thing you say to do, I did that. Apparently the boys was really impressed that I expressed my value to the role. Thank you for what you do Erin, I saw the short about 4 times before I did the negotiation and I was thinking I have nothing to lose and channel Erin. I'm so thankful. You are the best.

  • @jontnoneya3404
    @jontnoneya3404 Před 10 měsíci +30

    FYI your tips at the bottom are covered up by your short titles and it's impossible to read them all in the time you have them on the screen.

  • @noellecaraway1195
    @noellecaraway1195 Před rokem +11

    See my issue is that my state just passed a law saying the minimum salary wage has to start at 65k, but employers aren't following that, they are finding loopholes to avoid paying salary employees that starting wage, so I wanna discuss if the job I'm applying for is following state law or not, but I can't find a good way to word it without sounding rude

    • @squidleyskidley
      @squidleyskidley Před 10 měsíci +1

      What state?!

    • @Key_1111
      @Key_1111 Před 8 měsíci

      ​​@@squidleyskidley So salary has to be atleast 2x minimum wage. Here in California our minimum wage is $15.50 so it's probably here or in any other state with a high minimum wage.

    • @alycran
      @alycran Před 7 měsíci

      @@Key_1111wuuuut

  • @lorenapacora1526
    @lorenapacora1526 Před 4 měsíci +3

    can you do that if 1. its an entree level position you just finished college? and 2. if they say no, that stays that way, what do you do? u say Ok ill agree? and just accept it??

  • @journeyoflovelight
    @journeyoflovelight Před 3 dny

    I really appreciate you. Im retired and not going to work again but I can see where your advice and wording can help with lots of life things. Im grateful that you teach towards those of us that had no teaching about what to do. 🦉💐

  • @marioalbertoperezmartinez6852
    @marioalbertoperezmartinez6852 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I had a job offer. Look for this video. Did exactly what you said and it worked! Thank you Erin!

  • @adisyncunningham297
    @adisyncunningham297 Před rokem +21

    Thank you so much for this as it will always
    become useful in the future, and I am very happy that you show us what exactly it is most people do wrong. It helps us to know what *not* to do! *👹💅sTaY sAfE👹💅*

  • @evahoffmann5683
    @evahoffmann5683 Před rokem +7

    Hey, Erin! What are some tips you’d recommend when negotiating a salary for a job that already has a listed salary range?

  • @sn5rt
    @sn5rt Před 10 měsíci +5

    Is it okay to negotiate when you’re hired without an appropriate working experience and they’re going to teach you?

    • @lorenapacora1526
      @lorenapacora1526 Před 4 měsíci +1

      thiss. like how does it work for ppl who are just starting but know that they dont want to be exploited and all their education is worth more than that

  • @Ghurdill
    @Ghurdill Před 9 měsíci +6

    As a recruiter (hospitality, sales and marketing) its partially true. While you should not reveal your current salary, unless it is much higher than what they are trying to offer you, you should still mention that past remuneration was higher. It goes along your market readings. you should always negociate on what the high average for a position type is. For exemple ;
    If the average salary for a project manager is 80 to a 100k, and you as a current project manager, or assistant manager makes 84k, you should negociate for 100k and back it up with your realisation, your achievements, level of responsability etc etc. Thats how you raise your chances.

    • @dammar117
      @dammar117 Před dnem

      Don't reveal your salary even if it's higher. I lost a great opportunity because i made the mistake of disclosing my current salary, which was their top limit. I could tell they really liked me, but after two rounds, they didn't select me. Probably went with someone cheaper. I would have taken a lower salary just for the great organization and opportunity this was.

    • @Ghurdill
      @Ghurdill Před dnem

      @@dammar117 Yeah but we are talkinbg about different situations here. Today, with the massive increases in costs of living, job hunt is more than EVER influenced by salaries, to the point were we have to communication with thenth of thousands of companies to push them to disclose the salary ranges for positions. Quite often those that refuse to do it are under market averages.

    • @dammar117
      @dammar117 Před dnem

      @@Ghurdill I was not talking about company disclosure, but the subject of this video.

    • @dammar117
      @dammar117 Před dnem

      @@Ghurdill I mean, I was responding to OP's comment. They were recommending telling a recruiter one's salary: "While you should not reveal your current salary, unless it is much higher than what they are trying to offer you [...]."

    • @Ghurdill
      @Ghurdill Před 20 hodinami

      @@dammar117 Yeah, and I responded to this that while aht you said can be true for your case, it is still a singular situation were you applied for a position for which you had already capped. Which is not a usual move, therefor its difficult to make a generality out of it. And making a generality was my Original point.

  • @Lazzarros
    @Lazzarros Před měsícem +1

    And what to do when the salary is 40% under the standard and they say: Sorry, unfortunately, the salary is non-negotiable. Are you still interested?"Then you say, sorry, but it doesn't align with my expectations...etc. And then they hire one of the other 300 people that had applied for the job?

  • @lorengomez8603
    @lorengomez8603 Před rokem +3

    This would've been so useful yesterday 😭 all I said was that "it depended on the budget for the role"

  • @ishikasheth3119
    @ishikasheth3119 Před 8 měsíci +6

    How do I negotiate the salary as a fresher in the industry?

    • @Addielp
      @Addielp Před měsícem

      Yes!! I’m looking for this! How much can you negotiate as a new grad 😢😳

  • @yuliiabezrukova5687
    @yuliiabezrukova5687 Před měsícem

    This is outstanding advise! Thank you Erin

  • @tasiaplunkett
    @tasiaplunkett Před 9 měsíci +1

    These videos are so helpful! Recently got hired with my first job out of college and knew nothing about salary negotiation and now I'm stuck with a low salary and slow growth until I leave

    • @alycran
      @alycran Před 7 měsíci

      At your 6 month mark, ask for a raise!

  • @dammar117
    @dammar117 Před dnem

    I lost a great opportunity because i made the mistake of disclosing my current salary, which was their top limit. I could tell they really liked me, but after two rounds, they didn't select me. Probably went with someone cheaper. I would have taken a lower salary just for the great organization and opportunity this was.

  • @Hello-ep2fx
    @Hello-ep2fx Před 16 hodinami

    I feel like they would just lie hiring u and then continuously say you’ll get it u just have to do this or wait to get approved. I’ve been through this to many times.

  • @javadali9672
    @javadali9672 Před rokem +16

    What if they deny your request? Should you accept it anyway or not?

    • @JS-mg1mk
      @JS-mg1mk Před 9 měsíci +2

      Depends on how much you want/need that specific job. If you are really trying to hit a specific number and have been interviewing at multiple places and can afford to walk away it makes sense to do so. Negotiation just comes down to what both parties are willing to accept.

    • @AliPi7
      @AliPi7 Před 7 měsíci +7

      That depends on your situation.
      I have a family of 5 and I absolutely cannot earn less then $65-$70/yr. In order for me to keep a roof over our heads and food in our bellies, I literally cannot accept anything less then. And my asking salary is legit the bare minimum just to help us survive at this point.
      I would have to move on if they couldn’t meet my salary needs.

  • @ccaalluuss
    @ccaalluuss Před 9 měsíci +1

    Been polite many times. If it's a no it's a no.

  • @icanhazgoodgame3845
    @icanhazgoodgame3845 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I needed a raise from work because I was underpaid considering my output and responsibilities and was hit with a $200/month rent increase that along with other increasing living expenses I was financially stretched thin.
    I went to my boss and negotiated a $9K raise that would take effect after planned department reshuffling in 10 weeks. Needing money now. I just told him the truth that would accept the raise in 10 weeks but need a couple hundred a month immediately due to rising expenses. He dragged out a calculator punched a few numbers and said "I appreciate your honestly and to expect the increase to take effect next pay period"

  • @justinlipper8526
    @justinlipper8526 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @photograleah
    @photograleah Před 6 měsíci

    Erin you’re the best!!

  • @vasylin77
    @vasylin77 Před 11 měsíci +1

    my go to is “I make around X, so anything above would be great” or “I have an offer for X, but I like your studio more” (if it’s true)

  • @barbarafreis
    @barbarafreis Před 5 měsíci

    It worked for me! And I am all the way in Brazil! I've learned so much, Erin! ❤

  • @ATravelingBroadTV
    @ATravelingBroadTV Před rokem +2

    Very helpful video. Thanks!
    Can you do one on how to respond to a request to return to the office when others don’t have to? I live 3.5 hours from my company’s office and despite this, I’m being asked to make the 7-8 hour roundtrip drive twice a month when others don’t have to.

  • @lizsobeautiful4480
    @lizsobeautiful4480 Před 7 měsíci

    THANK YOU

  • @lowermichigan4437
    @lowermichigan4437 Před rokem +5

    My last interview was odd. They came out and stated what the salary was then asked me if that was ok.
    It was less than I was hoping and would have been a pay cut. Made the rest of the interview much easier on my side.

  • @Gabydance16
    @Gabydance16 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you truly

  • @Jojobreez
    @Jojobreez Před 20 dny

    She ate!!

  • @janetslater129
    @janetslater129 Před 8 dny

    There is a position with the university here that I may apply for, and hell their starting minimum pay is already about twice of what I currently earn. I would be totally happy with 50k.

  • @goldengracegreen
    @goldengracegreen Před rokem +28

    what if they say it’s not negotiable or just say no?

    • @Andrea286x
      @Andrea286x Před rokem +1

      Same queation here

    • @alexreid1173
      @alexreid1173 Před rokem +15

      It depends a bit, but I would say that you won’t be able to take that position if they can’t offer what you’re asking for, but you would like to be considered for other roles in the future. Obviously if you don’t have better offers, you might just have to take what you can get, but if you don’t really need that job, don’t take it for less than you’re worth. If they really want you, they’ll negotiate.

    • @infamouscha
      @infamouscha Před rokem +10

      You may want to consider another company then.
      Not negotiable, AT ALL, is a red flag.
      They’re either lying to you or they are a shady company.
      There is always room for negotiation, even if it’s not salary. There’s paid vacation, stock options, severance packages, and other things that you can negotiate for that isn’t salary.
      If it’s a no to every single thing, then chances are likely this is not a company you want to work for.

    • @b26550
      @b26550 Před rokem +2

      If they're not going to negotiate, just thank them for their time and keep looking. You might still get the position. Always keep your options open though

    • @AdviceWithErin
      @AdviceWithErin  Před rokem +23

      Depends on your leverage! If you have the ability to walk away, negotiate harder. Read Never Split The Difference by Chris Vos!

  • @jenniferellsworth1226
    @jenniferellsworth1226 Před měsícem +1

    😂😂😂65 Feels more appropriate....OMG. she is talking about, "the feels" in a salary negotiation. Oh dear.

  • @lbr88x30
    @lbr88x30 Před 5 měsíci

    I sort of said that....but not as smoothly. 🤞 Hopefully it goes well.

  • @mariajones511
    @mariajones511 Před 9 měsíci

    Do you have a video or short about negotiating a salary that is stated as non-negotiable?

  • @shadow5467
    @shadow5467 Před 10 měsíci

    I don't know if you already have something on this, but, Could you do one but where you've already worked at That company for a year, and it's like a part-time job.

  • @mpGreen03
    @mpGreen03 Před 7 měsíci

    Have you made the same video but to ask for salary increase in the current company? I will be moving from junior to mid role (my manager told me so) soon and really am afraid of getting low offer.

  • @Ballira
    @Ballira Před 2 měsíci

    I see that you do a lot of videos for negotiations with someone face-to-face. I was if you have any advice for people who are still putting out applications and the job application systems that make it mandatory that you tell them 1. what you are requesting for the salary, even though they list the exact salary they have on their job ad, and 2. when they don't include this information and ask what you're expecting to make from the job and 3. when they require you to include what you made from your previous/current job? Lots of these job ads come up on Indeed, Career Builder, and LinkedIn is notorious for jobs that require you to include the information before the form will even allow you to submit. anything.

  • @ElisaLopez015
    @ElisaLopez015 Před 4 měsíci

    I’m going to try the next chance I get!

  • @ShivamSapra
    @ShivamSapra Před 8 měsíci

    You are genius

  • @benceszke7209
    @benceszke7209 Před 11 měsíci +1

    No no "revealing" salary can be handy. You can use it to push ypur bottom line higer by saging a salary that is actually higher and closer to what you want😊

  • @kurisuchiinccb
    @kurisuchiinccb Před 4 měsíci

    how to refuse training with bond and not related to my current job title. i'm having a feeling they'll add this job once i accept the training.

  • @Emzplace-09
    @Emzplace-09 Před 6 měsíci

    Life saver ❤

  • @1yearleft
    @1yearleft Před rokem +1

    i really ike ur adivice but i think u should explain why to say what n what not rathr than just saying lines

  • @saginur4380
    @saginur4380 Před rokem

    I'm still a child but what is an appropriate counter for the expected salary?
    Thanks in advance!

  • @Lola-rn2jj
    @Lola-rn2jj Před 10 měsíci

    What about negotiating at a nonprofit? It's a more established organization but I still wonder if I should?
    I wouldn't even asking for much more, like 3k more a year. 🥴

  • @ranggakd
    @ranggakd Před 5 měsíci

    what if the HR team asked me to reveal my previous salary first?

  • @eadams1057
    @eadams1057 Před 6 měsíci

    I am pursuing a new position where Im at now. My salary now is 78k with a car. The new position is in a different department but the high is a few K less. My boss called to tell me they had a call with the hiring manager so I may be getting a call with an offer. Been in my field for over 20 years and my experience would certainly be beneficial in this new position. Would I be able to negotiate above their high range for the position? My fear is they would rather hire a younger person and pay less.

  • @naveyarg9771
    @naveyarg9771 Před 6 měsíci

    " i know this is a gym job... but can i smoke in here??? "

  • @vminhope3040
    @vminhope3040 Před 7 měsíci

    Does this work for retail… because trying to negotiate is like talking to a walk

  • @rajashrin5221
    @rajashrin5221 Před 7 měsíci

    Can we email this?

  • @akankshakonar6035
    @akankshakonar6035 Před rokem +2

    How to do the same as a fresher with no prior experience.

    • @timtresch4848
      @timtresch4848 Před rokem

      you don't you need to bring skills/abilities to a company they don't have, and are having problems finding candidates who do have them.

  • @yesyes9698
    @yesyes9698 Před 11 měsíci

    Why you sound like ChatGPT lmao

  • @michaelwebb1071
    @michaelwebb1071 Před 9 měsíci

    What's a salary negotiation?

  • @crazynance
    @crazynance Před rokem

    Been watching my old interviews again eh?

  • @averynmitchell
    @averynmitchell Před 10 měsíci

    Is it appropriate to negotiate your salary if you are offered a full-time job upon the completion of an internship?

    • @HandfulOfTranquility
      @HandfulOfTranquility Před 8 měsíci

      Personally, I think so. Internships are a great way to get your foot in the door, but that ease of getting a job also makes it easy to not try for competitive offers! I would suggest interviewing with other companies, then if you have other offers then you can say " I really want to work at your company, my internship has been a great experience, but I have another offer at $xxx, what are you able to do to close this gap?"

  • @AliPi7
    @AliPi7 Před 7 měsíci

    Can we say “I wore many different hats at my previous job. I can step up to different roles when needed, and this would make me a valuable asset in your organization” - or am I asking for trouble because now they know they can spread me thin lol

  • @user-uv1ko4ku5q
    @user-uv1ko4ku5q Před 5 měsíci

    What advice can you give about my situation?
    Ive asked for a salary raise from 47000 to 63,000 pesos
    But when the adjustment came they only give me 50000 i said on my email that i really need at least 10000 because iam studying and working, it can help me with my tuition,
    What should i do?

  • @homeemail1993
    @homeemail1993 Před 6 měsíci

    Should tou negotiate if it is your first job with no experience? What if you feel the salary was low but you know you dont bring much to the table

    • @scottmatznick3140
      @scottmatznick3140 Před měsícem

      Always negotiate. Their goal is cheap labor. Yours is the opposite. Learn your value and work on negotiation skills. If it's your first job, then it doesn't matter if you don't succeed. Next time you will.

  • @prokrastnation6071
    @prokrastnation6071 Před 11 měsíci +3

    “We’re going to pass- we have 50,000 other applicants, many of which are minorities. Good luck with your job search!”

  • @fluffytail6355
    @fluffytail6355 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Don’t push too hard, especially if you don’t have actual experience in the niche you are applying for and if a generous benefits package is included.

    • @carolinmerkereh929
      @carolinmerkereh929 Před 6 měsíci +1

      But what about if you have bachelor and No experience. During the first interview asked for lower rate of your value .?

    • @fluffytail6355
      @fluffytail6355 Před 2 měsíci

      @@carolinmerkereh929I never discuss salary until an offer is made and even if the employer asks before that, I will ask for clarification on the salary range being offered. That Bachelor means nothing without experience and benefits packages can add as much as 30% to your salary, especially if you don’t have to pay anything out of pocket toward the premiums.

  • @retro-zx6dx
    @retro-zx6dx Před rokem +5

    Pay me $XXk or else......
    You have two days.....
    Manager: two days for what?
    Idk they always give a ultimatum.

  • @Name01590
    @Name01590 Před 10 měsíci

    UGH I really don’t like those search tags. Blocking the texts 👎👎

  • @administratorperson3272

    slower... refference jim, tv show taxi, driver license test.

  • @ditystanut
    @ditystanut Před 7 měsíci

    And what to do if you have no skills?

  • @fredyyfredfreddy
    @fredyyfredfreddy Před rokem

    If you aren't an engineer or a doctor you won't be getting 30 000:-

  • @georgedolphino
    @georgedolphino Před rokem

    What do you mean you can’t reveal your previous salary sites mandate it when applying for jobs LOL

    • @missangela10
      @missangela10 Před rokem +2

      Even if they ask, you are under no obligation to tell a prospective employer your current salary. In some U.S. states it is even illegal for an employer to seek this information from your previous or current employer.

  • @AdviceWithErin
    @AdviceWithErin  Před rokem

    Snag my free salary negotiation guide here! advicewitherin.com/free-salary-guide