How Does the New 4-Cylinder Chevy Silverado Tow a Max Load Up the World's Toughest Towing Test?
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They should have put that engine in the Colorado
They should have put the 6.2L in the Colorado! :D
@@Kcducttaper1 Lol yeah so it could tip forward every time you stop :P
@@thedefinitive6296 it would be fine people have put v8s in Colorado's the engine isn't that heavy.
It has a better engine option already.
Looks good but with any new engine I'd still wait a few years to let them work out the bugs.
Almost love reading the comments more than watching the video. Chevy people hate Ford opinions, Ford people hate Chevy opinions. Great way to enjoy my morning cup of Joe.
It gets annoying
And they are all experts OR engineers OR they know a guy who has a cousin whos neighbors dad worked with a dude that blah blah blah... No to mention the same crap from the same person on every video thats not their preferred brand or model.
At least you have the cup of coffee 🤣 and what seems like a solid outlook on life. Positive vibes your way! Thanks for your non-negative comment.
Yea Chevy people blasted Ford for the 3.5 eco V6. Then really laughed about the 2.7 eco V6 saying how it wont last 50k miles. Turbo motors will never last, to many moving parts (i dont get this one) Then Chevy makes a 4 banger 2.7 turbo and its the best thing since sliced bread and the Ford camp laughs about it being a 4 cylinder.
There have been inline 6 and v6 engines in half tons for decades and they did the job they were designed for. But this 4 banger Im not feeling it sorry.
@@Grem135 I think the only reasonable comment could be something like "this isn't the right vehicle for me and/or my family because..." Anecdotally spamming how something is unequivocally bad because of one person's viewpoint is nuts. An F150 or 1500 isn't enough truck for my lifestyle personally, but I can sure as hell see my 16 year old kid driving one of these since I have to foot the gas bill! My mom might love one of these. I don't know... The average joe saying an entire line of car should or shouldn't exist is odd to me. I've never had a Chrysler Sebring, but they're out there! Someone was buying those things!
In addition, what if this thing has piston oil jets and an 8 stud main and a 4x3.5" boreXstroke and the short block is cast iron and weighs 400 lbs, with a forged crank, rods, and pistons? There's been some SERIOUS 4 cyl boosted engines out in the world putting out serious power for extended periods of time. I mean a cummins passenger truck diesel engine is 1000tq and it's an i6... It's certainly atypical to see boosted GAS engines towing. It's atypical to see them in a truck! But the BMW N54 (and E9X series) and the 1JZ and 2JZ are infamous and notorious contenders in the inline boosted engines category. Personal opinion is we've not had the engine management, transmissions, heat management, and technology to support these radical changes until now. It's an amazing time to be alive for sure :)
LOL! Most of the guys I work with should trade in there $70k 3/4 ton trucks for one of these. All they ever haul is there lunch boxes anyhow.
Cody Hannah. Or their beer cooler
@@wilfredluttmer15 Lite beer no doubt
Hmm, most of the guys I work with regularly put 5000 lbs or more in their beds. Turns out steel for Ground engaging tools is quite heavy... Ill take the 3/4 ton any day, while I roll in comfort with more than the weight of an f150 in the bed...
www.greencarreports.com/news/1121113_chevy-silverado-mpg-turbo-4-lower-than-v-8-in-gas-mileage-test
@@mts982 that's great and all, but I've found that tested mpg numbers depend more on the driver than on the vehicle. For example, tfl tested this truck at 24mpg on the highway while the people in your article tested it at 18mpg on the highway. That's a significant difference.
Update on engine reliability: I bought a 2019 GMC Sierra SLE with the 2.7 inNovember of 2019. I got a incredible deal because it was on the lot and the dealer said they were having trouble selling the engine.
About 50k of miles on it now… and it’s a beast. Not a single engine issue and I push it hard and have maxed the payload multiple times. I not surprised the refresh pushed the torque rating over 400lbs, because the 2.7 generates tons of torque at low RPMs. My only concern is the 8-speed. I am not a huge fan of it, compared to the 10s. I wish there were manuals in half size trucks😔.
I would buy this engine again. What GM needs to do is get this thing in AT4s /zr2s, and the colorado/canyons. The low RPM torque would make this thing an unstoppable off roader in the right configuration.
Kudos to GM, they nailed this engine. And fuel efficiency is 21.8mpg
Thanks for sharing! I know it’s only one persons experience but hopefully shed some fears that a lot of traditionalist truckers seem to have over engine size/makeup
@@gregoryf9299 you bet! I understand the hesitancy, i went to the dealer wanting the 3.0 diesel or the 5.3. If I didn’t get such a ridiculous deal I wouldn’t have considered the 2.7.
It’s been fun being the Guinea pig with this truck. I get tons of questions from the dealer service dept, and a few of the mechanics have told me they have had nothing but positive experiences working on the engines.
Fingers crossed the truck runs good long into the future!
@working_country ___ lol, not in mixed city driving.
2022 update. GM is slapping it in the Colorado/ZR2. Going to be fire. Can't wait. Probably will snatch up a new ZR2.
@@MixedGrid a Zr2 with this engine is going to be unstoppable off road, I also saw that they are putting larger Silverado wheels and tires on it, smart!
As much as I want to reserve one, I think I am going to stick with the Sierra, I like the larger size for what I use it for. If they announce a manual transmission though…. Man my heart would be pulled hard haha.
Did you all ever do a refresh update… the new 4 cylinder has 430 torque now with 9600 lb. towing. It’d be interesting to see!
I'm not paying $50,000 for a truck with half an engine
Base model 2019 gmc 4 cyclinder $31,000 with rebates is more reasonable... $50,000 for any truck is ridiculous.
lmfao
@Wheel bearing a load of 6,700 lbs. not 9,700 like the others. impressive stock 4 cyl but definitely not a good truck engine
I can get a new Cummins for close to those prices. 50k for a half ton. 22 mpg? I got 19 when I test drove a new superduty empty. Who buys these baby trucks at big truck prices.
Yea, for a sticker price of 35K and then add discounts this is a great deal. If i am spending out of pocket north of 35 grand a 4 cylinder is not even considered.
I laughed at this configuration whet it came out and I have since change my mind about it. This based on a good friend purchasing one of these about 8 months ago as his daily work truck. He drives roughly 200 miles per day and he’s very happy with the power and the mileage is nearly double his diesel F250. The truck is the base model and he only paid 27k for the truck. Time will tell how long it last but for now it seems like a pretty good work truck.
Highly doubt it gets twice the mileage of F250 diesel.
@@borysnijinski331 Considering the F-250 was getting about 15-16 in stop n go traffic and the shit box Chevy is getting 22... OK not double but factor in the cost of diesel and DEF, it's darn close. When you also consider the cost of any new diesel being 2x that of a stripper half ton it's quite a chunk of change. This thing is no luxury vehicle, it's throw away work truck he will put 250k on and replace. He's been in this thing almost 2 years now and it's clocked almost a100k. Only problem he's had is the AC condenser sprung a leak. Other than that it's been good to him.
@@scottg391 I currently drive a Nissan Frontier because I do use the truck but nothing more than the 6 cyl could ever handle. I tow a riding mower or a couple of quads. The more I look at this I’m thinking it’s all I’d ever need. Being 6’2” the frontier gets uncomfortable even driving 45 minutes plus since my knee replacement. My son bought the 1500 V8 and I love that thing. And I can get the same truck for $10k or more less with as much HP as I have in the frontier and better MPG. Thanks fir the information on your friends experience.
It’s a 2.7L turbo 4CL with VVT, AFM, and CD, it makes 310hp (probably port injection and DI) and comes with a 8 speed transmission, Chevy found a way to get the power of a V8 in a fuel efficient 4CL. Most people think the engines gonna be stressed but no. The 5.3 only put out somewhere just above 400hp , so if you think about it it’s really worth getting the 4CL if your not gonna be towing heavy stuff all the time
$47,000 for a 4 cylinder pick up truck! I never thought I'd see the day!!😪🤣
We are living in the "FUTURE"
GM is heading down the road to another bankruptcy. They did not deserve the bailout to begin. They definitely do not deserve one now with the garbage they are putting out. Four cylinder engines are not as popular as they fantasise they are. Most people hate them in anything but a compact car.
Bruh its a disgrace lol
@@silverrain99205 I see GM (Garbage Motors) has learned nothing from their bankruptcy and then bailout. Well, I guess they learned making an inferior product has no consequences. Their govenement buddies will bail out their worthless company to fail all over again.
Have you been on craigslist lately. Im beggining to think toyotas appreciate in value everyday older they get.
$45,000 for a full size truck that can do the work of a mid-size truck? Chevy can keep them.
2500 is the value for money truck
Four cylinder, turbo charged, engines are known to be an infamous combination. They will not make it to 100,000 miles.
@@indridcold8433 Big heavy truck, small little turbocharged 4 cylinder. I dont see this being reliable at all, thats a lot of stress on that engine.
@@harrison9992 Four cylinder turbo charged engines are traditionally a poor combination. The engines are running on the edge of destruction, already. Tax that tiny engine just a tiny bit more by pulling a full size pickup truck, that tiny engine will not make 100,000 miles without extensive repairs. Even smaller cars with a four cylinder turbo do not fare very well on the long run.
While I do see this being viable for the way most trucks are are used now (as minivans), I do question how this is better than my 90 f150 with a 300. Yes it makes more power but same MPG. Orginal sticker of $13k vs $45k, sorry there ain't been that much inflation.
They keep comparing it to what the V8 trucks and other half ton trucks have done... but we must remember those trucks all did these same tests with more weight on the trailer! So not surprising it took fewer brake applications and made a benchmark run.
I have a 2019 GMC sierra with the 2.7 engine, just turn 20,000km(12,427miles) and so far I'm really impress, best fuel economy I've seen is 8.1L/100km (29 us mpg). I towed a 6000 lbs camping trailer in the rockies foothills, cruise set at 105(65) and average fuel economy was 24L/100km(9.8 us mpg). I miss the sound of a v8 but otherwise the truck does what it's suppose to do. Not regretting my purchase. Time will tell!
How has it been ? Reliable? Rumor is, this engine is going in the new colorado. Which will be perfect for that truck.
@@DownAndDirtyOffRoad so far so good, I just turn 55000km. No major issue but I had to change the cam sensor and once the purge valve. Otherwise, only regular oil change, still run like a new truck (to me) lol. Have a great weekend.
I'm going to wait and see on this one. My buddy bought a new ford with the 2.7 and I thought he was crazy till I drove it. Runs good and pull fine
I have a 2018 2.7 STX. Bought it because it was on sale, not because I thought it was better than everything else. Damn thing is too fast, really. I love it. I'd also like to own a 3.0 GM inline 6 diesel. Too much good stuff out there. I'd like to own an optioned out Ram 1500 with all the bells and whistles.
I bought one Saturday lightly used. 26k it’s a beast!!! I don’t haul 6k lbs!
You guys sure pump out a ton of content. The Ike gauntlet of truck review channels!
Can you please show us the footage of the truck getting up to speed? It seems like recently you guys hardly show the main cluster and that is one of the best parts. Don’t skip from when you floor it to when it hits 60, that’s one of the best parts of the video.
Also how how the transmission gets that’s important
@@gustavocervantes5604 been driving one while my 6.4l hemi ram is in the shop, honestly im impressed with it, might get a crate one to swap my 84 cavalier instead of the 3800 v6
Best thing about this Chevy is that the neighbor wont ask to borrow it anymore
You will make great friends with your tow truck driver, also.
Who the hell loans their truck to their neighbor anyways ive never heard that.
@@junkyarddog9129 Nobody loans their truck to their neighbour. But it does not stop the neighbour from asking.
humpty,.... hahaha lol now that was funny
Who talks to their neighbors
The nice thing about the truck segment is that they always offer a lot of options. I’m a little skeptical of this configuration also. So I think if I was looking for a budget truck I would consider the 4.3 custom, because that engine is tried and true. However, here’s to looking ahead!😊
It will be interesting to see how this 4 cylinder engine does long term. That's a lot of stress on a small 4 cylinder..
MrOseetah ikr that’s why you would only see the in cars /compact SUV’s. Now if they put a 4cylinder in a suburban, Cadillac or Yukon the mpg rating will be more worse than the 5.3 V-8 that they have
2.7 isn't really a small 4 banger it's actually quite large for a 4 cylinder. Just saying. But I do agree
I'm curious my self of the longevity of this engine
If the majority of buyers that normally buy these underpowered lawnmower engine equipped cars, it'll last a few years, if they buy it to tow max weight every day it won't last long.
Ford has proven that with their EcoBoost. GM's 4 cylinder is a little more advanced. So my guess is that they should hold up.
Just imagine that engine in a smaller chevy truck like a chevy Colorado 👍
I want the v8 back
@ihategooglespooks
I think he means he wants the v8 back in the Colorado.
Ford tried it in the new Ranger and it's mediocre. It gets mediocre mpgs and has has a a tiny gas tank. I'll keep my turbodiesel Colorado. Have it tuned and it gets 35 mpgs and 700 + miles on a tank with the tuner
I'm thinking something more like a Cruze
@@xephael3485
Cruze is discontinued. The Malibu is still in production though, currently the Malibu only has a 2.0 l turbo, it would be cool to see a Malibu SS with a 2.7 l turbo.
I like the new editing with the insight. Good job guys. Keep up the good work
That engine in a small coupe would be interesting. But for my truck I will stick to my LS.
It's not a an ls engine you jacklehead.
The LS based small-block engine is the primary V-8 used in General Motors' line of rear-wheel-drive cars and trucks. Introduced in January 1995, it is a "clean sheet" design with only rod bearings, lifters, and bore spacing in common with the longstanding Chevrolet small block V8 that preceded it as the basis for GM small-block V8s. The basic LS variations use cast iron blocks, while performance editions are all aluminium with cast iron cylinder liners.
@@jamesryan1939 sure.
@@Pabloperes675 No problem, love educating the internet trolls.
@@jamesryan1939 you're lying and full of shit bro. Iam a gm technician. 25 years now.
This is a strange beast. On one hand it will be more stable towing that load than a ranger or colorado. It will be more roomy inside. Gets pretty good MPG. Probably still tows a car on a open trailer just fine. The midsize pickups only have parking as a real advantage now. This ticks a lot of boxes for a guy who just has average DIY projects and family life.
That exhaust note makes the ecoboosts sound beefy.
😂😂😂😂👍
Who doesn't love the fart machine engine note of an ecoboost.
Ford for the win🤣💯
Oof
When do you revist the towing of this motor now that it's rating is 9100 lbs???
Great idea!
And for 2022 the torque rating went up to 420, so it'd be interesting to see the difference between this model and the 22
So, my 1998.5 Dodge 2500 Cummins Diesel (5-speed manual) pulls that weight up the Ike all the time, gets almost triple the fuel mileage on the pull, and never breaks 2,000 RPM, still running like new after 300,000 hard miles. I'm glad to see there's been progress over the last 21 years.
Mountain-Adventures and these new crap trucks will be dead before 200,000 miles, Ill stick to 90’s tech all day!
Yeah what about emissions?
I thought so lol thanks for the vid TFL. You rock!
outstanding review professor Andre and Mr. truck.
You guys should add a new back seat test. A child car seat to see how it fits. How easy or hard it is to get in and out.
Love your channel!! Great videos!!
There are a lot of backyard engine guys here. Not many people like me, a certified mechanic with decades of experience. I am going to squash a bug right now!!
A lot of people are complaining that a 4 cylinder engine will not last. Okay..... Let's get past this stigma about 4 cylinder engines.
4 cylinder engines that have failed in the past were anywhere from 1.3L to 2.5L from different manufacturers. They were tiny to mid-sized. They were mostly naturally aspirated. Those that weren't peaked at 230hp. And a little less torque.
As a mechanic I promise I have rebuilt and repaired a lot more V6 and V8 engines than any inline. Whether it be a 4 cylinder or up to an 8 cylinder (inline).
The 2.7L inline is *NOT* a tiny engine. Guys who compare 4 to 8 and *ASSUME* 8 being a bigger number means a bigger engine should go back to school. More pistons doesn't mean bigger engine. There are 4.0L V8's and they are smaller than a 2.5L 4 cylinder in every way.
Take for instance bore and stroke. The 4.8L GM has a B&S of 3.78x3.268" and the 5.3L has a B&S of 3.78x3.622". The 2.7L has a B&S of 3.63 x 4.01". That is a much deeper stroke and makes up for the diameter and lack of 4 additional cylinders. And *BARELY* smaller piston. The 5.3 dimensions are: 28.25x28.75x24.75". The 2.7 dimensions are: 26.2x25.3x25.8".
So the ONLY difference in engineering that will matter on operation is the V8 has 4 more cylinders. However it should be stated that there is a lot more strain and stress when you have two directions of trajectory momentum jerking on the crankshaft, bearings and seals and much more.
One other example of engineering issues that arises:
It over 30 years I have never had to replace the engine mounts on an inline engine. I even worked on vehicles going back to the 50s and having original engine mounts. But I have replaced engine mounts on every V engine I have ever owned. That is a momentum issue. That is a balance issue. That demonstrates perfectly, that more Pistons does not equal better. That is such a redneck under-educated assumption.
Well said. The world record mileage holder is a Volvo P1800 with 3.5 million miles on a 4 cyl. They can be bulletproof.
Exactly this is a great engine they use Inline engines in Big Most Big Rigs as well
They have been using inline engines in a lot of medium and heavy duty trucks and Big rigs all my GMT inline 6 engines have done just as well if not better than my GMT 5.3 5.7 an 6.0 v8s
Awesome! I’d love to see the longer mpg loop towing as well. I was very skeptical about this 4 cylinder but wow, so far it performs.
Justin Coolman until it blows a head gasket at 20k miles while pulling a 500lbs max harbor freight trailer because its a tiny 4 banger in a full size truck
@@tjziegler8823 it is not a tiny 4 cylinder. It is a huge 4 cylinder with a turbo. I don’t know why people don’t understands that. V8s are dying.
You know what is extremely annoying with these new pickup trucks? They don't have auto leveling headlights. So with the LED and Bi-Xenon headlights found in modern trucks - when towing the lights are pointing up to the sky blinding everyone. My Audi and jeep would adjust the beam when the rear was squatting. Wish we could see this kinda tech in pickup trucks. It makes no sense why they dont have it.
My 2019 Tundra has factory LED headlights they don't auto level but I can dial them up or down depending on load With a manual dial in the dash.
I think Nissan Titan has this feature....not sure. But it's a good point. I hate it when someone adds a level kit and forgets to adjust the headlights...
In the daytime that is not a problem is a matter of fact it is a benefit because people see you coming especially if you're towing
I love these guys, I just blind them with my high beams in my little car with proper headlights.
@@a2jettagli Great, then both of you are blinded and can't see! ;)
I've got the 2020 Silverado 1500 LT. Also was talked into the 4 cylinder option. It's able to tow my 26' boat and trailer with ease. To be honest, it's not bad at all. I like V8, but my opinion on 4 cyl has changed completely after this.
You'll be sorry
@@youarerightboss Had it for over a year now. So far not sorry. Getting 30 MPG on the highway. Been a nice ride overall.
Will you guys give the new base 3.3l f150 a try sometime? I would like to see how it stacks up to the Pentastar RAM. I think it would be decent. Thanks for the wonderful videos guys.!
$50,000 for a 4cyl isn’t a big price tag ? 😳
ITSALLGOOD 74 it’s not $50,000 so stop exaggerating and flat out lying! Damn impressive results from a 4 cylinder turbo engine in a full size truck. Over achiever in every way for its size.
It's not just for the engine, don't forget about all the technology needed for idiots that can't drive
Bob Hirdes : @ 5:16 $48k + destination charges ...... taxes , fees , etc .....Why don’t you watch the video in its entirety before you bad mouth fellow viewers....🖕
ITSALLGOOD 74 the MSRP always includes destination you ignorant one. Nobody pays MSRP and you damn well know it have you never bought a new vehicle?
Compare it to anything on the market apples for apples and this truck is a bargain.
Sticker on my truck was 42, I got it for 32, not because I’m a wheeler or dealer, but because they ran it on Auto Trader for 10 off. Thought the deal was pretty much done on the phone, after a 4 hour drive I get there and they start telling me, this and that ain’t available to me because I wasn’t in the service, went to college or a former Ford Employee, I got up put my cap on, started to pull my keys out and thanked them for their time, we’ll end if the story I got my truck for 32, a better negotiator could have done better, but that all I had and I felt it was pretty fair and 32 was all I could afford and couldn’t go any higher. The guy in the next cubicle bought a Raptor and paid 7 grand over sticker, but he looked way more successful and probably had way way more money and was looking at a truck that was nearly, sticker price twice my lowly STX 4wd V6 Crew.
After watching the video with the engineer and seeing just how well it's built, I think this will prove to be a hell of a good engine. I hope it finds it's way into crossovers, tahoes and Colorados. I sincerely hope it isn't killed by low sales in $50-60k full size pickups with mid size tow ratings.
Thanks and that was uphill. I am scared of turbos, so keep the videos coming.
Ok, I just drove the V-8 and 4 banger back to back today. The V-8 was an extended cab and the 4 cylinder was a crew cab. I was pleasantly surprised at the 4 cylinder truck. It felt very peppy and nimble. The V-8 truck felt “lumbering” and slow to get moving. And the thought of 19 MPG in the city is pretty appealing. Personally, I’m not quite throwing it out yet. I’d consider since I won’t be towing anything major. I’ve already owned a 33 foot travel trailer with an F250 PowerStroke and I’m done with that stuff. If anything, might need to tow a 5k cargo trailer. Anymore thank that, get someone else to tow it.
TFL- you guys need to re-do this with the upgraded HO 2.7
I've been waiting to see this one. Thanks for sharing. I don't know that I'd want to be constantly boosting that poor engine all the way to the top. I think the 4-cyl is a grocery getter option for the guy who only hauls groceries and maybe some drywall from home depot on occasion or his bass boat to the lake on the weekends.. It did good pulling near it's max rated weight but the bigger engines can pull a lot more weight. I don't think I'd give up my 5.3L just yet. Especially since it only got 3.7 MPG going up that hill. If you pull car trailers or campers you'll want at least a 5.3L. Also $47,xxx for a four cylinder truck is insane. I know it was an LT package but still. Who buy's these things brand new to lose their ass on depreciation? I can see a lot of these being 2-3 year leases (which is also financially dumb) to keep the payments lower.
I'm really interested in the I6 dmax. Can't wait for you guys to get your hands on one
I keep my trucks a long time. My current Silverado with a 5.3L V8 has about 170,000 miles and is going strong. At 70 mph, it is turning just a bit over 2,000 rpm. I would be a little worried that with an engine literally making twice as many revolutions to cover the same distance at the same speed, 200.000 or 300,000 miles would not be in the cards. It will be interesting to see how this impressive engine holds up in the long haul.
Really doubt your truck can tow 6700lb up to the Eisenhower tunnel at 12k elevation and turn 2000 rpm at 70 mph. It would be 4,000rpm just like this truck.
@@777jonesbingo! Probably under 2000 on the 2.7 unladen
Love the vids
That was actually quite impressive. It is amazing how far this engine technology has come. This thing has more horsepower and torque than my naturally aspirated 5.8L, with 4 less cylinders. Truly amazing the difference in tech, and in power.
And yet a 350, 5.8 wouldnt struggle going up that hill at nearly max RPM, he was ragging that piece of shit the whole way.
AzureMckay the truck isnt meant for towing what do you guys not get about this
If the components are tough enough, your computers fast enough, and your design clever enough, you can maximize the displacement of any engine and make it perform much more like a larger one. The question is, how long will it last as 47k is a heck of a lot of money. I doubt these trucks would be a good investment for the average buyer. They're just asking too much from a power plant that is bound to have weak spots while putting a ton of pressure on them. Also no secret Government Motors has been seriously dropping the ball on quality since at least 2006-7.
5.8, so I am guessing you’re driving a early to mid 90s F150 with the 351. I am a Chevy guy, but it won’t take much work or money to exceed 310hp in that 351… and it’ll run much longer than that 4 cylinder.
This is true. It wouldn't take too much.
If we want to talk Chevies though, we had an 88 IROC-Z with the 5.7TPI, and just adding a freer-flowing exhaust gave it a very noticeable increase in power. Putting in a Corvette chip also gave it some additional "oomph," and this is all without getting inside the engine at all. I wish we had taken it to a track to get times before and after those mods, however that never happened.
All this to say, the 350 was all too happy to receive power upgrades, and those upgrades, in my personal experience, worked quite well in making noticeable differences in power. It's a shame the stuff they're making now is junk in comparison to pre 2007-ish.
Just received mine, 25 mph on hwy, crew cab standard box with nitto grapplers exo tires!! Love it, way better then my V8 5.3L already..Good review! You guys convinced me and I don't regret.. Hopefully in the futur GMC increases the towing to compete against ford cause this truck can take it!!
My work truck is a f150 with the 2.7 ecoboost and it rocks ! it's a regular cab long bed xl but .. im very happy with these small displacement engines, she tows, holds a load and is comfortable. It's actually rated to tow more than my 94 12v cummins witch is impressive soo ... I guess what I'm saying is these small displacement turbo engines rock !
Love your videos man
Thanks
I’m very interested as the 2.7 specs out very close to the 5.3 in my 2013. Seems like a very underrated engine from GM and could be an alternative to my 2013 if only it had a better tow rating.
I traded my 2014 5.3 and love my 2022 turbo 2.7!!!!!! Best move I’ve made
New ones are rated to tow more. The videos seem to prove they can do it quite well. Long term reliability is still going to be unknown as it’s a new engine. People saying they have no problems after 50k miles is fine but 50k miles is still not exactly long term.
I have to say I was disappointed that work decided to switch from Express 6.0 gold old v8 to Ram promaster 3.6 v6 but I'm pleasantly surprised with the performance and definitely fuel economy once I drop off the load
I have a suggestion for your Max Towing test: do it during the summer, when you have the stress of the heat on the vehicle as well.
Should do these test in summer heat.
Well, that is what all the mfgs do on the Davis Dam run here on the CA/AZ boarder. SAE J2807. It IS the true test.
exactly wait till u try and tow with ac on . u will b in trouble.
That cold weather really helps intake temperatures. That same loop at 90 degrees would be significantly slower with the turbo. I'd be surprised if it had enough intercooler and radiator to pull Ike Gauntlet on a hot day at 8 minutes. The 6.2 on the other hand wont mind the summer.
Probably wouldn't make it. You'd end up in limp mode because the engine is overheating.
@@darens440 exactly and with the ac on i would n want to imagine how slow it would b
So 4 years ago the 2.7 F150 did it in 7.38 and it towed 7200lbs. The GM didn't do bad ,but in 4 years it hasn't done better than it's closest competitor. The Ecoboost also got 4.3 mpg.
Ford has 2 more cylinders and one more hairdryer to help out
@@anthonywebber2211 I get that. I was just hoping for bigger things from this engine. I'm still not quite sure what it competes against. I'm not even sure why it exists.
@@RobertWilliams-ox4hz, Ford also weighs less, cause it's all Aluminum, only hood doors and tailgate are Aluminum on GM
This going to sell like hot cakes for farm and construction site use where running around and hauling lower weights and people is the main purpose. It gets the promised MPGs to keep operating costs lower. I think the other engines and 2500s will get dropped in for towing horse trailers and larger loads.
@@RobertWilliams-ox4hz, for people who want the room of a full size, but doesn't tow much or at all
Thanks so much needed a good video like this to make a choice.
I love what you do guys and I have been following you for ages but I can’t stand the fact that nobody ever thinks about using the right lane! I can’t understand why nobody uses it in the US! I lived there for a long time and geez it drives me nuts hahah! Love you guys sorry for my little rant!
Talk to any Ford dealership mechanic about what they would buy Ecoboost or non turbo V8 99% will buy the V8 for their personal truck should tell you something about small turbocharged engines working at max capacity at all times
Only in america you see tiny backwood peckerwoods screaming "it needs to be a v8"
But that's just it: you're not towing all the time, but you can if must. And yet getting almost CUV like gas mileage in commuting makes it a dream machine. Also helps having supercharging in thin air like this, but that's what mountains are about.
@@kingelvis7035 But if you talk to those mechanics most of them will tell you that most of the non V8 trucks spend more time in the shop with expensive repairs not always covered by warranty. Someday that tech may mature to the point where its reliable but it is not there yet.
That's also the reason why Toyota still puts a 2.0 NA in the Corolla while most of its' competition's gone to a 1.5T. Turbos belong in performance cars and with diesels, otherwise they're just not worth it.
Do it once a week for 3 years, I'd like to see the longevity of the turbo 4 cylinder and that transmission combination.
"Where is it? All I see is plastic." 🤣😂🤣
I'm a fan of "The little engine that could". Perfect for commuting and has the capability to pull a load when you need it.
That's what she said😂
Same price for a ram ecodiesel. 4wd model with the quad cab gets 27-30 highway in my personal experience. Tows better too.
Not sure bud, tows better hmm..
Yeah !!! If you can keep it out of the shop!!
That little turbo gonna wine out of commission LMFAO
I'd be interested in seeing this again in the unedited version of the video!
My dad used to race Rangers off-road with 2.3 engines. They worked just fine. The reason I am concerned for that turbo 2.7 is that it, well, is a modern fuel-saving engine.
That lil engine will go KaBoom 💥just out of warranty period!
Your right as a Chevy guy I will never buy a 1st Gen GM engine as I got a 16 Cruze with the new gen 1.4 having all 4 pistons replaced right at 55k
This is gonna be hilarious to watch.... I never thought I'd see the day when an automaker was serious about having a big ol' 4 cylinder under the hood of a fullsize truck.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: you're correct. I've owned vehicle's for all manufacturers and Ford is the worst when it comes to honoring their warranty. They literary treat you like you're asking for a handout.
My ecoboost 3.5 popped at 60,080.6 miles aka 80.6 miles passed power train 👎🏻
Of course it will, its a GM product
No thanks, I want the v8 no turbo. The 4 banger works its ass off to move that big truck and wont last 100k miles. The 5.3 or 6.2 doesn't even strain
Try pulling a 3 horse steel trailer with that up a steep grade. Not. Going. To. Happen. That engine will wear out in short order.
J Hill it’s not intended for heavy towing. It’s made fior economy. It is a base engine after all
@@haydenmoore3421 40g for a gas saver..if you can't afford the gas you can't afford the truck. This may get decent mpg on highway going down hill with a tail wind but I'm betting it's not much better than the 5.3. Nobody is going to buy a truck for mpg. Maybe a few city yuppies that want to look like a man while driving a woman truck
jeremy p whatever you say man
@@wickedmainah950 those 5.3 get pretty good aswell.
My work truck has this engine. I didn't realize it at first. I thought it was a V8 with the way it pulls. Was really surprised when I popped the hood to see 2.7 liter TURBO. Now I know why it makes that sound.
Love it.
I just bought this truck and am amazed at the ease of how it drive around at 70 mph at 1500 rpm and I have yet to hit the highway driving and I`m getting 18.5 mpg. and boy, does it have some get up and go off the line!
Trucks are too expensive now.
MyassesDragon it is adjusted for inflation.
You guys do a great job with this video but, when you talk about suspension squat, you should maybe consider that you're using an almost 7k lb trailer with no weight distribution bars which most people would use with a trailer of this size.
What’s impressive is that this engine can direct more coolant or less coolant to different areas of the engine. If it needs more heat to be efficient or less heat for being taxed.
This is not a typical 4 cylinder, it is basically a diesel/gas hybrid design! The specs on this thing is awesome! The bottom of the engine is built heavy duty like a diesel, with huge pistons. It just has spark plugs and runs on gas! That’s why it puts up the hp/torque numbers it does. So turbocharging it like a diesel isn’t a problem either! That’s why at idle it has a diesel sound!
I just purchased a 2022 with the 2.7L turbo high output and I actually like the acceleration, the sound of the engine and the overall ride and truck in general. I'm interested to see how it's going to do towing. My wife, son and I ride ATVs and I have a 14' single axle trailer and I'll be putting 2 Polaris 450 size on the trailer and a 150 Arctic Cat in the bed. I feel like it'll pull it fine but we will see. My old 2001 5.3L used to pull a 16' car trailer with 3 big ATVs like a champ.
310 hp and not even a 7000 pound tow rating? Before ford switched to the ecoboost they had that 5.4 v8 making the same but still had an 11,300 max tow rating with that engine. I can't help but feel like they're only limiting the tow rating with this engine because it simply isn't going to last if it's being worked. That engine is crazy impressive but I'd be very concerned about longevity if I owned one.
SAE j2807 determines tow rating.. It's a series of tests to determine gcwr
ARTURO lol 5.4 triton and beast shouldn’t be in the same sentence.
Well it is a light duty half ton aimed at Economy not big towing numbers. Anyone Doing continuous heavy Towing would not be purchasing this truck unless they are stupid. That’s why they have plenty of other options for that.
@@theaveragejoestinkeringand4407 if you'd driven one they are far better at towing than the LS because they are screamers compared to the triton. We towed a 10k dump loaded with roof trash in a 2001 2wd Expedition 5.4 these had the 2 valve which peak torque was at 2500 rpm very low for a Naturally aspirated engine.
HERPY DERPEDY Half of our fleet was 5.4 Tritons at work and yes they will scream and after about 80,000 miles of it they start spitting out spark plugs. They have to scream to get it done Not just one vehicle all of them. The LS engines we have now chug along and get two more miles per gallon doing the same work. Knock on wood We haven’t replaced an LS engine yet or had any engine problems and we have some over 300,000 miles. That’s the best service we’ve gotten out of any vehicles they ever had since 1974. They’ve definitely got something going for them. I’ve drove enough Triton V8 and that’s the very reason I don’t want any more of them. Put over 200,000 on my last one.
How long will the engine last towing at 5000+ rpm?
It was actually turning 4000rpm maintaining 60 up a hill. Turbos allow lower rpm, although it's true cylinder pressure is greater, even considering the lower rpms than Nat asp engines.
Most manufacturers run tests on their engines by running them at redline for months at a time
@@2222012 ....with how much load?
Maynard Reed that’s the same thought I had
No one who tows a lot is buying this engine. The 4cyl is meant for people who haul a gallon of milk on a regular basis, a sheet of plywood occasionally, and tow a trailer twice a year.
I currently have a 2020 Silverado LT with the 5.3, it’s worth $10k more than I owe so I was contemplating trading it in toward a 2023 with the 2.7 turbo.
After watching this, I’m all set with driving around at 4500 rpms trying to haul my dirt bike trailer up a hill. I’ll stick with my 2020 and the 5.3 for now.
The refreshed 2.7L has more horsepower and torque now. It’s at 310hp/430tq. More than the 5.3 now.
I have the 2020 4 cylinder Silverado. All I see is people talking trash about it and I’m just saying that I love it. Rides smooth, has good power, and it looks awesome. Just don’t understand why everyone is hating on it when it isn’t a bad vehicle
How’s it holding up? I’m thinking of getting one used
@@londeee141 She’s still purring like she should be. Not a single problem at all
Thank you fast lane truck!!!
You're welcome
Just bought a 2020 crew cab 4 cylinder and couldn’t believe how it ran. I’m the kinda guy that just uses the bed a few times a year and this motor was for me.
The Smaller engines have become more efficient offering as much power as you'll ever need with decent mileage for a Full-Size Truck 'Case in point, 'Ford F150 V6 Eco Power, My neighbor just bought One- it Flys... with Power to spare W/18-20 mpg Avg-Hwy & City
Also impressed. But the sound though 🤠
Cool Video!! What are the flashing lights under the headlights? Hazard lights?
I'd like to see you guys tow rvs with these trucks. They would handle alot different with closed or enclosed utility trailers. Nice truck! but I would not pay that much haha. Just got a 2016 GMC 2500 HD SLE 4x4 Z71 for less than that! Would love to try it though! Great videos like always!
If you’re towing a heavy rv, a 1/2 ton truck isn’t what you need. Too many accidents where the trailer overpowered the truck. The weight of the truck becomes important when you’re pulling a trailer that heavy. A 7000 lb heavy duty truck vs a 5000 lb 1/2 ton truck gives you more stability.
Cool stuff.my question is whats better? The 4.3 v6 or the 4 cylinder ? On towing and fuel economie. You should do a test whit all the v6 n/a. Some people need space over the towing capacities. Like me!! Continue your good stuff guys.
4.3L Maximum Tow rate is 8100lbs it's fuel economy 17/20.
The 2.7L Maximum Tow rate 7200lbs Fuel economy is 20/24.
The 5.3L with AFM Max Towing is 11100lbs and Fuel economy is 17/20
The 5.3L with DFM Max Towing is 11600lbs and Fuel economy is 19/23
The 6.2L Maximum Tow is 12200lbs and Fuel economy is 16/21.
Thx
@@kaventremblay2801 course the numbers do change based on Cab Configuration and 4x4. But the 4.3L is better for towing. The 2.7L is better for driving. But the 5.3L with the DFM system is really what you wanna get if you want fuel economy and towing.
It's weird having a truck that sounds like a geo metro
I keep watching these Sliverado 4 cylinder videos but I really want is a bare bones Silverado WT Single Cab 8 ft bed with the 6.2 . They just don't make it
I just bought the 2023 trail boss custom with this motor well it's 9200 tow now. But 99%of people don't tow much I do maybe 2 times a month. An small 3500 lb camper an 16 foot flat deck trailer hauling cabinets. So we see how she does. But daily driving so far has been great
That engine belongs in the colorado/canyon. The gripe I always hear, and that I have myself, about the mid-sized trucks is that the power is always just adequate.
I supercharged my 3.6. 438hp is more than adiquate. LOL
Get the 2.8 diesel and solves that issue. Put a programmer on it. 36 mpg hwy and will pull7700 lbs with ease
Shame GM getting rid of this engine
I really never thought I would say this buuuut.. I'm really warming up to the looks of the new Chevy's and GMC's. The more I see them driving around, the better they look.
Your not the only one brother.
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I'm just watching this video now because I was just reading about the 2022 L3B. However impressed they ate with it then, it now has 410 ft lb torque. I wonder how they'd feel about the updated version?
it never ceases to amaze me that we have all kinds of cars and suvs but the trucks they don't strive to be the more sporty truck, or the most economical, or get the best gas milage or any originality. they're like Neighbors that live on the same street with the same home, and when they see one of their neighbors clip their hedges or put in a pool they follow~
full size trucks should not be running boosted 4cyls.
coelho sports agree. Looks like this crap is here to stay though.
But as long as they didn't get rid of the V8 options then it's ok.
People said the same thing about turbo v6s when ford came out with the ecoboost, 8 years later 75% of f150's sold are v6 with the ecoboost engines accounting for 65% and the v8 only 25%.
Ford runs a V6 with twin Turbo's that the same size 2.7 litre in their F150.
well, there were timing chain, blue smoke (pcv related), carbon buildup, intercooler and other issues ford addressed with replacement parts and adding port injector in the second gen, but we are only now reaching the age where we can see what the life expectancy of these is going to look like. i think 2011 was the first model year the 3.5 was sold in the f-150. with the ecoboost, you basically get eco or you get boost, one or the other, similar to what is shown in this video. as long as you are religious with oil changes we are seeing they have the potential to be long term motors, but now is when we are really going to see. we would expect a 2011 v8 to have lots of life left. there have been recalls and engine failures of the smaller ecoboosts, and there have been some blown f-150's as well but not sure if it's fair to say the boost is a longevity problem yet. the jury is still out. boosts present unique challenges for engines.
I love your reviews, but 3.7 miles per gallon and 6700 lbs I’ll keep my Cummins that was within about $4000 the Sam price. ( 2017 close out sale- with leather and 4wd) . Keep up the great work, I will keep watching.
Since Chevy upped the torque on the 2.7 turbo we are really looking at it for us. We tow a toy hauler loaded about 6800 lbs about 10 times through nice weather (mainly flat no mountains). Rest of the time it would be in town driving. Since you have actually towed with it we wondered if you thought it would do the job?
I think you would be fine myself!
Brand new it may do well but it will be no surprise that won't last towing. I have an 07 5.3L and have towed a 30' camper, enclosed trailer like the one you are but steel, and my pontoon.
The camper was really work for it even new. Haven't towed camper for years now as it is permanent on a spot, but it feels it going up hill in the blue ridge pulling my 20' pontoon.
I got the truck new, and now have 65k on it in Dec 2022.
In 1991 the tbi 350 put out 210 hp and 250 ft lb. This 4cyl turbo puts out 310 hp and 348 ft lb. That is pretty impressive.
I think this little engine in an older k5 would be real hoot and fun at the car shows.
The GMC syclone only made 280/350, and the mpg was 13c/16h. It was a tiny truck. It's to soon to see reliability. The small displacement turbo are a gamble in consumer acceptance. I'm sure GM did thier homework
27Zangle I'd like to see one in a tastefully bagged C10 street rod
The TBI 350 could crank out its power with the cheapest and lowest octane fuel at the pump. What about the Turbo 4 Cylinder?
TheCamaro5 - this guy is impressed wait until we tell him what a Ford barra or the ecoboost can do
I think a single cab with a straight 6 version of this engine would be realy cool.
pumping out this much power and working it like that will be interesting to see how long this will last
When is a 2018-2019 Ford F-150 2.7L doing the IKE? be nice for a comparison.
How much would it have cost GM to add two more cylinders, make a balanced 6, and lose the (4 cyl) counter balance shaft?
Not much?
Viking Child ill take an I6 over a V6
$42K for a base 1/2 ton vs $24K for a Ranger with 700 more lbs towing capacity. Yeah, that's a helluva deal.
Yeah but it's a Ford
Love the turbo sound
I wonder what the air temperature/density was on the runs for the other trucks?
Lol I love how people sh!t on this little base engine, it actually performs well for what it is IMO and I bet this engines durability is going to be a lot better then most people think.
pretty impressed
@ The Fast Lane Truck Like the old saying says " There is no replacement for displacement " !
The test is impressive. With the motor rpm. running so hard how long will it hold up?