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- In the early years, the Minnesota Vikings were like many new franchises of the time: dysfunctional, bad at football, and often intoxicated. And then a former NBA champion came back home to Minnesota and changed the identity of this franchise forever.
This is the first episode of Dorktown’s seven-part docuseries, The History of the Minnesota Vikings.
Release schedule:
Episode 2 (1970-1974) - Tuesday, August 8th
Episode 3 (1974-1979) - Tuesday, August 15th
Episode 4 (1980s) - Tuesday, August 22nd
Episode 5 (1990s) - Tuesday, August 29th
Episode 6 (2000s) - Tuesday, September 5th
Episode 7 (2010s-2020s) - Friday, September 8th
Written and directed by Jon Bois
Written and produced by Alex Rubenstein
Rights specialist Lindley Sico
Secret Base executive producers Will Buikema and Jon Bois
Known goofs:
• During the 1968 playoff game vs. the Colts, the Joe Kapp fumble and resulting scoop and score is plotted about 20 yards off from where it actually was.
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Excited to see y'all next week. In case you didn't click the description and were curious, here's the release schedule. The first one will be a premiere (as you can tell) then from there we'll upload them as normal, but maybe swing another premiere for the finale if you're feeling it.
Episode 1 (1960s) - Tuesday, August 1st
Episode 2 (1970-1974) - Tuesday, August 8th
Episode 3 (1974-1979) - Tuesday, August 15th
Episode 4 (1980s) - Tuesday, August 22nd
Episode 5 (1990s) - Tuesday, August 29th
Episode 6 (2000s) - Tuesday, September 5th
Episode 7 (2010s-2020s) - Friday, September 8th
Thank-you SO much for doing them on my day off - pretty-sure I can drink 8 beer per episode :)
Next Tuesday's going to be fun. I'm going to miss the premiere (it's going to be airing just as I get off work, and I have an hour commute home), but I'll watch it when I get there.
I've got September 8th off (annual personal holiday for reasons too boring to explain here), so a premiere on that day would be awesome.
Looking forward to the series. Vikings have a fascinating history to them
A bit of a Vikings related hot take I have:
The 1969 Vikings (who should be mentioned at the end of this episode if it covers all ten seasons of the 60’s) get my vote for one of the most underrated, or at minimum overlooked teams in NFL history.
On one hand if you think in terms of quarterbacks, this team probably won’t stand out to you. The late Joe Kapp, who only played four seasons is one of the least accomplished quarterbacks to start a Super Bowl (though he played solidly in 69 itself).
And this team gets overlooked I feel, not just because it didn’t win a Super Bowl, but also because we are so far removed from it, and because the teams in the mid 70’s with Fran Tarkenton, and the 1998 team also exist and are more recent in people’s minds.
But the facts remain, this team had one of the best raw point differentials there is, and even metrics that adjust for strengths of schedule will find the 69 Vikings to have played the best regular season that year, and likely by a substantial margin.
They are one of the few teams to send four defensive linemen to the pro bowl in the same season, they had nine pro bowlers total, along with eight players who were named first or second team all pro in the NFL side by the associated press.
Their offense scored the most points in either the NFL or AFL, and the defense allowed the fewest as well I believe (less than ten points per game allowed at that). So they were on top on both sides of the ball, which doesn’t happen very often.
If not for the 1977 Falcons, the 1969 Vikings defense would have allowed the fewest points in a 14 game season.
If you go by the talent they had at the time, then I could see why the 69 Vikings wouldn’t stand out to you as much as some, but when people talk about the best teams in the history of the Vikings, and the best teams to not win a Super Bowl, I don’t see this one brought up much, but they deserve mention in my opinion, and for that, I find them underrated.
There better be week 17 of the 2003 in this series. Also you guys do great work
As a Vikings fan, I am so excited to relive 60 years of heartbreak
As a Browns fan, I'm morbidly comparing this to how my "Life in Hell" video would be expanded. That Browns video multiplied by the in-depth levels of the Cavs history would be a real rabbit hole.
@@johnstebbins24A Browns series would be dope. I'd also really love to hear about the 80s Browns tbh
👍
You had sooo much success; ask cardinals fans, and teams that rarely went to or won playoff games. Detroit and cleveland and miami and nyj. Raiders since 03. sucking instead of mattering at ALL
60 years of being kinda ok feels very Minnesota though.
This is going to be the greatest thing in the history of mankind.
Absolutely agreed!
Can’t wait till they get to Part 6 to the 2003 Vikings
Missing the draft pick (twice)
6-0 to collapse and miss the playoffs entirely
They gonna do a huge breakdown on Vikings vs Cardinals leading up to you know what
@@JWex-jy7skThat radio call by Paul Allen of the Nate Poole touchdown is hilarious.
Poole on a side note, only scored one other touchdown in his NFL career.
History of **The Vikings
The discovery of the western hemisphere?
Man landing on the moon?
They all take a backseat to Dorktown.
"The Vikings couldn't stop shooting themselves in the foot when it mattered the most."
Get ready for that to be something of a recurring theme.
The fact that Norm van Brocklin has his own upbeat, chipper musical theme in this series makes me so happy
95% of my knowledge of NFL comes from Dorktown and yet when van Brocklin's name appeared on screen I audibly said "who else could it have been?"
Shame we’ll have to wait for them to cover the eagles or Rams to hear it again
I too find the Norm Van Brocklin theme music amusing.
Does anyone happen to have a full version of it, presuming it is stock music? I genuinely like it a lot.
Taste for Living is what it's called@@FocusSight
There is something so fascinating with Jon’s direction. From Captain Ahab, The Bob Emergency, to the Seattle Mariners. The fragile emotion and pain that Jon and Alex convey is immersive. I’ve been filled with joy and pain because of this videos. I wanna be a sportwriter because of these guys, kudos gentleman!
And that makes the Vikings a perfect subject for them to dive into
Dude, the Bob Emergency was dope!
@@Nezuko_Kamado403 yeah the Bob emergency might be genuinely the most touching and breathtaking documentary ever made. I say this a lot but I feel in a couple decades or so, Boisian style documentaries will be studied academically. Because everyone else eon CZcams ends up doing Boisian style documentaries. He's had such a gigantic impact on the history of Internet video content, that no history of the Internet can be complete without talking in depth about him. Genuinely.
Even if Dorktown videos don't get like 100 million views or anything, he's basically the Velvet Underground of Internet documentary/video essay making. In that everyone who watches his videos, becomes a video maker (or wants to). Just like not many people ever listened to the Velvet Underground, but everyone who did, started their own band, and that way they had a monumental impact on the history of music. Bois is that, but for documentaries.
You'll notice it if you watch enough good CZcams channels. They all in one way or another are influenced by him. They all say he's a big inspiration for them.
One day Jon Bois will hopefully be winning Oscars and making big studio documentaries with the budget and influence to actually interview these players he talks about. But nothing will ever match the DIY aspect of him making videos with Google maps and Google earth.
@@duffman18dude you need to chill. You are drastically overstating the impact of these videos. To the point where it's more than a little unhinged
I’ve cried to more Job bois videos than feature length films
I’m embarrassingly excited for this. Jon and the fellas could make a four part series about Donovan McNabb’s bowel movements and I’d be sitting on the edge of my seat the entire time.
Nah bro everything about a dorktown series makes the enjoyment and excitement worth it the music, the philosophy the emotion this man writes one hell of a story im always down to hear jon tell me about a team with a deep rich history I never really knew about and I didnt even like baseball much till i found this channel
@@kNaild jon is single-handedly responsible for me getting back into baseball, I’m positive we aren’t alone. He’s truly a god of CZcams.
@@Taylose6 also his pretty good series saves my boredom
So you'd be assuming the same position as McNabb, then, as a guinea pig in the new age of documentaries that bring you right into the action
One of those movements occurred all over the Metrodome turf in 2011
I looked Alan Page up because of this video and found that in addition to the gridiron feats Jon and Alex describe, in the dwindling years of his football career, Page went to law school - yes, while still a professional football player - and eventually became a Minnesota Supreme Court Justice as well as spending decades of his life backing campaigns to support childhood literacy. There goes a man who has not just worked incredibly hard, but made far-wiser-than-average choices about the goals which get the benefit of his work.
If you watch pages video in the nfls old top 100 players of all time from 2010 there's a cool story that a reporter talks about wearing a makeshift page jersey as a kid. When the reporter told him about it as an adult page sent him an autographed jersey even though he doesn't have much football mementos in his law office post career.
Genuinely an American Hero
Overall great human
He's a damned good supreme court justice too, also has an elementary school named after him that I live less than 10 blocks away from
He also attends the Twin Cities marathon every year and cheers on runners while playing the Sousaphone. LITERAL KING.
The Bud Grant connection with the train horn and the Viking horn is SO FUCKING COOL
This was beautiful. The part where Bud Grant got him and his friend to safety at the beginning made me shed a tear a bit. Incredible work!
The way they tie the horn of the Vikings and the horn of the train together is such great storytelling
@@WilcoRoZ Yep, Even the jump to the Colts game last year made the Z axis narrative tie together nicely.
He's a CFL legend, it was cool to learn more about him.
Shed. Haha
A Insurmountable Matt Ryan blown lead and Norm Van Brocklin coached team, a perfect sequel
You're stupid if you think Ryan himself blew that
How is that blamed on one person?
Oh, yeah. Marketing of the cult of the qb position.
@wankertanker1813 I never blamed him, he's just on both teams...
@@sighduck9789 the falcons blown lead in sb vs pats. How is that Matt Ryan's fault?
@@wankertanker1813it's... not. he was just relevant to both stories.
I'm a gigantic Detroit Lions fan, but my grandpa was a die-hard Minnesota Vikings fan. Whenever they would play each other we would always watch the game at his house with our whole family. It was the highlight of the season, tons of food and smack talk alike😂. He passed away last year after a battle with Alzheimers and Colon cancer. He was one of my best friends. I have a small piece of my heart that is purple now💜 I'm so glad I get to watch this and think of him, he would have loved it.
Thanks John and Alex for making brilliant stuff, and making me think of great memories with my grandpa
So sorry for your loss. Glad to hear this video could bring you some happiness.
I lost my father to cancer two years ago and he bled purple to the end. I carry on the tradition with my son adorned in my dad's hand me down Anthony Barr jersey. It was a present from my mom a few years before he passed. He would have loved this series as well. Much love to you and your family, Id have loved to enjoy a beer with your grandpa
May your father rest in peace ❤
Fun fact about Joe Kapp, after his NFL career he became the head coach at Cal, and his first season as head coach ended with the famous "Stanford Band" play
Elsewhere in this documentary you hear Jon talk about how most of the rest of the world takes a look at American football and says "nah, we're good". I think that one play contained so much cosmic stupidity (albeit, AWESOME stupidity) that it singlehandedly repulses the rest of the world, at least to some extent.
Coach Kapp was a bit eccentric but in a fun way. He called his special teams the "special forces". His motto was to play 100% for 60 minutes and came up (or at least made popular) the quote "the bear will not die; the bear will not quit".
During one of his seasons he promised his team he wouldn't drink any rum until Cal won the Rose Bowl. Sadly he just passed away without Cal ever having won it. They most have traded all the luck and good fortune in the world in doing the "The Play" for 30+ years of irrelevancy.
I knew George Halas was one of the Packers' biggest supporters, practically keeping them alive at one stage before the Lombardi era began. Had no idea that he lobbied for the Vikes, too. What a legend. On another note, that Bud Grant intro was perfection. I was in tears, at that point.
As a bears fan, there’s something so right about us basically creating our rivals and then getting our asses kicked by them for the next 50 years
@@pjcunningham6869 But as a Bears fan, you can take credit for more of the league being in existence than Paul Brown could. True greatness
I just realized that this is an hour long video about the 1960s vikings, and there was not one mention of a fumble recovery made by Jim Marshall against the 49ers in 1964. Thank you all, so much.
To be honest, I actually was waiting for a mention of the Wrong Way Run.
It can only be seen as funny because of it being just a regular season game that we still won on another Marshall fumble.
It probably might come up in Part 2 as this was just the introduction to the Purple People Eaters.
The wrong way run was of such little importance, I'm not at all surprised it was left out.
OH COME ON
@@notpsicoh2107lmaoo
That would come in the next episode
I knew Tarkenton was a badass and way ahead of his time, but I didn't know how much he made HOF lineman look like kids on the field. I have developed a huge respect for the man after that sequence where he bought 12 extra seconds...straight monster
I'm surprised how much he looks like a modern qb. I didn't even know you were allowed to scramble like that back then, I thought if you tried that they just shot ya.
@@SuperDogCoinNo rules stopped you from doing it, but most game plan’s didn’t involve it, and thus most quarterbacks were regularly pocket passing.
Tarkenton is legit one of the best NFL players ever. It's crazy how forgotten he is. If he stuck in Minnesota with Bud Grant they would've been the original Tom Brady/Bill Belichick partnership.
@@QwertyCaesarNot to mention, Kapp was ok, but if they made their first Super Bowl without him, then maybe they could have won one with him.
@@QwertyCaesarjust wait til next episode
The first 6 minutes and 15 seconds is all I need to confirm that I'll be viewing the entire series. Awesome prologue to what should be an epic journey.
Hey, I wonder why the win-loss line is getting taller...
"The Z axis is how long the team has gone without a Super Bowl win."
Oh no, it's a surprise tool that will help us later.
I wish the NFL payed you guys to make one for every team. I get goosebumps everytime I see an episode of this series.
It would be ruined. These are made out of a labor of love. And it seems they take about 4-6 months to make just one the right way. The jon bois alex rubenstein way
The reason these are so good is that they're passion projects. Not every team has a history that lends itself to Jon and Alex's documentary style and not every team is interesting enough to get this level of passion
@@user-po2lu3dv1t yupp. works well for the teams that have never made it to the mountaintop
Eh idk I think the Bucs could potentially have a narrative arc for one of these series. I’d imagine it would look something like the Mariners series, with goofy shenanigans in the beginning as they were largely inept (John McKay’s execution quote comes to mind.) This would transition to the very slow climb that culminated in their ‘02 Super Bowl win. I’ll be honest, I’m not entirely sure what to make of the rest of the 2000’s, as they have been largely forgettable, but that’s what I would’ve said about the Mariners as well. Maybe it’s not enough for a series but I think there’s something there.
@@carterf3585Moreover, going over the history of a more successful team might be a bit redundant for them because the mainstream of the sports media would’ve probably done so at length already.
That’s probably part of why we see them do certainly teams and not others.
I have a theory about this series. In this episode Jon mentions that the word 'myth' is going to be heard a lot and while he's talking in the context of historical Viking myth there and probably will again in episodes to come, that's not really the myth he's driving at. The real myth, the one that's directly connected to the team and the one all Viking's fans believe, is that the team is 'cursed to lose'. He's talking about the myth of the Minnesota Vikings themselves.
We know intellectually that this isn't the case. Maybe how a football team preforms in one particular year has some bearing on how it will perform the very next year to some extent, but a missed field goal in '98 or an interception in '09 has no real standing on how a team performs in 2023 when no player taking the field was even around for the previous events. There's nothing about the Vikings larger history that says their failures are preordained. Any given season could be the moment they have a sudden '01 Patriots or '09 Saints style explosion rattling off stupid amounts of wins and winning the Superbowl out of nowhere.
Like historical Viking myths or the one about the rune stone they start the series off with here, there's not a lot of factual accuracy to it. And yet... And yet there's something innately human about perceiving it that way. There's something tantalizing about the vision that things happen for a reason beyond simple chaos, even in something as meaningless as sports.
Tied for the most Superbowl losses, haven't been in a Superbowl in almost 50 years, and whenever this team starts to look like they can actually do it, they collapse. It's like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football that Lucy is holding. Gary Anderson's legendary miss didn't lose the game on its own, but it is symbolic for the rest of the team also playing out-of-character. Catch-us-if-you-can offense stalls out and lose in OT. Dante Culpepper and Moss put the league on notice, promising an exciting showdown against the Giants for the NFC Championship. The Giants score in 4 plays, and the Vikings fumble the kick return leading to the Giants scoring the next play; down 14-0 before the offense has even stepped onto the field. When they do get to play, it's downright atrocious: Punt, Interception, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, End of Half, Fumble, Interception, Punt, Interception. Infamous 41-donut. The Bountygate screwjob in '09, where it takes legendary quarterback and poor excuse for a human being Brett Favre throwing across his body for the Vikings' 5th turnover of that game to let the Saints escape into OT, where multiple blown officiating calls let the Saints extend their drive to score without ever letting the Vikings touch the ball. The Minneapolis Miracle in another back-and-forth with New Orleans gives the Vikings a sniff of hosting a Superbowl in their own house, if they can only beat a strong, but beatable looking Eagles team in Philly. The Vikings score on their opening drive and force the Eagles to punt on theirs. Then...Case Keenum throws an interception, the Eagles end up on the board, and proceed to route the Vikings; stifling our offense completely and moving the ball downfield at-will: 38-7. In 2022, a team that has won every single game that came down to a single score faces off against a team it narrowly survived just a few weeks prior, and manages to lose their first single score game of the season in the wildcard round, where their run ends.
It's hard as a fan year-in-year-out to not see the patterns and trends. When you zoom out, like this documentary does, it becomes even more bizarre. The 3rd winningest team in NFL history has 0 Superbowl wins. The 2nd most losing team in Tampa Bay has 2. This team's worst seasons were 3 win affairs under Les Steckler and Leslie Frazier. This team has other down years, and isn't always in the playoffs, but they are rarely out of the playoff hunt when snow is on the ground. Maybe there is no myth or curse, just a statistical anomaly that the human brain perceives as cursed, due to the desire to find order and patterns in chaos and noise. Either way, when the season kicks off again this year, I will be in purple every Sunday the team suits up, with horns on my head, ready to watch the next chapter in this team's saga unfold.
SKOL
Mariners: "They're not competitors, they're protagonists."
Falcons: "They're not a team, they're a trickster god."
Vikings: "They're not cursed, they're mythical."
It's funny and interesting that this site uses the Kensington Runestone as an "origin myth" for the Minnesota Vikings NFL team, because for the longest time, many Minnesotans, Vikings fans have said and even a few have told me that the reason the "Vikings" name was applied to Minnesota's new expansion team in 1961 was due to Minnesota's historically large, Scandivinavian descended population and had very little to do with the 1898 Kensington Runestone controversy that was supposedly discovered by an illiterate wheat farmer and contained scraps of several different languages jumbled together on a runic tablet. Most Minnesotans who might still believe in the myth surrounding the Runestone will say it likely wasnt Norse settlers who wouldve left it there, but fleeing Knights Templars, whose order had been excommunicated, disbanded, and persecuted after 1314 and Philip IV of France invented occult rumors to disparage French Templars and get rid of the order due to their monetary, military power, order, and extraterritorial presence and the fact he owed them money and reportedly, French Templar grandmaster refused to give him an extension.
The history and myths surrounding the Runestone itself are a little bit more complex and nuanced then how these documentations portray it here.
As far as Bud Grant being offered the chance of being Vikings first HC, they interviewed him, but its sketchy if they really did offer him the job over Norm van Brocklin. In 1961, Brocklin was a much more well-known, familiar NFL player, raconteur, personality and wouldve been a more popular pick, if you'd polled most Minnesota fans back in 1961 about who they wanted as Vikings HC.
I mean, Brocklin had just won a NFL title with Philadelphia, 17-13, the year before and he won another NFL title, 11 years earlier, with Rams in 1949. It was assumed and, Brocklin believed, that after retiring in 1960, he'd become the next Eagles HC. The Eagles, for whatever reasons, backed out of whatever commitment or promises they'd made to Brocklin, and Brocklin took the Vikings HC job instead.
You’re clearly not a Vikings fan.
your point, being? @@skyrimelitevids7419
As a devout Packers Fan, I must say that Secret Base is the only channel that could make me excited to watch a 7 hour documentary on the Vikings!
Skol
Bears fan so similar boat, but yeah, no way I'm missing a dorktown documentary. I also didn't know how instrumental Halas was in the Vikings existence.
35:40 - 36:25 That little presentation showing pictures of Bud with the almost ethereal music playing gave me the feeling of someone looking at a long lost family member. An unexplainable warmth and bittersweet emotion that this is a great man who I am glad existed but one I never met nor will ever be able to meet. A pillar of humanity.
So much heartache, pain, and tears packed into a entire series of videos. I CAN’T WAIT (I’ll be crying along with you Vikings fans)
as an Falcons fan who has rewatched the Falcons series about 5 times, the reveal of Norm Van Brocklin at 28:58 had me absolutely *cackling*
Unofficial Table of Contents
0:00 Two Origin Stories
6:11 Opening Titles
7:08 The Comeback
16:01 The Prehistoric Era
21:49 The Legend of Fran Tarkenton
25:02 56 Pounds of Beer and a Yard of Martini
28:56 Norm the Man, Norm the Bully
36:25 It Seemed Like the Thing to Do
43:11 The Bud Grant Experience ft. Jim Marshall, Carl Eller, and more!
50:41 No Heaters Allowed
53:20 El Cid
56:22 Super Bowl IV
1:00:19 Most Valuable Viking
Appreciate this so much. I've come back here to revisit certain sections, especially the Bud Grant stuff, so this is really useful :)
I’d change the bud grant chapter to 35:48 but that’s just my opinion
I seriously can't wait. Life long vikings fan, and soooo many football fans think we're a team that has only lost, and doesn't know how many greats have played for this team and how close we've truly gotten to becoming a juggernaut of the NFL time and time again.
Most fans think you are a team that has only lost, but really, you are a team that excels at doing well besides when it matters the most.
Saints fan here. Really used to love Culpepper, Moss, and the Vikings when I was little. It went south…well, know. I’m really excited for this series, it’s definitely a franchise worth this close of an examination.
tbh, I can't wait to get an in-depth history lesson on my home team. Never had the time to really dive in for every single detail, so having it all here is nice.
As a Packers fan I am also excited to revel in the 70s and 98
But..juggernaut would denote winning..something..
56 pounds of beer, eh? It’s gonna take more than that for a Vikings fan to get through this…
That’s a lot of beer.
There is a reason this comes out the same day Weed goes legal in MN.
@@coletrickle1775 yo for real
@@fortynights1513it’s a lot of pain 😢
@@fortynights1513Less than a pound per season. If you're an enjoyer of a few pints with the lads, less than a pint per season
I learned a friend/co-worker passed away today, and the opening monologue about Bud Grant and his friend got to me. Thank you for making this series.
Sorry for your lost
I am a European who doesn't really care about the NFL but somehow I can't stop watching the stuff that Jon puts out. Really good stuff as always.
These documentaries are the best thing to happen to sports
My dad lived in New England and was a Vikings fan from their inception. It was tough with so my much heartbreak for the Vikes and to see all the success of the local Patriots. He passed 8 years ago and I’m sad he won’t get to watch this amazing doc series.
I'm growing to like the vikings. I'm a manchester utd fan from England but follow nfl too now and I like the eagles the bills and the vikings
Tarkenton was the Mahomes of his era and should’ve won so many rings
The Vikings FO and van Brocklin sort of unknowingly hurt the teams' short-term future when they traded Tarkenton to New York Giants in the 1966 off-season. During Fran's first stint in Minnesota, the defense was decent, but not the dominant, unstoppable forces of nature it would become by late 60's when Grant drafted Carl Eller, Alan Page, brought in Paul Krause, Wally Hildenberg, so while their defense became more dominant and top-rate over Grant's first few seasons, at QB, their was clearly a missing link. Kapp could play inspired, tough-as-nails football but he wasnt the athlete or player that was going to improve Vikings offense for the long-haul. Kapp had a very good, successful 2-3 year run in Minnesota but his flaws were pretty apparent and on agonizing display during Super Bowl IV and after 1969, a contract dispute led Jim Finks to ship him off to New England and for a few seasons, Minnesota's offense became a bit of a rudderless, ineffective anchor because they were lead by mediocre, second-rate QB's like Gary Cuozzo. And all this time, Tarkenton remains stuck on an aging, barely above-average Giants team and ownership that never gave him a more complete, array of weapons or a more competent supporting cast and he is still getting older.
@@davidroberts7282 yep. I commented earlier on how the Vikings have had some of the best football players ever on their roster in every era, have played some of the best ball, and just never seem to line it up. It’s so sad. The randy moss era is going to make me cry probably
@@davidroberts7282Kapp was decent in 69, but in my opinion if you put Tarkenton on that team, they may have won it all vs Kansas City.
Also, not to mention that the defense was at its best in 1969, 70 and 71; the three years before Tarkenton got there. It was still well above average in the years that followed, but Minnesota wasn’t by far the top defense with Tarkenton.
42:42 thanks for relegating 54 years of torture to half a minute, Jon.
I'm so excited. Thank you for your hard work Secret Babes
Secret Baes
Nah, Jon Bois. You can thank Jon bois
@@maxnchiefrespect Alex and Seth wtf
@@Zionicle my bad thank you zionicle.
@@maxnchief SO REAL no problem just wanted to make sure they get their props too
I'm a Welsh Rugby fan who was always mesmerised by the NFL when I first got exposed to it in the 80's but never really became a full fledged fan until I thought I need to pick a team to root for but unfortunately I had no geographical or family links to any area so decided to base my decision on a few things :
1) a lack of silverware
2) a location that is generally undesirable
3) Fanatical fans
That narrowed it down a little but what made the Vikings stand out was when I realised that Mystery Science Theater 3000 started there and it's where Prince comes from.
The first season i became a Vikings fan was the Minneapolis miracle Diggs catch so I took it as a good sign even though we got blown out the next game.
Having this video series is such a boost for us fans who didn't grow up in the USA so many thanks for all the work put into this
I've been waiting THREE YEARS for this--ever since I watched the History of the Seattle Mariners, I've been hoping Jon Bois and Co. would recognize these Vikings are a special, similar kind of story.
I'm trying to remember the line from the History of the Mariners that made me think of the Vikings--i think it was something like "the Mariners aren't a team you root for to win: you root for them because they're the protagonists."
I've always felt that way about the Vikings. I'm SO GLAD IT'S HERE THREE YEARS LATER
I'm here because Kirk Cousins just tore his Achilles tendon and this is my "chicken soup". Go give a hug to the Vikings fan in your life.
Jon Bois!!!!!!!!!!! The single greatest creator in the history of youtube returns. The actual goat. Just seeing this preview has me so hyped im gonna go rewatch the Koo Dae Sung episode for like the 100th time. Im probbably still gonna get a tear in my eye too.
I just watched the Dave Stieb series again over the weekend. That "this is how baseball moves" bit still gets me every time.
Yep, he's... pretty good.
:')
So glad to see Fran Tarkenton getting some love. My favourite player from before my time, one of the greatest to play and could definitely hang today.
The sad/beautiful thing about these history of videos is that these teams never win the big game so you know there’s never gonna be the big win and every season will end in heartbreak. But that’s what makes it great it allows us to appreciate the ride and all the moments that lead up to the big games. The characters that make up the story, the story is about the journey and that’s enough
The "Dorktown" franchises should be revisited if their teams win it all at some point. In my opinion anyway.
@@fortynights1513 I would love that like how they remade the ending of the believland 30 for 30 after the cavs came back Down 3-1
As a Vikings fan this is going to be interesting and fun as well as heartbreaking. It will be fun to watch this series and I'm hyped that Jon Bois is back
As a non Vikings fan the history behind the team was pretty engaging
@@kangkim150 I wasn't alive for most of the history, so it is very engaging to learn facts that don't get talked about often even within our fanbase. I'm happy to see other people who aren't necessarily fans of the Vikings be interested in our team. It's tough being a fan of the Vikings, but it's also worth it and I hope this series shows that.
I’m only 16 minutes in and this is already one of the best videos Jon and Alex have ever put out.
I have been being disappointed for 30 seasons now as a Viking diehard. I bleed purple. Everyone used to make fun of me in my little hometown in Oklahoma, Boomer Sooner, because I was the only Minnesota Vikings fan in town. Then our town had two very fine young men within 10 years of each other get drafted by the Vikings and now everyone in town is a Vikings fan!!! Your channel does such a terrific job on videos like these. I watched the entire Falcons one and I hate the falcons but was so interested I couldn't stop watching. I'm also a Cleveland Indians fan if you can't tell I'm a sucker for suffering!!😂 All I can do is like and share these Vikings videos and pray that I am blessed and you do a series on how some of us longtime Indians fans will never see out team win the world series. My son's a Cubs fan and even he got to experience it. I'm really like when Lord? When's gonna be my time?? 😂
35:15 The truly beautiful yet melancholic introduction to the greatest core to never get a ring. Cheers to a decade of greatness in part due to the man of the hour-Bud
New Jon Bois series, Lemmino uploaded a full feature length video yesterday, Pimanrules did one two days ago and Montemayor put out a 2(3) part documentary of his own only 3 months ago.
Fantastic, hours and hours of 11/10 content from guys who have a year or two in between uploads all practically at the same time, life is good.
Pimanrules
Not to mention the new BobbyBroccoli content, the upcoming Quinton Reviews 12-plus-hour video(s), and Defunctland’s incredible Disney Channel documentary
You might even say life is...
*_Pretty Good_*
steve1989mreinfo has been posting heat too
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Not everyone on earth is copying Jon Bois. SummongSalt sure, but not everyone.
As a lifelong Vikings fan I look forward to the series and showing the suffering we've gone through over the decades. I'll never forget the 1998 NFC title game, screwed me up for life.
Imagine 98’s offense and 69’s defense on one team.
Both teams were pretty good at the other component, but you get my drift.
I was at that game, and it was on my birthday. So messed up.
I broke an entire computer lab right after that game.
"Hasn't missed one all year"
Me too i was 9or 10 at the time. I get a sick feeling now whenever we line up for a field goal
Aaron Rodgers just tore his achilles and man does hearing Jon tell Jets fans to enjoy that Superbowl hurt
Peak has arrived gentlemen
I am so excited to watch this series. I've rewatched the Mariners and Falcons documentaries multiple times, I can't wait to see how this one delivers.
Edit as I start my third rewatch of the whole series: It delivered.
Same here and the Dave Steib one several times as well. I am a Vikings fan, so this couldn't be greater or worse lol. The doublest edged sword.
Pats an cards fan
@@coletrickle1775The second part of the Stieb doc in particular is one of my favorite videos they’ve made.
Along with parts three and four of the doc on my Mariners, part four on the Falcons, and (if you want to count stuff Jon did on his own) part two of the Bob Emergency.
I think, like David Ortiz (nee Arias) he'll knock it out of the park
Jon's unique combination of subject matter, writing/speaking style, choice of background music, and graphics/cinematography (aka complete mastery of Google Earth) make his documentaries absolute masterpieces every time. And I know that it takes an incredible amount of time and effort to put these together, so despite their scarcity, the quality makes them well worth the wait. Much appreciated, y'all folks over at SB.
We talk about athletes being generational talents....Jon Bois is a generational talent. There's no one like him as a storyteller.
What a fantastic episode and its gonna be an incredible series. RIP Bud Grant, amazing coach and an even better human. I have faith Kevin O'Connell will continue his legacy on.
6:11 literally full body chills and a little light headed.
I dunno if it is the music or the theme, if it is the story of people that we will not know anymore or just the surprise to see another video by some of the greatest storytellers of our time; but every time I see a video made by this guy's, my heart decides to skip a beat, my eyes take the decision to tear a bit, my whole life becomes so meaningful and meaningless at the same time, I just love u Secret Base. Thank you
Huge shout out to whoever it was who had the idea to put labels on the field. I don't know American football very well, so when I watched these videos sometimes it's very confusing to figure out what's actually going on. The chart with the win differential scores is also so much better than the old system. Cheers x
A 7 part series! This is so great. Thank you guys for making this!
My great grandfather was one of those that perished in the armistice blizzard here in Minnesota in 1940. Clyde Hemming. 7/20/1901
11/13/1940.
I've never watch football, but I'm ready to become a fan of this team.
Same lol they’re so relatable
Don't get ur hopes up ;)
Don't do it. That way lies madness.
Every year is a roller coaster of insanity until you're inevitably kicked in the nuts in January.
And then you just smile, wave, and say "See you in September!"
And at that time, there you'll be happy and somehow willing to go through it all again.
@@timfortune9 that sounds amazing
Everyone talks about missing the field goal in 98 and the Minneapolis miracle but I’m here for the love boat and Brett Farve and all the other chaos that this team attracts.
“There has never been another coach like Bud Grant, not then, not now.”
The best part about new Jon Bois content is it reminds me Jon Bois exists and I can go back and rewatch all the old Jon Bois content
That graph near the beginning says it all: the Vikings are the best NFL franchise to never win a Super Bowl. It’s uncanny.
Z-axis reveal is the most heartbreaking foreshadowing I’ve ever seen
Hearing Jon Bois narrate one of his videos is like being right in front of a fan on a steaming hot day. It does a lot of things to you all at once. It paralyzes you with relaxation, with calm. Like a hungry lion might feel after a big meal. Every time it is too long in between, but always long enough in between to enjoy it thoroughly.
There is only one team with a positive win differential that has never won a Super Bowl… ans it’s the Minnesota Vikings.
This series is going to be great!
This is gonna be so electric. I screamed when Norm showed up. I can already tell this will be my favorite since Mariners. Let's go
I never thought I would be so excited to see that a chart had a Z axis.
Speaking of which, the Jets part made me laugh
Guys I am from Serbia and I love what you are doing with these videos. Been here since Bob emergency if i am correct. Love you all from Serbia and keep doing this cuz this is awesome!!
I’m from Minnesota and have family in Serbia. Welcome брат!
@@assrammington7961 hello hello brat 👍💪
I can’t wait to see you guys cover Fran Tarkenton. the dude whent to my high school and still holds most of our all time passing records, he also played for the university of Georgia (where he led one of the most comically stupid drives of all time). And even to this day the dude is a Legend Among the old timers of Athens!
I'm very interested in the comically stupid drive if you could share any more about it haha. Go dawgs
Go Dawgs! Also looking forward to seeing Bret Favre’s catastrophic interception.
Top 10 QB all-time. Could have been the GOAT if he played for Grant.
@@QwertyCaesarhe did play for Grant from 72-78
Considering the trailer for this series started with... *that wild card game* and it kicked off with *that comeback game* I have no clue how wild this is gonna get.
*I'M HERE FOR IT*
Papa Jon has graced us with his genius again (and Alex Rubenstein, don't forget Alex Rubenstein!)
Norm van Brocklin is the gift that keeps on giving.
The Vikings are third behind the Steelers and Cowboys in all-time record and ahead of the Patriots?
Wow! There are 17 Super Bowl wins between those 4 teams. Excited to watch this series and see how many the Vikes have won!
Heh
Ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha....(uncontrollable sobbing)
20:04 "The Bears are picked off by Jack Morris"
Dorktown is a simulation.
Fun fact: The Jack Morris from the Dave Stieb fox is actually a Minnesota native.
Packers fan here and though I already know the modern tragedies this older material is heartbreaking even to me.
Still hate their everloving guts though.
JIM MARSHALL SHOULD BE IN THE HALL
YES!
130.5 sacks (albeit over 282 games).
Great career. Not sure if I’d go that far, but certainly overlooked, and a great career nonetheless.
The Vikings greatest teams have all been self-destructing juggernauts.
Cant wait to send this to every Vikings fan I know.
Vicious
Bud grant's face always struck me as that grandpa who was always kind and warm. Even if they weren't always smiling or joking, they were honest
It's very endearing to read up on his legacy and seeing how he fit that mold
He seems so much like what I wish the American ideal could be. Has values but doesn't preach. Has expectations of others, but doesn't condescend. Has a strong work ethic, but won't be force himself or others to work more than they have to.
6:05-6:15 just made my skin crawl. Amazing work as always guys
Near the end of this first episode, I heard the song Capital City by Brian Bennett. Triggered some serious recall, as it was the unofficial theme song for Portland Trail Blazers broadcasts.
Yeah, this Vikings fan is also a Blazers fan. My rooting life has mostly been pain, heartbreak, devastation. At least I have my Dodgers.
I absolutely love these Dorktown series and I’m glad that they’re tackling another interesting football team in the Minnesota Vikings.
Let the journey begin!
A secret base series on my favorite team! Time to feel all the pain all over again.
I'll be with you there brother, Skol Vikings!
As a Vikings fan, I can’t wait to relive every moment that has caused me mental anguish for the past 35 years.
At the beginning of this, when Jon mentioned Yellow Lake, WI, I thought to myself "heh, neat I grew up right down the road from a Yellow Lake", and then nearly did a spit-take as Jon zoomed in on the place I grew up!
A neat fact, that train that Bud Grant heard that saved his life would have been on what is now the Gandy Dancer Trail, a near 100 mile long trail that follows along the grade of that old railroad. I grew up running, biking, and sno-mobiling down that trail, right where Bud would have been. Had no idea about this little bit of history, cool thing to know from our little corner of the northwoods!
Jon, I will be remembering this video forever because I am currently vacationing IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA here on the very night this video was uploaded and I only go here for a few days once a year. And I am a packers fan!
this new series will single handedly get me to football season. no preseason or hall of fame game will do the same.
Jon Bois & Alex Rubinstein, the definition of the perfect duo for grade A documentary production!
This one I’m very much excited about as a Packers fan, not because I want to bask in the pain of a rival, but because the Vikings have a very interesting history, despite all the shortcomings attached to it!
It’s a history very much deserving of this kind of documentary!
Their history is interesting, ours is better though 😅
I guess when you almost die in a blizzard as a child, Winnipeg feels positively balmy
Just a few minutes in and we've got like four history lessons and a near-death experience. This is peak Jon Bois.
As a Vikings Fan I’m prepared for the Heartbreak, the Triumph, and the absolute emotion that this series will bring out of me
As a Minnesotan, this is f**king awesome! Seeing this channel put out a straight up doc on the Vikings is like Christmas. I'm not even 10 minutes in and this Bud Grant story is legendary. Might seem kinda trivial, but it was cool to see the newspaper clipping about the 1940 Blizzard have an excerpt from Red Wing; I'm not super-knowledgeable about it, but my Great Grandfather wrote for the Red Wing Republican Eagle, and probably worked there at the time.
I had this almost crippling realization as that frame came up that my Great Grandfather probably spent a significant portion of his life as a Packers fan. As much as I'm probably going to enjoy the rest of this documentary, that does leave me feeling a little wrong inside.
RIP Joe Kapp
Lost but not forgotten Chicano legend
PLEASE do one of these on the Denver Nuggets! super interesting team history, would make a great video!
might not work since they eventually ot a championship , the teams they usually do are ones that have gotten so close multiple times but non the less never get one or teams that have been horrible despite having great players. In that regard the orlando magic , brooklyn nets, sacremento kings, pacers and jazz work way better for the type of teams they usually cover
minnosota works too
Might have to throw a boat party for the premiere! Anybody want to join me on Lake Minnetonka? Maybe charter the boat with Al and Almas? What could go wrong?
I feel like I have an extremely unique perspective, especially on the opening game story. I've lived my whole life in Minnesota. But I was never really a Vikings fan. I got into football in 2003, and after the entire time of my life not winning anything, and no real household team, I decided to be a Colts fan. I was tired of watching choke jobs and failed seasons and wanted to pick a winner. And, coincidentally enough I went to that game last year with my wife, who IS a Vikes fan. And the sheer rollercoaster of emotions that both of us went through in those 4 hours was stunning. I was holding her as she cried at halftime, and she held me shellshcoked at the final. That game was impossible. And yet it happened. I'm still stunned to this day.
I'm so enamored with attention to detail here. The writing and presentation are phenomenal. Cant wait for the next episodes. Much love from a Minnesota fan.
This is so damn good! The simple animations are perfect for the story telling and the writing is excellent. Major respect to everybody involved!
I’m so happy Secret Base just let’s these guys make absolute art for these dorktown videos. Some of the best videos on CZcams by far
All of these documentaries and stories are amazing! Thank you for putting all of this together.