“You don’t belong here” | Dorktown
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- It’s the 1980s. The Vikings’ storied Fran Tarkenton/Purple People Eaters era has ended. Seems like the party’s over, right? Believe it or not, though, the truly wild times are just now beginning. This is when we begin to understand who the Minnesota Vikings truly are.
Written and directed by Jon Bois
Written and produced by Alex Rubenstein
Rights specialist Lindley Sico
Secret Base executive producers Will Buikema and Jon Bois
A few goofs to note:
• In the “Minnesota game temperatures” scatter plot, we believe we might have missed a small handful of games. However, the data is still broadly accurate.
• Regarding the 1982 Falcons game, there’s a goof on Jon’s part. One Falcons touchdown was a pick-six, so special teams only accounted for two touchdowns; however, all three were non-offensive touchdowns.
• At around the 30-minute mark, the Vikings' losing seasons in 1979 and 1981 were complete oversights by Alex.
• Minor labeling error: this chart reflects the final six games of each teams, not final six weeks.
• It was Wade Wilson, not Tommy Kramer, who lofted the ball about 48.5 minutes in.
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Thank you for your service, Les.
With how often he brought it up I thought it was going to turn out to be a very funny case of stolen valor, but then they got to the part about him getting so into his own motivational speech that he punched himself in the face and I was like no this man was definitely a marine
Thank goodness someone has respect for our servicepeople around here
"Fuckers" - Jerry Burns
He was in the Marines, you know.
@@fads90 oh wow, really? I did not know about that. I guess he needs to bring the marines up a little more.
Me seeing “1989” and hearing Jon talk about how the Vikings need a running back has me yelling “Don’t do it!” like that scene from Interstellar
Nononononono waitwaitwaitwaitwait
WAITWAITWAITWAIT
Why deep dive into this loser franchise, do a real franchise like the ny giants who actually put together full seasons to win superbowls. Vikings are the lions with a few extra playoff experiences!
@@Mynipplesmychoicepain and suffering, losing on the precipice of success makes for an interesting story. The vikings have the 5th highest win % in the super bowl era but have not won a single super bowl. The giants have plenty of interesting stuff to talk about I'm sure, just like any other team, but not as much as the vikings
More like "Don't do it!" from Tyler Perry's Diary of a Mad Black Woman.
@@SUP3RTOM20000 Kirk cousins is boring
Anyone who's played sports for a significant amount of time has had a hardass coach like Steckel. Comparing sports to war, pointlessly working you to exhaustion just to prove that he can... they're the absolute worst.
And there's always that one guy on the team who refuses to take the coach's shit and ends up nearly coming to blows with him on the sideline or pulling a Latrell Sprewell in practice. And it is ALWAYS entertaining for the rest of the guys, who are fully in the corner of the teammate willing to get kicked off the team to make a point.
Today, these people are known as 'boomers'
Sometimes that approach can work in the right situation. Look at Mike Keenan. Dude was a total tightwad but that's exactly what the Rangers needed in '94. I do agree that coaches like that have a short shelf-life though.
People make fun of him because of how the Bills lost those 4 Super Bowls in a row but Marv Levy had a great answer when he was once asked if the Super Bowl was a must win because they had lost a couple already. He said something to the effect of: "World War 2 was a must win. This is only a game." Since he was a vet, he hated when coaches used war metaphors because to him football was fun and trivial by comparison.
We had a JV assistant coach in high school like this. He was woefully unqualified for even this minor position in our mediocre football program and he made up for the fact that everyone knew it by constantly screaming, flailing around like a possesed man in response to every mistake, and constantly bringing up the Green Barets and how our lack of conditioning would've led to someone getting killed. I have no doubt that there were a few kids that legitimately wanted to play football quit football over it, because the head JV coach had a private meeting/pep talk with me when I ended up not making varsity as a sophomore. It was a miserable two years.
I can feel it already. The end of the video will be something like "the Vikings did a trade that will change the franchise and NFL history" and every Vikings fan will cry in their houses, truly amazing stuff
For as much as it already was. Imagine how much Dallas could’ve gotten if Minnesota became one of the worst teams in the late 80’s and early 90’s.
@@fortynights1513One advantage football has over basketball is that you get a lot more value trading for mid-late round picks.
If an NBA team trades for a future first-round pick and it drops to 20, they might as well have traded their player for nothing. And future second-rounders are far more often than not just G-League roster fodder.
Meanwhile, contrast the 120th pick (23rd pick of the fourth round) in 2003, which New England used to pick Asante Samuel. They got that pick via a trade...with themselves.
New England traded the pick to Carolina, who traded the pick to Denver, who traded the pick back to New England in three separate transactions.
You never see that in other sports, or if you do, it's not a pick that ends up with a 3-time All-Pro and borderline Hall of Famer.
I was born in 85. Too young to give a shit about the Herschel Walker trade but just old enough to enjoy Moss completely dominating the NFL… and oh yeah 98 grumble grumble
Accurate prediction
Vikings fan here ready to cry
Jon counting every single word of the Jerry Burns F bomb press conference and counting the F's per minute is one of the greatest things I've ever seen him do!
Jon Bois loves math AND counting. You can tell.
It was alright
Pretty good, some would say
The part “I think we won.” Had me fucking wheezing
@@rotomwash0355I share Jon's appreciation of math (I can count really high)
The cruelest irony of the Herschel Walker trade? In the 1990 draft, the Dallas Cowboys used the Vikings' 1st round selection to trade up to select...Emmitt Smith.
'duh.
I miss the old days of the star running back. UrinatingTree pointed out in a recent video that in the last 15 years, the highest-paid RB on a Super Bowl-winning team made $2.5 million, and often was a fourth- or fifth-rounder on a rookie contract making next to nothing. When the Giants drafted Saquon Barkley second overall in 2018, everyone ripped them a new one for it, and rightly so since that was one of the richest quarterback draft classes since 1983, even if not all of them panned out as pros.
The league's changed, but when I was in high school in the early '90s, Smith, Sanders, Thurman Thomas, Christian Okoye, and plenty of other runners were the class of the league.
My Steelers were the ones who traded with the Cowboys for them to move up to draft Emmitt Smith. The Steelers could have gotten Emmitt Smith instead of a malcontent like Eric Green.
Just the salt in the wound. Like Dallas saying "You would trade all of THIS to us for the sake of one RB. Watch us just easily find Walker's replacement. A player even better than Walker ever was"
I think it's even funnier that when the Vikings got rid of Herschel, he eventually ended up back in Dallas. Talk about getting something for nothing.
Why did Bud Grant retire? It wasn’t that his heart wasn’t in it, it wasn’t that the team didn’t have potential, it wasn’t that he didn’t like the new stadium, and it wasn’t that management wanted him gone. It just seemed like the thing to do. What a wonderful guy.
We were lucky to have him. Rest in peace. The term "happy hunting grounds" fits no one better than Bud Grant.
It just seemed like the right thing to do.
"YOU DONT BELONG HERE" are words that just hurt... they cut deep. and its full of hurtful meaning. I felt that.
He set that up in previous episodes too ;-; good writing
yeah...such a devastating and ominous end
Smart lad, to slip betimes away
From fields where glory does not stay
And early though the laurel grows
It withers quicker than the rose.
Eyes the shady night has shut
Cannot see the record cut,
And silence sounds no worse than cheers
After earth has stopped the ears:
Now you will not swell the rout
Of lads that wore their honours out,
Runners whom renown outran
And the name died before the man.
"Are your troops suffering casualties within the universe of your anecdote?!" Priceless line. Thank you for your service, Les.
"The Vikings super bowl dreams are dashed by an unlikely missed kick against the Falcons"
No, you can't do this to me, you can't treat me like the Falcons!
I didn’t even catch this the first time, Jon and friends really have no chill 😭
Understood the avatar reference
We were still up by seven when that kick missed. That loss is not Anderson's fault.
came here just for this. lol
At least nothing like that would ever happen to the Vikings again!
Two things that blow my mind about this series:
1. It’s free to watch on CZcams.
2. As a Packers fan, this is making me feel sorry for the Vikings.
I feel the same way about the Mariners doc, in the sense that I live in Seattle and take great pleasure in riling up the local sports fans (Seahawks fans in particular are the most insufferable in football, because they don't know a false start from a first down and commit the unforgivable sin of wearing those No. 12 "Fan" jerseys to games.) I'm from Boston originally, where you can walk into any convenience store and strike up a conversation with the clerk about any of the local teams and the level of discourse will be better than anything on ESPN. A lot of old-school sports towns are like that. Seattle, though...ignorance in every direction from the Peninsula to the Pass.
And yet Dave Niehaus' call on "The Double" gets me right in the feels every time.
@@SimuLord Just wait for the 90s 00s lol
If it makes you feel any better I am a Cowboys fan and I will die hating the Packers.
Packers fan here raised by a Vikings fan who'd like to see his dad get just one SB win in his lifetime. Been feeling sorry for the Vikes since I watched most of his football soul depart back in '99.
@@migangelmarttied to the hip in futility as you hear those blistering words. "You do not belong here"
Only Jon Bois could repeat the phrase "thank you for your service" ad nauseum and have the implication go from "genuine" to "STFU" with every passing utterance. Brilliant, brilliant writing.
You guys are so good at not spoiling history. You've done it twice this series as somebody who leaves the team comes back, but with Tarkenton and Grant. But as you discuss history you don't talk about the past future, even as you hint at the present we know now. A very fine needle to thread.
Jon Bois is a master at threading that needle
I hope you watched their Mariners series…. This is good, that was a masterclass
@@successfulusername not to sound like a hipster but I've seen everything he's put out since Breaking Madden. I was there for the Boisless years, where the whole of sports jnterntent cried "where is jon?" That mariners series was great. I am going to have to rewatch it now that I'm living in Washington.
I knew nothing about Bud Grant, beyond his appearances on LeBatard's show when he was doing his yard sale. But wow... that dude was truly one of one. RIP, Coach.
I was so confused at the beginning why 8 points was a 2 score lead, but then I realized this was before the 2 point conversion
in the slow mo shots before the rashad catch video resumes you can see a guy with yellow gloves right up against the railing behind the end zone, that is my grandfather and my grandmother is right next to him to the right
Missed field goal against the Falcons by a kicker who never misses. Hopefully that doesn't happen again.
'Tune in next week for an exciting new episode...' The pain....make it stop.
I'd say the odds of that happening are 28-3.
Yeah that one hurt. Just like all the others.
That made me ACTUALLY laugh out loud.
@@VinceLyle2161those are insurmountable odds there
Thank you for your service, Les
Alex's gleeful joy at being able to make charts with steep downward slopes was _palpable_ in a way that suggests it was every bit as genuine as it sounded.
I can't see Keith Millard's name without thinking about when the cops were attempting to arrest him for being drunk and disorderly at a bar in the Twin Cities, to which he screamed "My arms are bigger than your guns!" at them and tried to fight them...
Someone bought tickets to the gun show.
That was the first time I ever heard the term "terroristic threats."
The whole Steckel mess really had me thinking about Urban Meyer and his collective fiascos. Can't wait for his chapter in The History of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
It will be 100% better than the recent Swamp Kings documentary that came out.
It just kind of glossed over all the interesting stuff.
To rate Meyer ahead of Hue Jackson on the list of worst coaches says a lot about Meyer. I still say Jackson was the absolute "lift up the barrel and dig in the dirt underneath" scraping-the-barrel coach, but Meyer...woof.
What history? lmao
@@SimuLordHue Jackson seemed like a decent person, he was just unfortunately a really bad coach. Urban on the other hand... really bad at both (at least in the NFL realm)
The whole Steckel mess had me thinking about when Les Steckel was in the Marines.
Ball is… caught!! RASHAD!! SIDELINE!! TOUCHDOWN!! UNBELIEVABLE!!
Muslim player catches Hail Mary. Don't tell me the gods don't have a sense of humor.
@@SimuLord It kinda makes sense because Mary is also a highly revered figure in Islam. In fact, the Qur'an actually mentions her even more than the Bible does! So maybe QB's should start throwing more of their Hail Marys to Muslim receivers lol...
Just wait a few more years. I am not looking forward to seeing that play against the Cardinals.
@@grimtea1715 I hope to hell they use Paul Allen's play by play call
it's probably my favorite in the history of pro sports
@@Alex_Off-BeatChristians ought to know that Jesus is revered in Islam too. The Quran calls him by the name Issa.
I'm a Patriots fan, but if I would give my life for Bud Grant.
Fuck the patriots
Maybe not my life, but I'd fight to have a Bud Grant
@@SpeedWayDre every team should have at least one Bud Grant
Poor you, having to sit through decades of Bill Belichick.
he lived a long life
"Is there a lesson here? NOPE." is the long awaited sequel to "What have we learned? Nothing. Less than nothing. Just how I like it"
Unrelated, but the Jerry Burns press conference had a hidden "Dorktown" gem laying wide open infront of us.
Protect your Bob. They're precious.
"A double shift at the cuss-word factory" Bois at it again with another gift of impeccable turn of phrase.
That one's going directly in to the personal lexicon.
"In fact Les, you have probably said more about the Marines in the last couple of months than Bud has said about everything combined" is by far the funniest and most truest line I've heard in this entire series.
Jerry Burns might not have had that extensive a vocabulary, but by God, he was going to use the words he _did_ know to their fullest effect. Another great episode, gentlemen. Can't wait to see the rest of them.
Next week.
The Good News: 1998
The Bad News: 1998
The ends of the next 3 premiere’s are going to be incredibly painful for Vikings fans, relateable.
Especially the 90's.
we dont need those ends ... the simple fact of being a vik fan is painful in itself ... history is just added bonus
I wonder how they'll do the '98 playoffs. We get back to the "this is a story for another time" part.
As an Eagles fan, this series is like reading the ancient texts of the enemy, learning they were human, just as human as anyone else.
It will be bittersweet, certainly, to see the Vikings fall in recent years to us, but it will lead to us conquering the evil empire to reach the promised land. And soon after, a team everyone thought dead by burning ship will surpass that dynasty in a metric unexpected.
You say that like the last three weren't
"He looks like an elf that just pulled a double shift at the cuss word factory" Is one of the funniest things I have ever heard about Jerry Burns. Fucking perfect.
At 41:32 "he looks like an elf who just pulled a double shift at the cuss-word factory" What a great description of Jerry Burns. Perfection.
The Vikings were really good in the 1980s even after losing all their hall of famers...they just existed at the same time as Joe Gibbs, Bill Parcells, and Bill Walsh had the NFC on lockdown.
With a little help from one of the greatest offensive lines football's ever seen, one of the greatest front sevens, and the greatest quarterback-wide receiver tandem of all time. Great coaches, sure, but as Phil Jackson once said when asked about the secret to his success in basketball, "I had Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant."
@@SimuLord Sure. The Washington Redskins, New York Giants, and San Francisco 49ers had the NFC on lockdown. Only the Bears were able to spoil the party in 1985. I just meant those coaches' versions of those teams.
@@johnpoole3871 Agreed, just maybe don't use the racist name.
@@agoo7581😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@agoo7581, that's what the team was called, what the hell is he supposed to call it? And before you say crap, I have lots of Native American blood in me. I could not care less that the team was called the Redskins.
I hope whoever told Steckel he was fired also added “We lost a soldier today.”
"Unit lost"
With this video, Jon and Alex will hopefully do a sensational (bleeping) job.
Legit, that press conference should be in here somewhere.
I hope that game gets a good rewind too. Tied 21-21 from 3 touchdowns for the Rams and 7 field goals from the vikings, and vikings won on a safety in overtime. Weirdest non scorigami scoring in a game ever
I don't wanna name names.. (then names Anderson!). the best, the best!! love jerry burns!
Burnsey!!!
@@rileywern9619It should absolutely be mentioned, but I doubt they’d show play by play since it’s a regular season game.
Side note: Seven field goals, that’s a lot.
How he included it was way better than I could have imagined
RIP bud grant 🫡
The existence of the Minnesota Vikings is one elaborate cosmic plan to disprove the phrase "Offense sells tickets. Defense wins championships"
Les Steckel: thank you for your service
cringier than Norm Van Brocklin and Jerry Glanville combined.
There's not one Vikings fan without deeply solid reasons for hating Mike Lynn.
I'm not even a Vikings fan and the main thing I took away after watching the video is that Mike Lynn fucked the franchise after Bud Grant left. I thought it was just the Hershel Walker trade but good god.
Mike Lynn had a solid run as the GM of the Vikings. He managed to field competitive teams in Minnesota during the years that the 49ers, Redskins, Giants and Bears where the NFC big dogs. Just like Bobby Beathard had his reputation tarnished trading for the rights to draft Ryan Leaf, Mike Lynn will always be remembered as mortgaging the future for Hershel Walker.
Gave himself a nice retirement nest-egg, as well.
I can't believe the person dumb enough to do the Herschel Walker trade was savvy enough to con ownership into that whole revenue sharing sendoff.
@@phillusoIt’s a trade that nobody would make now, not just because of his performance, but because that position has been devalued
I have never loved an irl sports coach as much as I love Bud. he just seems like a good, salt of the earth dude.
Oh hey did Les Steckel serve in the Marines?
I don’t think he ever said anything to suggest that, but it’s a little known fact that yes he indeed did
"My God... just look at it. Is there a lesson here? ... Nope!"
Jon's the best.
Honestly my favorite Coach Bud fact in this is that he has on multiple occasions tried to raise and train baby seagulls
The 4th criteria for a "good game" should be the lead changing more than once.
Yeah there definitely needs to be some way to account for garbage time
@Frigidevil my secret 5th criteria is that the game has to be one score at some point the last half of the 4th quarter. But that's harder to quantify and put into a graph.
Excellent analysis, Peen Wienerstien.
@@PeenWienerstienThe game has to be one score at the start of a drive in which the team that is trailing has the ball in the back half of the 4th quarter. Scoring a touchdown to drop it from 14 to 7 with 7:29 left but then never getting that close again as the other team scores and coasts down the stretch isn't much fun.
I’m actually going to be in Minnesota the day this premieres, I’m slightly concerned Jon may be hiding in my walls at this point.
"You don't belong here"
*HEEEEEEERRRRE'S JOHNNY*
That 7 straight possessions with a turnover is insane. This series just keeps getting better and better
What's more insane was finding out that it has happened more than once.
Uncle Burnsy's press conference needs to be put in a museum
Pete Carroll is probably the closest NFL coach we'll ever have to Bud Grant, and he was Grant's assistant in Minnesota for a while
Reporter: Why'd you go on a rant after winning?
Burns: It seemed like the thing to do...
The thing I keep coming back to during this series: Bud Grant is awesome.
The best part about Jon & Alex is that they educate you about important events and eras in a sports team’s history, but they always entertain you while doing so. And the way Jon & Alex cleverly blend appreciation for sports history, statistics, AND a brilliant sense of humor is very impressive and refreshing. Great job, guys!
(expletive) yeah this is gonna be a (expletive) good video
Jeff Passolt?
@@j.u.j.o.music.Jerry Burns 1989 press conference reference
@@fortynights1513 and a game the vikings WON! buhahahahah!
"Dorktown," whith Jon Bois and Alex Rubenstein, are the greatest sports documentaries of all time.
Remove the word "sports", and I still think you are accurate.
its good for a free documentary and convenience on youtube but the 30 for 30 documentaries are definitely better, sports documentaries with actual footage and interviews will always be great. Not trying to diss dorktown
Knowing nothing of the history of the Vikings, I wholeheartedly agree that Jerry Burns outburst is a legendary moment in sports history, but I love it even more because it's really just a guy standing up for his friend.
"You dont belong here" ITS THE LES STECKEL EPISODE LETS GOOOOOOO
I read ahead a little (via Pro Football Reference's team season summary pages), and that season stands out like a Technicolor parrot in a black-and-white movie. Can't wait to hear more of the story.
@SimuLord jon will have a much more in depth and fun explanation, but essentially bud was like 'i'm tired, I'm gonna retire' and the vikings were like "no don't please bud!" And he was like 'don't worry our receivers coach les will be a great replacement!'
Les went a little too hardass (afaik) as the new guy, the players hated it, but they won a few games! They got blown out week 1, but were 2-2 after a couple nailbiters! Then they lost a lot of close games, won a close game, then (here's the part you saw in PFR), over the last 6 weeks of the season, NEVER ALLOWED FEWER THAN 31 POINTS AND NEVER SCORED MORE THAN 21. Averaged allowing 40 points per game and averaged scoring 13.
Then les refused to resign so the vikings fired him and bud came back like 'sorry guys I thought he'd be alright, my bad!'
I still say and I'll re-commit, one year of LSteckel was wayyyy better than watching mike zimmer for 10 years accomplish near-nothing.. no kidding, they had a few nice seasons, I know the ENTIRE history so spare me, but I knew he was taking this team nowhere by the end of his tenure. hell, at least stupid LS was 1 and DONE. zimmer was like 10 and done nothing.
@@rileywern9619 welp, looks like the video say otherwise.
Bud: "guys I'm too burned out, can Jerry led the team now?"
Lynn: "nah dude this young marine Les looks better"
@musyarofah1 indeed I misremembered (I was not alive but I'd read about it)
yet another bud dub
The wonderfully colorful Pat Reusse told a story on the Skor North CZcams channel of how bud worked a clause into his contract to return to the Vikings that allowed him free gas for life from a pump at the Vikings practice facility. Reusse tells how Bud could be found gassing up his entire family’s small fleet of pickups until the Vikings finally built a whole new facility decades later.
4:12 I’m sure Brian Sipe and the Browns learned from this play, and won’t end up throwing a risky late-game pass in a crucial situation later this very season. 😉
I know I've said this a couple times already, but this series is causing me to love Bud Grant like I would my own father. He's such a beautiful man; a man to root for, on the football field and off. The brilliant presentation of his resignation, starting at 18:45, moved me to tears. RIP, Bud. You're truly a hero.
Before this i had never heard of Bud Grant. Now? Bud Grant is one my personal heroes. I fucking love Bud Grant.
Whereas last episode’s ending was heartbreaking, this one was soul crushing. The Les Steckel stuff was absolutely hilarious though.
The last minute of this was like a dagger in the heart. Thanks guys.
In the middle of the 1998 season, my dad told me that when it comes to the Vikings, no matter how good it gets, you always know how it is going to end. I wish I could watch this series with him, but I want to thank you for helping to fill in the depth of what my dad meant when he said that. Between watching the Vikings and Gophers for the past 25 years, this is the most predictable series I've ever watched. Of course there will be an inexplicable penalty, series of fumbles by a team that doesn't fumble, accidental squib quick that works in the other teams favor somehow, or mysterious rotation of an all-time great at exactly the wrong time. Bring on Gary Anderson, but let's talk about the last possession going into halftime.
The Les Steckel section had me in tears lol
"he looks like an elf who just pulled a double shift at the cuss word factory"
Well, (expletive), that's (expletive) brilliant.
Reaching the point in the video where Bud Grant retires feels like saying goodbye to an old friend
45:30 you call Wade Wilson "Kramer". First mistake I've ever noticed from Secret Base.
I was just watching the Mariners doc again earlier this week, and Jon makes a small mistake on Edgar Martinez's 1994 OPS (he said 1.109, it was 1.107).
Later, when he says something to the effect of "it is impossible to overstate just how great this guy was", there's a little note in the corner of the screen that says "uh apparently it is dummy" that cracks me up every time I see it.
3:55 Today I learned that the NFL adopted the two-point conversion rule in 1994.
When the music dropped at 6:45, I thought that Rickey Henderson was about to torment the Vikings!
Thank (expletive) for this (expletive) series! Thank you for your (expletive) service Jon and Alex.
1:10:36 This *hurt* man because I just got booed by like 16 small children who I just wanted to make happy (I worked at a summer camp) and I cried in my car afterwards lol
It's ok man, I got this.
Ok kids, pay very close attention. You're going to learn some new words...
@@nicknumber1512 ain't no quesh-fuck about it
The Press conference word graph was brilliant lol
Bud Grant is probably the most forward thinking coach of all time, kind and respectful on top of all that. Rest Up Bud. You’ll be sorrily missed.
Everytime a new part releases I think about how long it would take to get a series like this for every single NFL team
But he's not going to do every NFL team. The Niners, the Cowboys, the Packers, everyone tells their story. The Cardinals, the Lions, bottom feeders who never rise from their position for the entire documentary.
You need a team that's kind of forgotten, but had so many great moments. Candidates I see are the Bills (obvious), Dolphins (had one of the greatest teams ever, but so many decades of trying), Bengels (oof) and Oilers/Titans (oof oof).
Of them the Oilers/Titans is probably the best one for a mix of obscurity, interest, and just sheer wtfness.
I’d like to nominate the San Diego Chargers, Orlando Magic, And Texas Rangers
If we go by teams that (a) have never won a title, (b) came close but got their hearts ripped out of their chests at the doorstep of history, and (c) have a ton of colorful characters, great stories, and "if you're a fan, you know the moment they make even the most distant reference to it" moments...
The Oilers/Titans are the most obvious next choice for the NFL, although what I'd love to see would be a Patriots history that ends after the 2000 season. Let pre-Brady/Belichick New England serve as a ray of hope for every long-suffering, tortured fanbase that if you catch a break, anyone old enough to remember the bad old days has _nothing_ to apologize for.
Bum Philips, Adam “Pacman” Jones, home games at Vanderbilt Stadium, (shivers) 35-3, and one yard short. And that doesn’t even scratch the surface.
@@wspencerhand absolutely, I’d be remiss not to add in Warren Moon and Earl Campbell
So much love to Jon who will go down as one of the greatest sports writers of all time if not THE best, however, I love that this episode had tonnes of Alex time, who I think is majorly underappreciated. These 2 should go down as Lennon and McCartney, the writing team that made legendary art together. We're lucky to live through these times. Thanks, fellas.
In the least disrespectful way possible, these guys are Lennon and Starr
the Jordan - Pippen of sport docuseries
Hell nah bitch they r Shaq & Kobe
@@DoctorCyan I'm not sure which one you're saying is the weak link but I'm pretty sure if you ask one or the other they'd tell you they need each other desperately to make these
There goes my Ahmad Rashad diamond for an NBA and NFL player on hoop grids
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE LES
“If you have small children in the room make sure they pay close attention” killed me.
9:29 is a classic Jon Bois line, and that is why we love it so much
6:07 “in midair, mind you…” nice touch quoting Seinfeld lol
I want a documentary like this but like 15 minutes on every week of Urban Meyer’s reign in Jacksonville. That clown show was incredible and deserves the deepest of dives.
Possibly a fitting sequel to "section 1" or maybe "the people you're paying to be in shorts", a single video talking about a moment rather than a saga.
The quality of your journalism is astounding. Thank you for taking the time to dig into my Vikings with such wisdom and care.
The thing that I find so beautiful and astounding is how many local newspaper sources they're able to track down, and the fact that a whole roster of faceless saints did the thankless work of writing and printing all this stuff.
The Burns "fuck" segment had me fucking dying fucking laughing 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for your service Jon Bois and all at sercet base for all you do.
That's an awesome tune you guys picked for the Herschel segment.
Very Prince-like.
"They have to make a move, and they have to make it now."
As a Cowboys fan, I let out the loudest "OH NO" when I realized what was coming.
It’s wild that Jon Bois managed to deliver an ending to this episode that almost certainly will be more devastating than when we get to 1998 and Bountygate.
Even with the double meaning, the line to close the episode closes out the Minnesota Vikings as an heir apparent, stating plainly that they are now an also-ran. Fuck me that hit hard.
And, for the record, it was the 1987 Divisional Round beat down of the Niners that made me a Vikings fan at eight years old.
Alex has really improved on the voice work. Don't want this to sound like a backhanded compliment because he's always had a nice voice to listen to, but he's sounded especially natural in this series.
Growing up I always consider math and literature very separate things. John a s Alex use both of statistics and story telling so well and so interchangeably it's some of the best story telling out there. About as good as any play movie or show. Great stuff guys
"sup Big Nuts"
Simply another masterclass from the fellas. The fact that this is free is nuts, forever grateful.
I first learned of the legend of Bud Grant when Dan LeBatard called him and talked with him about his annual yard sale. Bud was polite and seemed in on the fact that Dan and the show enjoyed the weird tangential link to football. Thanks for showing us what a generally interesting dude he was.
The worst part of the walker trade is that it made jerry jones who he thinks he is
I like that Jon and Alex aren't afraid to swear, including fuck, which gets videos demonetized. But they only do it when appropriate: when quoting, to express emotion, or for comedic reasons. Another sign of great story telling.
The amount of Bobs and Bobbys in this video makes me happy as a Bob, a Bobby, and a Bob enjoyer
Simply one of the best things, series, I've ever watched. Thank you for your service!
Love this series. It wonderfully encapsulates the joys and pain of being a Vikings fan. I was a senior in high school in the '89 season. The only thing missing is Jeff Passolt's "Coach Uncle Burnsie" fairy tales from the KQRS Morning Show! I may have received a couple of tardy slips for waiting to hear them! Also, it pains me to like this, but then again, I bleed Purple...
Any teacher who would give you a tardy slip for that doesn't deserve to be in the profession.
Wound up looking up Les Steckel after he was brought up... Turns out he's now the QB coach at my sister's alma mater (Centre College), which was smaller than my middle school. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Oh also their singular claim to football fame is beating Harvard once over 100 years ago.
I kept thinking Steckel would prove to be like Tim Johnson and have no war record whatsoever.
chris doleman once again being underrated
Sensational, once again. One slight comedic error having to do with joke logic: Vito Corleone's famous Offer that Couldn't Be Refused did not involve giving up a lot (or much at all), in the manner of Lynn's offer. Rather, Corleone's so-called "offer" was in fact a euphemism - for an ultimatum in the form of a threat. To wit: "Either his brains, or his signature, would be on the contract."
The editing for this series is, like their other series, incredible. So much visual storytelling, call backs, clever edits and reveals, all put together as both a statiscal analysis and a story of a franchise.