Hitler’s Secret STG44 That Can Fire Around Corners
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- In the later stages of WW2 the Germans made some truly insane pieces of equipment. This Bent Barrel attachment for the STG44 is one of the wildest concepts we've ever seen. This is a priceless piece of history that we have been allowed to fire and test. Hope you enjoy.
00:00 very emotional intro
3:30 ballistic testing
5:40 accuracy testing
14:50 in depth talking
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"it may have not won the war, but today they won our hearts."
"Are we allowed to say that?"
Lmao
I mean, as long as it's about the gun then I don't see anything wrong
Always have
@@Barnes-ml9wg I think that might be just you
Best line of 2024 😂
As if this bunch AREN'T going to be total wehraboos! 🤣😂🤣
Jamon from PSA is a absolute legend for letting them use this firearm.
Yes!!!!!!
Customer service at the stores is terrible. They make great rifles, but dealing with the immature children behind the counter is awful.
jamon? Jamon means ham in Spanish 🧐
Gotta try to keep Mike on their good side since he left leviathan 😂
@@giloro85but it’s not pronounced “huhmone” it’s pronounced “jaymin”
German here. To understand the usage of this Krummlauf Rifle, you have to understand european living, especially german architecture.
Most houses, even the ones i am living in now and i grew up within the 90s have a basement which has a small window, up to 30cm of height right above the ground of streetlevel. Meaning you have to use 3 stairs to reach ground level flats and living space, making it so, that you can not look into the flats through windows if you walk by.
Meaning you can stand in a most of the time low ceiling basement (not high enough for german soldiers) and use the Krummlauf to shoot out of these windows. The inaccuracy would mean that you would not hit the guy doing the same on the other side of the street to often. In this way building a death trap for those in between. These basements served as bunkers from the bombs sadly. As far as i know it was developed late in the war probably for the last resort in the urban warfare in the cities and from bunkers. Streets are narrow in germany, not meant for the modern cars, so big or small street, the Krummlauf would have had the correct distance most of the time.
Thank you for sharing this, it is always interesting to learn directly from other cultures. I can imagine the atmosphere of tension, it would have been gut binding, but when it's a life or death situation, the choice is already made. Part of my family came over from Germany in 1893. Maybe you know who the name of an elite group of fighters in medieval times that basically lived at night, they slept during the day and trained and lived in the dark. They took out a huge army over a 4 mile stretch that had the army basically stretched out and could only move a few wide, and of course they would attack at night.
U can’t expect ppI from the us, to understand/respect different cuItures/ways of Iiving my friend. It’s literally one of the biggest things ppI witness with amerikans.
My grandmothers maiden name is faust. I have native American on both sides of my family. I have family from germany and europe. :3 i born in america
Not sure if you are serious or not but the Krummlauf was made for the "Ferdinand" tank.
@@huswsimonbla not sure if you are serious but there is two variants, one for tanks and one for infantry, P variant was for tanks and the I version was for regular infantry soldiers, time to look things up before you talk my dude.
Charlie is just out to push the envelope with the SDI jokes😂
Can not overstate enough how awesome it is there is now modern videos online showing how this thing actually shoots.
There's a mythbusters episode on yt where they test how much you can bend a barrel, and still have it be lethal.
Not very scientific (when are they ever) but it was a fun episode, even though I don't usually care for mythbusters.
Like those rocket pistol videos where each round is about $400
Pleasant surprise seeing you here.
No Kidding - Memes and Gun-Tube videos just keep getting better.
It's almost like Musclecars and Rock&Roll in the late 60s - early 70s
"Have you seen those warriors from the Rhineland? They've got curved guns. Curved. Guns."
Lol is that a change on the line from Skyrim guards?
I used to be an adventurer like you, but I took a Krummlauf to the knee.
"I used to be an soldier like you. Then I took a burst of kurz from a curved STG in the knee..."
I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I hit it big investing in NFTs, started a family, and retired.
"if you have to travel by the night stick to the roads, it's the daedra with curved guns you see"
It makes sense, Demo bent a bunch of barrels in crazy ways, most of em worked, but the accuracy and longevity is the key
i remember when he had a whole yard full of piping to send the bullet thrue a rollercoaster
True. Demo deserves a shout out for his awesome science!!
The ballistic and accuracy testing segments really highlight the engineering ingenuity of the time.
Do they?
For gun geeks this is a big deal, have never seen any footage of this bizarre weapon being fired! Saw this in a book as a kid and it blew my mind thanks for this fascinating video!
weapon attachment*
@@skepticalbadger ?
Haha same here. Saw it in a book in a library when i was like 9 and was amazed.
Pretty big deal for WW2 fans as well. This is crazy to see this type of video with this weapon attachment.
@@fortyfour8160agreed.
I've known about this thing for years but to see it being shot in a video is amazing.
I wish they would have gave close-up shots of the hardware and the attaching mechanism.
Forgotten weapons and Garand thumb both uploading a krummlauf video 17 minutes apart LOL. Time to watch both!
Yeah that was crazy I thought they were going to be in the video together collaborating
@@TheSundayShooter better than the people who talk out of their ass. I don't see a problem with referencing a proper source. The internet is full of so much disinformation these days it is ridiculous...
@@TheSundayShooterCompared to regurgitating something made up? Are you actually complaining that he does research?
Yo I thought I was trippin. Was expecting to see them collaborating. They've had to of done it intentionally
@@bitfreakazoid I was referring to Ian's comment that this is "just a shooting video". Ironic for him to trivialise the demonstration in which a velocity increase was discovered along with stable flight through a medium
_EDIT_ Apologies, I misread Ian's tone! Please disregard the above statement
I love how gun jesus gave you a shout out for this on the same day. two of my favorite gun channels in one day.
Yep def not to boost the algo… just a happy coincidence
1- Congratulations for an excellent video
2- I came here on the recommendation of forgotten weapons
3- The Germans didn't know that to deflect a projectile all you have to do is swing like Angelina Jolie in "Wanted" hahaha
Greetings from Patagonia Argentina
Yeah, the US Army also said The MG42's bark was worse than it's bite.
Or the MP40 was less controllable than the Thompson
That was propaganda meant to keep panic down. Actual reports of weapons testing especially after the war are different
I'm sure soliders on Omaha would disagree
They weren't lying though. You can't hit shit with its 1000rpm+ fire rate. Suppression and area denial sure it's great.
@@patgray5402 That's completely wrong, most machine guns today are built off the MG42. It was an iconic machine gun and ahead of it's time.
Ian MacCollum did a video on 'Forgotten Weapons' to provide history and background on this device when he saw GT's Instagram previews, _before_ watching this video. HUGE props to Ian for showing a TON of class!
Who would have thought garand thumb would make such a big contribution to WW2 history!? It's great to actually see firing of this thing documented for future generations
This is the best gun channel without a doubt. The content this year has been insane! So many things we have never seen in this detail! Thank you so much!
Seeing Charlie goosestepping instantly told me that this video is gonna be a wild one, lol
A "wild goose chase" if you will...
"Why do you have to make it-" *cut* 😂
0:45 Charlie got some goose 🪿 in his step 😂
ERIKA!
@@laurensa.1803bom bom bom 😂
I'm no fan of collectivism although I must say Erica is a banger of a song.
This is unique. Even Ian McCollum is jealous. Only 15 shots, but for people who understand what this device is, 15 shots is a lot of rounds. 15 shots of gun youtube history in the making. Great job.
This is probably the best video on your channel. An absolute blast and an amazing piece of history.
That's amazing to see an American ending up being able to try the Krummlauf! When i was serving in the Bundeswehr we had 2 Ocassions where we were allowed to shoot certain obscure but also in general historic German Guns hand in hand with the "Museum für historische Wehrtechnik" (basically translates to Museum for historical Military Technology).
And we indeed had a Krummlauf Presentation, sadly none of us, no matter how qualified were allowed to try it out, but instead a retired General who ended up working for the Museum did.
Is it a bonkers Idea and was probably not really useful at all? Definitely. Was it interesting? Hell yeah!
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
There were version with a 30 degree, 45 degree and 90 degree curves. The 90 degree curved versions were for operation from the hatch of a tank, half track or assault gun.
Yes it was useful if you didn't want to get shot entering a building, firing from a trench or from a hatch of the StuG III as infantry tried to overwhelm the
For 70 years this excellent idea has been ignorantly dismissed as one of Hitlers Crazy Weapons. Hitler had nothing to do with it.
@@williamzk9083I highly recommend watching Forgotten Weapons' most recent video on it. It wasn't Hitler's idea, but it likely never would've made it past the prototype phase without him. What's more, _as proven in this very video,_ it had significant drawbacks that made it nonviable for deployment.
@@williamzk9083 As tempting as the idea is, there was no practical way for it to be used as there was too many drawbacks (as seen in this video). I forget the name of it but Israel has a really nice attempt which is probably the best we'll get for another hundred years or so.
The USA also made an attachment for the “grease gun” to shot around corners. When I was in grammar school in the 1970s I saw it in a book. Also there are attachments that use a camera that accomplishes the same function.
Edit: There is in fact a photo of it in the subreddit r/interestingasfuck . M3 with bent barrel, c.1953.
It also did not work well.
Jamon! Way too awesome to let us get the chance to see this rifle in use !!!!!!! Way to go PSA guys!!!! So dang awesome to see this in action, actual rounds and get some in depth information on it!!!! Love it
*Jamin
Spectacular stuff..I love whatever content you guys put out but this was big fun.
Hey boys when your tool is curved, it makes it easier to hit those important spots. This is an advantage, virgs.
The stg that's spent a good portion of it's life doing (P)orn.
vill you vear wigs?
i spit out my coffee when Mica caught that stray lol
@@Asrieloo"vigs"😂
@@thankfullyredeemedmaderigh7436That translated as aids 😂
This one would have been an amazing one to get the Ballistic High Speed guys involved with. Extreme slow motion on the bent barrel would have been fucking sick.
Yeah, really missed opportunity...
Let’s hope the owner is generous enough to allow the BHS guys to put a round or two through it in the name of real information!
Not that I didn’t enjoy this video, but BHS enables us to see things on a totally different level.
It would look like a bullet exiting a barrel. You can thank me later.
agreed, I was thinking about the same thing when he mentioned that the slug would have deformation
Its not many others have done that. It looks like a bullet leaving the barrel.
A Krummlauf got me a credit on Mythbusters. I took a photo of one at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds museum years ago and they wanted to use the image for Mythbusters' "Shooting around corners" episode.
garand thumb is ALWAYS bringing the absolutely coolest and most unique things on this channel! man, every time i watch a vid, im an even bigger fan than before. i dont know of any other people putting out such cool content and getting their hands on items like this. thanks again, this is awesome
An actual survivor Krummlauf? That's incredible.
No. It is very clearly not an original.
@@skepticalbadger Username checks out
@@AnoneemusNoenamelmao
@@skepticalbadger Judging by everything said in the video and the description it is _heavily_ implied that it is.
Also think logically, do you think there’s still somebody manefacturing these… for the StG-44 of all things? I can’t even find any non-functioning replicas for sale. Also if it were modern GT is always really good about giving credit to whoever made the stuff so in all likelihood it is the real thing.
If you have any counter-evidence, please do share! 😊
The original 8mm Kurz were mild steel/iron core projectiles. Which would likely break apart in the Bend much easier than softer lead core projectiles like the modern ammo you’re shooting now.
Thank you! I was going to mention the steel core military ammo vs likely lead core modern ammo which is more malleable and able to bend down the barrel without shattering. Also the military ammo of the time was likely steel jacketed as well so much stiffer which probably helped with the barrel's wearing out so quickly. The soft guilding metal jacket and lead core is going to do a lot less damage to the barrel.
Not to mention they have a 30 degree barrel, the 45 degrees would have chewed them up way worse
@@gavindagawdthey also had 90 degree barrels too
@@spazmonkey2131would you use the 180 degree barrel? 🤔
@@BudgiePanic If I'm defending Berlin from the Red Army, absolutely
Really should have had Ballistic High Speed come out for this one
Love this kind of deep dive into odd weapons, especially these experimental designs. Thanks for the Demo, guys!!!
Strangely gaps in the rifling matter way less than you would think. It was common in stellite lined machine gun barrels.
I wouldn't expect it to matter at all if it's all the same twist rate.
Leaving one barrel at a set spin rate (twist) and then jumping into another barrel even at the same spin rate without the lands lining up might cause some instability in the bullet but might not have much or any real effect on trajectory or stability.
Or like you know, revolvers cyl gap
@@allthingsconsidered3211 a revolver cylinder is unrifled.. i could be wrong but as far as i'm aware revovler cylinders are smooth, the barrel is rifled.
@@josephxavier1707 true but the concept of pressure blowing by remains the same
“It tilts on an AXIS on your shoulder”
I see what Micah did there 😎😜🤣
I don't think it was intentional.
What a privilege to be able to actually use a piece of history awesome good job
That gun needs to see it's doctor for Peyronie's Disease.
Reminds me of that line from Porky’s…
‘Have you been f-ing around corners?’
Yes. Yes he has.
Damn...now Ive gotta watch Porkys again.
This is EXACTLY what I was thinking about. Also, every time I pick up a bent screwdriver.
@@jeffblackmon288 Great minds think alike
BAAAAHAHAHA
That sight is pretty sweet for the 1940s.
I think it is a bit sour(kraut).
The nazis actually had a holographic sight in ww2.
So did the Allies, what's your point?
@@andreivaldez2929 they were actually called reflector sights, the size of a mini red dt sight. Donut reticules too.
Been away from the gym for awhile, been building back up to 220 bench did 2 reps, thanks for the dad advice, needed that
Great video guys, very cool to see that actually being fired!
WHOA WHOA WHOA
GARAND THUMB AND FORGOTTEN WEAPONS POST ABOUT THE SAME WEAPON SYSTEM IN THE SAME HOUR
LETS GOOO
GT: “It never went into general production…”
PSA: “Allow us to introduce ourselves…”
Hahahahah
First the fuckers need to release the STG lmao
KelTec enters the room.
The fact that you got your hands on a piece of history AND got to shoot it is mindblowing.
Amazing vid as always
Absolutely amazing video! I never thought of seeing this device in action. On the other hand, as the thing has a lifetime of around 100 rounds, if I were the owner of it I'm not pretty sure I would have allowed you to use it!
Just a FYI, DemoRanch did a whole show about bent barrels. He bent them himself over and over, more and more bent. Was a very interesting video.
Yep and Mythbusters did an entire episode on bending a barrel years before and it's pretty entertaining as well
@@LucasJackson_37 yep and the Germans did it decades before then and that's pretty interesting
They’re called Peyronies barrels
@@RedPillAlwaysyep and before that archers bent arrows and that's pretty interesting
The breaking up of the bullets was only observed with the higher bend angles (the 90° version for sure). I think the 30° is the only barrel that really didn't fragment.
Can confirm. My piss stream stays solid, and I've got the same angle...
The "Myth Busters" TV show demonstrated how you can progressively bend a barrel all the way to 180 degrees and it still shoots. Yep, they bent a barrel into a U shape so it was actually facing BACK towards the shooter! The bullet only lost about 15 to 20% of its velocity, and IIRC did not break up. I think they cited the German WW2 experiments with the concept. You can find the episode on CZcams under "busting gun myths" or some similar title.
@@zx7-rr486 They did it wiith a .22lr though, a lot less energy to rip through the barrel or fragment the bullet. Matt from Demoliition Ranch shot a few bullets into bent pipes, it definately works, but the more energy the bullet has the more it will erode the barrel. 8mm Kurz isn't a massively energetic cartridge, but still packs more of a punch than most pistols.
Banger video. Wasn't expecting the salt ad.
This is so awesome to watch that thing actually get used! I'm surprised that nobody has replicated it as a novelty item. It would be fun to see a full auto meltdown video with it.
There’s also a surviving example of this rifle in the private collection of the National Firearms Centre in the UK. I had the pleasure of handling and inspecting it about a decade ago.
The Patton Museum that used to exist at Ft. Knox also had one on display back in the 1990s.
Me too but back in the 80’s when it was in Nottingham very unwieldy as I remember
But did you handle these?
Always good seeing Charles in the video
Amazing that you were able to get one. Always wondered how well it worked and you have answered that question. Great content!
Didn’t even know this existed. Awesome for piece of history to be shared to so many. Thank you
WAIT YOURE TELLING ME FUDD LORE ISNT TRUE?!?
Didn't you see the Mythbusters episode when they replicated the "Fudd theory" .. and they actually kinda manage to do it
@@LucasJackson_37 wait actually? Lol that sounds cool
@@LucasJackson_37 No they didn't
the regular scoped stg is such a vibe
Amazing looking piece
Most beautiful assault rifle ever...
The StG-44 was intended to accept a scope mount. Making it the first designated marksman rifle.
one of the best video in a while. good job.
I can't believe how much I'm learning about the history of guns , even though I've been actively collecting them for around 34 years my knowledge wasn't even nearly where I thought it was. Great video.
17:34 - 17:48 - the German gas systems were totally next level
Both were built after the war, too
which gas system?
This one doesn't use wood to seal in the gas
Missed the joke
Yeah the typhus delousing was bitchin'
Price realized on most of these is about $3000-4000. Absolutely crazy considering these only last for a few hundred rounds. Very cool that we get to see how it functions!
The gun Market is the absolute worst of capitalism
Most people who buy them are collectors, they're not going to use them. There are guns that go for $250,000 that the buyers never intend to fire a single time... It's an awesome piece of gun history.
To be honest I thought they'd fetch more than that.
@@Centermass762 honestly, me too.
Brother as always you bring the absolute best content. In my opinion you and Administrative Results always have the best most informative and hilarious videos out there.
Anything STG is a win in my book! Thanks for the video guys.
That start though lol.
Edit Imagine liking a youtube comment L.
I'm his top guy. He put me in charge of a whole panzer division. I'm jacked
Say hello to cohcahcohlah 😂
Only checking in to see what Charles called the Sonoran Desert Institute. This one took the cake. Many thanks.
I think when he said Suspicious Dancing Israelis took the cake
@@pinnaclephotography8535based Charles
Him cracking an egg on a pistol was the most extra thing I've ever seen.
I almost fell over - had no idea he was going to do that. From now on that's how I'm making eggs. I hope my wife and kids are down!
It's so great that you were blessed with the privilege of getting to both use and demonstrate to us this very rare piece of history. This is why your channel rocks!
Within a minute of it posted must be a miracle
You better thank baby jebus
The STG/MP-44 is one of my favourite WW2 platforms. I heard about the Krummlauf a long time ago, but ite effectiveness was never really explained. Kudos to PSA Arms for allowing this device to be used for this video.
This is wild. Such an incredible piece of history on display. WWI and WWII had some cockamamie ideas for weapon tech.
Big thanks to whoever let you shoot that awesome test and view of history
Looks like grand got a one up on brandon Herrera
And I bet Brandon likes it
@@KyleKalevra lol
@@thankfullyredeemedmaderigh7436 now that would be a great cut away gag
I bet let’s go Brandon gets mad just seeing one of these because his fav toy was clearly a rip off of it.
@@30AndHatingIt just aim for the legs with it, c'mon man.
Well, the Germans answered the question “show me the angle of your dangle.”
The angle of the dangle is proportional to the sag of the bag.
The angle of dangle is directly proportional too the heat of the meat.
Thanks for letting us see this! Never imagined I would see one firing
Thanks for taking my advice I left on the m16a4 vid
Them: It's priceless
Me: I'll make that with $20 and a weekend at Lowe's
Wow! Pretty cool! My Dad mentioned something about a bent barreled rifle once when I was a kid. I just added that to all of the crazy stuff a 19 year old kid saw while being a scout in Patton's Third Army. As I got older, I had seen pictures of this but to finally see it fired and given an explanation of how it was SUPPOSED to work was really interesting. Thanks!!
HEY DAMN IT !!! That's extremely interesting. Thanks for posting !
Charles is my favorite part of your vids at this point. Best humor..
A Garand thumb AND a forgotten weapons drop at the same time on the same gun!?! Dope 🤙
I didn’t expect a slight bend in a stg44 when I loaded CZcams
Garand Thumb in an apron is my favorite Garand Thumb.
Props to Gun Jesus for the in-depth look and the referral to your video.
This is the gun that started the trend of all our favorite guns that we know today and the guns that are the closest to the MP44 are the prototype MP45, the CETME, and the HK roller delayed guns and the HK33 being the closest to being the candid modernized MP44.
The American reports of it's performance and problems may have actually been of the M3A1Grease Gun variant they made and tested to see if the idea had any merit. The Russians similarly made PPSh-41 variants to test the idea. Forgotten Weapons' new video on this (released same day) has pictures.
0:03 gdamn that gunshot crack sounds awesome, Hollywood needs to take some sound engineering advice from you guys
What ab awesome video, I can't believe they allowed you to actually shoot it and show it off.
Wow, my German ancestry is starting to make sense
Come, brother, sit at my table, we will drink and talk of our skills in bent weaponry. Word has reached The Fuhrer of your magnificent bend! 🍺
@@SomaticApparition I’m going to need to plead the fifth on that one
@@SomaticApparition😂😂😂😂😂😂 slight curve...😂😂😂😂
Your ancestors tried to save you
@@Sky-qd2mf 🗣️🗣️🗣️
It’s insane how smart the Germans were
Bending a barrel? Their tech is way overhyped!
@@KaptajnKaffe lmao
@KaptajnKaffe calm down XD
Desperation is a mother of all inventions.
I'm sure if they just bent it a little more the war would have ended up differently
Cool to see some obscure and weird firearms being showcased and fired, would hope to see some more in the future, maybe some guns that can fire underwater?
yooo micah getting jacked. keep going bud
They thought of some wild shit in ww2.
The OG CORNER SHOT!!
goosestepping
erika
...fine ill sub
I love the weird stuff yall get to show, Its just amazing what people will try for war
Hey dad, is this also why MY barrel is bent?
Saw this on a uk quiz show called "Qi". But I've never seen it fired. Except for Demo ranch and the bent barrels 😂😂
Doodoo Ranch did that back when he was still shooting 500 pudding cups with a 50 cal
Cool ass piece of history. The corner shots great granddad.
Great video.
15 shots? 7 more the garand TRULY A WUNDERWAFFE
I suddenly want a cooking with Garand Thumb series
They should come out with a pepper grinder that looks like a dynamite plunger!
If I remember correctly, they also had a 60° and 90° barrel as well, but they were quickly dropped due to breaking far quicker than the 30° and 45° barrels. The 90° was meant for their panzers, and would cause the bullets to break apart, limiting the effective range, but turning it into a pseudo shotgun up close. As far as I know, the 30° and 45° didn't break the bullets apart, im not sure about the 60° though.
Just wanna say I love your honesty, that’s special these days