How Many Rounds Will A 400 Dollar AR-15 Last?

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  • čas přidán 2. 03. 2024
  • Join us as we put a $400 rifle to the ultimate test in this intense shooting video. We'll push this budget-friendly firearm to its limits until it begins to show signs of wear and tear. Can a cheap rifle stand up to the challenge, or will it fail to meet expectations? Tune in to find out!
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  • @MulletDestructur
    @MulletDestructur Před 3 měsíci +11640

    Most people don’t need a $3000 rifle. Most people need a $400 rifle with $2600 worth of ammunition.

    • @Im7heon1yone
      @Im7heon1yone Před 3 měsíci +236

      They probably used 20k in 5.56

    • @MulletDestructur
      @MulletDestructur Před 3 měsíci +169

      @@Im7heon1yone not hardly. 5.56 is like $0.45-$0.60/round.

    • @mikerayle6103
      @mikerayle6103 Před 3 měsíci +346

      ​@@MulletDestructur Still spent 3k In ammo on a 400.00 gun doing things it's not expected to do. And they weren't even upset at it. Good job PSA 👏 Test the jackel with an Fn barrel next.

    • @brockstrong451
      @brockstrong451 Před 3 měsíci +43

      People that say this don't train though.

    • @cykeok3525
      @cykeok3525 Před 3 měsíci +190

      Agreed.
      Or to put it another way, if I needed to have a guy back me up, I'd rather have a guy with a $400 rifle who's put in 10x the ammo in training, than a guy with a $3000 rifle who's done 1/10th the training of the first.

  • @willo.2324
    @willo.2324 Před 3 měsíci +7679

    Id just like to point out that for the first time ever on Garand Thumb, he is reviewing an AR15 that I can afford, an AR15 for the poors, an AR15 for the peasants, and Im here for it and will embrace it. This Garand Thumb video is no longer a dream, it's a reality. From myself and the rest of the poors, WE SALUTE YOU

    • @ryanhamstra49
      @ryanhamstra49 Před 3 měsíci +338

      Except that my freedom kit didn’t come with the happy switch, so it’s a semi freedom kit…..

    • @dpchief_216
      @dpchief_216 Před 3 měsíci +61

      Didn’t he review a radical firearms ar15 a while back? That’s a 400-500 dollar rifle right there

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench Před 3 měsíci +176

      @@ryanhamstra49 My brother in Christ--become a machinist. If you can run a lathe, a Bridgeport style vertical mill, a surface grinder, and a drill press you can make almost anything...especially if you know how to weld too.
      And if you can run and program CNC you can really make anything...

    • @snicklefritzd3612
      @snicklefritzd3612 Před 3 měsíci +3

      100

    • @nicholascecil6733
      @nicholascecil6733 Před 3 měsíci +54

      Poor Army Rise!

  • @ChrisDavis-tt1dj
    @ChrisDavis-tt1dj Před 10 dny +79

    I purchased a PSA Freedom rifle and put around 1000 rounds through it in about 2 years. No failures to feed, no jams, no worries. Solid product for the average guy.

  • @brandonh1317
    @brandonh1317 Před 2 měsíci +255

    You guys gained a new subscriber today. No BS review and Asian Mike with precise measurements really breaking down what’s happening to the rifle over longevity. Most gun channels do not go into depth like you guys do. Great video!!!!

    • @Fraederichs
      @Fraederichs Před měsícem +6

      I wish they had made some of the measurements beforehand for comparison.

    • @Lifechanging99999
      @Lifechanging99999 Před měsícem

      I live in the area and have never heard of his company.

    • @willpeifer3976
      @willpeifer3976 Před 22 dny +1

      @brandomh1317 which one was Asian Mike???

  • @stardustmarshtomp3116
    @stardustmarshtomp3116 Před 3 měsíci +5177

    The real hero of this video was the one who took the time to pack all those mags.

    • @thecursed01
      @thecursed01 Před 3 měsíci +118

      since i saw that machine that autoloads mags, i have a new dream :)

    • @kn6vbw
      @kn6vbw Před 3 měsíci +58

      @@thecursed01My dream would be just to keep that machine operating. 😁

    • @seymourwrasse3321
      @seymourwrasse3321 Před 3 měsíci +83

      @@thecursed01 my dream is to be able have the money to buy all these toys

    • @thecursed01
      @thecursed01 Před 3 měsíci

      i have neither the rights nor the income to buy guns anyway. that's why it's a dream @@seymourwrasse3321

    • @joebenson528
      @joebenson528 Před 3 měsíci +34

      @@seymourwrasse3321
      As long as it's not Sig or Knights Armament. They both fund g*n control measures in the US.

  • @TheDersEffect8
    @TheDersEffect8 Před 3 měsíci +3571

    I learned 2 things from this.
    1. PSA is killing it right now
    2. Get a field Asian to diagnosis any weapon malfunctions

    • @Dudemieser
      @Dudemieser Před 3 měsíci +38

      😂❤

    • @theKashConnoisseur
      @theKashConnoisseur Před 3 měsíci +259

      No matter how good you are at something, somewhere there's an Asian teenager that is already way better than you at it.

    • @zacharyk.7350
      @zacharyk.7350 Před 3 měsíci +95

      Asian phill and white Mike

    • @robertkidnley93
      @robertkidnley93 Před 3 měsíci +65

      " and right next to me magazine holder on my duty belt is my battle Asian "

    • @801Self
      @801Self Před 3 měsíci +4

      Why was i thinking the same fuggin thing pahahahahaha

  • @BoiiWonder
    @BoiiWonder Před 2 měsíci +85

    For context, i asked a division armorer about what is within spec for our M4's when i brough a humvee full of ones that needed to be repaired and i shit you not he said "we dont replace M4 barrels unless they are reported to have a MOA above 3". so that means we would have to have our commander state these weapons shoot more than a 3 MOA to replace the barrels.

    • @iiRaptusGaming
      @iiRaptusGaming Před 8 dny +5

      Sounds crazy, but then you remember during WW2, rifles were considered acceptable with 4 MOA (granted that was still on the low end of the usable range back then) nowadays if you got a rifle from the factory with 4 MOA you'd be sending it back.

    • @homeydontplaydat8387
      @homeydontplaydat8387 Před 6 dny

      4 moa is the standard for m885 isn’t it?

    • @BoiiWonder
      @BoiiWonder Před 6 dny

      @@homeydontplaydat8387 In 2017 it was 3. We switched to M855A1 and 3 MOA was still the limit as far as I know. But considering this is big Army it makes sense.

    • @low-keyobserver8539
      @low-keyobserver8539 Před 6 dny

      Don't M4s run a thicker barrel or is that just for socom?

    • @BoiiWonder
      @BoiiWonder Před 6 dny +1

      @@low-keyobserver8539 Garand thumb has a video on the history of it already

  • @timmccurry3687
    @timmccurry3687 Před 2 měsíci +60

    I thank you for this!! My first build was a PSA Stealth 15. I built it for my son, and we have put about 500 rounds through it. It is accurate and fun. This type of testing and review makes us guys that don't do this for a living feel like they are getting a good deal on their hard earned money. I hope you do more of these in the future. This was one of the most informative reviews I have ever seen.

  • @dfall8655
    @dfall8655 Před 3 měsíci +1451

    5k rounds of 5.56 **full auto suppressed** is more use then 95% of folks in their life AND even if you do its warrantied for life by PSA. Outstanding performance for $300

    • @Iberny3
      @Iberny3 Před 3 měsíci +16

      5k is fucki nothing lol

    • @nickbugh1406
      @nickbugh1406 Před 3 měsíci +68

      @@Iberny3they quite literally in this video said that it is.

    • @thadisturbedone1606
      @thadisturbedone1606 Před 3 měsíci +86

      ​@@Iberny3 I've had my ar15 for about a year and have barely shot it lol, I don't think the average gun owner shoots that much

    • @DL-ij7tf
      @DL-ij7tf Před 3 měsíci +58

      Yeah I feel entirely justified in having almost exclusively gone with PSA for my AR stuff. They fired more rounds in a couple days through that AR than I've fired my entire life. Going with PSA has allowed me to get a collection of rifles geared for different purposes/ranges and to arm other members of my family if need be. The odds of anyone ever losing a gunfight, should anyone ever get into one, due to the low cost of their AR rifle, are zero.

    • @ConsensusX
      @ConsensusX Před 3 měsíci +28

      @@Iberny3 I shoot like 100rds/month on my AR. The guys I know shoot about the same or less.

  • @Driveby-Viktum
    @Driveby-Viktum Před 3 měsíci +3781

    $400.00 rifle, 5,000 rounds. After 5k rounds - Replacement 5.56 PSA barrel- $99 bucks. Replacement PSA nitride complete bolt and BCG - $79. 180.00 for 5k more rounds. Value leader, without question.

    • @chiefkeef74
      @chiefkeef74 Před 3 měsíci +255

      I just realized for $600 (400+ the 200 because ATF demands its bribe) i could get a full auto PSA AR. I fuckin love this country

    • @orbyboy123
      @orbyboy123 Před 3 měsíci +166

      By the time one would reach the 5k limit, one can easily put the money towards a better barrel and bcg.

    • @jesseterrell2109
      @jesseterrell2109 Před 3 měsíci +56

      But what if a hoard of taliban come into my town. 😂

    • @BroJacksonTradez
      @BroJacksonTradez Před 3 měsíci +23

      ​@orbyboy123 that's only 20 range trips. That's less than a year

    • @GunnyO326
      @GunnyO326 Před 3 měsíci +149

      @@chiefkeef74 No, you're not. Any machinegun made after May 1986 cannot be possessed by civilians except those that hold dealer and/or manufacturers licenses.

  • @skyjordan117
    @skyjordan117 Před 27 dny +10

    As someone who can't afford boujie ar-15s. $400 for an ar-15 that had no malfunctions until after 3k+ rounds. That sounds like the best deal I've ever heard

  • @jagerbomboi
    @jagerbomboi Před měsícem +53

    35:56 "you couldnt put the targets up straight Charlie?" "There circles...?" LMFAO

  • @ErickaC-mc7vg
    @ErickaC-mc7vg Před 3 měsíci +2188

    Great video. Keep in mind folks, this "budget" PSA upper blasted out 6,000 rounds without an adjustable gas block, run mostly full auto, suppressed, mostly dry and dirty, and it still performed pretty damn well. When used semi auto with regular cleaning and lubing you can easily triple the amount of rounds run through the upper in the video. Most people buying an AR for "just in case", hunting, home defense or SHTF will never run close to 6,000 rounds through their gun. I think this video shows that for the money, and touted as being the "working man's AR", the PSA upper did prove its worth without a doubt, actually cheap for what you get. I think this reflects very well on PSA and is great advertisement for them.

    • @indivisible885
      @indivisible885 Před 3 měsíci +113

      All good points! Hopefully more people see that and understand the value of cleaning and lubrication

    • @Sageofthe16
      @Sageofthe16 Před 3 měsíci +136

      lol, it didn't look shot out to me, needed a cleaning and replacing gas rings. who runs 6k without cleaning a barrel

    • @andrewcarlson2178
      @andrewcarlson2178 Před 3 měsíci +102

      I'd be curious how many people run 6k rounds in a year, much less 2 days with today's ammo prices. Thats $3k in a weekend.

    • @harpintn
      @harpintn Před 3 měsíci +41

      Very good points. My rifles seldom get more than 100 rounds without a good cleaning.

    • @henrychacon7262
      @henrychacon7262 Před 3 měsíci +96

      people only hate on PSA cus its the cool thing to do... never had an issue with any
      \

  • @matthewmorales8184
    @matthewmorales8184 Před 3 měsíci +582

    Something that most people nowadays dont seem to realize, is that mechanical combat accuracy for military rifles until the last 20 years was between 4 and 8 MOA from the factory. Between 1 and 4 MOA the rifle was set aside for sniper use. This was true for everything from Remington rolling blocks, to Mauser 98s, and to M1 Garands
    The fact that a sub 400 dollar rifle is anywhere near 1 to 1.5 MOA is nothing short of amazing and a feat of modern manufacturing

    • @carmisti
      @carmisti Před 3 měsíci +20

      Well said

    • @theblitz6838
      @theblitz6838 Před 3 měsíci +22

      Aah, back in the day when "accuracy through volume" was the norm.

    • @TheTyrial86
      @TheTyrial86 Před 3 měsíci +34

      ​@@theblitz6838
      That's still the case in modern times. Crew serves are the battlefield king. Pin the enemy down while you out maneuver them or hit them with kamikaze drones.

    • @REDACTED_shenanigans
      @REDACTED_shenanigans Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@theblitz6838western doctrine is fundamentally build upon fire superiority, which comes down to slinging more lead downrange then your opponent. Also one of the reasons the west went towards intermediate cartridges instead of the oldschool battle rifle calibers

    • @MagDumpMafia101
      @MagDumpMafia101 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I think what Colt was aiming for with the M16/M4 platforms was 3 MOA. I can’t be sure though.

  • @danielgranda896
    @danielgranda896 Před 2 měsíci +19

    Great video! Thank you Phil for bringing the blueprints and the science! Crazy how much that rifle took before it was done.

  • @Maelstrom9695
    @Maelstrom9695 Před měsícem +6

    Came looking for answers on my PSA, and you nailed them exactly. Thank you. New subscriber.

  • @tylerwilliams1882
    @tylerwilliams1882 Před 3 měsíci +2728

    $400 gun survived over $3000 worth of ammo before it started falling off. That's very impressive to me. Most people who buy these will never run that many rounds.

    • @SNKNostalgia
      @SNKNostalgia Před 3 měsíci +62

      But for me... it was Tuesday!

    • @SNKNostalgia
      @SNKNostalgia Před 3 měsíci +29

      Ammo is cheap. Found some reloads in my dead father's basement.

    • @Candyman757
      @Candyman757 Před 3 měsíci +177

      Nor will they run them anywhere near this hard and fast.

    • @tylerwilliams1882
      @tylerwilliams1882 Před 3 měsíci +129

      @Candyman757 We had a PSA PA-15 on our gun range, and it survived a few years of abuse and many thousands of rounds from the public. We had it sent back under warranty fixed like new.

    • @scripteaze
      @scripteaze Před 3 měsíci +71

      @@SNKNostalgia You had to say dead? You couldn't just say, "My father's basement" RIP

  • @THATMOFODIRT
    @THATMOFODIRT Před 2 měsíci +1765

    I’m sold.
    I do like Palmetto’s mission statement, “SELL AS MANY GUNS TO AS MANY LAW-ABIDING AMERICANS AS POSSIBLE.”

    • @StevenL00
      @StevenL00 Před 2 měsíci +19

      They say that except they won't even bother selling to MA or DC, as behind the enemy lines as these 2 are that's just not cool.

    • @mithril1584
      @mithril1584 Před 2 měsíci +91

      @@StevenL00MA and DC residents need to fight for their rights first.

    • @Killiri
      @Killiri Před 2 měsíci

      Why would you expect them to do something illegal that can have an affect on their ability to even make guns ​@@StevenL00

    • @daveonezero6258
      @daveonezero6258 Před 2 měsíci

      Assert your rights and maybe they will ship there again. @@StevenL00

    • @konnerkramer329
      @konnerkramer329 Před 2 měsíci +80

      ​@@StevenL00don't blame PSA for that blame the law makers in those cities and states

  • @mynamejosh5536
    @mynamejosh5536 Před 2 měsíci +8

    "Hilariously acceptable" that was amazing

  • @EricF-bh2zr
    @EricF-bh2zr Před 2 měsíci +4

    Just wanted to say you do the best comps and tests, I'm a big brandon Herrera fan, you wear the crap out, and big fan of your range and scenery, keep rolling brother, I've got a ton of pieces that I'd love to throw through your tests....

  • @KirShizzle
    @KirShizzle Před 3 měsíci +1536

    Hey man, this comment might get lost but the technical review, borescoping, and gauging really made this video stand out and provide much more value above the "lemme shoot my AR15 til it catches fire" videos. Great content.

    • @christopherdryden1254
      @christopherdryden1254 Před 3 měsíci +42

      It was the best part of the whole video. Most of the time I watch these and just end up having to explain to my wife my spending of money. This time I felt like I genuinely learned something, and feel a bit better about telling my wife I spent more money.

    • @maverick00084
      @maverick00084 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Agreed!

    • @Markyymark662
      @Markyymark662 Před 3 měsíci +11

      Your comment will never get lost. Gobbless

    • @charlieghague
      @charlieghague Před 3 měsíci +12

      If you like it go check out School of the American Rifle. Chad probably taught the Asian guy everything he did. He gauges everything and will really show you what you don't know.

    • @zmbombr
      @zmbombr Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yeah love that geeky Asian Phil dude and the 411...every gunfighter should be a nerd about his tool and know wtf is going on in there...

  • @ugo445
    @ugo445 Před 3 měsíci +1403

    Budget firearm videos are superior top tier content

    • @justinroubique1473
      @justinroubique1473 Před 3 měsíci +7

      so superior i may buy a shitbox because they had fun at our expense.

    • @chadherrera704
      @chadherrera704 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Why? Just curious.

    • @jonathanhassell818
      @jonathanhassell818 Před 3 měsíci +5

      I'd be curious to see how the M&P stacks up.

    • @lordfarquaadgaming9316
      @lordfarquaadgaming9316 Před 3 měsíci +24

      @@chadherrera704cause most people can easily afford it and everyone knows the 2000$ Daniel defense is going to be good, but what about the far cheaper option? Most people don’t know

    • @joejones1991
      @joejones1991 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I thought I was the only one

  • @TheSheridanbrenton
    @TheSheridanbrenton Před 19 dny +1

    Great video! I like seeing more budget friendly firearms tests. Great job guys;)

  • @taylorbunch7825
    @taylorbunch7825 Před měsícem +4

    Love the weekends, always waiting patiently for my garandthumb notification! Now Micha too! 😅ever b4 him! You fella got me thru to long term relationships burning down. And learned a hell of a lot too. So many of my friends are jealous of your jobs/ and experience. N I ALWAYS learn something. I was army infantry 06'-12'. A few deployments, was fortunate enough to get a slot at armory school, so I'm always super into learning older stuff, and in love w/ the new & exciting stuff coming now & future. Incorporating what I can w/ what I have & what's coming down now! Thanks for what you bring, honest careful consideration. Hehe & you seem to dig shit I do😅 and you share it in awesome ways. Thanks fellas

  • @vwtdi1579
    @vwtdi1579 Před 3 měsíci +220

    Putting arms that work in the hands of those with less means is a moral good for a nation.

  • @lilben7553
    @lilben7553 Před 3 měsíci +967

    “Thank you Asian Phil”
    “You’re welcome, White Mike “
    😂😂😂

    • @Bexar_Arms
      @Bexar_Arms Před 3 měsíci +44

      😂😂🫡🫡

    • @Dennisthemenace40
      @Dennisthemenace40 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Now, that’s funny!!😂

    • @FLMAN3366
      @FLMAN3366 Před 3 měsíci +11

      ​@Bexar_Arms we need more Phil!

    • @shadowman8787
      @shadowman8787 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I was picking myself up off the floor after that one!!!! LOL

    • @helmsman3082
      @helmsman3082 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Phil was hilarious and really know his stuff.

  • @mbigatti
    @mbigatti Před měsícem +6

    Perfect summation @47:49 -- Not perfect, but not bad. Great testing. If the barrel shows wear after 4K rounds then replace the it after 4K rounds. You can do that >5x before coming close to the price of the rifle this was compared to.

  • @ATRiLeGeNDzZo
    @ATRiLeGeNDzZo Před měsícem +9

    The full auto suppressed mag dumps give me The Division flashbacks and how much it took to kill enemies

  • @lanceroberthough1275
    @lanceroberthough1275 Před 3 měsíci +1458

    Running so much suppressed and auto without proper maintenance (clean and lube) is way beyond what 99% of shooters are ever going to put an AR through. As a certified armorer I am impressed. I've been using PSA parts in good, affordable builds for years.

    • @sbentsen2714
      @sbentsen2714 Před 3 měsíci +19

      yup for sure

    • @DB-yj3qc
      @DB-yj3qc Před 3 měsíci +72

      Yes, lubrication is the killer for many parts as in lack of. I've seen top name brand AR's fail due to lack of lubrication at times within a magazine of ammo. Many times with brand new M16a2 and then later with M-4 carbines. Just from zeroing then jamming up on qualifications. That is 12 rnds to zero then 40 for qualification. Many didn't "want the rifles to get dirty" when I would be running qualifications ranges I would have a few 1 qt spay bottles of CLP then douse the bolt carrer down with a generous spray. Something I learned from shooting M2 50 cal back during "Cold War time" in Germany. Damn I'm old now after having been issued M16a1 though M4a1.. 😳

    • @zx7-rr486
      @zx7-rr486 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Just curious .. how are they getting a full auto version?

    • @ChickenPaulYT
      @ChickenPaulYT Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@zx7-rr486 I'm not 100% sure, but it could be a forced reset trigger. They might have said how they did it, but I just wasn't paying attention

    • @TheRealDebH
      @TheRealDebH Před 3 měsíci

      @@zx7-rr486 I believe you can get a stamp for it. Pretty sure if you're military, it's easier.

  • @imfamousdragon8766
    @imfamousdragon8766 Před 3 měsíci +275

    I bought a psa AR-15 a couple years ago. The guys in the store told me they made choice decisions to make sure it would be basically the BEST CHEAP AR-15 and this video has proved to me that they were not full of bs, those words are in fact reality

    • @davidferreras3101
      @davidferreras3101 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Wait so question which set up is this one in PSA?

    • @Im-the-greatest
      @Im-the-greatest Před 3 měsíci

      I got the freedom upper it works pretty well for what it is

  • @codylongyear5643
    @codylongyear5643 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Those close shots with the low music all mic volume😍😍 love to hear the crack in the background

  • @SgtNuker
    @SgtNuker Před 2 měsíci +12

    Gotta love Charlie coming in clutch with the "SDI" meanings. This one was an insta-classic.

  • @treywesley958
    @treywesley958 Před 3 měsíci +478

    For $400-500 for a rifle, 5k rounds before it starts to degrade rapidly is absolutely freaking excellent. Anywhere near 2 MOA after 4000 rounds, for a gun that wasn't being consistently cleaned, had no new real major parts changed out, AND was being shot full auto and suppressed is awesome at this price point. This gun was definitely punching above is weight.
    I'm not trying to make a case that this is better than more expensive rifles, but if you have this gun this let's me know you can run it with confidence.
    Thanks a ton for putting this together for everyone!

    • @The_Draque
      @The_Draque Před 3 měsíci +26

      It proves that with $1500+ ARs you are mostly paying just for the brand name. There are some small innovations with feed ramps, extractors, and gas blocks that type of thing but for the money not worth it

    • @thystaff742
      @thystaff742 Před 3 měsíci +47

      The CEO of PSA said the quite part out loud when he revealed that the more expensive brands just charge more for their name. He stated this on a GOA podcast.

    • @crimsintigerx2837
      @crimsintigerx2837 Před 3 měsíci +12

      Apparently they used to or still do get their barrels from FN not sure how true that is today but my Freedom upper I got from them for like 180$ is seriously accurate and it's not free floated

    • @Coonhound719
      @Coonhound719 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@crimsintigerx2837 so only there premium chromed lined rifle barrels are FN from my knowledge, I own a few of them and they shoot .3 groups with hand load 77g smks!!

    • @LavitosExodius
      @LavitosExodius Před 3 měsíci +20

      @@crimsintigerx2837 that's mostly their higher grade guns. The lower grade guns are their own barrels as psa does have the ability to make most of the stuff in house. That being said 400 bucks for 5k rounds that's not bad. Especially when you factor in you can send it to PSA for warranty. Sure won't work in SHTF situation but if you go through 5k rounds and your still alive in that situation well you've probably picked up several more rifles along the way.

  • @aigtbootbp
    @aigtbootbp Před 3 měsíci +447

    Asian Phil is definitely a good addition. The tech breakdown was very informative. Bring him on whenever you do a serious detailed analysis of a firearm.

  • @sraldiris
    @sraldiris Před měsícem

    very educational video. Thank you. Phil's insight was a great supplement.

  • @davidlindsey6303
    @davidlindsey6303 Před měsícem

    This is the best most comprehensive torture test video I’ve ever seen. Would love to see a whole series dedicated to this kind of analysis

  • @theoriginal11charlie
    @theoriginal11charlie Před 3 měsíci +861

    Garand Thumb“We are not here to burn this rifle down.” “Alright we are at 3000 rounds let’s continue to burn it down.”

    • @blueconverse8265
      @blueconverse8265 Před 3 měsíci +8

      😂

    • @raulg.6643
      @raulg.6643 Před 3 měsíci +39

      No I didn’t put my shoes on no man couch I got more common sense then that…yea I put my feet on his couch. Cocaine is a hell of a drug. - Rick James

    • @gunztommiegunz
      @gunztommiegunz Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@raulg.6643😂

    • @Banefulailment
      @Banefulailment Před 2 měsíci

      They were letting it cool all the way down after every 2-3 mags he says that at the end

    • @scottedwards3403
      @scottedwards3403 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@Banefulailmentexcept we’ll see a shit ton of mags get dropped and the daylight/ clothes are the same. I highly doubt they “let the rifle cool all the way back down” the math don’t math with the timeframe

  • @norcalrizzo
    @norcalrizzo Před 3 měsíci +589

    As a machinist of 27 years, i appreciate Phils perspective. Getting actual numbers for the tolerances, really puts the wear into perspective. Thanks dudes, another awesome vid!

    • @Bexar_Arms
      @Bexar_Arms Před 3 měsíci +59

      Happy to have been invited out and bring tools out to put some numbers on parts!

    • @mariodcreatorgaming8236
      @mariodcreatorgaming8236 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@Bexar_ArmsI’ve been wanting one of your BCGs for so long why are they sold out 😭

    • @richardcranium2581
      @richardcranium2581 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Trailer park psa m4 won lol

    • @Bexar_Arms
      @Bexar_Arms Před 3 měsíci

      @@mariodcreatorgaming8236 I got C158 BCG’s in stock right now!

    • @edwinlongwell
      @edwinlongwell Před 3 měsíci +10

      Should check out School of the American Rifle. He does a really good job of gauging rifles.

  • @SlyNation
    @SlyNation Před měsícem +2

    Ive watched a ton of torture tests, and most just throw a few thousand rounds down range and say 'yea it works'. This video shows how its supposed to be done. Really liked seeing the components taken apart and measured.

  • @brianpresto1446
    @brianpresto1446 Před měsícem

    Wow you guys really dug deep on this one. Great job!

  • @someonesomewheresomdeday
    @someonesomewheresomdeday Před 3 měsíci +977

    $3000 worth of ammo through a $400 upper. Hard to argue with the value there.

    • @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
      @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO Před 3 měsíci +15

      $300 upper. $400 Rifle (according to them).

    • @brendanberry7403
      @brendanberry7403 Před 3 měsíci +11

      $500 on sale from what I saw for the rifle.

    • @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
      @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@brendanberry7403 - I have never seen an AR cheaper than that $500 mark (retail). Which means the retailer/ FFL is making 50% of that at least I would guess.

    • @RIpped_407
      @RIpped_407 Před 3 měsíci +22

      DB15 is 450.00 .
      And I challenge any ANY Gucci gun 2500.00 plus. To the exact same challenge with the exact same shooting conditions. No cleaning,suppressed,full auto etc. Bet it doesn't last either.

    • @brendanberry7403
      @brendanberry7403 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Where do you see them for $450? Found an online site for $470 but it’s not counting their $20 handling fee, shipping and then the FFL fee. That can be $20-100 depending on where you go.
      I see they have a rural king exclusive, so not sure if you mean them if they discount them that much. Closest one to me is about 40 miles away so I typically forget they exist lol. They show $650 right now which is what I paid for my M&P.

  • @micahchristie7104
    @micahchristie7104 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Great video, would love to see y’all test their new Sabre Billet (or forged) would love to see the quality difference from the same company. Cheers and stay safe boys.

  • @englishstone340
    @englishstone340 Před měsícem

    Damn good video!! Hit on the subject I have been tuned into for years! Definitely helped make decisions on future purchases…

  • @TheGonzorelic
    @TheGonzorelic Před 2 měsíci +806

    the great thing about PSA is after 6k rounds you can spend $200 and get a brand new upper and youre ready for 6k more rounds.

    • @maximilianmustermann5763
      @maximilianmustermann5763 Před měsícem +81

      They should have chemically cleaned the barrel and tested it again. I mean it's not been cleaned for 6K rounds in mostly full-auto with a suppressor. The excessive heat makes the fouling even worse and the copper residue in the barrel was massive.

    • @Rambonii
      @Rambonii Před měsícem +5

      This rifle is also probly sent from factory to them cherry picking is a thing

    • @chrisdefonte9441
      @chrisdefonte9441 Před měsícem +29

      You might not even need to spend $200. I think they have a lifetime warranty...

    • @Thatguy-uk4ue
      @Thatguy-uk4ue Před měsícem +16

      Nah just send it in for warranty

    • @TheGonzorelic
      @TheGonzorelic Před měsícem +6

      @@Thatguy-uk4ue shipping costs money. Ffl costs money. Warranty takes time. Just go buy an upper for $200.

  • @trey0001069760
    @trey0001069760 Před 2 měsíci +684

    Micah: "You couldn't even put the targets up straight Charlie?"
    Charlie: *"They're circles"*

  • @dirtycommtroop
    @dirtycommtroop Před měsícem +2

    What a great video. It's now confirmed what is expected out of PSA's bottom tier 16" barrel and BCG. I bought one of their 16" rifles with the OD MOE furniture for $450 a few months ago. Its a beautiful back-to-basics rifle not loaded with accessories and camo spray paint. Every law abiding American should own one.

  • @alyx5213
    @alyx5213 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I like that there’s no hate to the idea of buying what you can afford. I just got my first, an Anderson AM15 utility, threw some stuff on it, bought 1k rounds to get me started. I’ve shot it twice now, and I love it. My thinking is that I keep hold on to the lower, grips, red dot, sling, etc, and eventually upgrade my upper and internals. I had to start small to see if it’s truly something I want to get into, and found out I love it 🫡 I already knew I loved guns though, and was more familiar with handguns

  • @Ridonkulous05
    @Ridonkulous05 Před 3 měsíci +886

    Phil is a phenomenal addition to the channel. He did an incredible job, and the comedic chemistry between Garand Thumb and Phil is amazing. More of Phil on the channel, please!

    • @Porch412
      @Porch412 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Nah

    • @neo4102
      @neo4102 Před 3 měsíci +23

      @@Porch412 no likey asians? Me love them long time lol

    • @grrttshw
      @grrttshw Před 3 měsíci +66

      Bro when Mike goes, "thank you, asian Phil" he hit back instantly with, "You're welcome white Mike" sealed the deal. He was super insightful. Loved the info.

    • @randysalvaje512
      @randysalvaje512 Před 3 měsíci

      Yea no…. That was way too much

    • @MattWaller04
      @MattWaller04 Před 3 měsíci +26

      @@randysalvaje512you got soft hands brother

  • @nooblangpoo
    @nooblangpoo Před 3 měsíci +403

    >full auto
    >silenced
    >near freezing temps
    >no cleaning in ALL the 6K+ rounds
    Yeah I'd say that that's the stress test and 95 percent of the users won't do since they would at least clean it and lube it every 1k.

    • @shalafi71
      @shalafi71 Před 3 měsíci

      How is he rocking full auto? Or at least simulating it?

    • @tiktokshorts7666
      @tiktokshorts7666 Před 3 měsíci

      he most likely has an ffl and was able to alter it@@shalafi71

    • @lizardpeter
      @lizardpeter Před 3 měsíci +16

      @@shalafi71Just buy a full auto lower.

    • @Karmaplays824
      @Karmaplays824 Před 3 měsíci +2

      How and where?​@@lizardpeter

    • @lizardpeter
      @lizardpeter Před 3 měsíci

      @@Karmaplays824 Many states in the USA. Just search them up online and look for auctions.

  • @vernonframpton9424
    @vernonframpton9424 Před měsícem

    Very awesome to hear all the technical things with BCG

  • @digitalgoonie
    @digitalgoonie Před 17 dny

    Man. What a great video! Thanks!

  • @Joneybara
    @Joneybara Před 3 měsíci +257

    PSA is simply doing gods work. Arming the common man with a rifle that in almost every aspect will never make it to this round count yet it can still handle it.

    • @mattutubematt
      @mattutubematt Před 3 měsíci +11

      It me. I’m common man

    • @c2dholla
      @c2dholla Před 3 měsíci +5

      Very good for what the future holds.

    • @CouchVet0431
      @CouchVet0431 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Exactly, and they are running it with very adverse conditions, and it held up for that many rounds. PSA gained a fan boy today.

  • @SuLu_B
    @SuLu_B Před 3 měsíci +625

    This rifle NEEDS to be good. Having something like this available for the price is the whole point of the 2A

    • @nateburns5933
      @nateburns5933 Před 3 měsíci +67

      And PSA's CEO said that's his purpose and he is an awesome man for that! My super hero!

    • @smokingcrab2290
      @smokingcrab2290 Před 3 měsíci +47

      It is good. People who think budget AR's are bad are like people who buy a Toyota camry and drive it into a pole and say "oh no it doesn't work anymore, I guess it's just a bad car". Take care of it same way you'd take care of any gun and it'll run how you need.

    • @PilotEricG
      @PilotEricG Před 3 měsíci

      @@nateburns5933yeah, he claims to make the best for the cheapest price. He knows the price of all the parts at factory price. He just isn’t price gouging everyone

    • @scronk4486
      @scronk4486 Před 3 měsíci +2

      The 2A does not cater to poors.

    • @MrRAGE-md5rj
      @MrRAGE-md5rj Před 3 měsíci +8

      Worth every penny.

  • @TheSelfeDestruct
    @TheSelfeDestruct Před 27 dny

    I learned a lot on this one, especially about the inner workings and wear specs of an AR bolt assembly.

  • @chrisswaim3798
    @chrisswaim3798 Před měsícem

    Amen to this. I’ve had budget rifles in the past and that’s no problem. You work your way up . I upgraded to a BCM and I will never go back, but I never forgot my roots!

  • @bigirish8812
    @bigirish8812 Před 2 měsíci +628

    So what I'm hearing, "A PSA rifle will kill "something" just as well as someone's $5k Gucci gun."

    • @JohnDoe-mt8rf
      @JohnDoe-mt8rf Před 2 měsíci +7

      Yea

    • @american236
      @american236 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Yes. We’ve been getting ripped off on the $1,500-$2,500 guns.

    • @king_tv2204
      @king_tv2204 Před 2 měsíci +3

      That and some Gucci companies *cough H&K cough* have absolutely dog shit customer service

    • @generalgreevus8773
      @generalgreevus8773 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@king_tv2204 HK hasn't put a modern firearm on the US market for like 40 years

    • @king_tv2204
      @king_tv2204 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@generalgreevus8773 hk 23 made in the 90s but yeah seem a few people that had some issue with it on gun pages, said they’re shit people and say it’s something they did is why the gun is broken

  • @HistoriaAlive
    @HistoriaAlive Před 3 měsíci +415

    Mike's not pregnant but he always delivers

    • @crispy_338
      @crispy_338 Před 3 měsíci +7

      He’s a shooter of targets and seed

    • @Grey_Fox_Six
      @Grey_Fox_Six Před 3 měsíci +6

      Bro got big. I need to work out

    • @elvindejesus8584
      @elvindejesus8584 Před 3 měsíci +1

      So he is Gynecologist

    • @haroldfarquad6886
      @haroldfarquad6886 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Grey_Fox_Six his dad advice a couple months ago "get ape shit fuck jacked" really stuck with me and it helped me get back in the gym.

  • @je__.
    @je__. Před 4 dny

    great video!! well done gentlemen

  • @Redbond88
    @Redbond88 Před 27 dny

    Also looks like someone has been bulking! Kind of a surprise as someone who skips around your vids, but I respect the gains my man. love the channel, love the content, please keep it coming!

  • @Malefactor
    @Malefactor Před 3 měsíci +773

    Love the pairing of a $1,200 optic for the $400 rifle.

  • @ijust8sam
    @ijust8sam Před 3 měsíci +943

    So what I’m hearing is buy more PSA rifles. You can own 7 for the price of a “real” rifle. With proper maintenance, fired unsuppressed, and semi-auto these rifles will last. A lifetime warranty included, American made rifle for everyone is exactly what we need.

    • @meshuggahbingus8260
      @meshuggahbingus8260 Před 3 měsíci +27

      Yeah that works until you get 4 out of those 7 rifles being pieces of trash from the factory.
      PSA still has major issues with QC, I agree with garand thumb in saying I like where PSA comes from but it's not particularly something that's viable, especially when you can get a SOLGW or BCM stripped lower and build it yourself for the same price range.

    • @GryphonArmorer
      @GryphonArmorer Před 3 měsíci +64

      That’s pretty much what I’m hearing. With proper maintenance, like you are required to do in the military, it should last a regular person a lifetime... even in SHTF scenario.

    • @drunkenmick
      @drunkenmick Před 3 měsíci +71

      @@meshuggahbingus8260 Have you been in the military? These rifles, especially with a regular maintenance schedule, will last and do better than the typical military rifle.

    • @kamron_thurmond
      @kamron_thurmond Před 3 měsíci +6

      Or buy 4 Diamondbacks.

    • @user-ty5di3ku6o
      @user-ty5di3ku6o Před 3 měsíci +2

      What you heard was it is almost decent...

  • @conman1240
    @conman1240 Před 2 měsíci

    this was one of the most fascinating videos ever. delving into the machining specs was awesome

    • @hairydogstail
      @hairydogstail Před měsícem

      Yup, he is a good imitator of Chad from the School of the American rifle..

  • @Aaron-wt4fx
    @Aaron-wt4fx Před měsícem

    Fantastic video as usual from the best guntube channel out there!

  • @George-vf7ss
    @George-vf7ss Před 3 měsíci +1020

    I took a rather expensive shooting class from a school we see on CZcams all the time. The 1st instructor informed me that most people that come here don't bring a 500 dollar rifle with a 300 dollar scope. I told him, "I did." I shot better than 80% of all the other students, and never had an issue with my equipment. Two 5,000 dollar guns broke down, and one 7,000 gun broke down.
    For the final exam of the run and gun on multiple targets, I was the only one to clear the course with no misses. I'm in my early 70's and my suggestion is, purchase a less expensive gun, and spend the money on ammo and practice time. Practice, practice, practice.

    • @saltyexxer8253
      @saltyexxer8253 Před 3 měsíci +69

      From what I've experienced, the average guy who isn't competing in target shooting of some kind can't shoot as accurately as their equipment will allow, regardless of what they spent on the rifle.

    • @uwesca6263
      @uwesca6263 Před 3 měsíci +46

      Its funny how often i tell my customers to spend a few hundred bucks less on a gun and doing the same on the scope and reinvest every cent into ammo and train with it, and how nearly noone ever pays attention to it.
      Instead they buy extremly expensive firearms that rarely see 400 bucks worth of ammo.

    • @Buletspunge555
      @Buletspunge555 Před 3 měsíci +24

      I had a very similar experience with a traveling seal instructor a few years ago. Of course he has 20/20 vision. When he looked through my budget LVPO, he just about had a heart attack. I have very bad eyes and wear corrective lenses, so of course it was all blurry for him. He really kind of shit on my optic package right there in front of me. But later in the class, I was able to shoot a cleaner run that almost everyone else with way more name brand gear.

    • @Buletspunge555
      @Buletspunge555 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@saltyexxer8253 yup. In my experience, for some reason, people struggle more with producing accurate rifle fire than they do with pistols. I've seen it in classes and in competitions. It's a strange phenomenon.

    • @Buletspunge555
      @Buletspunge555 Před 3 měsíci +21

      @uwesca6263 a close friend was spending emergency prep funds on his shooting setup a little while back. His wife had blessed it, so it was rare. He had a stash of ammo and a kitted out long gun. When asking me what armor he should buy with his 1k, I advised him to go take a rifle class first. He has no real-world experience at all. Did he listen to me? Nope. Bunch of armor gathering dust in his closet. He never wears it and still hasn't learned to run his rifle. People think they can buy skill too often.

  • @adamg574
    @adamg574 Před 3 měsíci +233

    White Mike & Asian Phil sounds like a dope rap duo stage name.

    • @Bexar_Arms
      @Bexar_Arms Před 3 měsíci +28

      Dropping our EP soon ™️

    • @mastershaw3094
      @mastershaw3094 Před 3 měsíci

      lol sounds dorky, don’t go there

    • @camilams1080
      @camilams1080 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I'm an Asian Phil, hey!

    • @213chewy
      @213chewy Před 3 měsíci

      ⁠@@mastershaw3094 no it doesn’t, it sounds awesome

    • @adamg574
      @adamg574 Před 3 měsíci

      @@mastershaw3094 you’ve obviously never heard of the legendary MC Miker G and DJ Sven.

  • @AstroFirearms
    @AstroFirearms Před 16 dny +2

    My 300 blackout pistol is PSA. I love it and it’s super reliable. $400

  • @astronwolf
    @astronwolf Před 3 měsíci +408

    Now to make the test complete, do the same thing with a "good" AR-15 upper.

    • @leonvanderliner
      @leonvanderliner Před 3 měsíci +54

      Exactly that's what I feel was missing from this video. Granted, they can't do every rifle, but doing the same thing apples to apples with the PSA then a "mid" upper, then premium upper would have been more illuminating.

    • @jasonlaird2744
      @jasonlaird2744 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Amen.

    • @scripteaze
      @scripteaze Před 3 měsíci +5

      Whats a good upper? I want to build my own and i need a list of parts ill need. Does the lower even matter? Which parts would you choose to build a nice ar 15?

    • @nSquared75
      @nSquared75 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@scripteazeDepends on how you define “good” and the type of ammo you’re shooting. For a complete upper, there are tons of premium uppers from the likes of Daniel Defense, Bravo Company, Knights Armament, and the list goes on… Colt would be considered mid-end. Much of it depends on things like barrel twist rate, depending on the grain of the bullets being sent, suppressed vs not…… Too many variables in the equation. That’s why custom builds can be tricky. If you’re just going with your run of the mill mil-spec 55 or 62 grain ammo, then you’re often not getting the benefit of some of the more expensive upper setups.
      Edit: The lower takes far less abuse so, you can go much cheaper. However, your tolerances with how the upper mates with the lower can come into play that can factor in many ways. Some may fit loose and have wobble and improper fitment with the upper. This can bring forth some issue when having Frankenstein builds. Sometimes it’s best to buy a decent mid grade complete rifle and, upgrade things like the trigger group, bcg, and barrel, buffer tube/spring to the specs that you desire.

    • @ProbInsane
      @ProbInsane Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@scripteazeBCM is the go to for higher tier builds. Aero Precision is a pretty good mid-tier option IMO. There's a lot of things that go into durability and reliability with ARs but if anything do not cheap out on your upper.

  • @michaeldixon3562
    @michaeldixon3562 Před 3 měsíci +290

    In a civilian self defense situation if you're laying down auto suppressive fire, Things have severely went left and most definitely "HIT THE FAN"

    • @lithium1770
      @lithium1770 Před 3 měsíci +39

      that's the whole fucking point

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Před 3 měsíci +16

      Thanks Biden

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Před 3 měsíci +18

      ​@@lithium1770yeah you gotta explain everything nowadays to toddlers.

    • @sebastiancleveland727
      @sebastiancleveland727 Před 3 měsíci

      yes thaat would mean the fecal matter has hit the propeller.
      Thats why the 2nd Amandent was written.

    • @stoops187
      @stoops187 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@lithium1770right?

  • @jimjones395
    @jimjones395 Před měsícem +3

    My first AR (and the only one i have now) is a flat top high standard i paid like $700 for about 18 ish yrs ago. It wore a slide stock for a couple 2 or 3 K rnds along with another K or 2 of just shooting regular and it will do 1" 3 shot groups at 100 yds with the reflex sight thats on it. By the time i fixed up the flat top with sights and stuff i prob had $1000 in it. Also the sights been there the whole time and its cheap too. I paid like a buck twenny for it and it still works great too.
    Id rather have 2 $1000 guns than 1 $2000 gun

  • @AonGuardian
    @AonGuardian Před 2 měsíci

    The shots off the minibike with epic music in the back

  • @Chilly_Billy
    @Chilly_Billy Před 3 měsíci +439

    We need more Phil on this channel. He's a warehouse of technical knowledge combined with the personality of a truly nice guy.
    Kudos to PSA for building a rifle that almost anyone can afford and still run without thorough maintenance for more rounds than most AR's will ever see in a lifetime.

    • @buckaroobonsi555
      @buckaroobonsi555 Před 3 měsíci +17

      I think if maintence was done more often it would have done ever better!

    • @Grief_Bacon762
      @Grief_Bacon762 Před 3 měsíci +6

      yes more Phil, I learned so much in this one

    • @XPsychowaffleX
      @XPsychowaffleX Před 3 měsíci +10

      ​@@buckaroobonsi555and that's the thing, you'd HOPE people do more maintenance than this, so it definitely leans on the extreme side of tests. BUT. there are guns that hold up under worst torture. So it's a good area to explore durability and abuse in a short amount of time

    • @abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963
      @abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963 Před 3 měsíci +3

      All this Phil knowledge is simply school of the american rifle knowledge transfers from shad. You'd think they'd give a shout out

  • @chrischapman280
    @chrischapman280 Před 3 měsíci +622

    I would argue that the barrel is not shot out because It isn’t shooting keyholes yet. That thing had a ton of carbon fouling in it. I think if all of the hard carbon was removed and the barrel was stripped to bare metal that it would shoot better than 5” or 6” groups. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’d love to give it a go.
    Edit: After stripping the barrel I’d also change the springs, add new gas rings to the bolt and let ‘er buck! Pros to PSA for making an affordable product for the 2A community. Thanks GT Team for the excellent video!

    • @ciro79
      @ciro79 Před 3 měsíci +50

      Car engine wear in normal exopatation and race is not the same.Racing burn engines for one hour.For some taxi driver same engine can last half bilion miles.Same thing is with gun barrel.They does not wear,they burn.If that barrrel last 5000 rounds in these extreme fulll auto test,that barrel would last 100K rounds for some hunter who shoots cold barrel mostly.

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger Před 3 měsíci +14

      ​@@smithsmithersen1646
      I wouldn't even worry about lifespan on a home D system. I'd worry about reliability and size. Bigger hurts reaction time in all sorts of ways.
      If you're in Korengal Valley, you take something that engages 600 yards. If you're in your house, you take a PDW, imo.

    • @madhatter6913
      @madhatter6913 Před 3 měsíci +56

      The carbon is a problem but maybe not as much as the copper fouling when it comes to accuracy. There was so much copper in the barrel oxidizing it turned blue. So if they used some very serious copper remover and cleaned the snot out of it there is a good possibility the accuracy would have improved dramatically over the last group. I don’t care how expensive the upper costs if it is full of carbon and copper it isn’t going to group well at all.

    • @user-zd6me1ye4k
      @user-zd6me1ye4k Před 3 měsíci +18

      Very true @Madhatter
      I was very impressed with the extreme conditions this barrel was put through. I have the nice stuff too. But I put the Freedom barrels through hell 😂. A second video with the copper fowling removed would be very interesting to see.

    • @jeremyjones9935
      @jeremyjones9935 Před 3 měsíci +25

      It was a good video… until
      The end. Maybe try cleaning the damn thing, then run it again.

  • @user-oe4oj8mw5n
    @user-oe4oj8mw5n Před měsícem

    Always get “happy” and comical information from your channel “ love y’all, mean it!”

  • @MrShawnob
    @MrShawnob Před měsícem

    Wow I haven’t watched Garand Thumb in a few years and he was crazy jacked now!!!

  • @larrypelrine1799
    @larrypelrine1799 Před 3 měsíci +175

    Give props to PSA for making a $300 complete upper that could handle 6k+ rounds. What kind of makes me scratch my head is that assumption that a "base" complete upper is a shameful thing to have. If this is yous SHTF gun, be glad you have a good, long lasting upper that can delivery rounds on target. Sure, it's nice to have a $1000 upper, but if you brag about having it and never use it, well now, that $1000 upper is SOMEONE else's. Oh, and a simple fact that you can make that upper last a lot longer with an upgraded BCG made of high quality components and print better groupings with proper cleaning of the barrel as well. Not too many of us viewers have the access to an *ahem* "super-fast smei-auto" lower to report back what we find. Buy what you can afford to defend you and yours and train with it.

    • @skippyvonbudro2919
      @skippyvonbudro2919 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Damn straight, 100% agree

    • @GibbyCustomz
      @GibbyCustomz Před 3 měsíci +3

      Yep I agree with you 1000%

    • @jamoy1993
      @jamoy1993 Před 3 měsíci +2

      If i were privileged enough to I would legit have my fancy range gun and a couple of these for SHTF. Good to have a spare and for 300 bucks that is mad cheap. I just bought a straight pull (laws suck here) and it cost me close to 2.5k USD for the upper and lower combined.

    • @stevep7346
      @stevep7346 Před 3 měsíci

      I'm just really confused why SOMEONE is so important. Seems like a weird part of the sentence to shout for emphasis.

    • @jpk9171jpk
      @jpk9171jpk Před 3 měsíci

      You could honestly just spend $25 on a solgw bolt upgrade kit and and be good to go. I’m honestly impressed.

  • @cryptozeus2354
    @cryptozeus2354 Před 3 měsíci +685

    That PSA will stop a bad guy just as effective as that expensive AR. Dead is dead

    • @Borderline5440
      @Borderline5440 Před 3 měsíci +62

      If it goes bang every time and gives you "minute of bad guy" accuracy at reasonable ranges, that's really all you can ask for.
      Anything over and above that is just gravy.

    • @BloopTube
      @BloopTube Před 3 měsíci +6

      Bullet and barrel length is what matters, so long as the rest is reliable thats all that really matters aside from drip levels

    • @bigglocktv7481
      @bigglocktv7481 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Theres dead then there’s dead as a doorknob. THERES A DIFFERENCE

    • @bigglocktv7481
      @bigglocktv7481 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@BloopTubebarrel length? How long does a barrel need to be affective in real time killing range?

    • @JohnLocke1776
      @JohnLocke1776 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Dead like Zed

  • @SecretSpots
    @SecretSpots Před 2 měsíci

    This was an AMAZING review!

  • @denniswerner1670
    @denniswerner1670 Před měsícem +2

    One of the things that budget manufacturers get criticized for is that they usually secure their gas blocks with set screws rather than pinning. PSA being one of those companies that uses screws on AR-15s. We can all agree that pinning is a more secure method and provides a secure mechanical connection to the barrel. But contrary to the “internet experts” this video shows that using set screws can be durable and can hold even under sustained full auto fire. I mean if you listen to the internet, with all the vibration, barrel whipping, lateral forces from the recoil and heat that gas block should have fallen off half way through the test.

    • @hairydogstail
      @hairydogstail Před měsícem

      If the gas block is under the hand guard, the barrel is dimpled, the gas block and barrel journal is with in spec and installed correctly, the gas block will stay put very well...

  • @kinch613
    @kinch613 Před 3 měsíci +170

    Phil is a gem and should be a GT staple cast member. Well done PSA!

    • @denniswerner1670
      @denniswerner1670 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Honestly… for $300-$400 that rifle did damn good.

  • @RealitySurvival
    @RealitySurvival Před 3 měsíci +129

    This did nothing but inspire complete confidence in PSA if you ask me.

    • @jessesimmons4503
      @jessesimmons4503 Před 3 měsíci +3

      They do a fine job.

    • @BoredAmerican
      @BoredAmerican Před 2 měsíci

      Yea like genuinely as a giga chump who wants a rifle for doomsday prepping I will never be let down by my rifles

  • @celmer6
    @celmer6 Před měsícem

    Back in 2017 I bought two 16" AR-15 Complete Rifle kits for $250 each and 2 Anderson stripped lowers. Those are two awesome cheap economy blaster's that shoots tight groups. I must admit that I love the cheap builds too.

  • @abrahamrhodes5063
    @abrahamrhodes5063 Před měsícem

    I'm loving the antiques roadshow vibe from Phil.

  • @stevenlewis6781
    @stevenlewis6781 Před 3 měsíci +56

    That rifle was doing 1moa after 4k rounds and much of that was full auto. That’s more than 99.9% of any AR-15 will ever see, and frankly freaking insane.

    • @Reviews4fun1
      @Reviews4fun1 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Yeah and beat to ish with zero maintenance. I’d bet most guys at least run a few patches through the barrel after a few range trips and drop some lube in there.

    • @JohnnyReb2000
      @JohnnyReb2000 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Reviews4fun1yeah, I was pretty much raised on the mindset of not cleaning your firearm after a range trip being like not wiping your ass when you use the restroom. Only exception I make is when I only shoot one or two rounds during a hunting trip or similar situations. I do agree that the upper used in the video saw way more abuse than the majority of AR's will ever see.
      That being said, if you were to go the build route instead of buying a complete rifle, you could buy PSA stripper lower and upper receivers and use the money saved from not buying premium brand receivers to invest in better quality barrels, BCG's, etc where having better quality parts would be more worth the extra money spent.

  • @keeganaldrich404
    @keeganaldrich404 Před 3 měsíci +353

    This is the best rifle evaluation i have seen on the internet, so far. Definitely the only one where ive seen the rifle and bolt actually broken down and evaluated, measured and critiqued by a professional. This, this is excellent content.

    • @paulelen8804
      @paulelen8804 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Would you expect anything different from the Thumb??

    • @danielmanly4793
      @danielmanly4793 Před 3 měsíci

      Check out "School of the American rifle" if you're in to the details.

    • @MordecaiSoup7
      @MordecaiSoup7 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Look up school of the American rifleman. It’s an actual gunsmith who deep dives into the specs of AR’s and show you what’s good and what’s bad in manufacturing

    • @marcushale1931
      @marcushale1931 Před 2 měsíci +3

      But why run it suppressed?

    • @RJT80
      @RJT80 Před 2 měsíci +1

      They contradicted themselves at the end. They didn't shoot the barrel out at all. That rifle would still run. Definitely if you tossed another $50 BCG in. I'm guessing they ran out of ammo and or interest in taking it any further. Didn't Rob Ski put 10k through his PSA freedom rifle years ago?

  • @slosky89
    @slosky89 Před 22 dny

    Probably one of the funniest episode so far but still very educational, good job boys

  • @brandon4973
    @brandon4973 Před měsícem +1

    I've built quite a few rifles with Anderson stripped lowers and PSA kits. Never had an issue with any of them putting about 500-1,000 rounds in each so far. Best bang for your buck imo.

  • @robmorgan1214
    @robmorgan1214 Před 3 měsíci +151

    Man I love Asian Phil, very knowledgeable and a great communicator. These are simple machines, but because they are so dynamic, the details really matter and aren't always obvious! Very interesting breakdown.

  • @NickAristotle
    @NickAristotle Před 3 měsíci +179

    I love all the firearms knowledge and testing you do, but I have to admit, the most excitement I get is seeing if Charles is in the video to give SDI a new meaning. 😂

  • @CryptoJunkie509
    @CryptoJunkie509 Před měsícem

    Your getting huge bro. Been hitting the weights like crazy it looks like

  • @mosin9105
    @mosin9105 Před měsícem

    Thanks

  • @haroldfarquad6886
    @haroldfarquad6886 Před 3 měsíci +480

    Seriously worthwhile work for the audience. If every house in my neighborhood had a PSA and 3-4 mags of ammo, and they've only been to the range a couple times and put a couple hundred rounds down range, I'd feel a lot more comfortable than if only one or two houses had Daniel Defense run by former operators. Realistically, none of us are ever going to need 5000+ rounds to defend ourselves. We might need a few dozen rounds in home defense or to escape a riot, or several hundred under WROL. A 5000 round life is probably going to be plenty to get basic proficiency and ability to survive long enough to make one's way to a place with better weapons.

    • @joshstewart3313
      @joshstewart3313 Před 3 měsíci +73

      Most veterans that I know... mostly use PSA builds... for the price... they really don't care... It works....

    • @Vicarium
      @Vicarium Před 3 měsíci +54

      This. Outfitting 5 men in my family with a basic red dot and 7 mags for a little bit more than money than JUST a Daniel Defense or other Gucci ARs is a win. Reminder, this is PSAs cheapest offering...6000 rounds cost $2500 or more depending on what you buy. Sometimes quantity is better than quality.

    • @PaddyInf
      @PaddyInf Před 3 měsíci +37

      Like Stalin said, sometimes quantity has a quality all of its own. ​@@Vicarium

    • @R.Sole88109
      @R.Sole88109 Před 3 měsíci +32

      What's the rules of a gunfight?.
      1, Have a gun.
      2, Bring your mates who have guns.😁
      Plus two is one and one is none.
      So $400 PSAs will do the job.👍🏻
      And in a real world defensive shooting your gun will be in evidence for a while....

    • @Ratkill9000
      @Ratkill9000 Před 3 měsíci +12

      And even with that, if you have replacement parts on hand for everything consumable on it, you're going to he fine for a good while.

  • @myfavoritemartian1
    @myfavoritemartian1 Před 3 měsíci +560

    A $10,000 Gucci gun is by far worse than a $500 gun and $5,000 ammo with $4,500 in training.

    • @maybeaspider3456
      @maybeaspider3456 Před 3 měsíci +16

      or half a dozen identical looking rifles on the same platform. as opposed to a few solid picks with good upgrades

    • @robertswitzer3630
      @robertswitzer3630 Před 3 měsíci +29

      Long time ago asked my buddy if I should get a high dollar AR or mid priced. He said: "lead kills, not gold".

    • @GreyGrim
      @GreyGrim Před 3 měsíci +3

      so.. $500 rifle- $9000+ in ammo, because you can watch vids on how to shoot all day but nothing will progress untill you go to the country/shooting range and start putting rounds on paper

    • @myfavoritemartian1
      @myfavoritemartian1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@GreyGrimFor $4,500 in training would include range time and practical exercises. +$5,000 in ammo is a lot of shooting. Good professional training ain't cheap. Like Gunsite and such.

    • @maybeaspider3456
      @maybeaspider3456 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@GreyGrim if you watched this video at all you'd know that $9000 worth of ammo thru a $500 rifle is going to kill the rifle. If you have $10k to spend you'd be better off spending 1/3 of that on a gun that can actually cycle the remaining $7k in ammo without needing to replace half the parts. Try using your brain

  • @The-Sportsman69
    @The-Sportsman69 Před 8 hodinami

    Thanks for your video 👍

  • @remiel3315
    @remiel3315 Před 2 měsíci

    I haven't seen it mentioned, bur Phil's 'stash is on point!

  • @Duckhunterbow
    @Duckhunterbow Před 3 měsíci +277

    90% of people aren't ever going to spend $2.5k plus on ammo to get to the 5k round mark.

    • @Maddog3060
      @Maddog3060 Před 3 měsíci +23

      Well, not all at once like these guys did, but over years of ownership and shooting anyone will eventually get to that point. Unless they just stick the rifle in a closet and forget it. Hell, people pay for cars that cost tens of thousands of dollars by paying a little bit at a time. So it's not out of the question that people will reach that point.

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 Před 3 měsíci +1

      It’s also not uncommon, though

    • @andyleotell
      @andyleotell Před 3 měsíci +5

      A little at a time and ye shall exceed 5k rounds of 556!

    • @lucasvaughn629
      @lucasvaughn629 Před 3 měsíci +5

      ​@Maddog3060 that's exactly what people do. The vast majority of people will buy an ar shoot in a couple times a year and never rack up more then 1k rounds if that.

    • @fujimi715
      @fujimi715 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Because most people don't actually train.. they just talk shit and post memes

  • @kevinsdb1
    @kevinsdb1 Před 3 měsíci +154

    "You couldn't even put the targets up straight Charlie?" Charlie "They're circles" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Chefian23
    @Chefian23 Před 26 dny +1

    43:32 mans brought out the STC file like a tech priest 😂

  • @martyschrader
    @martyschrader Před měsícem +2

    Nobody at the range laughs at my PSA upper on my Oly nor the two PSA pistol uppers (5.56, 300 AAC) on Andersons. I hit what I shoot at, and it goes bang every time I yank back on that lever thingy inside that loop at the bottom in front of where you hold it.

  • @berkstien1289
    @berkstien1289 Před 3 měsíci +208

    A $400 complete upper firing over 5000 rounds, suppressed, in full auto, and for the most part, out of the box with minimal maintenance. That is beyond reasonable expectations. My issued M4 was nearly cooked around 4k non-suppressed with regular cleanings.

    • @SergioGonzalez-gi9kr
      @SergioGonzalez-gi9kr Před 2 měsíci +10

      I'm no expert. But this seems to be on point. Just based on the many hours of CZcams I've watched and the conversations with bros that have been deployed.

    • @LordDirus007
      @LordDirus007 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Old Colts are garbage, you have to think your M4 was probably made like 20 years ago.

    • @rileyp1419
      @rileyp1419 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Those old colts did not hold up well.

    • @thejoker9201
      @thejoker9201 Před 2 měsíci +9

      You were issued M4s?? Shit I was 11bravo Infantry and we were never issued M4s. My last deployment to Iraq was 06. And we still were using our beat up old and worn out M16A4s.

    • @rileyp1419
      @rileyp1419 Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@thejoker9201 I was in Afghanistan 2013. Y’all went hard with those m16s in Iraq though, I definitely respect the guys before me.

  • @hk93shooter
    @hk93shooter Před 3 měsíci +195

    with a price point of 300 bucks and full build rifle costing about 450? you can afford to buy 5 or 6 of these rifles for friends and family when you need them. and still be able to buy ammo. rather than 1 or 2 high end rifles and some ammo. i think that was the intention of PSA's founder. getting affordable rifles in the hands of Americans. and making it ' in common use' . i think is a beautiful thing and i support PSA 100 percent.very nice test and measurement. it teaches everybody the inner workings of an AR.

    • @thebronzetoo
      @thebronzetoo Před 3 měsíci +4

      💯

    • @barfo281
      @barfo281 Před 3 měsíci

      @hk93shooter Just stop. Stop repeating that "common use" nonsense invented by SCROTUS. Shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed, whether "common use" or not. F Scalia, F Thomas. And F clowns who lie about Heller and Bruen being "big 2A wins" when they actually uphold infringements.
      “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, AND EVERY OTHER TERRIBLE IMPLEMENT OF THE SOLDIER, are the birthright of an American…[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”
      -Tench Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788

    • @andrews2990
      @andrews2990 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Why the fuck would I buy rifles for ‘friends or family’? If they don’t already have their own, they’re just a liability.

    • @guillaume4519
      @guillaume4519 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@andrews2990 you should listen to Mike, at the end of his videos, when he talk about people adopting some shitty mindsets.

    • @horsied
      @horsied Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@andrews2990terrible mind set. if you never got in to guns you’d be a liability too. Pass down knowledge and experience…