Massdrop HD6XX (Sennheiser HD650) Review
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The first background synth song is called “Night Stalker” by Wave Saver, for anyone looking
Ty bro
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Yeah I waited 3 months. Worth the $199 price tag.
Call's it a longer Video
*Laughs in Zeos*
I know that's right. I like Zeos, but he tends to ramble for 30 mins before getting to the actual meat and potatoes of what you clicked for. Though I guess to some they like that type of review quality.
time footstep for me:
2:05 Build
2:56 Power
4:06 Sound
10:16 Conclusion
and... thank you for your review.
Just wanted to say thank you for doing all these reviews. They've been very helpful in picking out a new set of cans. As I wait for my HD6XX to arrive, this video made me feel good about the purchase. If nothing else, at least I'll have heard it for comparison purposes. Keep up the good work.
Love the review, man...that background music is so sweet! Good job.
The 80s synth is so rad! Makes the review so good man
Awesome as always, Josh!
Love the retrowave tune you got commin and goin there!! My sort of ecstasy.. AND review!!
I can’t wait for mine! 2nd video I’ve seen from you but I subbed after the 1st one. Great quality man and great review.
They’ve been a great start to my audioholicism, well worth the five month wait. After reading and watching EVERY 6XX and 650 review I was surprised how good, and how loud they sound straight from my iPhone and iPad. They improve maybe 10% through my Amp/Dac, especially the lower frequencies, but it’s not night and day like I had been led to believe.
What amp/dac do you use?
Would you use a mayflower ARC for the HD6XX because I really only game and listen to some music, but since I’m gaming I’m thinking of getting a Modmic 5.0 and the ARC has the mic input. So just wondering if the ARC is a good choice. Thank you
Are you sure ? Because the HD 6XX and 650 does not sound good because at higher volume it sounds too flat in certain frequencies and also there is this thing call harmonic distortion. Of course when plug in to my smartphone and laptop. Also, every dac sound different in various phone and computer
Appreciate your video Josh... I just ordered a pair on Massdrop... Thanks!
Thanks for the 6XX vs. 660S comparison. You know your audience.
I ordered a pair of Sennheiser 650's and really like them. Great detailed sound and yes the headphones make vocals sound very crisp and good depth to them. Wish i had known about these but i might buy a pair of HD6XX's for every day use.
These are great videos, well made!
"The love child of massdrop and sennheiser" cx
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Just got mine and the Schiit Fulla 2 is on the way. From what I can tell right now, an amp is absolutely needed because the volume they can reach from just my pc is not nearly high enough if you like to listen to music at high volume.
I am just now beginning my audio journey. I really didn't know what I was missing out on until I had my cousins headphones on and the music actually blew my mind. I was hearing songs in ways I had never heard them the 1000 times before. It almost brought a tear to my eye as corny as that sounds. I just can't go back to my cheap 50 dollar gaming headphones. lol Got a little extra Christmas money and so I thought I would upgrade while I have the spare money to do so. After reading many articles and finishing by watching your video I just finished ordering me a pair of these online. The next 3-4 days are going to feel like anticipating Christmass all over again, maybe even more. lol So I appreciate this video. Great explanation, and gets straight to the point. Now I am all worried about what amp I am going to purchase down the line, but I'll leave that for another day. lol Appreciate the great video. I hope you and anyone who happens to read this is having an amazing/positive day/night!
I got these a few weeks ago and they sound pretty much as I suspected. The 6xxs are not as comfortable as I thought they would be (top of the head). These are what I was looking for for sound, warm, soft, extremely pleasing. I would definitely say they ARE veiled and not overly detailed but I'm a middle aged guitar player and my hearing is not the best. I have only run them off a little bear b4 tube amp so an amp upgrade is in order. the 6xxs are definitely the best headphone I have owned for vocals and slam. I don't think most people would be disappointed in bass quantity or quality. I definitely notice the narrower soundstage but it sounds so good overall I don't miss it. I will need to break them in more and get an upgrade amp but I'm perfectly happy. funnily, I was listening to the ksc75s today and despite the sometimes grainy highs I like them equally to the 6xxs. upgraditis is a bitch.
I've game with these for like 3 years and honestly I turn the music off in games and we're golden
I got mine a couple of days ago, absolutely brilliant for casual listening and gaming (at least for shooters like R6 Siege, CSGO and BF1 as the imaging leads to quite stunningly accurate representation of footsteps). This is better than the HD600 for the stuff I listed above but not for professional use.
@Aimee&Evan so how is it going?
This is the second video of yours that I have watched. I am now a subscriber.
I have the HD650 and the Grado SR125 and enjoy them both even though they seem to be on opposite sides of the sound field, variety is the spice of life.... They are paired with (and I would live your opinion) Little dot Dac2 and the little dot MKIII tube amp.....
Just got my HD6XX today and I'm in love with it! I recently got the Kanas Pro IEM and thought...I would love to have a headphone with the same sound signature, a laid back smooth yet detailed sound...the HD6XX by reviews sounded like it and now that I've heard it, I would say that it is exactly what I was looking for and then some. They took my now favorite sound signature refined it even more than I thought possible. Probably the last headphone I'm going to buy for a few years and I have zero regrets!
I like your review. I think a narrow soundstage is good if it's suppose to be a intimate headphone, that's what intimate is suppose to sound like. I sold mine a few months back but I want to buy again.
Great content review Josh Massdrop brought them back the HD 6XX still debating if I want to pull the trigger and what dac/amp are recommended to powered the HD 6XX
Great review
Super review!
2 months after getting my 6xx im loving it everyday best purchase for me. Eq'd it using peace with innerfidelity auto eq settings and the bass came out 😁
Hello, do you mind if i ask where you got these auto eq settings you are talking about? I want to try eqing my 650s as well.
My favourite thing about these headphones is how I can listen to music/audio for hours and not fee any fatigue. The sounds fee natural. I’m not an audiophile and so I can’t describe them as reviewers. But I think people can relate who are also not audiophiles like me.
I've had these for close to two years now and I have tried both styles of Amps and my perfered one is the tube I just love the warmer tone it gives and it has become my staple for every headphone I buy.
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Just receieved mine today from massdrop. very very please such a clean sound. next comes a jotenheim and xlr cables
Good review, Josh
Thanks J!
My first new set of real Headphones. Because of this review. Thanks.
Great video, I subbed 👍
Ditto!
Still one of my favourite videos from Josh ♥️
Bought this last year and paired it with schitt magni 3. Probably gonna be the headphone that I'll be using for the rest of my life. I am not an audiophile but I appreciate neutral and high end audio. Get it cuz they are super worth it. After a year, the metal band and the earpads kinda loosens a bit, and they are basically gloves to my head now. Oh and yeah, the sound stage and bass expand quite a bit after using it daily SO yeah, give it some time.
It's not that they expand more like you start appreciating clean bass, was same with me, now everything else sounds like bloaty bass.
Thank you for the review! If I will buy the fx-audio dac-x6 it's will be ok for this headphones?
will you be reviewing all massdrop headphones , the stand out ones like focal elex or fostex tr x00 as examples, ive been enjoying the massdrop headphones already got 3 in a short space of time, this audiophile game is addictive and dam expensive lol
The 660s comment at the end convinced me to go with the 6xx. Save a little money and getting a similar experience.
Great review as allways!
Never heard hd650s , I had hd600 and HD 700 which I sold , currently I have Hd555 ,HD565,HD580 and HD660s , would love to know how they compare to 660s and the new massdrop HD58X.
Thanks
Excellent review actually what you talk about is the same as i find when i tried them
I'm trying to put together a dedicated headphone setup. Just ordered the Modi. However, I'm hesitant to get the Magni 3 as @300ohms, it's only 410mw. I tend to listen at higher volumes depending on the music.
I really don't want anything less than true (budget) audiophile gear. Schiit is very appealing especially in that you can slowly add their gear without selling your house. I just don't feel that 410mw of juice is going to be quite enough. Any suggestions on what would be under $200 and basically a Schiit Modi but with a little more juice that'll amply power these 6xx's?
Love the show!
Good review
My old hd560 headphones are the same way. They do work better with a good amp and sound great with a tube amp. The only problem with my 20 plus year old Sennheisers is the cord. They could have used a better cord. Thanks for this helpful video. I am looking to purchase a new set. I don't mind the old ones but they no longer make the cords. Thanks and have a good day.
nice review
Thank you very much, this review is crystal clear, especially when English is not your mother tongue !
Hi Joshua, so how do these sound in comparison to the HiFiMan XS headphones? I have had great luck with Sennheiser so far, and I tend to listen to a warmer sound sig (not basehead warm). I also run a Fulla Schiit and a Topping DX3 Pro+. Thank you Joshua!
Hey Joshua, did you get a pair of the Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee? I’m curious to hear your take on it, since you just reviewed these. My 6XX were my main cans, but now the 58X has replaced them. I’ll see if I can buy another pair, and send them to you for review.
Great review and great music. Title?
Hey Josh, really love your content! So informative.
Im a streamer looking to upgrade to a pair of nice sounding headphones that I can wear for long periods of time. Currently use a gaming headset but looking to upgrade to something more audiophile focused as I don't need a headset mic. I have a GoXLR that has a decent headphone amp.
Budget of $500 or below. Would love some suggestions!
idk much about headphones but I've heard from many people that HyperX Cloud Alphas are really good, the microphone on them is detachable if you dont want to use it
Sonarworks has different EQ curves for 650 vs 6XX. Are you sure they're identical?
I have HD58X and now I have HD6XX after all these months , First of all I have to say Build Quality is WAAAAY better on HD6XX I know its strange but its true , I got HD58X first and I got bad quality plastic that I got squeak noises and some harsh plastic endings also the pads was very stiff and bad shaped , When I first open my HD6XX I was expecting the same build quality like HD58X , but I was surprised plastic are very good refined and there are no squeak noises , the pads are good shaped and softer and bigger .
About Sound , keeping it short HD6XX are cleaner to me more warm , and HD58X are brighter with deeper bass.
Paid $300 CDN including shipping and in my opinion, they are well worth it! Excellent headphones!
Picked up a "as new" pair of these today for under USD 130. Initial impression great. Prefer these to the HD560s have been using the last year or so. Nicely paired with an iFi stack.
These or the HD 600, assuming both are run on good amps like the cavalli hybrid or magni/modi stack
How well can this be used with a phone. Coz i wanna use it when im in a car too
Hows the soundstage compared to the Philips SHP9500?
Instead of buying the HD 650s, a few years ago I just ordered the individual parts to the headphones from Sennheiser. Then I found some broken HD 580s on ebay, I used that for the headband since its the same. Spray painted, personalized them, saved over $100. My favorite pair of headphones. :D
Only paid a bit over $250 at the time.
and I tend to use them more than Audeze. Its so lightweight and more comfortable.
660s has does not have the foam in the center around the driver, a very common mod for hd 600 and 650. people do that in order to remove some of that "sennheiser veil"
I have tested the 6xx next to my 650s. I can confirm the sound is very similar (if not exactly the same). The headband is different; the 6xx feels cheaper.
ga yeah I was afraid of that. I had the hd650s sold them like a idiot. Miss them. Debating whether to get the 6xx or the 650s due to the build.
Hey Joshua, I really need your help.
I have Fiio X7 MK2 with AM3D(THX) Amp Module + HD 6XX.
And I do feel like my setup is not being able to drive the HD 6XX to its full potential.
i was looking to buy Fiio Q5s or the Magni 3 but I didnt get any clear idea even after reading tons of reviews on the internet.
I am open to go for Tube amps also if that could help sound better.
I was thinking of,
i. Fiio X7 MK II as DAC + AM3(Stock AMP) + Q5S + AM3D(THX AMP) + HD 6XX
ii. Fiio X7 MK II as DAC + AM3D(THX AMP)+ Magni 3 / O2 + HD 6XX
iii. Fiio X7 MK II as DAC + [all other possible options ] + HD 6XX
please help.
Please suggest how to make the HD 6XX sound best with Fiio X7 MK2 with AM3D sound its best.
was using AKG K702, broke em permanently, got the HD6XX, right choice or a wrong one?
Would i not be dong these Headphones enough justice if i was running them thru a Fiio E10k?
Would the Schiit Stack (Modi/Magni/Heresy 3) drive these well?
Just bought a used 2yr old 6XX online for 200AUD. I replaced the pads, buts its amazing
Hi, nice review about HD6XX. Recently I bought this headphone and I like the sound signature of it. Now I need more lush sound, warmer, some more wider sound stage, and more bass. Can you able to suggest some good amplifier to pair with the headphones.
Perhaps the 660s is what you'd like?
Would you recommend M1060s or 6XX?
I tried the 650s (new drivers) with a HDVD800 and I really hated it for some reason :P I wanted them because I heard they are amazing with vocal based Metal (Iron Maiden) but when I tried them with Hallowed be thy name it only made everything more recessed.
Can I drive these with xDuoo Link 2? Or will that not be enough?
Hi Joshua, HD650 or DT1990?
Is there a dac that allows for 7.1 surround pass through to the headphones when using the 1/4 inch jack? I just ordered these and want to use them for gaming, but I’m not sure I’m ready to give up 7.1 surround.
7.1 is stereo. 2 drivers for 2 ears, if you get a hifi headphone you will be able to hear anything just like with 7.1 but in higher quality.
Wow.
This is pretty decent production value, but after watching your current stuff, it's a bit of a shock. It sounds like you have since gotten a new mic these days that makes your voice sound more bassy and cleaner. Your transitions have gotten much cleaner too.
I am starting to get into this world of hi fi audio and i wanted to know, or if you would recommend me changing from b&o play h9 to the 6xx.
I know they are from different worlds, different design open vs close back, basically different everything, but could you say is worth the change?
Yeah, it's worth it. Also get a proper stack.
Hd6xx vs sundaras as my first music only decent headphone?
I am trying to keep an eye out for them, hard to find at a normal price in New Zealand
What type of DAC would you recommend to drive them?
Also you background music choice is excellent, made me sub!
Do you link to the music anywhere?
With the HD 650 you can go for Aune X1S, 230€ for an amp and dac combo that is very high quality in terms of build and sound, very very clean amp.
JDS Atom and Khadas Tone Board go well with HD 650. Very detailed, smooth and natural sound.
You can import JDS Atom (from USA), Khadas Tone Board (from China) a case for the KTB (from France) with the HD6XX from Massdrop and still save $50 on the New Zealand RRP for the HD 650. Leave out the case for the KTB to save another $50. Each component should fall below the duty free limit provided the parcels enter the country at few weeks apart.
Great review. In fact, I ordered a pair of the 6XX's after your review, in my search for some true "audiophile headphones". I already own some Philips Fidelio X2's which I have found to be very good and a significant step-up from the previous cans, the Audio Technica M50's (which I never really liked). However, my search is still on. The 6XX's are good, give a very pleasing sound, which is very detailed and clear, but when it comes to soundstage they are very flat indeed, especially compared to the X2's. It's made me realize how just how good the X2's are and they actually cheaper. I haven't tried the 6XX's with tubes though. Not too disappointed with my purchase as a second set of cans is good to have. But where to go next?
Hi Joshua, one quick question I am thinking in upgrade my open backs from SHP9500 to HD6XX I would like to know if the Ifi Nano would be able to drive them or not, in that case what would be a good replacement that can be drive with the ifi. Also if you have a suggestion to upgrade the ATH m40x that would be welcome too. Regards
Get HD58X - They sound amazing. A definite upgrade for sound, easier to drive than the 6 and cheaper.
I have the bose qc35 ii and listen to music on my IPhone, so I just was wondering if I should buy these or not seeing as how I don’t have great audio equipment to get the most out of the headphones.
Riant without a proper dac/amp combo (desksize or powerful portable amp atleast) I would NOT recommend going for these Sennheiser headphones.
You can try something like the Sony MDR-1A/1AM2 or Audio Technica MSR7 instead - those are good headphones to begin with.
What is the best portable Dac /amp for these that would be easy to use with a phone? Would a dragonfly red or cobalt work well?
Did you find something? You'd have to look up reviews for them but Fiio, Xduoo, SMSL, Aune & Topping make portable dac/amp combos that will stack with smartphones well.
Please always keep your neutrality, Josh. Loving your reviews!
is it an electroestatic headphone?
What would be a good wide soundstage headphone for gaming I'm currently using Beyerdynamic dt 990 32 ohm versión thanks
AD1000X could be great. But for soundstage the 990 are pretty much at the top already, you will get everything else with ad1000x though, you can actually listen to music with them and not bleed.
What's the name of the song? 2:06
A question i have is will my Schiit magni 3 be enough to drive these headphones i never have had a headphone with such a high impedance
Yep
I wanted to buy these but unfortunately this drop does not ships to my country. feelsbadman
Ciao Joshua ,I'm MAssimiliano from Italy just a question what do you think about a comparison by Senheiser HD 560 S and Senn DRop HD 6XX ? what's the best they're both neutrral. I think that I choose not a good headphone for my Stereo HIFI ,pls the very truth + pros and cons. thx in advance a many greetings ,you're the best. ciao
They're the same.
By the way Sennheiser has NEW HD650 and NEW HD600 series with updated Plastics and some tune in the same drivers . You can see that you have the NEW 2019 HD650 and HD600 series by the headband Sennheiser LOGO and better quality plastics.
Waiting for a aune x1s review
i been looking for a planar that can be powered by a cellphone. i think these types need amps/dacs. maybe? idk.
been dying/patiently waiting for the panda thx.
i should include music genres. I'm more into hip hop, rap, edm, alternative. pop.
Are these headphones going on the recommended list?
Youngwoo Lee Yes, a new list is coming soon actually. New items.
I went to buy a pair and pre-ordered, they're shipping in 8 days so I'm lucky
@@feels5460 oh that's great news thanks
@@feels5460 hey, just curious, where did you get that info? I haven't received any emails yet
Given that both drops (that I'm aware of) were fully subscribed in record time and almost 3000 people have registered their interest in another drop, the best source for a pair appears to be EBay / Used forums. Happy to hear otherwise.
Being a audiophile newbie, I didn't have a pc capable of driving my HD6XX. I bought the Fulla 2, but found that the volume wasn't very good at driving the headphone. I paired the fulla 2 with a Magni and that really made a big difference.
Are these headphones a big jump up from the hd598's? Are they much better in every way??
Pretty large. Bass response I think is a tiny bit better on 598. But, I have not heard them in a while. But 58X and 6xx are amazing.
This video is a lot better than the unbox therapy video. More in depth. Will definitely consider purchasing these
HE4XX, HD58X and HD6XX in one single week. Wife was questioning my sanity after HD800 last year, now I am certified. Have to expedite my headphone switch box ASAP...
@a b In my opinion, No. HD58X is too bassy and a bit muddy for my liking, I find HD6XX much more neutral and cleaner. Side note: My HE4XX already failed less than an year, some loose connection inside, poor quality for price paid.
@a b Glad it was helpful. How do you compare HD6XX and BD DT1990?
@a b Thank you for the feedback, will keep this in mind! Have a great day.
I know my question might be ridiculous but I had HD558 and I LOVED the way it sounded, I guess it sounds warm and lows are very good and Deeeeeeppp which they call sound stage right? that's how i can describe it, do the HD6xx sound smiliar to that? I want to use them for long music listening and novice level music production.
Bass is bass and soundstage is how far away they sound is/sounds. Going from 500 to 600 line is going from mid range to high end, so the sound is very different and not comparable at all. You can compare 600 line with other more expensive headphones but those are "entry level", I mean they aren't worse as a headphone and you can enjoy them but sound quality is a lot higher on 600 line.
@@dnd6379 Thank you. okay but are they also pleasant to listen to? I mean not every high-end headset is pleasant for long hours of music listening even though their sound quality is much higher
@@rezaabdollahi4902 headphone*. And that is subjective, for me, I can use them for as long as I need to, did 10 hour all nighter on apex a few days ago and was just fine even after so long (in terms of comfort, but that is subjective as well). In terms of audio... yea... I can't tell you they will be, only you can know that once you buy them if you do. No one can tell you what headphones are right for you, people can give you suggestions sure but it's never 100% that you will like them. Although not many who've bought Sennheiser 600 line of headphones ever complain, so... there's some info on that, if that helps any. You will need to test the headphones out yourself before you will know if you like them or not. Everyone likes music a little bit different or their hearing isn't the best so they will prefer headphones with more treble. So I don't know how good your hearing is and what genre of music you are listening to. You will need to watch hours of content to get the most information on what headphones to get. Also 650/6xx are high end and end game in terms of audio, you will only get different audio from that point onward, either more or less mids, treble, bass or bigger soundstage or smaller one, etc.
How do these compare to the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pros? I found that the 990 has harsh highs and sometimes I just can't use them. I'm looking to replace them soon. Hope you're well!
Best deal in headphones. Hands down. The 650's have been at the top of the audiophile headphone list since their release in the early 2000's. They'll last for a long time, and all parts are replaceable. The 600 & 650 are legends. - Both brighter than the new 660s, and not as meaty/beefy from the mids through the low mids. The 660s sounds a bit different than the similar 600 & 650. If you love headphones, don't hesitate. Get a pair.
im looking for a good pair under $500? any suggestions? im a newb
@@pinhead2098 JVC Gumy or Hifiman Edition XS. Depends on if you're trolling or not. :-)
@@JohnSmith-oe4bw i am srs. but now im suspicious if ur reverse psychology trolling me now o_O lol i will check them out thanks
Are these still available ?