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  • This week Yahtzee reviews Gris and Ashen.
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Komentáře • 997

  • @Raganui
    @Raganui Před 5 lety +671

    Gris: A platformer about depression.
    Me: Didn't I play this flash game ages ago on Newgrounds?

    • @Jolfgard
      @Jolfgard Před 3 lety +8

      Nah, that was You Left Me or some shit.

    • @clickpause8732
      @clickpause8732 Před 3 lety +16

      Oh why don't you just
      Get Over It.

    • @chrisdude119
      @chrisdude119 Před 3 lety +2

      which flash game tho?
      newgrounds has too many great flash games to keep track of one...
      i guess you could say that we would have... Adventures With Anxiety!

    • @2dcreative94
      @2dcreative94 Před rokem +2

      I hope you remember its name because otherwise it will take months to find the game with just this description
      It will be a real
      Time Fcuk

    • @jarrellfamily1422
      @jarrellfamily1422 Před 2 měsíci

      Celeste

  • @elcheshireilustracion9396
    @elcheshireilustracion9396 Před 5 lety +1314

    Can confirm the Eel part on Gris. I also stopped moving, just to see what would happen and the game was too invested on itself to care.

    • @ajax_all_mighty
      @ajax_all_mighty Před 5 lety +133

      This is what we call Beyond Two souls syndrome

    • @crossbones116
      @crossbones116 Před 5 lety +209

      "Should we have a fail state?"
      "NON! Ze audience will be too invested to even consider putting ze controller down!"

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety +23

      @@crossbones116 GRIS is Spanish.

    • @alexandredesbiens-brassard9109
      @alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 Před 5 lety +86

      @@marnsdnfois7006 The word gris means grey in both French and Spanish.

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety +27

      @@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 The game is Spanish, too.

  • @mr.candyworm2693
    @mr.candyworm2693 Před 5 lety +74

    That cheeryfull "fuckup was in you all along" made my day.

  • @SingeStheos
    @SingeStheos Před 2 lety +53

    Yahtzee's Wife: How does it look outside, honey?
    Yahtzee: GRAAYYGGGHK

  • @7OwlsWithALaptop
    @7OwlsWithALaptop Před 5 lety +2413

    To be honest Gris just could've been an animated short film and everything would've been fine.

    • @shadowtoast6294
      @shadowtoast6294 Před 5 lety +149

      By "fine" do you mean "the same"?

    • @7OwlsWithALaptop
      @7OwlsWithALaptop Před 5 lety +210

      @@shadowtoast6294 I mean that people would've liked itway more, since they woudn't expect any gameplay.

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety +11

      Says someone who hasn't played it.

    • @ferry1226
      @ferry1226 Před 5 lety +36

      Yes but then it would have been in a different medium and nobody would have given a damn about it. Not to mention it wouldn't have made them any money. See Vidya gaems is where the $$$ is in entertainment these days.

    • @corruptedhelios3731
      @corruptedhelios3731 Před 5 lety +40

      I'd disagree. The story is understandable through the gameplay and would carry no impact without it. Also I think the game uses its gameplay quite well to develop its themes and make way for beautiful imagery that is interesting specifically because you cna interact with it (if you're not being chased by an eel that is). Just because you cant die doesn't mean it's not a good videogame.

  • @Arcananine77
    @Arcananine77 Před 5 lety +903

    Video in a nutshell: Yahtzee throwing fifty levels of shade at 2 games whose titles mean "Grey"

  • @sportyzmech2104
    @sportyzmech2104 Před 5 lety +773

    Just the title "Gris and ashen" sounds like a single game

    • @nicktheanticlause1313
      @nicktheanticlause1313 Před 5 lety +39

      I didn't know either title so thought this was going to be a review for some sort of coop game that I hadn't heard about. Now I'm a bit sad it isn't.
      I had this build up in my head of a two player coop fantasy RPG with a female character named Gris and her brother, Ashen. Something along the lines Hunted: The Demon Forge but you know... good.

    • @alexanderzhmurov9624
      @alexanderzhmurov9624 Před 5 lety

      I know right? Got me confused there for a minute, even forgot I knew about Gris...

    • @jamiekamihachi3135
      @jamiekamihachi3135 Před 5 lety +5

      Honestly, I thought it was just one game. And after the review I’m not convinced I was wrong in my assumption.

    • @Vaguer_Weevil
      @Vaguer_Weevil Před 5 lety +2

      It almost sounds like a shitty Banjo-Kazooie clone where the joke is the duo's names translate into the word "Grey" and is the only joke in the game that most people wouldn't catch on at first, in an effort to be clever.

    • @xycubed
      @xycubed Před 5 lety +1

      "Gris and ashen" sounds like grits and eggs that got way overcooked.

  • @n3ddn3dd24
    @n3ddn3dd24 Před 5 lety +162

    Gris and Ashen: A buddy cop game about an incompetent depressive new detective and an old one who hate his life and wants to die on the line of duty

    • @wanada6938
      @wanada6938 Před 5 lety +10

      Wouldn't mind watching that.

  • @JRedNose
    @JRedNose Před 5 lety +97

    "The fuckup was in YOU all along~!"
    ..
    Welp, now I'm gonna have to find a way to casually insert that into a random conversation..

  • @RegretfulDeadMan
    @RegretfulDeadMan Před 5 lety +363

    *Out now*
    Gris and Ashen
    *Coming soon*
    Sallow and Pallid

    • @ManaAdvent
      @ManaAdvent Před 5 lety +9

      I'm more hyped for Ecru and Beige.

    • @hugar3499
      @hugar3499 Před 5 lety +11

      are you kidding me, taupe and brown is gonna be the next big thing

    • @Ninetails2000
      @Ninetails2000 Před 5 lety +3

      I felt Chareuse and Geoluhread was pretty decent if not a bit obtuse...

  • @B-Roll_Gaming
    @B-Roll_Gaming Před 5 lety +240

    Journey was also a game with a low bar for challenging gameplay, but the difference is that it was fun. That is, the movement system was fun and playing it over and over was encouraged because you wanted to memorize the locations for all the collectibles so that you could fly longer distances and your scarf would grow longer.
    My point just being that Journey was built around gameplay, and that's why it was good despite being easy

    • @Exel3nce
      @Exel3nce Před 5 lety +5

      Seems like "artsy" is bad period nowadays

    • @antares3030
      @antares3030 Před 5 lety +13

      Fair point, yo! I love how we keep getting narrative hooded person walking simulators after Journey happened. The problem is that Journey was much more than that.

    • @yourgameisstupid
      @yourgameisstupid Před rokem

      People are actually gullible enough to think Journey has a story?

    • @B-Roll_Gaming
      @B-Roll_Gaming Před rokem +2

      @@yourgameisstupid Journey does have a story, and it's not a secret or subtle

    • @yourgameisstupid
      @yourgameisstupid Před rokem +2

      @@B-Roll_Gaming Right, it's just so trivial that you'd have to be gullible to consider it a proper story.

  • @vinnythewebsurfer
    @vinnythewebsurfer Před 5 lety +33

    1:51
    Of all the box art gags over the years, this one is just great.

    • @DoAGoldeneye
      @DoAGoldeneye Před 24 dny

      I now want to make a game about someone stuck in their bathroom with a paper bag over their head.

  • @jman8904
    @jman8904 Před 5 lety +284

    I miss the golden age of dramatic flash games. That was the hay day of this version of storytelling.

    • @hoodedman6579
      @hoodedman6579 Před 5 lety +5

      @@redfoxbennaton Have you never heard of games like The Company of Myself?

    • @Nijht
      @Nijht Před 5 lety +18

      @@redfoxbennaton Alright, you incompetent *fuck,* you can't claim everything in a genre is shit if you haven't even touched the genre in a decade.

    • @ddxinthehouse
      @ddxinthehouse Před 5 lety +2

      @@Nijht RIP

  • @sampappas6934
    @sampappas6934 Před 5 lety +115

    I don't know when Yahtzee wrote the bit about Gris's Steam description, but I just checked and it was changed to this:
    "Gris is a hopeful young girl lost in her own world, dealing with a painful experience in her life. Her journey through sorrow is manifested in her dress, which grants new abilities to better navigate her faded reality."
    This description seems a little less full of itself.

  • @hashslingingslasher97
    @hashslingingslasher97 Před 5 lety +30

    I'd watch an entire video of Yahtzee just saying GRIS in an increasingly aggressive tone.

  • @LautrecOfCarim
    @LautrecOfCarim Před 5 lety +27

    "The Fuckup was in you all along!"
    That seems like the kind of life leason that isn't valued enough in this day and age.
    Heh.

  • @nortonthedestroyer
    @nortonthedestroyer Před 5 lety +168

    Damnit! Now I want to play THE BAG.

    • @zombiefinatic7033
      @zombiefinatic7033 Před 5 lety +16

      You know Joel, if it was some artsy bullshit where you wake up bound, bagged and blind, and have to escape a place by bumping into shit to figure out the rooms layout... It could be more interesting than Grey and Grey.

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg Před 5 lety +6

      I play THE SKIMASK, myself, much more engaging.

    • @dastvan8002
      @dastvan8002 Před 5 lety +6

      THE BAG
      A gripping story about some twat with a paper bag on his head that somehow ends with the twat overthrowing the brutal dictatorship and becoming president. All without removing the titular bag

  • @maskofice9432
    @maskofice9432 Před 4 lety +11

    Rewatching ZP and that bit sarcastically talking about the Epic Store taking on Steam is now funny for a very different reason.

  • @kingsleycy3450
    @kingsleycy3450 Před 5 lety +92

    Now the Epic store owns half the upcoming PC games. Nice prediction, Yahtzee, eater of pies and tempter of fate.

    • @2Scribble
      @2Scribble Před 5 lety +11

      Eh - only the shit ones
      They're WELCOME to everything that's sold out to them imo

  • @wednesday8174
    @wednesday8174 Před 5 lety +125

    Can't argue that the titles are misleading I suppose.

    • @cruzthesasquatch
      @cruzthesasquatch Před 5 lety +3

      Ashens title isnt misleading. Theres literally ash everywhere

  • @RS250Squid
    @RS250Squid Před 3 lety +10

    I just keep coming back to hear all the varied ways yahtzee can pronounce *GRIS*...

  • @Mrlegitbeans
    @Mrlegitbeans Před 5 lety +4

    That last sentence resonates so well

  • @SleepTalkMetropolis
    @SleepTalkMetropolis Před 5 lety +64

    How many Sad Onions do you rate this game?

  • @gokuxsephiroth4505
    @gokuxsephiroth4505 Před 5 lety +7

    I love how he gets growlier and growlier every time he says Gris

  • @molh394
    @molh394 Před 5 lety +6

    Ok I must admit to being thoroughly amused by the ending

  • @Gastogh
    @Gastogh Před 5 lety +7

    "The fuck-up was in you all along!" Adulthood in a nutshell.

  • @takuansoho5836
    @takuansoho5836 Před 5 lety +1

    "In you all along the fuck-up was."
    Such true and inspirational words...

  • @kriegjaeger
    @kriegjaeger Před 5 lety +2

    Ori and the blind forest was challenging AND beautiful. Can't wait for the next one.

  • @GretgorPooper
    @GretgorPooper Před 5 lety +282

    I wish indies would stop using an artsy pretense to forego making an interesting and engaging gameplay experience. Come on, Undertale proved that it is possible to be equal parts artistic, funny and challenging.
    Now that I think of it, Psychonauts proved that it was possible more than a decade before Undertale, albeit with slightly clunky gameplay.

    • @omegaxtrigun
      @omegaxtrigun Před 5 lety +71

      Halcyonacoustic He didn’t compare it’s art style to undertale. He said they’re both artistic which is true. Also them being artistic is not just about art style.

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety +9

      I wish people only made games that I like, too.

    • @sajanpatel4956
      @sajanpatel4956 Před 5 lety +5

      Undertale isn’t artistic.

    • @everinghall8622
      @everinghall8622 Před 5 lety +13

      Now psychonauts....
      That was a masterpiece.

    • @Steidemeister56
      @Steidemeister56 Před 5 lety

      "slightly"

  • @nalazala7387
    @nalazala7387 Před 5 lety +32

    I knew exactly what gris was the second i saw it

    • @Exel3nce
      @Exel3nce Před 5 lety

      @@kyotheman69 what crappy Argument

    • @Exel3nce
      @Exel3nce Před 5 lety

      Well we saw gameplay of it so its not hard to figure out

  • @comradeshadles4967
    @comradeshadles4967 Před 5 lety +2

    With how much praise he gave subnautica I'm surprised he never did The Forest or being set up the same way but with a more dedicated horror focus

  • @headwyvern11
    @headwyvern11 Před 5 lety

    The last bit cracked me up, “the fuckup was in you all along!” Lmfao

  • @philthephilosopher9235
    @philthephilosopher9235 Před 4 lety +24

    "Gris" is actually grey in Spanish. So it's okay to pronounce the s.

    • @Rex13013
      @Rex13013 Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah, it sounds weird without the s tbh.

    • @GuyRosenfeld
      @GuyRosenfeld Před 2 lety +2

      Gris is also grey in French, and there you don't pronounce the s.

    • @taikenSHOW
      @taikenSHOW Před 2 lety +7

      @@GuyRosenfeld but the dev team is spanish, mate

    • @b4byj3susm4n
      @b4byj3susm4n Před rokem +1

      @@taikenSHOW How would Yahtz have known it was Spanish and not French from just looking at the steam page?

    • @taikenSHOW
      @taikenSHOW Před rokem

      @@b4byj3susm4n Wikipedia .___.

  • @Mathmachine
    @Mathmachine Před 5 lety +375

    Gris seems like one of those games ashamed to be a game. Basically every David Cage game. So help me I will never understand why people that don't want to make a game end up making a game rather than making it in some other medium that they seem to prefer.

    • @BaranZenon
      @BaranZenon Před 5 lety +14

      So it is basically like with white folks hating on other white people or that weird lass that played video games to prove their point that she hates video games, becouse they appeal to the male fantasies or whatever :)

    • @nathanclark2424
      @nathanclark2424 Před 5 lety +56

      Then again its surprising to me that David cage games are ashamed about being games rather than being huge fucking wastes of time and an insult to storytelling as a whole

    • @RCN2820
      @RCN2820 Před 5 lety +69

      BaranZenon this analogy makes no fucking sense.

    • @daviddelpozofiliu5556
      @daviddelpozofiliu5556 Před 5 lety +57

      It's not ashamed of being a game, it's just a different type of game. It's very upfront about it too. I guess it's not for everyone, but it was a wonderful experience for me.

    • @TheDakattack3000
      @TheDakattack3000 Před 5 lety +41

      Hardly to me. Gris seems more honest and upfront with it's subject matter than a David Cage game. Cage games beat you over the head with subject matter, has cringe dialogue and terrible plots. GRIS is straightforward, has no dialogue to criticize except for maybe Gris's own voice and let's the visual story telling do it's job. Maybe not as deep or complex as it could be but it has a art style that will outlast most games in future, is short and consistent, let's you control it and not require QTEs or choices and is priced far less than those games.
      No GRIS is more in the realm of games like Journey, Flower, flOw, Abzu and other games of those types that is more environmental driven than narrative driven. It's more abstract and what you think it is rather than being upfront of what it is. It's why Yahtzee likes Papers Please and Return of The Obra Dinn instead of Journey or Flower because he likes an actual cohesive story and unique way it's played/read. On a side note I do find it hypocritical that Yahtzee doesnt care for GRIS when the same can be leverage at Obra Dinn and Papers Please that have arguably similar boring ways to show itself as a game. Still like those games but his stance on games like Gris and Journey feels contrived.

  • @Ch50304
    @Ch50304 Před 5 lety

    Another hilarious one. The jokes with Ashen was hilarious.

  • @xplojunz
    @xplojunz Před 5 lety +34

    My weekly dose of happiness

  • @gigaport
    @gigaport Před 5 lety +6

    I'd love to hear yatzhee's thoughts on YIIK

  • @nicklager1666
    @nicklager1666 Před 5 lety +5

    Was that the first cameo from your and Kesses dog?

  • @spacehooliganzack7429
    @spacehooliganzack7429 Před 5 lety

    Never before have I heard the words "which invites further analysis" uttered with more contemptuous sadistic glee

  • @HeyItsAJOmega
    @HeyItsAJOmega Před rokem

    Honestly, the multiple ways Yahtzee says GRIISSSSS in this review keeps me coming back and giggling every time.

  • @madman407708
    @madman407708 Před 5 lety +5

    Finished this week's video, now I gotta wait for next week's all _super caj_

  • @ArcaneAzmadi
    @ArcaneAzmadi Před 2 lety +24

    Having finally played GRIS, I can actually say that it's a STAGGERINGLY beautiful game, particularly the soundtrack which goes beyond merely "nice" into "on my top 10 game soundtracks of all time", and the puzzle platformer gameplay is actually reasonably challenging. Yeah, you can't die, but talking about that sequence Yahtzee took issue with where the darkness is chasing you in the form of a giant eel but your character flees automatically, thinking about Yahtzee's criticisms as I played it, I realised that if the eel had caught me and killed me and the game had just gone "tut tut, too bad, now respawn and try again" the scene would have gone from dramatic, tense and evocative to merely irritating. It's like what Yahtzee said in his review of Outlast II where the first time psychopaths catch you and split your nadgers in half with a harvest scythe only for you to immediately respawn so you can try again, all sense of tension or fear is lost. Some games just don't need a failure state to accomplish their stated objective. Yeah, it's a bit pretentious, but I thought it was well worth the effort (it took me less than 3 hours to beat, not getting all hidden items or achievements), just not for everyone (such as Yahtzee).

    • @nicoornelas5676
      @nicoornelas5676 Před 2 lety +3

      I actually really love Gris! It is one of my favorite games of all time and seeing this video felt really disheartening. I think that some people just like things to do in video games. Gris isn't supposed to be a dark souls or very demanding of a player. It is more an ambitious interact piece of art. Even the creator of the game expressed how they were afraid this exact thing would happen. I suppose it is just a game that not everybody can enjoy unfortunately. Ironically Jahtzee had talked about how in your face it feels when in reality the story is very vague at times and there are a lot of interpretations as to what many things mean.

    • @Erick-tv8oq
      @Erick-tv8oq Před 2 lety +3

      In concept, I like Gris. It's just not good as a game imo. The soundtrack is phenomenal, the art is gorgeous and the themes are kinda pretentious but get a pass because I don't personally relate and there might be someone out there that does. But the platforming feels more like it was included to MAKE it a game than to enhance the experience as a game, if you catch my drift. Gris asks you to pay close attention to everything it presents you, except when you decide to take a look at what it asks you to do as a player.

  • @adamsagehorn3520
    @adamsagehorn3520 Před 5 lety

    "The fuckup was in you all along!" Thats hilarious.

  • @chrislin2663
    @chrislin2663 Před 5 lety +1

    "The fuck-up was in you all along!"
    Story of my life

  • @runesmith1171
    @runesmith1171 Před 5 lety +4

    I love Wednesdays. Listening to Yahtzee surgically dismantle a game in the most profane way possible pairs fucking excellently with coffee.

  • @JenkoRun
    @JenkoRun Před 5 lety +7

    Just reading these comments... Am I the only one here who loves GRIS so much because of what it is and how it's done?

    • @NeverStark
      @NeverStark Před 4 lety +3

      You are not. I thought Gris was a beautiful game.

    • @ivosamuelgiosadominguez6649
      @ivosamuelgiosadominguez6649 Před 3 lety +2

      I loved GRIS. It's not a great "game" IMHO because it really doesn't have much in the way of gameplay, but it's an amazing experience.

  • @shinyfireet1
    @shinyfireet1 Před rokem +2

    I like Gris actually, one of those games that had an impact on me despite not being challenging at all.

  • @NarffetWerlz
    @NarffetWerlz Před 5 lety

    "The fuck-up was in you all along" is my new mantra.

  • @abreufortaleza
    @abreufortaleza Před 4 lety +12

    Reading the comments one year later makes me sad for how many people didn't play GRIS because they thought it was "artsy". Yes, it is artsy. It is also really fucking good.
    - Perfect animation.
    - Perfect soundtrack and sound design.
    - Shows you the right way through level design alone, not a single word required.
    - The emotion is earned, there's nothing "contrived" (as someone commented one year ago).
    - The puzzles are interesting, though they're on the easier side.
    I think it's even sadder that people are comparing this to Journey and saying "at least that game had actual mechanics". To me, Gris had more "gameplay feel" than Journey, and that's coming from someone who loved journey.
    I don't think this game could have been made in any other media without changing the emotional response to it. It's one thing to watch a watercolour-style 2d animation - it's another thing to "be" in it, to feel the weight, speed, sound of the character, to interact with puzzles, to find secrets etc.
    I loved Gris. If you think this is an "artsy" game, at least give it the chance to amaze you.

    • @MnecraftEpicPro
      @MnecraftEpicPro Před 4 lety +3

      Yahtzee is looking at Gris the same way IGN did. Gris was literally meant to be playable art, form over function, not watercolour Dark Souls. Heading into Gris expecting it to play like Celeste, another platformer, is like playing The Last of Us and complaining it wasn't like DayZ purely because both were zombie games, ignoring that both games went for completely different styles. In the end, Gris is definitely not for everyone and it was quite funny seeing Gris flying over Yahtzee's head with an audible whoosh.

    • @jofol1757
      @jofol1757 Před 4 lety +2

      @@MnecraftEpicPro This. Sometimes I want play a less stress inducing game while still using some initiative and that's what GRIS is. I find it strange that a lot of people believe this game 'plays itself' and should be a movie instead. No it wouldn't be the same if it were a movie, the whole game requires you to interact with the exception of the eel part which almost everyone is tunnel visioned on. If you go into the game expecting it to be Celeste ofcourse you'll be disappointed; The only similarities I can think of is the 2d artstyle and hidden strawberries/memories

    • @chefrory6271
      @chefrory6271 Před 3 lety +5

      except gris has nothing to say i mean yahtzee describes it best "sad person wants to be less sad" there are literally thousands of other games that handle grief, depression, and mental illness MILES better and what the fuck are you on about it having more mechanics than journey it's literally just a side scroller with some puzzles sprinkled in plus i refuse to play a game that is so invested in itself to remember that games are supposed to have challenges and consequences or at the very least be fun to play

    • @luminosity01
      @luminosity01 Před 2 lety +2

      @@chefrory6271 if you don't find it fun, good for you, most people including me find it enjoyable for what it's trying to achieve.

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. Před 5 lety +756

    Why are you reviewing that guy who reviews poundland stuff on his couch? What's that got to do with games?

  • @shaysela6989
    @shaysela6989 Před 5 lety

    "The fuck-up was in you all along." the truest words I have ever heard

  • @chamuchamupalchamperry6686

    Wow I was literally just bingewatching old episodes

  • @TheOneGreat
    @TheOneGreat Před 5 lety +59

    Erm... Isn't gris Spanish for grey? And isn't the game made by Spanish people? The whole credits is full of Spanish names..

    • @Darkgun231
      @Darkgun231 Před 5 lety +13

      'Gris' also means 'grey' in French.

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety +28

      @@Darkgun231 Real inconvenient the game isn't French, then, huh?

    • @guscgonzalez
      @guscgonzalez Před 5 lety +3

      It is, yes

    • @discojoe3
      @discojoe3 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes. Ben made a mistake.

    • @Gridseeker
      @Gridseeker Před 4 lety +3

      Yep, "Gris" is developed by a Spanish company and also is the spanish word for grey.

  • @isalt5
    @isalt5 Před 5 lety +15

    "So, our second game, whose title means "gray", is Ashen."
    _Doo-Dee_
    _Doo-Dee_
    _Dee-Doo_
    _"Hello!"_

    • @MrDudeInTheSuit
      @MrDudeInTheSuit Před 5 lety +3

      Doo-Dee
      Doo-Dee
      Dee-Doo
      "Cheapo!"
      POUNDLAND SPECIAL!

  • @Plankensen
    @Plankensen Před 5 lety +1

    I like how he's trying to pronounce it like the Dutch because Girs is a Dutch name pronouced similar to how he says it.
    I used to go camping with a guy named that, I tried saying his name, until I just asked if I could call him ''Reich'' since that's what it kinda sounded like :P

  • @Deathkyun
    @Deathkyun Před 5 lety

    I lost it at the gun emoji.

  • @sexualyeti7023
    @sexualyeti7023 Před 5 lety +198

    Finally, something that isn't Moviebob.

    • @TheMorrisMan1
      @TheMorrisMan1 Před 5 lety +47

      It would be pretty sweet if they just got rid of that guy for good and payed yahtzee to make extra videos instead.

    • @10InchesOfIrish
      @10InchesOfIrish Před 5 lety +31

      Can't understand why they employ that hack.

    • @Sirus7009
      @Sirus7009 Před 5 lety +26

      I don't watch anything but yahtzee so i can't give an accurate critic on MovieBob but simply scrolling down the videos section of Escapist you can see a titanic difference in view numbers between ZP and Moviebob, so.... it seems viewers and subscribers care a lot more about Yahtzee than MB

    • @10InchesOfIrish
      @10InchesOfIrish Před 5 lety +6

      @@Jayfive276 I don't know what you're talking about, or why you're so angry.

    • @nathancurnutt8074
      @nathancurnutt8074 Před 5 lety +4

      @@TheMorrisMan1 with the amount of work Yahtzee does already I'm pretty sure he couldn't do that even if he wanted to.

  • @chrischris9123
    @chrischris9123 Před 5 lety +3

    Finally. A good upload from the Escapist

    • @chrischris9123
      @chrischris9123 Před 5 lety +1

      @@BuriedFlame Not a bad idea. I've noticed that CZcams recommends all sorts of videos from channels I'm not subscribed to.

  • @despawn7663
    @despawn7663 Před 5 lety +1

    Nailed it on the Indi artistic platform gameplay. I salute you

  • @Spooky0w0
    @Spooky0w0 Před 2 lety +1

    God damnit yahtzee, ya jinxed us with the bitcoin joke

  • @manudc6273
    @manudc6273 Před 5 lety +85

    "Gris", is spanish, as the game, not french -.-

    • @nindger4270
      @nindger4270 Před 5 lety +52

      Well, the word is *also* French and means the same...but in this case yes, it's Spanish.

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety +18

      @@nindger4270 Yhatzee just assumed it was French because he was lazy.

    • @XanderVJ
      @XanderVJ Před 5 lety +23

      @@marnsdnfois7006 He's far from the only person who's made that mistake, but every CZcams video about "Gris" has the correction among the top comments, so you'd think they had caught up in The Escapist.
      Considering that Yahtzee is going out of his way to mispronounce the word, at least he could try to butcher the right language.

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety +4

      @@XanderVJ It's because Yhatzee made the review in bad faith. He's known to hate games that don't focus on gameplay.

    • @Kaarl_Mills
      @Kaarl_Mills Před 5 lety +1

      its the same hipster/auteur kind of bull they eat up like snack cakes, so its a very honest and easy mistake to make

  • @jknifgijdfui
    @jknifgijdfui Před 2 lety +3

    I find it funny how he has the same points ign did but everyone agrees with him here but disagrees with ign

  • @Starphoenix
    @Starphoenix Před 5 lety

    "The fuck up was in you all along!"
    Truly, words to live by... Or be set on fire to...

  • @Nolan183
    @Nolan183 Před 4 lety +1

    had the same experience with Ashen...the game is designed around 2 competent players but it's really just you vs the world. Plus, every single combat encounter is an ambush.

  • @Ouvii
    @Ouvii Před 5 lety +8

    I'm so glad that CZcams is smart enough to only recommend Yahtzee to me so that I don't have to subscribe to all the other stuff on this channel.

  • @NeverStark
    @NeverStark Před 4 lety +9

    I really enjoyed Gris, unchallenging though it was. The concept of playing a story rather than just watching one really worked for me - and I found the controls responsive and fluid (even literally, in parts where you glide effortlessly in and out of water.) The musical elements of the game were impressive, too - and the visuals tied perfectly into the story. By the end, I actually felt moved. I'll probably play though it again just for the relaxing, emotional experience. I really appreciate the impressive effort to engage players on a journey through trauma from loss.

  • @CrayfishCraig
    @CrayfishCraig Před 5 lety

    I lost it at
    “The fuck up was in you all along”
    At 5:30

  • @abdulrahmanalhamali1707
    @abdulrahmanalhamali1707 Před 3 lety +10

    I found Gris to be a great game. Yes, the gameplay wasn't that challenging, but it was not boring either. And the experience was very immersive and enjoyable

  • @kickkrispy6464
    @kickkrispy6464 Před 5 lety +8

    I honestly enjoy ashen but i must say that the multiplayer sucks unless you actually have someone to run through the whole game with you.

    • @danteclayborne5462
      @danteclayborne5462 Před 5 lety +1

      I liked Ashen. I would even say it was a good KMart Souls clone. I had a buddy to play with so it wasn't that bad.

  • @alwaysasn
    @alwaysasn Před 2 lety

    For some reason when I cast this to my TV screen it started playing the Hitman review. Was super confused.

  • @ShadowLynx777
    @ShadowLynx777 Před 5 lety

    "The fuck up was in you all along!" - Yahtzee 2019

  • @zwergz1122
    @zwergz1122 Před 5 lety +3

    Am I the only one who loves how begrudgingly he says "GRIS" every time

  • @RossZ428
    @RossZ428 Před 5 lety +3

    Having beaten Ashen, I agree with Yahtzee regarding most everything he said, although I didn't find it boring. I thought it was a fun, though short, experience.
    Re: co-op. You have the option to disable AI companions. You also have the option to enable multiplayer filtering with a code. If you and a friend put in the same code, you can play together. Doing that, I avoided many of the multiplayer issues Yahtzee had.

  • @AsharOzborne95
    @AsharOzborne95 Před 4 lety +2

    And to add another round of healing salt in the wound for Griiieyh, Gris ( no silent letters) literally means pig in Norwegian.
    Needless to say i tittered like an overly excited schoolboy who has just learned that their substitute teacher has a really unfortunate name that is rife for mockery.

  • @8ight8ight12
    @8ight8ight12 Před 5 lety +1

    "Keep advancing along a linear string of areas so that you can do side quests in them."
    Borderlands?

  • @DarknessInferno15
    @DarknessInferno15 Před 5 lety +8

    I just realized, he's never played Celeste.

  • @TindraSan
    @TindraSan Před 5 lety +6

    as someone who's swedish, I can't take the title "Gris" seriously XD

    • @TheBarser
      @TheBarser Před 4 lety

      As a danish person I am with you. It is just too funny in an immature way. Look at our beautiful artsy game. It is called PIG

    • @Rex13013
      @Rex13013 Před 4 lety

      That's hilarious. For me, a Puerto Rican, "Gris" is the same thing as in French I guess, it still means gray in Spanish but you actually pronounce the "s" in it.

  • @billveusay9423
    @billveusay9423 Před 5 lety +1

    As a french person, hearing Yathzee yelling "Grrrrrrrrrris" is even more hilarious ^^ (Same goes for the pretentiousness joke)

  • @dropbear2616
    @dropbear2616 Před 5 lety

    Man i can't wait for *THE BAG*

  • @casbyness
    @casbyness Před 5 lety +4

    What if Ashen is secretly a new Turing test? :)

    • @dydlus
      @dydlus Před 5 lety +2

      I can already imagine the new tagline.
      "Ashen: AI so realistic, you won't tell the difference between a normal moron and an AI moron!"

  • @shadowfalcon1269
    @shadowfalcon1269 Před 5 lety +26

    Isn’t just me or a lot of indie title are in french in 2018
    Edit: maybe the title of this ones is spanish idk

    • @CrossPak
      @CrossPak Před 5 lety +9

      is not french, is spanish

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety +2

      GRIS isn't French.

    • @shadowfalcon1269
      @shadowfalcon1269 Před 5 lety +2

      Ok so I hope you are all kidding.
      I especially said “in french” not “french titles”.
      What it means is that the title is in the french language.

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety +8

      @@shadowfalcon1269 It's in Spanish, genius. Way to double down.

    • @ultgamercw6759
      @ultgamercw6759 Před 5 lety

      it's 2019...

  • @TheDoctorOfThrills
    @TheDoctorOfThrills Před 4 lety +2

    Remember when games like Gris were free to play on Armor Games or Newgrounds?

  • @fumeister0992
    @fumeister0992 Před 4 lety +1

    2019 best predictions by yahtzee

    • @h0riz0n45
      @h0riz0n45 Před 4 lety

      Fumeister 099 Wasn't it Most Impactful game? Or did it win Best Art Direction as well?

  • @davidsavage519
    @davidsavage519 Před 5 lety +92

    I almost bought this but I got Celeste instead. Yahtzee confirmed my suspicions about Gris. I swear everyone else in the industry is paid off.

    • @derrinerrow4369
      @derrinerrow4369 Před 5 lety +18

      Yahtzee should review Celeste someday. I got it with Xbox's games with gold and had some fun.

    • @ooshaboy29
      @ooshaboy29 Před 5 lety +39

      Despite both being 2D platformers Celeste and Gris are pretty much polar opposites.
      Celeste is all about mechanically amazing platforming surrounded by a layer of emotional indie bullshit.
      Gris is a mechanically sound platformer built around a core of emotional indie bullshit, smart level design, jaw dropping art, incredible music and perfect sound design.
      If you're looking for a hard game you will not like Gris. It requires *some* thought and *some* mechanical skill, but it's not a difficult game. And if you ask me, that's fine. Not every game needs to push the player to their limits. Sometimes a more relaxed, emotional experience which just envelops you for a few hours is what you want.
      If you're the type of person who gets a lot out of listening to albums front to back, you'll probably love Gris. If not, you won't.

    • @BoostedMonkey05
      @BoostedMonkey05 Před 5 lety +5

      He fucking changed his mind about celeste the bastard... He said he liked it when he was doing a chill stream with it. Then he said in his review of Katamari Damacy Reroll is that he doesn't like it.

    • @marnsdnfois7006
      @marnsdnfois7006 Před 5 lety

      @Vazazell Wow, you definitely know what you're talking about.

    • @BFedie518
      @BFedie518 Před 5 lety +2

      He just (kinda) reviewed Celeste actually. It's a small bit of this week's review on the Escapist site.

  • @the3diamonds472
    @the3diamonds472 Před 5 lety +3

    I like how he was name off Dark Souls starting areas but couldn't do Dark Souls 3 because it also has Firelink Shrine.

  • @tylerduncanson2661
    @tylerduncanson2661 Před 5 lety

    The “ai might actually be a person” trick also works to hide shitty ai.

  • @NotOnlyMagicMan
    @NotOnlyMagicMan Před 5 lety

    Hey have you tried out the VR game blind yet? Worth taking a look at.

  • @mistprowen3157
    @mistprowen3157 Před 5 lety +3

    One of these days, I want to see an actual walking simulator, except have it be tough as balls and the main challenge is to try and walk through a single hallway full of vicious man eating snakes and poisonous spiders.

  • @ISoulreaverI
    @ISoulreaverI Před 5 lety +141

    Gris is a great reminder what happens when "games are art" is taken too far and we make something that is so artsy that we forget it's actually supposed to be a videogame at some point.
    Or in other words: We have gone from all game and no art to all art and no game. Well played indie devs.

    • @LydCal999
      @LydCal999 Před 5 lety +6

      The Razielim I played it and it's more of a puzzle game than a platformer

    • @ZetaStriker0000
      @ZetaStriker0000 Před 5 lety +22

      I'd personally argue that it's more of an emotional experience than a game, and that's why the company markets it as such. Yahtzee is right that it would be disappointing as a platformer, what the game excels at is using music, art and platforming gameplay as a metaphor for the emotional experience of losing a loved one, specifically in going through the 5-stage cycle of grief. The fact that Yahtzee both didn't understand the story and only judged its gameplay shows he didn't really get that, but these types of games are pretty niche so I think it's totally fair for him - and others - not to like it. As someone who lost his sister a number of years ago though, an artistic metaphor for dealing with a family member's death really hit home for me.

    • @TheWoostergirl
      @TheWoostergirl Před 5 lety +8

      @@ZetaStriker0000 The gries part exist only because the game told you so, there's litterally no signs of it in the story since there's no story to begin with. Also I find it really perplexing that one can make a game about grief and at the same time describe it as "serene and free of danger".

    • @Sunderfury
      @Sunderfury Před 5 lety +28

      @@ZetaStriker0000 You see, the problem here is not that someone didn't get that oh so wondrous niche experience reserved for the select few who have experienced the true grief of this terrible world. It's that it's completely worthless to present your story in a medium for whose mechanics you don't give a shit. If you want to present your story as a game, you should take advantage of the fact that it's the only truly interactive medium to incorporate that function into how you tell the story, immersing the player by having them mentally take the place of the character they are in control of. If you're going to just write a short film and then intersperse token gameplay segments for the player to move from one chapter to the next, you're wasting everyone's time and insulting the medium of choice.
      In other words, the OP has it wrong. Art and game are not separate opposite elements for which a balance must be struck. Art can be expressed through game mechanics, and done so wonderfuly, but if you're just stringing cinematics together with bad gameplay for the sake of the player moving from one scene to the next, just go make a movie instead.

    • @TheDakattack3000
      @TheDakattack3000 Před 5 lety +13

      Your last part of the comment makes no sense. Games, all games no matter how they are looked at, are art. As for the game itself, Gris is really no different than other games like Obra Dinn or Journey they just express themselves through environmental design than narrative. And what's wrong with a game not "feeling like a game"? Isn't the point of games is to draw you into it's world and immerse you, trying to make you forget real life for a moment and enjoy the world it offers? That's basically the same thing Souls games do and yet no one dares combat that (and that can arguably have mediocre gameplay, long walking sections, ambiguous story telling and such). What makes it any different? Sure challenge but not all games can or have to be challenging to be loved or be immersed in. It's all in how the experience you feel at the end of the game is what matters.

  • @camerapunk4109
    @camerapunk4109 Před 5 lety

    “The Bag” lol

  • @cgreenham999
    @cgreenham999 Před 5 lety

    Where can I purchase "The Bag" and does it have a platinum trophy?

  • @Pile_of_carbon
    @Pile_of_carbon Před 5 lety +5

    Gris is pig in Swedish, making the description really hilarious to read.

  • @2Rice
    @2Rice Před 5 lety +7

    I enjoyed Gris. It was beautiful, and the platforming was well planned. It would introduce a new platforming concept via the environment before presenting a new platforming challenging with that new concept integrated in it. And the whole "don't have to backtrack": I've noticed that there are actually secrets you can access by notices things out of the norm. Why you would want to collect these bonus "stars" I have no idea, but they are there. Also, each time a new color is added, it actually changes the previous areas, but they look so different its hard to notice.
    TLDR: Relaxing, beautiful, decent puzzles. At least worth it's price on steam.

  • @fakename9820
    @fakename9820 Před 5 lety

    "the fuck up was in you all along" quote of the year
    beating "knai!" (low bar but hey year just started)

  • @RavenStorm332
    @RavenStorm332 Před 5 lety

    Ashen's "CO-OP" is set so the person that joins you has to be on the same quest as you are. I tried it with a friend on XBone and couldn't figure it out because the game is easy to far ahead of everyone else early on. So in order to play with a friend you have to start the game at the exact same time. Then to top it off on your screen they will be controlling the NPC that's with you while on their screen you're controlling the NPC that's with them.

  • @johnsmith-eo3nz
    @johnsmith-eo3nz Před 5 lety +6

    Ashension has taken place.
    Warning gris-ly bear approaching with a slap of extremely terrible puns

    • @Changetheling
      @Changetheling Před 5 lety

      Terrible puns rock, paper and scissors, all in one.

  • @Big_Bad_Gammon
    @Big_Bad_Gammon Před 2 lety +3

    I liked GRIS. Definitely one of my favourite games ever.

  • @ManoredRed
    @ManoredRed Před 5 lety +2

    3:50 complaining about a map, Yahtzee is officially hardcore.

  • @hishamsmo4770
    @hishamsmo4770 Před 5 lety +12

    Oh yeah yeah yahtzee I love your review

  • @STHUltra
    @STHUltra Před 3 lety +3

    I hate that he calls it gri instead of Gris which is the Spanish word for grey. The only complaint I have about the review

    • @b4byj3susm4n
      @b4byj3susm4n Před rokem +1

      He’s British. Therefore more familiar with French than Spanish (even if he should have looked to see it was dev’d in Barcelona). And since French “gris” and Spanish “gris” are spelt the same, he assumed the French pronunciation. Understandable, since “French” is often jokingly synonymous with “pretentious,” as the game was the latter to him anyhow.