RED WINGS TRADE DEADLINE PREVIEW & LARKIN'S INJURY - Winged Wheel Podcast - Mar. 6th, 2024
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- It's almost Trade Deadline time, which means it's time for us to do the impossible: discuss what Steve Yzerman might do.
Tune in as we open with Detroit Red Wings news, the unfortunate development of Dylan Larkin's injury, what it mean's for Hockeytown's playoff push, Veleno stepping in with DeBrincat and Kane, Kasper or other Griffins not coming up, how Raymond & others have to step up, & more on Lalonde's squad (3:55).
Next, we analyze the flurry of trades that have already taken place in the NHL, including the movement of players WHILE we recorded: Hanifin, Byram, Middelstadt, Walker, Henrique, Tarasenko, Mantha, & others. Also, how the Flyers selling could help the Red Wings (15:15).
After that, we discuss Detroit's needs at the deadline, and whether Yzerman will go for help on offense (Guentzel? Buchnevich? Rust?), defense (Chychrun?), or goalie (Markstrom?), or some other unforeseen move. We also discuss offloading Holl or other defensive contracts, & what we're hearing through the rumor mill (31:35).
Importantly, Detroit's salary cap situation with Moritz Seider and Lucas Raymond's next contracts being negotiated, and what that means for the coming years. (51:20)
All of that & lots more before we take your questions and comments during our Overtime segment (1:01:50) - enjoy!
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Don’t buy, don’t sell. See if you can get to the playoffs with this squad while keeping everything in tact. Resign Kane and Perron. Bring up Edvinsson. The Yzerplan doesn’t fit our immediate needs, but a great team that is sustainable in just a few years is worth pushing forward
Defense looked absolutely pedestrian at best but realistically it was nonexistent. How were we being outsped by their entire roster?! not just Nate. Letting so many odd man rushes and just losing races with them charging straight at our net. Easily Seiders worst game of his career. Bad penalties. No puck possession either. Plain awful.
With what it took for Vegas to get Hanafin, I can’t imagine why Steve wouldn’t be willing to pay that, and I really wish he would have. Would really help our D-core.
At this point I’m just really hoping Steve doesn’t see these past 3 games, and the Larkin injury and decides to sell
Wings fans SHOULD KNOW Stevie Y by now. He doesn't over react under pressure. He sticks to his long term plan pretty much NO MATTER WHAT!
No way Yzerman is making a move, 2nd best prospect pool in the NHL and the fact that this team is still in it and can play good hockey when healthy (i.e. when Larkin is healthy), he takes the chance and sees what we can do this year. Think back to October everyone, the highest expectation was meaningful games coming down the stretch and that's what we're getting. There's still time for this team, LGRW! And I know it's sacrilege for a Wings fan to say this but as a hockey fan, my God, is Colorado good. if the Wings aren't going on a deep run this year, a Avs/Panthers final would be insane.
Yeah! I got mentioned!! WHOO-HOO!!!
Larkin would not have mattered last night. The Aves were on jets and it seemed they were getting revenge for the loss to the Red Wings last time.
Really bad is correct when talking about petry
I don't normally believe in curses, but my god get rid of that stupid Priority patch. Team is playing like trash, even Mo is playing like trash.
The Avs game today is the first game all season I couldn't finish watching.
Same
@@FOGNLnetworkYou didn't miss much, 7-2
Mo is vastly overrated by the fan base. Obviously still young, but second year in a row that he’s not improving…bad sign.
I know superstition is dumb, but why in the world did we change our jerseys on a 6 game win streak? I hate these patches.
@chrismills8255 he plays the hardest minutes in the league dude. You think he's the next Dekeyser?
It appears most fans are unaware of ECL contracts........ Thus why Edvinsson not called up
33 min. What does Detroit need? Depth scoring?? How many players in Detroit have 10+ goals this season? DEFENSE is the linchpin right now for the Redwings. Also maybe if we have a D with grit/fight Larkin wouldn't get banged around as much
What is this the clueless bandwagon comments thread?? LET ME REMIND EVERYONE. Yzerman already made up his mind on what he wants to do in January(just like he did last year) not just a week ago. I believe Yzerman stays put with this current roster and calls any result a win cuz of the statistical improvements. Idk why we're still getting prospects complaints in mid-late season but seriously zip it, it's old. Everyone is acting like the sky is falling being chased by a mid NYI playoff team.
Jesus! Thank you for having a rational take on this. It smells terrible in this comment section, what with everyone shitting their diapers and acting like a bunch of babies. Enjoy the ride and have belief until the end. Otherwise, get out, or at least STFU!
The comments in here are just wow! And I didnt think anyone could be more pessimistic than me lol.
Lucas Raymond agent are JP.Barry, the same agent as Pasta, Barzal and Dougie.H and so on.. Its not gone be an 8 year deal here, No way.
Moritz Seider agent are Claude Lemieux, No way he gone let his client sign a 8 year deal, not gone happening.
Steve Yzerman can be happy if he manages to sign both of these for 6 year contracts, I expect it to land around 3/5 year contracts. Which is good for RW, as they can both be signed at max length on their second contracts and take them both to the age of 30 without fitting the 30 year mark which takes them well into their mid 30's and past their prime, as a bad contract.
Where are Kasper, Wallander, and Edvinsson? So frustrating not EVEN getting a look.
No way is SY burning ECL years off these guys contracts this season.
@@mkpm90 he can give them less than 9 games.
What’s the point in 9 games tho? So they can loose there confidence when there sent back down on 1-2 points -rating and mess up there flow in GR? Make sense of things? Plus besides edvinsson, he’s the only one even some what close to being called up and even then idk…if he’s this superstar prospect everyone makes him out to be I think he’d been up by now, no? I think he’ll be great but not what everyone thinks
I think Kasper's ceiling is a 3C utility center, hopefully a shut down defensive faceoff specialist.
So I would not be surprised if he is with GRG until the very end of his waiver status expiring.
So... emergency podcast tonight, boys? 😂
😂 almost
He’s not going to move anyone and we lose getting anything for Bergren.
Berggy is a RFA, he can't go anywhere
Veleno is a good 4th line center and that is all he will ever be. He is not going to get any better.
Sell and bring up the kids please. We were skating in quick sand last night
No way is SY burning ECL years off these young guys contracts this season.
@@mkpm90 it's ELC contracts. ENTRY LEVEL CONTRACT. not ECL 😂.
Colorado thumped this team and Vegas did get Hannifin
We just got PUMPED by the Avs. We looked horrible. Not speaking out of emotion, we looked HORRIBLE. I really don’t think we’re going to make it boys. Call it a doomer take, but it looks bad. They looked worse than I’ve seen all season. I truly can’t recall a game last year where we looked this bad.
They’re still in the first wildcard spot, take a deep breath. It’s not over till it’s over.
Honestly, if you don't have belief until it's OFFICIALLY over, then go away or at least STFU.
Want to improve your defence? Call up edvinsson/johansson .. we’re in no position to be adding guys shorterm when we won’t be winning squat. Heck even pens now if they win the games in hand will be 4 pts back
We’re not even certain to make the playoffs . Add someone young with term or call up the kids giving up top assets and adding buchnevich or vatrano,chychrun makes zero sense when they can walk in 2025
And stay the f*ck away from Brian rust
For those of you saying this is the best Red Wings podcast you should really check out Locked On Red Wings, by the time Winged Wheel releases an episode it's old news and not up to date
This podcast is a completely different format that locked on. Plus if you really want to know what news breaks, you can find that out quicker than any podcast can produce pal. Just watch whatever podcast you like, or watch them all, like most of us do.
Locked on is a snore! All they do is complain.
@@poorrichard4165 lmao not they don't, not at all. Brad is by FAR the most negative of all the Red Wings podcasters.
@@Winged_Wagon_Nation yea Lock on isn't just news, they release episodes every weekday and talk about the games the same night. I do listen to all of them, just saying that Locked On is the best and it's not even close.
@@danb239 I guess it depends what you are looking to get out of a podcast, I personally like the winged wheel guys personality and banter. Plus I believe they speak at a higher level about hockey related news. But that’s just my opinion. I also watch Scotty on locked on tigers.
I'm sorry but if we don't clear out some guys on the blue line for Johansson or Edvinsson to be called up, this is an absolute failure. Petry and Holl suck. Edvinsson cannot be worse than them. Also, if we don't clear out a forward spot or move Berggren, that's another failure. He clearly has no intent in being in the organization (and I don't blame him) so move him. Whether it's buying for a big piece or selling off a couple guys to make room for Griffins, just do something. Standing pat at the deadline and doing nothing would be a disaster. Also, re: Seider and Raymond, I can't believe if you told me this at the beginning of the year, but I'd more take the gamble of signing Raymond long term than Seider. My guess is both sign extensions the same day for the same amounts. 6 years x $7 mill
The Holl signing was baffling, they could have signed a cheaper dman economy style.
Petry, well it was nostalgia and hopefully it ends that sort of thinking.
Hated to see Edvinsson go for another GRG season
I dont mean to be "that guy" I dont get where people think this is a good team and a team that can compete in the playoffs (if they even make it lol) I dont see it even in a few years just way too many holes everywhere. Lyon is below average (statistically) our defense is laughable and though Raymond and Seider have taken a step it wasn't the step we thought. This is not a contender and won't be for a while. We can beat bad teams all day but when it comes to competing against good teams we aren't good enough.
Time for Steve to sell. This is a repeat of last year's back to back beatings from Ottawa
No it’s not, they’re still in the first wildcard spot. Just need to beat Arizona and Buffalo 4 times. We’ll be ok
No, it's not. We played two of the top teams and lost. Wouldn't read too much into the losses yet.
It’s not. We are up in the wildcard still. Stop it
Thats a little extreme, Colorado and Florida are two of the best two teams in the league Ottawa wasn't even a playoff team
Yes sell because this team is not good enough to be a playoff team with a slow defense and terrible faceoff percent that puts them in bad spots on the power play and penalty kill. I get you lose some faceoffs but closer to 50/50 not 80/20 it happened last night 5 seconds into a penalty we lose faceoff give up goal.
Lyon has cooled and Dylan is out at least 6 more games and how many more comeback wins will we have.
We should put a price on guys that should be traded and see if a team meets that price if so sell and clear cap space for extensions.
I’m tired of these veterans on this team. I want Edvinsson. Edvinsson should be up here already. Berggren should’ve been up here all season. I’d rather watch younger players make mistakes and learn then watch meaningless hockey from vets who are not going to be here in the future. Other teams are sticking young players in there lineups and they are learning and growing.
No way is SY burning ECL years off these young guys contracts this season.
@@mkpm90*ELC
SELL
said a whole lot of nothing
Seider is very overrated!