Here's Why We Must Believe In The Eucharist
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Jesus' real presence in the Eucharist cannot be overstated. Christ's own words in Scripture are very clear when it comes to the Eucharist: "This is my body." We must believe in the Eucharist because Christ says that we will "have no life within" us without the Eucharist.
0:00 - Intro
0:22 - The Last Supper
0:47 - John Chapter 6
2:50 - It's Not A Metaphor
5:15 - Why Judas Betrayed Jesus
5:52 - A Priest's Perspective On The Eucharist
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What the heck is this???? I'm starting to love this channel...
Ameeeeeeeeeen.
This is the True Presence, TLM, Truth and Tradition, by 2 devout Priests, just the way Our Lord Jesus Christ, God of gods, wants it so that we do not stray onto paths of lies and corruption of the evil 1 hiding behind yoga, New Age practices and paganism, just for the salvation of our souls and the whole world.
These are the Norbertines of St. Michael's Abbey. They are located in Orange County CA
Exactly! Same here. Fascinating stuff!
Like seriously
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O Lord Jesus Christ, grant us many holy priests!
Grant us many holy religious vocations!
Grant us many holy catholic families!
Fathers! We are praying for you! We need you! Keep Speaking Truth!
Whenever you feel alone, just remember there are thousands and thousands of us out here praying for you!
If anyone else is reading this please remember to hold the line of righteousness and pray for our church leadership.
Real men being Real men!
So glad this channel found me
Same!❤
Me too❤✝️
"It is the dividing line between the true disciple of Jesus and those who will not follow him."
How excellently put, Fathers. It is so moving and joyful to hear Catholic clergy speaking of our Lord Jesus Christ and His reception with the reverence He so deeply deserves. Please, keep the videos coming, they are a true gift. May our Lord Jesus bless & protect you all!
The 3 building blocks of Catholic Theology are based on Sacred Scripture, Sacred Traditions, and the Magisterium of the Church.
This priest misquotes a scriptural a verse from (Luke 22:19) and the priest adds his own comment to the verse, "We must believe in the Eucharist because Christ says that we will "have no life within" us without the Eucharist." Those are his words! Not the Words of Christ. NOT what was written in Sacred Scripture by the Holy Spirit of God.
Priest don't have the right to change scripture anytime they want. This priest actions demonstrates how oral traditions of the Catholic Church are so dangerous and misguided, and mislead the faithful. See (Mark 7:6-9) as to what Christ said to the Pharisees about oral traditions.
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John 6:54 And so, Jesus said to them: “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you will not have life in you.
1 Corinthians 11:24 and giving thanks, he broke it, and said: “Take and eat. This is my body, which shall be given up for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
1 Corinthians 11:25 Similarly also, the cup, after he had eaten supper, saying: “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
1 Corinthians 11:26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord, until he returns.
1 Corinthians 11:27 And so, whoever eats this bread, or drinks from the cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be liable of the body and blood of the Lord.
1 Corinthians 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and, in this way, let him eat from that bread, and drink from that cup.
1 Corinthians 11:29 For whoever eats and drinks unworthily, eats and drinks a sentence against himself, not discerning it to be the body of the Lord.
Something that has always puzzled and impressed me is this joy and calm these monastics radiate. It is not the superficial and fake joy that is almost tiring, but a deeper one. When you have made your choice to follow the holy path, to live for the heavenly and divine and the earthly no longer attracts, what inner peace you must have.
Amen... Glory to God 🙏😊
I love listening to stmichealsabbey these Priest are amazing
It is a grace and gift of the Holy Spirit that we are able to fill our cup and be encouraged through these teachings. God bless you and protect you from the evil one.
Jesus give us .ore convets like this priest.They certainly know how to preach Gid Bless🙏🙏🙏
I’m grateful I have come across this channel. It was a Norbertine in England that helped convert me and my family. Thank you for your ministry.
Thank you and God bless you, Fr. Sebastian and Fr. Ambrose. ✝️🙏🏻
So glad he said when the priest shows more faith in the body and blood of Christ in the eucharist so do the people.
I was also protestant and I find it astonishing how both Catholics and protestants don't believe In the Real presence of jesus in the eucharist. I feel his presence so powerfully and clearly that I couldn't deny it even if a gun were put to my head. His body enters our body and I don't know how anyone can't feel this
What saddens me the most is when a priest gives Jesus to me, receiving Jesus on my tongue reverently and the priest literally drops the host and pull his hand away looking so afraid. Same goes with this one Eucharistic minister in a church I go to now and again. A man who faithfully reads the Word daily and assist in the mass. May God open their hearts and minds to what they are doing. 😢❤🙏
It was a mortal sin for the laity to touch the Eucharistie before the CVII, just saying. HOW is important too.@CatholicDefender-bp7my
Padre Pio certainly is a great example of the miracle & sacredness of the Eucharist & Holy Mass !
This was a hard concept for me to understand, when I converted from Baptist and became Catholic. It was as if all the time I was Baptist, I had never read John 6. When I read these words with fresh eyes, I fell to my knees and cried out, "My Lord and my God." I know exactly how St. Peter felt in that moment, like a lost little puppy. I don't understand what you are saying Lord, but I will follow you anywhere. Watching this video, I want to go worship with these men!
It is Truly a Blessing, being able to attend Mass with Fr Sebastian! My Family & I were blessed to have met him, before Mass & it was such a Beautiful Experience. You see the Presence of God, in him. He has such a Beautiful Gift from God, performing Mass! May God, continue to bless you Fr. Sebastian!
Thankyou Fathers, and God bless you.
I truly believe in the Eucharistic bread and wine. Look at the miracles of this bread with the presence of the body of Christ. 🙏🏻
Very excited to be a part of the Eucharistic revival this year! Last year in NH was a very spiritual and wonderful experience, I highly recommend everyone to attend! Great video, thanks for your channel! God bless🙏🏼
Really appreciate the high quality content St. Michael's Abbey!
Perfectly explained! Prots always have to twist themselves into pretzels in order to deny the Eucharist, otherwise their whole belief system falls apart. 🥨🥨
Also, the reason so many Catholics aren’t properly approaching the Eucharist is because we’re allowed to receive in the hand while standing, and because of the use of EMOHC during Mass.
How can we expect people to believe in the Real Presence when the Eucharist is treated so poorly in Mass???
EXACTLY!!!! The Reverence has diminished substantially and the direct result is that fewer and fewer believe in the real presence!!! When you treat the Eucharist like it’s not much more than a Ritz Cracker what do you expect?
Amen! Praise praise God!
Thank you for creating this beautiful content, we live in the area where st Norbert was born, and to see such a vibrant community of Norbertines is a true blessing.
Please continue to bring these teachings to the light. This makes it condensed and easy to understand for those who refuse to do their own homework.
I just discovered this gem, and wow I am amazed
Do you think the lacking level of reverence in many novus ordo masses contributes significantly to many church going Catholics not believing in the real presence?
I think they perform the NO Mass at this abbey.
Absolutely and with an evil agenda to stray away from Truth and Tradition.
VII has nothing to do with it. The world entering the Church has everything to do with it.
This channel is beautiful both for the content of its doctrinal formation and also for the magnificent production, formality and setting of the videos.
Will be following and praying for all the priests and seminarians at the Abbey. God Bless you!
This channel is reaching so many. Thank you 🙏
there is no better way of receiving Him than kneeling and on the tongue instead of on the hand like handing out a common bread! Our priests should start doing this, instead of letting the lay faithful decide how to receive Him. Believe me, the people will just voluntarily fall on their knees once they see the kneelers and it is the priest giving holy Communion on the tongue.
Thank you St Michael's Abbey, for doing such a wonderful job here. Your explanations are inspiring me to take my faith more seriously, you make me grateful to be Catholic. God bless you all.
Holy Holy Holy 🙏🙏🙏
Glory and Honor and Praise to our Most Holy Trinity 🙏🙏🙏
Beautiful teaching! Thank you for opening my mind ❤
What amazing insight into Judas' betrayal and tying together his denial of Jesus in John 6 and at the Last Supper. 5:22 Those two moments are tied together because Jesus is talking about eating his flesh and drinking his blood. Thank you Fr. Sebastian. I also like the color commentary, "I've had enough" and "oh this again", which helps to drive home the point. This helps to prove the teaching of the Real Presence! Amazing!
Channel is excellent. Thank you
Praise God Alleluia 🙌 🙏 praying for all your Intentions Amen 🙏 🙌
High quality content, high quality production. 👍
Thank you for your insight, Father Sebastian. You always help shed light on topics that I later discuss with relatives when I see them
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written: “But the righteous one will live by faith.”
The Holy Eucharist "IS" the Gospel. Keep seeking. Reduce trolling. God will smile.
Excellent presentation! Thank you!
Beautiful. What else can be said. I've never heard it so clearly. The Eucharist is truly what has convinced me of the faith. Great work, Fathers!
Thank you, for this insightful discussion. I recently rejoined my parish from my Holy Rites days, and I have been abstaining from the Eucharist, since missing Mass for so long. This discussion is leading me down the path I wish to take, to receive the Eucharist, with reverence and awe, and appreciation I have not had before. Now I’m starting to understand the gravity
Thanksgiving for all blessings, graces, gifts and our Catholic Faith! I thank you ❤
Thank you for these excellent, educational videos.
I live in SA and I truly believe. I just wish we could receive it on the tongue again🙏🙏✝️
I find it ironic as well, that people have said, that he meant scripture, which ironically in chapter 5, Jesus denounces. For myself, I see a connection that his body a blood was his life of self sacrifice that he wants us to partake in. We never learn from, or make a difference in our own or anyone else's life if we or those around us don't produce fruits. I also see his body as representative of Martha and Mary, and how the 2 combined, (though one greater), becomes a perfect sacrifice, good works combined with fraternal love. Though deeply mysterious, not senseless at all, something that needs to non-the less to transform us. If we are the living body of Christ on earth, then we must become eucharist for others to share in as well. It takes our sinful desire to be closed in, and live a life that is sacrificial. This at least is my take on it (so far).
Saved by Grace through faith, the gift of God in us working through love. Ephesians 2:9-10.
Catholic teaching. Problem?
@@HAL9000-su1mz Berean way to check all things according to scripture👍
Bereans? Scripture caused them to completely miss a small detail: JESUS CHRIST! BWAAAAHAAAHAA!!!
@@HAL9000-su1mz Are you kidding? Paul lauded the Bereans for their devotion to Christ and His Word.
@@brianguglielmin2873 Sola scriptura did not reveal Christ to them. Despite living, breathing, studying, reading and discussing scripture 24/7/365, they remained in the dark until Paul ORALLY preached Christ to them. Even then they demanded written proof. I pray that they were saved.
Thanks for this so interesting explanations. Catholics lack so much from this type of biblical doctrine. This is my opinion
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Great content, pure beauty hidden in catholic teaching. Thanks a lot from Slovak republic †
Great videos, love this channel
Thank you for this video ❤️🙏🙏🙏
Why else would our Savior allow so many followers to leave him upon hearing these words? Even to the point of asking His own apostles if they also would leave? In this short video is everything needed for any person truly open to the truth within Scripture to see that Christ was indeed and without question telling us of His Real Presence in the Eucharist.
Thanks Fr. Sebastian & Fr. Ambrose!
Thank you father 🙏🏻
Yes!!! Spot on regarding the example of reverence given by the priest to the Holy Eucharist will only instill reverence in the members of the body of Christ …
Im enlightened ! Thanks to you our devout catholic priests
4:50 Such a good point although it is a tried and true Catholic rhetoric. Id like to try and add a personal touch, im sure im not the first but your video has made me think about this idea of, why didnt jesus correct them? Well some might say that oh they left jesus so why should he go after those who rejected him? Well, Christ is the good shepherd who leaves the 99 for just 1, and that he is the one who tells the story of the father in wait for the prodigal son, he forgives peter and actively seeks peters apology, he doesnt let peter just let is slip under his mercy but rather he makes it easy for peter to say sorry, by saying peter do you love me? even when christ is angry, he takes the time to correct: "you hypocrites" when christ is furious he corrects "zeal for his hpuse shall consume him" at the temple. when he is indifferent he corrects "you have no power over me but what has been given to you." to pilate, and when he corrects even his own high priest caiphas, he is authoritative "I AM"
only a jesus who would have let peter sink into the water and drown, not calmed the storm, stopped the children from coming to him, and not washed the feet of his disciplies, would have let the multititude leave him over a misunderstanding.
It’s absolutely true
AMEN
Amen.
Could someone tell me what’s the song at the end of this masterpiece video ??
Jesus says its eating Bread and drinking wine Luke 22:18 picturing Himself to be given for us once and for all on the Cross to come. He fulfills all rituals and feasts of Old Covenant. We receive Him of course by faith in the New Covenant Christ our Lord.❤
Amazing channel! I've learned so much! Bavo!!!!
I think this year is going to be different. The people who come on Easter and Christmas might really believe in the Eucharist but they don't believe in our teachings throughout the year. A lot of people seem afraid to follow the ACTs and Gospel after Easter and after Christmas. We should not be afraid. We shall love the Eucharist. Of course it's only in the form of actual bread and wine. And no we do NOT get drunk off of it. Give the wine to the God's faithful, no one shall get drunk.
🤍👍. Very clear presentation. Great conclusion at the end.
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This is good wisdom.
ad orientem and gregorian chants need a comeback.
I'm a Lutheran, we believe that Christ is truly present in the Eucharist.
Unfortunately my friend it is not, as Lutherans neither have apostolic succession or the form for it to be valid. It is bread and grape juice, nothing more. Come back to Christ’s church
Apologies for the long comment... The language employed by the Savior was in accordance with a common mode of speaking among the Jews, and exactly similar to that used by Moses at the institution of the Passover Exodus 12:11; "It" - that is, the lamb - "is the Lord's Passover." That is, the lamb and the feast "represent" the Lord's "passing over" the houses of the Israelites. It serves to remind you of it. It surely cannot be meant that that lamb was the literal "passing over" their houses - a palpable absurdity - but that it represented it. So Paul and Luke say of the bread, "This is my body broken for you: this do in remembrance of me." This expresses the whole design of the sacramental bread. It is to call to "remembrance," in a vivid manner, the dying sufferings of our Lord. The sacred writers, moreover, often denote that one thing is represented by another by using the word 'is'. See Matthew 13:37; "He that soweth the good seed 'is' the Son of man" - that is, represents the Son of man. Genesis 41:26; "the seven good cows 'are' seven years" - that is, "represent" or signify seven years. See also John 15:1, John 15:5; Genesis 17:10. The meaning of this important passage may be thus expressed: "As I give this broken bread to you to eat, so will I deliver my body to be afflicted and slain for your sins." Thank you for your time. Feedback is always welcome!
and this is why the people are more mad because Jesus doubles down and he is even younger than I, and I can believe he is God as well :-) Sooo awesome.
His cerebral narcissism is heartbreaking. He's an evil priest. Father, we ask you to change for the sake of us the laity, your children, your bride, we GREATLY NEED YOU. Prayers for you as well and God bless your heart...we deeply care for you.
John 6
Why do we only take one species ? Why not the blood? Jesus said “ my body AND ( not or ) my blood .” I wish I could find a Church that provides both.
It's about time you should pass to the next level by knowing and learning the gospel of salvation for us gentiles :
That Jesus Christ already have paid for all our sins when He died on the cross, was buried and rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
He resurrected in power and victory over sin, death and Hades.
Now He has the keys of death and Hades.
Do you believe it?
1 corinthians 15.1-4
Our Lord Jesus is spiritual food and drink and received in faith. Our Savior of Sacrifice on the Cross that is Perfect and Complete. It is faith that saves, not rituals. 1 Corinthians 10:1-5 along with John 6 clearly means He is spiritual Rock that follows and fills His faithful with His Spirit to those that come to Father through His Son in the Spirit.❤
1 Corinthians 11:23 For I have received from the Lord what I have also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus, on the same night that he was handed over, took bread,
11:24 and giving thanks, he broke it, and said: “Take and eat. This is my body, which shall be given up for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
11:25 Similarly also, the cup, after he had eaten supper, saying: “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
11:26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord, until he returns.
11:27 And so, whoever eats this bread, or drinks from the cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be liable of the body and blood of the Lord.
11:28 But let a man examine himself, and, in this way, let him eat from that bread, and drink from that cup.
11:29 For whoever eats and drinks unworthily, eats and drinks a sentence against himself, not discerning it to be the body of the Lord.
John 6:51 I am the living bread, who descended from heaven.
6:52 If anyone eats from this bread, he shall live in eternity. And the bread that I will give is my FLESH for the life of the world.”
6:53 Therefore, the Jews debated among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
6:54 And so, Jesus said to them: “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU WILL HAVE NO LIFE IN YOU.
6:55 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
6:56 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
6:57 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.
6:58 Just as the living Father has sent me and I live because of the Father, so also whoever eats me, the same shall live because of me.
6:59 This is the bread that descends from heaven. It is not like the manna that your fathers ate, for they died. Whoever eats this bread shall live forever.”
Its not to be taken literally because the bible says the following in Hebrews, talking about Jesus being offered only once for sins, not many times over...9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. Hebrews 10:9-13
His sacrifice is once and for all but it is a living sacrifice. The unblemished lamb’s sacrifice is constantly being offered to the Father for the remission of sins and for the Father to hear our prayers. Every Mass on earth re-presents the same one sacrifice where heaven and earth meet and the new manna comes down from heaven and makes itself truly present in the forms of bread and wine.
How do i become a Catholic ? pleas help..
Go to your local parish, talk to the priest or parish office. ❤
Father… you were Lutheran?!!! AMDG!
Speaking on how the people's reverence mirros that of the priest, covid was a big eye opener. How many priests I watched ever so diligently apply hand sanitizer at various moments and remove and replace their masks all very intently, all while the Eucharist they would merely touch never minding the crumbs falling off their fingers, not taking water and washing their fingers back into the chalice after distributing communion ect. Made me start to wonder what they really revered.
Sincere question from a Protestant pastor here. I don't want to misrepresent what the Catholic Church believes, nor am I trying to refute this teaching, nor am I trying to undermine the faith of Catholics by asking this. With those disclaimers out of the way, here's my question. I assume that the wine doesn't taste like blood, nor does the host/bread taste like raw meat after it is consecrated. To overcome the early Docetist heresy (which claimed that God had not truly taken on flesh and blood in Jesus Christ, but only seemed to have done so) John wrote, “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life-” 1 John 1:1 In other words, John assumed the reliability of the human senses to discern what flesh and blood looks like and feels like. Since their human senses were trustworthy enough to arrive at the truth and since they had physically touched the body of incarnate Son of God and seen his blood shed on the cross, they could refute the Docetist denial of the incarnation. Yet, when it comes to the Eucharist, these same senses must be completely denied as faith alone must discern that, what tastes like bread and wine, is in reality the flesh and blood of the Lord Jesus. So are our senses sufficient to discern that the Son of God came in the flesh or not?
Jesus’ words are spirit because we cannot come to believe in Eucharist without the Father’s calling. It all starts with Faith - we have to take it on good faith that the Gospels are reliable sources. We also can come to believe on the good word of the early church Bishops like Irenaeus & Ignatius which fought against the Docetist and in their letters they defend the true presence of the Lord in the form of bread and wine. What our human to our human senses appears like simple bread and wine, to our body & souls, we assimilate the body, blood, soul and divinity of the new Passover lamb that must be consumed.
It’s a good and respectful question. Blessings.
@@bevious Thank you for your reply. Respectfully, your answer's emphasis on starting with faith and the spiritual nature of Jesus' words seemed more compatible with Calvin's understanding of the Lord's Supper than with what I understand of the Catholic Church's teaching on the mass. Calvin emphasised that the body of Christ, His true flesh and blood, is now seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven and will remain there until He returns on the last day for the final judgment. There Jesus, in that very same flesh and blood, intercedes for His people before His Father, presenting His wounds and completed work of atonement. Therefore Calvin taught that there was a true, spiritual and mystical connection between the bread and wine and His body and blood in heaven and that the full benefits of the Lord's Supper could only be apprehended by believers through faith. Simply put, Christ is spiritually within the bread and wine and since His divine Spirit is unconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly and inseparably united to His flesh and blood in Heaven, we truly feast on Christ and all He has done and is doing for us. With my limited understanding of the mass, Calvin's position seems more faithful to the Chalcedonian Creed than the Catholic Church's teaching on the mass. If Christ was physically present in the bread and wine as true flesh and true blood, wouldn't this entail confusion, changeability, divisibility and separation in His nature, contrary to the Chalcedonian Creed? After all, our senses would confuse the taste and sensation of bread and wine with what is actually flesh and blood. This would also mean that His physical flesh and blood would change in all its physical properties to take on the physical properties of bread and wine and His flesh and blood in heaven would be separated and divided from His flesh and blood in each individual mass across the world. Wouldn't this invalidate each of the four "without...s" of the Chalcedonian Creed? Knowing the Catholic Church's usual desire to think through its faith very carefully, I'll guess that there are good answers to these questions.
@weaponofchoice-tc7qs I appreciate the Orthodox position too and I'm glad you've found comfort and guidance from the Orthodox expression of our faith. I've little doubt that the 'real presence' of Christ in the Eucharist has been commonly believed in since the early church. From the point of view of piety and love for Jesus, I can also appreciate the comforting thought of Christ dwelling in the midst of His people here on earth - within the consecrated bread and wine. So, no, I'm not coming from the old Protestant "this is idolatry" point of view and I'm trying to be respectful. Nevertheless, my questions are sincere and they are not merely academic. They go to the very heart of our faith - Jesus took on our full human nature and therefore God has truly experienced our human limitations and sufferings for Himself. The Church as always affirmed this and summarised it in the all the early Ecumenical councils. So, my main problem with transubstantiation is, does Jesus have a body that can be physically transformed into things that don't look like, taste like or smell like and feels like ordinary human flesh and blood? Can His flesh and blood actually taste, smell and feel like bread and wine? If so, does Jesus really share a truly human nature like our own, if our own flesh and blood doesn't have this ability?
I have such an appreciation for the early church fathers and their heroic defence of the true humanity and true deity of Jesus, but I'm genuinely puzzled as to why this truth never seems to be applied to the Eucharist. And that's probably because I'm ignorant of the teachings of the church fathers on this issue. I'd like to think that they did address it. If so, I'm willing to be corrected and guided. Until then, I'll take comfort in the sacramental unity between the bread and wine and the truly human body and blood of Jesus seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven and which we can partake of in by faith through the bread and wine. For me, this sacramental union, achieved by the Spirit of Christ, makes His 'real presence' felt within the bread and wine.
"when it comes to the Eucharist, these same senses must be completely denied as faith alone must discern that, what tastes like bread and wine, is in reality the flesh and blood of the Lord Jesus. So are our senses sufficient to discern that the Son of God came in the flesh or not?"
You will see Christ did engage in some sort of "deception" of the senses. In the garden he "beheld" their eyes from recognizing Him (Luke 24:16) to think he was the gardener (another cryptic reference to Eden). Likewise, after the resurrection, another time he travelled with two disciples and prevented them from recognizing him until they celebrated the "breaking of bread" (eucharist) at which point they recognized Him (Luke 24:35).
In Exodus, Christ took form of a rock, though He was God, letting people believe it was rock. It is interesting, on this note, when prefacing his discussion on the eucharist in 1 Corinthians 10 and 11, he starts off by saying "the rock was Christ" referring to the moving rock in the desert.
With respect to the Docetists, I don't know exactly what they believe about Christ's body, other than it was phantasmic, did they believe it could be thought to be felt? I don't know. This area reminds me of people arguing angels had physical bodies, or if they just appeared to.
The early Church Fathers when discussing the Docetists found fault with them for rejecting the Eucharist as Christ:
"They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes"--St Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to Smyrnaeans,7,1(c.A.D. 110),in ANF,I:89
@@OrthodoxCatholic1 You referred to Luke 24:16, but suggested that Christ prevented the disciples from seeing Him. However, the construction is passive, meaning that the verse doesn't tell us who or what kept them from seeing. “But their eyes were restrained, so that they did not know Him.” (English Orthodox Bible.) “But their eyes were held, that they should not know him.” Luke 24:16 (Douay Rheims.) Given that the disciples were rebuked many times for their unbelief, wouldn't sin and unbelief be the thing that kept them from seeing the risen Lord Jesus for who He truly was?
Our Lord's miraculous healing of the blind points us towards our own personal need to be healed of our spiritual blindness. As God's image bearers, we all ought to see the Lord for who He is, yet sin and unbelief prevent us from doing so. Only Jesus can heal us from this and only Jesus can give us this spiritual insight. I would see this further illustrated by the reaction of the disciples to the resurrected Lord Jesus, who were unable to see Him as He is. In other words, the 'fault' lay with the disciples, and not with Jesus because he was 'deceiving their senses.' What troubles me about your suggestion that Christ engaged in some kind of 'deception' is, could we ever trust God if He engaged in deception?
I'm puzzled by your reference to the rock St. Paul talked about. What he said was, “and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.” 1 Corinthians 10:4 Clearly, this was not the physical presence of the body of Christ in that rock as you suggested, it was His spiritual presence. Besides, the physical rock Moses struck did not accompany then on their travels, but the spiritual rock and spiritual drink of Christ certainly did accompany them throughout their journeys in the wilderness. You rightly pointed out that this verse is in the broader context of the Lord's Supper. Wouldn't this suggest that the cup Jesus offers us at the table is the same spiritual drink? And if the Lord is truly spiritually present in the bread and wine, and if Chalcedon is correct, then that spiritual presence is is unconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly and inseparably united to His flesh and blood in Heaven. In other words, the earthly elements of consecrated bread and wine give us true access to feed upon the body and blood of Christ in heaven.
Something that makes me struggle with the Real Presence, even as a Catholic: Exactly what right does a priest have to decide that Christ either is or is not present in the Eucharist? If a piece of matzo is not Christ, and then after a priest's words, it suddenly is in fact Christ, what does that make the priest? Endowed with supernatural power? A human being that can literally invoke God, tell Him where to be? I have no problem believing in something metaphysical here on Earth, and I want to believe in the Real Presence, but once again, it is the human element that gives me pause. The Eucharist as a deeply sacred, reverent, yet symbolic gesture has always made more sense to me. We are "not worthy that He should enter under our roof..." none of us, that includes the priest. I'm actually asking, respectfully, so feel free to give me a lesson here.
You don't believe God can give power to man? And cannot instruct him to forgive sins?
Then you don't believe in God but a God you can relate to. In your image.
God chose the priest to work through. Please look up Eucharist miracles... Science is proving this is truly Jesus. AB blood type, horribly suffering, heart tissue.... Jesus is truly present.
Apologies for this long comment….. Jesus’ graphic imagery about eating His flesh and drinking His blood is indeed puzzling at first. Context will help us understand what He is saying. As we consider everything that Jesus said and did in John 6, the meaning of His words becomes clearer.
Earlier in the chapter, Jesus fed the 5,000 (John 6:1-13). The next day, the same multitudes continued to follow Him, seeking another meal. Jesus pointed out their short-sightedness: they were only seeking physical bread, but there was something more important: “Food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you” (verse 27). At this point, Jesus attempts to turn their perspective away from physical sustenance to their true need, which was spiritual.
This contrast between physical food and spiritual food sets the stage for Jesus’ statement that we must eat His flesh and drink His blood. Jesus explains that it is not physical bread that the world needs, but spiritual bread. Jesus three times identifies Himself as that spiritual bread (John 6:35, 48, 51). And twice He emphasizes faith (a spiritual action) as the key to salvation: “My Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life” (verse 40); and “Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life” (verse 47).
Jesus then compares and contrasts Himself to the manna that Israel had eaten in the time of Moses: “Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die” (John 6:49-50). Like manna, Jesus came down from heaven; and, like manna, Jesus gives life. Unlike manna, the life Jesus gives lasts for eternity (verse 58). In this way, Jesus is greater than Moses (see Hebrews 3:3).
Having established His metaphor (and the fact that He is speaking of faith in Him), Jesus presses the symbolism even further: “I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live forever; and this bread, which I will offer so the world may live, is my flesh. . . . I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you cannot have eternal life within you. But anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life. . . . My flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him. . . . Anyone who feeds on me will live because of me” (John 6:51-56, NLT).
When Jesus said we must “eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood” (John 6:53), He spoke, as He often did, in parabolic terms. We must receive Him by faith (John 1:12). “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled” (Matthew 5:6). We understand that we need physical food and drink; Jesus wants us to understand that we also need spiritual food and drink-and that is what His sacrifice provides.
It’s important to note that the Gospel of John is the only one that does not contains parables so his words about eating flesh and drinking blood are not parabolic but literal.
Hi. First the Gospel of John was written after the synoptic gospels. Some evidence for this is only the Gospel of John mentions Peter by name as cutting off the ear of the high priest’s servant. The speculation is that Peter was alive when the synoptics were written, and his name was left out to protect him. Another is that the synoptics leave out the account of Lazarus being raised from the dead. The speculation is that this was also to protect Lazarus. If John wrote his gospel after their deaths, then they no longer needed protection.
A second reason is John’s Gospel is about as long as what’s practical to write on a scroll, and he avoided repeating what was in the synoptics as if he expected his readers to already be familiar with them. When John did repeat accounts, he seemed to do so to include details left out of the synoptics. Note John 20:30-31 in ESV:” Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.” Also note John 21:25 in ESV, “Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.”
Thus, the best reason as to why John didn’t include any parables in his gospel is that John thought the parables in the synoptics sufficient and didn’t see the need to include any more. Thank you. @@bevious
I believe in the real presence, but isn't this a matter of FAITH? Belief in the real presence = miraculous. In churches, where there is no faith in real presence, eucharistic miracles are lacking while other miracles may occur. Also, isn't the word 'literal' wrong here? The meal offered isn't a hunk of flesh and actual blood, but is still to be understood that way in a another sense, the flesh of God isn't the same as our mortal flesh.
Let me declare one thing before I get into the contrary. I believe as a protestant that Protestantism is a derivative of the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church is a derivative of the first Hebrew church in Jerusalem. Anyone who denies that is absolutely and unequivocally wrong.
Now let’s get into the meat of the issue
Jesus uses parallelism in this discourse to equate believing with eating his flesh. Note the parallel between verse 40 and verse 54:
(Jn. 6:40) “For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”
(Jn. 6:54) “He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
According to this parallel, beholding and believing (v.40) are equated with eating and drinking Christ’s flesh (v.54). This is further paralleled by verse 35:
(Jn. 6:35) I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst.
(Jn. 6:54) “He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
To “hunger” and “thirst” and parallel to the one who “eats” and “drinks.” But note what Jesus says satisfies our hunger: “He who comes to Me… he who believes in Me.” Jesus isn’t speaking about his literal flesh and blood any more than he is speaking about literal bread (Jn. 6:35) or literal water (Jn. 4:10-14). Indeed, Jesus uses the term sarx for his “body,” rather than the common term sōma (which was the common term used in the Lord’s Supper). Indeed, the “term ‘flesh’ is never used in the NT to refer to the Lord’s Supper.”[4] Hence, this seems “to caution against a sacramental or eucharistic understand of these verses.”[5] This is why Augustine of Hippo wrote regarding this passage: “Believe, and you have eaten.”[6]
InFocus on Jesus Christ. Not bread and wine. Jesus said this is my body while He was standing there. It is a metaphor.
The Bible clearly states that’s not a metaphor. Especially how Jesus doubles down
@WeaponOfChoice I agree. The Protestants try to fit their ideology to the Bible, instead of use the Bible to form their ideology
@@SamScott99 Catholics are egotistical by forcing what they want to believe on the Bible. You're so concerned with the Eucharist being correct you don't even consider what Jesus could have actually meant.
The bible makes it very clear how we are saved.
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast
how is this an issue?
Nice video and a great message. However, your worship is lacking. I can't help but notice that you present a very reverent new order Mass--it is so reverent that it is reforming itself to the the actual Mass. This is the way it will always be. God, in the third Person inspired the so-called Mass of Gregory the Great--later called the Tridentine. The novus Mass will always tend to return to the Mass or it will continue to decompose into the protestant clown masses, the ape of the Mass, to which it so often becomes. Worship should always be the best we can offer.
You are missing the true spiritual meaning behind Jesus words if you think it was literal flesh and blood. His words are meaningful because they were a metaphor. You've basically just defended Catholic teachings but accomplished nothing!
You failed to see Jesus was literal
Ohhhhhh Norbertines, didn't event know you were to reform the clergy! How's that going for you all?
Sooner of what is said about Judas is inaccurate. Judas Iscariot began plotting to betray Jesus after the women poured perfume upon the Lords feet, it was not a result of the supper.
Judas Kissed Jesus to show the soldiers which one He was. Judas made the final decision to have Jesus arrested after as the priest said
@@SamScott99 Jesus indicated that he new Judas would betray him. He "forknew" it.
Matthew 20:25.
There was no escaping it.
@@jontoland3491 good point, but as we know Jesus does not force anything upon anyone. Jesus foresaw it because it was going to happen. Jesus did not tell him or make him do it. Judas still made the decision there and then
@WeaponOfChoice in Mathew.
@@SamScott99 from what I read and through the translations to English, Judas was "betraying" Jesus. It was not something that had occured at a singular moment but something that was going on for a longer period of time.
But that's my opinion on what I read, I understand if others might disagree.
6:05 sooooo condescending - (you don't do it my way so I am going to judge you without knowing you - I'm totally right and you are totally wrong - not very Christ like - Christ meets people where they are and lowers himself to lift others up). The whole video is like y'all are trying to prove it, prove it, prove it (not just state that facts and show you live it). Let's see it in your actions and then others will believe. "Preach the Gospel at all times and if necessary use words" St Francis
Well, i've read all this, but I don't come to your same conclusions
“Do this in remembrance of me”
what does the word remembrance mean? Dictionary: bring to mind
1 Corinthians 11:24
It also makes no sense that only a priest can serve the Eucharist. It would be everyone or no one. Just more of a fact of hierarchy of faith through the church and not through relationship.
the NT has different words for remembering, the one Jesus used is anamnesis which the LXX and NT use for a "memorial offering"
You have to ask, what is the "This" that Jesus is commanding them do in memory of Him. If I were to punch you in the arm, and follow up by saying "do this in remembrance of me", you would obviously conclude that I am to punch you in the arm, in remembrance of you. Remembrance doesn't change the act commanded.
@WeaponOfChoice please cite scripture when you’re referring to something. In your example about Paul, I’m assuming you’re referring to 1 Corinthians 10:16-21 (because when I google Paul and Eucharist all that comes up are catholic answers with this as their main point of justification).
With all scripture, let’s not be like Satan and take it out of context. Corinthians 10 is using Israel’s history as an example. Verse 3-4 “and they did eat the same spiritual meat: and did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of the spiritual rock that followed them and that rock was Christ.”
Now this is the interesting part (more interesting) verse 5 “but with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.”
The same people that ate and drank what was given to them by God (bread and water) were some of whom God was displeased with.
Is eating the bread and drinking the wine (Eucharist and blood of Christ) grant us part of Gods body? If we believe what Paul wrote, then no. As we saw, in Israel, the physical act of eating what God gives you does not grant you into his Body. “But with many of them God was not pleased”.
Verse 21 “Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devils. You cannot be partakers of the Lords table and of the table of devils.”. Do you only drink (physically) out of the cup of the Lord? Do you only eat the Eucharist? I assume not. If not then, then Paul is referring to a spiritual consumption, not a physical one.
@Jed Roueche If physically drinking wine and eating bread reminds you to consume Christ spiritually, then be my guest. The Catholic belief assumes that the physical act of doing this is in itself spiritual. I would say this is a flawed understanding and dangerous. To assume by eating something is going to make me become like Christ is borderline idolatrous. I have to consume Him spiritually. I.e be born again, be covered in His blood, and walk according to his Holy Spirit
In Jesus saying to "do this IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME," it does not mean one is to drink His blood; but to remember His atoning sacrifice which was done ONCE, and for all time. What He did mean is that what food is to nourish ones body; Christ Himself is for our soul. Drinking blood is a sin. Eating human flesh is a sin!!!! Please believe God. Another false teaching is what must I believe to be saved??? A false salvation message will only lead many souls astray and bring them to hellll. So, if you believe in traditions of mere men, you will be deceived!!! The salvation message given by God Himself is the only hope of salvation: Jesus is God, born miraculously of the virgin, born in human flesh. He lived the sinless life that no man ever could. He fulfilled many prophecies about Himself and did many miracles proving Himself to be God. For the love of His sinful creatures, He willingly died on the cross, taking upon Himself the sins of the world and the wrath of God that was poured out on Him for the complete payment of all your sins by His blood poured out for you. He was buried, and rose ALIVE FROM THE DEAD ON the 3rd day, just like He said He would. On the cross, Jesus said, "It is finished." He alone is the Savior of the world. Ephesian's 2:8,9, tells us truth: "For by GRACE you have been saved through FAITH, and that not of yourself it is THE GIFT OF GOD, NOT AS A RESULT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST..." SALVATION IS A FREE GIFT OF GOD. The Roman Catholic Church has added WORKS OF 7 SACRAMENTS YOU MUST PERFORM TO BE SAVED; MAKING THE SALVATION MESSAGE A FALSE ONE THAT CAN NEVER SAVE YOU!!!!!😮 Listen to Roman's 3,4: various verses: "...being justified FREELY by His GRACE through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, THROUGH FAITH, to demonstrate His righteousness...that He might be JUST and the JUSTIFIER of the one who has FAITH IN JESUS. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what Law? Of works? NO, but by the LAW OF FAITH...For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for RIGHTEOUSNESS. Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as GRACE but as debt. (as if God owes you salvation because you believed a lie that 7 sacraments must be added to the gospel!!!😮) But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for RIGHTEOUSNESS, just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes RIGHTEOUSNESS APART FROM WORKS."
Jesus Himself said to the Samaritan woman at the well that if she knew the GIFT OF GOD, and Who it was Who spoke with her, He would have GIVEN her LIVING WATER. (CHRIST HIMSELF!!) PLEASE REPENT OF THIS FALSE SALVATION MESSAGE, BELIEVE GOD, AND BE WILLING TO REPENT OF YOUR SINS. Pray DIRECTLY TO LORD JESUS TO FORGIVE YOU AND SAVE YOU TODAY. TRULY, CAROL, The old Baptist woman of God ❤ Then, after you are saved and born again, get water baptized and study the Holy Bible/66 Books only. Hope to see you in Heaven soon ❤ Good works are important to Christ. But they come after you are saved by grace through faith alone.
you must have faith in our Lord only. What is so difficult about this. If one knows our Lord. But has no idea what the Eucharist is where did those people go if they die? Do you see that what you were saying here is absolute teachings of men and not of Our Lord if one knows what the Eucharist is that was for the apostles in Jesus to show that our Lord was the ultimate sacrifice for sin and none other. Do you guys worship Mary or her name that makes her look more then our Lord does I've had people from your church come to my house and tell me that Not only was I to worship God but I was also to worship Mary so if you have any Idols or statues of her laying around then your in big trouble. And what you teach here is part of that big trouble. By our Lord Himself.czcams.com/video/WFckiEMBnD8/video.html
Your statement displays a misunderstanding of the Bible. Would you like to discuss?