Should Packers or Lions be NFC North favorite? | The Paul Farrington Show
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- Paul Farrington, Jack Weinberger, and Robert "Ziggy" Ziegler debate whether Jordan Love's Green Bay Packers or Jared Goff's Detroit Lions should be considered the favorite to win the NFC North for the 2024 NFL season. The guys throw the Vikings and Bears into the mix and share their full NFC North predictions and discuss what they are excited to see from the Black and Blue division next season.
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00:00 - NFC North rankings
05:36 - AFC West talk
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LOL "Our following is gonna be really pissed off by this"
Now that most of your following consists of Packers fans even as Vikings fans. How does that make you feel?
In all seriousness, I've really enjoyed following you guys and listening to your content. It's really entertaining and solid coverage of the NFC north that you don't find anywhere else. Keep it up.
I’m a firm believer that you need to take it, it’s never given so Detroit is the reigning champ and they should favored until Green Bay takes it from them.
I agree with the stance...but Love looks like the better QB. Most people will side with the Lions as #1 in their predictions for the same reason...but this isn't the Packers of old. The Packers have arguably the best QB in the division, a new/better DC (presumably), a new game-changing safety, a year under last year's rookie's belts, another year under the second-year player's belts, and tons of high-potential draft capital coming in. So it should spell more wins for them. But because they're still young, they may see around the same number of wins...but it wouldn't be shocking to see them take the division back next year. Fix the kicking problem and watch out.
@@The_Frying_Dragon I belief the Packer will take it but until they do Detroit should be favored. I’m 47 and a lifelong Packer fan and I believe in them 💯
Idk I feel like that’s bad logic. If you’re predicting who will be the best each upcoming season, you’re assuming things won’t flip.
@@sputnikalgrim Agreed. If I were to put money on it, I would go with the Packers. But as for the oddsmakers, Detroit should be first. The smart money would be on the Packers to win it, though.
So wild you guys are a lot of your viewers favorite place for Packer’s talk. Stay strong lol
Lions all day
Lions are gonna be solid but.....I give the edge to the packers simply by the last time they played. Since it was atleast towards the end of the yr. But....every yr is a new yr in the nfl so who knows.
History repeats itself
I don’t think you can put them above 3 as of now, but if Caleb walks into the NFL and is even close to stroud/Herbert as a rookie I think the Bears could be a dark horse to win the North. Best defense in the division by far and depending on how the draft plays out could have the best weapons in the division as well. I wouldn’t put any money on it, but it wouldn’t surprise me either.
Best weapons, my ass. You take Green Bay 5 recievers, especially if Watson stays healthy, the two TEs Kraft and Musgrave. Then the two big boys Jacobs and Dillon, OL needs depth but top that off with the divisions best QB. It's no contest
Green Bay also should’ve beat the 49ers in the playoffs. So the lions aren’t the only team that should’ve beat the 49ers
Don’t overlook the fact that the Lions have to play a first place schedule this year (bc they won the north) and the Packers dont.
Idk guys. I'm 35, my entire life the bears have been a bad football team. They've had high draft picks for a loooong time. When's the last time they drafted and developed a star? Well the bears where good for about a 3 year stretch there. The Vikings though have been mostly good in my life. For sure have had down and rebuilding years but I would trust the Vikings to rebuild at least a good competitive team than the bears.
The Packers are ascending at a very rapid pace. When you consider the incredible amount of talent the Packers have stacked up on offense... Man, the sky is the limit.
The defense is a complete unknown. There is potential to be pretty good on that side of the ball but we have been saying that for 3 years. If the offence can stack up points quickly, maybe the defense doesn't matter much.
If our defense is bad this year I’m going to cry
@@aqzxk4292can’t be worse than with Joe Barry
Dude we got Mckenzie 😂. We will 100% be better
@@packers12to80 McKinney I think is who you meant?
Given that the Packers basically threw away at least three games last year (Atlanta, New York and Las Vegas), I believe that the battle for the NFC North win will be very close.
Packers have a good half season and finish 9-8. This makes people think they are amazing. They beat the Lions with their secondary on IR and Jonah Jackson out, and suddenly they are a threat. Lions folded them like a lawn chair in Lambeau by two touchdowns the game before.
They were decent. Not crapping on them. The didn't really address their CB needs. This "Young team" strategy is not sustainable. You need veterans. That's why they are so inconsistent. The North is getting better while they stay the same. You're going to see them fall off maybe not this year but in the near future.
The Lions are better at most all position groups and the Lions have beaten the Packers four out of the last five games, I’m good going with the Lions and the better roster, and better under 25 players too!
As a packers fan I’d say it should be dead even odds. Both teams gave niners a run for their money.
Lions will still own the north. And win the Super Bowl this year
The difference with the lions is they have already gotten way better on defense threw fragency. And they haven't even reached the draft yet and thats were they live.
Lion's
😂 yall done bro, yall were built of momentum.
@@limone2464most of our core is 25 an below how are we done 😂
@@jaybrick8973 done when a team is based on a losing culture, has a barely average qb that is allergic to big games and built of momentum only.
Oh and i forgot, yall stuck with goff 😂
Funny how a losing team gets an average qb and they start paying him elite money.
@@limone2464 lol going to come back to this we love proving ppl wrong
@@jaybrick8973 he will, people really think he isn’t getting a ring.
He will get a ring and…. Will have more SB appearances than your entire franchise 😂
We don't know if the bears will have a better QB. Most college QBs are trash when they come in and even if they are good, you still have to see if they are a fluke or not. So it isn't automatic for the vikings to have the worst QB. And I say that as a packer fan
Vikings
As much as I love GB, the team hasn't been balanced in years. All those division and nfc championship losses hurt. Too many years with either/both crappy defenses and special teams. Unless the new defensive coordinator is a massive improvement, its probably the lions in 1st for another year
Kinda hard to predict anything until after the draft happens.
Got me. I seen this one yesterday
I'm not reading comments, i'm NOT watching this video, THE TITLE says enough.. CLICK BAIT! The whole WORLD knows, the LIONS are the FAVORITE, whether or not they win it is still up in the AIR! goodbye
I'm going to say Packers for no particular reason or bias
i promise
#1 Packers #2 Lions #3 Bears Vikings
Injuries will factor significantly. Unfortunately. Coin-flip.
It's a toss up between the Packers and Lions (coming from a Packers fan). Lions are probably favored, but it could easily go either way.
Detroit will be good. Packers start rough and take over by end of season. Vikings 3rd because you have a good coach. Bears will draft stupid or it just won't matter...
Go Pack Go
I know I am a fan, but the Packers have a big edge in the division because you can pencil in two wins over the Lions and that will give them the tie-breaker. The Pack will be 5-1 or 6-0 in the division and the Lions will be 4-2.
Bhahahaha smoke some more cheese bro.
@@beaujensen4245 Gouda is really good smoked. You should try it sometime. Also, check the Packer's divisional record. Since 2002, the Packers are 23-15-2 vs. the Vikings, 29-11 vs. the Bears, and 29-11 vs. the Lions, and it hasn't really been that close.
@@beaujensen4245 smoke some more gazelle in africa lil kiddo jared goff chokes when its needed
@@beaujensen4245looks like you the one smoking delusional if you think yo lions doin something😂
@@beaujensen4245Sure bozo🤡
Packers would have walked to the superbowl if the beat san fran. They embarrassed Detroit the last time they played.
Dude it was the Thanksgiving day game we lose it every year regardless of who we play 😂 I wouldn’t get too cocky.
vikings division champs at 11 - 6, maybe second place, darnold makes playoffs
first
Packers are winning the division.
Packers 15-2 record next year
Losing to the Vikings twice?
1 Green Bay ,2 Lions, 3 Vikings, 4 the Bears who are we thought they were that’s it !!!🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
Coaching decisions is going to hurt Detroit again
The coaching decisions helped Detroit enormously last season!
Packs got the division but I think the vikings HC is way better then the bears. Bears are loaded but I don't trust their coach so they last to me
We beat detroit in detroit when it mattered..
LIke in 2022 when Aaron Rodgers couldn't win the last game of his career in Green Bay, because he was manhandled by the Lions? Okay, Chachi.
@@Morthoron1 No, like on Thanksgiving Day, Nov. 23rd, 2023, in front of the entire nation, when we needed to win to stay in the race for the playoffs, and Detroit failed to take out their main divisional rival.
@@istantinoplebullconsta642 Nope, I think eliminating Green Bay from the playoffs while simultaneously ending Aaron Rodgers' career with the Packers was far more satisying for the Lions. I'll always fondly remember tearful Erin sulking away from the field after we swept them for the year.
And it seems you forgot in 2023, the Lions beat the Pack again in Green Bay, and won the division with a 12-5 record. The Pack finished 2nd, which is what will happen in 2024 as well.
And they beat you in Green Bay, you guys split…
Keep sleeping... Skol!
Facts
Neither GB or Detroit r winning this division
😂
The Packers success is making the assumption that Love will be the same QB he was the last 8 games of the regular season. While Love was great, we only have those 8 games to go off. The 7 game stretch before that, he played so bad that people thought he would lose his job before the season ended.
He played bad due to the younger guys not being on one accord . Throughout the season , u had guys running the wrong routes , center not knowing the snap count , plenty of things go into the packers not playing great . But they got it together faster than any team I ever seen . Year 2 leaps are about to be crazy with this packers team guaranteed
@@JonathanAnderson-yf1kf I agree that a younger team is going to come with some problems. But blaming a 7 game stretch on that doesn't seem reasonable. There is no history to look at to see if that 7 game stretch was out of the ordinary. As much as you believe its a guarantee, its really an unknown. Do you really think he's going to continue a 16-1 TD to INT ratio for an entire season? That's better than elite Aaron Rodgers at the peak of his career. That's a tall order to fill. Is he going to be the QB that had a 9-10 TD to INT ratio in that 7 game stretch? I don't think so. I think he's going to be somewhere in the middle of that and what does that look like on the Packers? Love was incredible towards the end of the season but to expect that for an entire year, is really unfair to him. He's been in the league for a few years but last year was like his rookie year. Teams will adjust to his game and it will not get easier. Look at Lawrence in Jacksonville. Teams adjusted and he struggle a lot more after that. I don't think he's a bad player but its far from guaranteed that he will have the same success he had at the end of last season.
He had 5 bad games where do people keep getting 7 from
@@dez1446 Week 3 to Week 9. He played well in week 8 vs the Rams but followed that up with a bad game vs Pit in week 9. Week 10 to the end of the season, he played well. He had one bad game in the last 8 games but that was the outlier of the bunch. Just like the 1 good game in that 7 game stretch was the outlier. 1 good or bad game doesn't change how you played for a long stretch of games.
@@mikeanderson3735 he played fine in week 3 and led a comeback and played good in week 9 the ints are misleading
Detroit is gonna regress this season and probably go 7-10
Detroit already have a better roster than they had last year and it's not even the draft yet
@@frankbj1152team built of momentum. Thats it. Same old
Lions.
@@frankbj1152 The problem is people are sleeping on Jared Goff's true form in that he is a bust. Good to run a system but not a quarterback you win because of. He's benefitted from elite OL play and elite playcalling for two teams now and each time he's come up short on loaded rosters. As soon as Goff has to deal with one or two injuries on offense, he folds badly. You can win with Goff but EVERYTHING has to go right and it can't be a shootout. Everyone wants to ignore those last two seasons in LA for some reason, and his first season in detroit when Ben Johnson wasn't the OC when he was straight up terrible.
All you have to do is look at the Stafford/Goff trade to see who Goff and the Lions are: The Lions couldn't win anything with Stafford and the Rams couldn't win anything with Goff. The two teams trade and one immediately wins a super bowl and the other is still trying to find their first championship in the super bowl era. If that doesn't tell you how bad Goff is, I don't know what will. When the Lions inevitably give him a massive extension which will hamstring their whole future, they will go back to being the free win on the division's schedule they always have been.
When you compound the Goff situation with everyone ignoring the Ben Johnson situation, it's a train wreck waiting to happen that everyone is choosing to ignore. The Lions also decided to use two top 20 picks on a runningback and linebacker, two of the least important positions in football. Yes, I get it, they could turn out to be good players, but those are replaceable positions. Prospects like Jack Campbell and Gibbs fall to the 29th pick all the time, prospects like Jalen Carter do not. It's SIGNIFICANTLY harder to hit on picks when you're a competitive team and you have to pick in the back half of the 1st round as opposed to 11th overall and you have your choice of player.
When Ben Johnson leaves, when the Lions can't pay to keep their elite OLine around cause they chose to pay Goff massive money instead, and they couldn't replace their talent because they wasted it on a runningback and linebacker and have no pass rush or pass protection, the Lions will go back to being bottom feeders in the division.
Mark my words: The Lions will be back to square one in 3 years.
Yeaaaaaa okay 🤡
Detroit has to play a first seed schedule for the first time in a very long time wins will be harder to come by
4 Vikings
3 Bears
2 Lions
1 by a tie breaker PACKERS
The lions are the first place schedule for their opponents. They fear nobody on the schedule.
@@docholiday9175 Well if they fear nobody, then the Packers will have to put the fear in them, and put them in their place (2nd place, that is). Seriously though, I really look forward to our meetings with Detroit this year. I'm glad they're legit contenders and are head and shoulders above the other two.
@@istantinoplebullconsta642 exactly, it’s a rivalry again.