Stan Kenton - MacArthur Park (4)
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- Stan Kenton and his Orchestra recorded in London 6 February 1972.
Stan Kenton, Mike Vax, Dennis Noday, Jay Saunders, Ray Brown, Joe Marcinkiewicz, Dick Shearer, Mike Jamieson, Fred Carter, Mike Wallace, Phil Herring, Quin Davis, Richard Torres, Kim Frizell, Willie Maiden, Chuck Carter, Ramon Lopez, John Worster, John Von Ohlen.
Many of Stans band members played at the Lighthouse in Hermosa Beach circa. 1956 I was lucky enough to be there...We all miss Stan and his orchestra.
Fabulous amazing composition not comparable.
Genius......Stan Kenton 's work will always be fresh and modern....a master!
Listen for the trademark Kenton "Wall of Sound!" It's like taking a bath in an ocean of J A Z Z ! Breathtaking music that can purify your musical soul. Thanks for sharing this with us. Gratefully, Dr. Mel Preisz, a music fan.
John Von Ohlen killin it on the drums!
a classic in any sense of the word. American big band jazz is up there with the very best music ever.
Thank you for the upload. Stan Kenton brings back very happy memories of my stepfather. He used to play trumpet in a large band in New Orleand for the police aux. for the New Orleans Police Aux. and he loved listening to Stan Kenton and got me hooked.The band he played in souned so much like Stan Kenton. Thanks for the memories whoever uploaded the music and thank you CZcams for being there.
What a wonderful arrangement................
Great arrangement of a Jimmy Webb classic. It runs chills up my back.
I had the honor to attend one of his study groups. I played Bass, and we did this song for our Jazz Touring Band in High School! An awesome time. I became a Jazz/Rock bassist.
Stan Kenton band was and will always be the best big band I ever heard. The guys that played in Stan's band were the best. The sound of the band moves you thought different moods (Happy, Sad, ETC...). Stan Kenton to me will always me known as a musical genius. His version of "Hey Jude" to me was my first time I heard of Stan Kenton and the song blew me away. It was the live version.
always and still stan had a nice modern sound. luv it!!!
This band is one of my dad's favorites!
the wall of sound of this band was amazing. it inspired me to pick up the trombone in my teens. if only i had ramon lopez, von ohlen on percussion, dickus on the bone, and stan leading us....
A brilliant version of MacArthur park what great Bands Stan Kenton lead
I saw the band at the Jazz Clinic at Sacramento State in the summer of 1977. John Worster (bass) was with the band again and it was his last performance with the band. Kenton wasn't there due to health problems. After the band played MacArthur Park, John ceremoniously held up his part, ripped it in half, and tossed it on the floor. (One of the reasons he didn't like playing it was that he had to make a fast change from acoustic to electric bass in the middle of the arrangement. When I saw him play the arrangement that summer and the summer before, he wore the electric bass on his right shoulder while he played the acoustic bass, so that the bass was on his back with the headstock down, so that he could make the change fast enough.)
Wonderful,mr. Kenton...as always.
What a shame that the recording isn't all that great. Kenton's band at this time was absolutely awesome. I heard them in person several times at this exact era and was always blown away. He had some of the best musicians around that were playing with him.
I saw Stan live at fairfield halls Croydon twice. first was recorded by Decca and released as an album. I lost my copy sometime during the last 40 years. second time I sat front row centre, and heard this. WOW!!! Sadly Stan returned to the US and very soon after suffered a stroke which hastened his sad demise.
Mind blowing!!!!🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠⭐️
Holy cannoli! Those trumpet players must have had iron lips to be able to do a Kenton gig. Most of the charts are relentlessly played in the stratospheric register.
Ca c'est di ''Brass dans l'park'' WOW tks
let's eat the cake in the sunshine say the horns... Beautifully colorful in the park this am. tks... Last week I was in nyc washington pk ...tuned in to New Orleans Musicians ..same Spring fever! Bravo tks for my nice b'thday present...MacArthur Park my 60's favorite.
@4:50, it haunted me for years why Stan just stood there when the Band was cooking. (the most intense work I've seen musically for a group) One day it hit me hard. What can he do? They are doing it for him. God, I laughed. Myself, a jazz pianist, took 45 years to figure that out. I got a lot to learn!
I had a Jazz Director in College that stated a song by putting his hand down and saying "one". The work, to him, was over. I agree completely with your comment. Thank you.
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Thank you.
In my high school jazz band, when we played this, our director would take out a used stogie, put it in his mouth for 5 seconds. When he dropped it to the ground, that was our down beat.
They were so good at that point in their training that they actually didn't require leadership, it was pure instinct. That was a once in human existence moment, no band will ever be that good.
Grande orchestra con anche eccezionali solisti solo strumenti a
fiato... È di Stan Kenton... Questo è
Il vero JAZZ (TRESTE/ITALY).
me too in 1973 - got 2nd tenor playing MacArthur Park solo - high school highlight for sure
If there is a perfect song, this was it.
WOW WOW WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From a mad keen 73yo Aussie fan.
Ramon Lopez added so much to this Band and he gets very little credit. I really enjoyed listening and watching him play.He was in Tampa later on.
Wow!👏
The contrasts in this number are so big. Its for reason like this that Kenton was such a musical genius.
Seen Vax's band perform this chart live with many of the performers here in his own band, this arrangement is a real treat and experience live or here on this video. Many thanks for sharing!
Every time I hear this Magic sound I get goose bumps
THANK YOU, STAN!
Played this arrangement in HS...Nice to see this here!
Wonderful!!!
Fantastic listening
Baron John Von Ohlen kicks ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with so many great comments above, only taking time to especially agree on John Von Ohlen. He was such a monster, a beast, awesome. Just as you so eloquently stated, he (always) kicks ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love his playing! Only got to see him twice live - once with Stan Kenton and once as featured artist with a college band. Great drummer!!
Kenton used mellophoniums, rich deep brasses,etc. to great effect. Fantastic !!
he has the best band in the land
Best bones in the business!!💥
I don't think there will ever be a song played this well live. I've heard songs that were almost as good as their recorded versions, I've heard songs that were as good as their recorded versions, but I've never heard a song that was actually better than any recorded version that was released at that time. No song is ever better than the studio recorded version. Yet, this video exists...
Mr. Von Ohlen died just about a week ago. A great drummer.
That is sad. I and brother in law used to see him play with his band at The Garage in Indy...Kenton and his band showed up one evening in the late 70's. We would talk with John who went to Indy Broad Ripple HS. A really nice guy!!
Greatest band ever
Happy 99th Birthday, Stan!!
Awesome!!
Watch the drummer just go about his business in the fast part like it's nothing at all! That's talent!
YES, FOR EVER THE GREATEST !!!
It's all about the Tuba baby!!!
I'm not sure whether "killin it" is like "bad" when it's actually it's good, if you see what I mean, and I'm by no means an afficianado of big bands but Kenton was one of my Dad's favourites and even while I was getting into Deep Purple, Alice Cooper etc this kind of big brassy flamboyant sound still rings my bell now. As for the drummer, music is about evolution and if it wasn't for the likes of him and Buddy Richm we'd have never had Carl Palmer, Keith Moon and the like
Did anybody else come close to Kenton as a brass arranger?
SOmewhere in there is a cousin of mine. lol. So my grandfather says. Trombone I think.
Just read all the comments below. Quite a community of appreciators! Lemme join them: I'm in my 85th yr. and remember back to the '40's and '50's when Stan Kenton & Woody Herman divided the big band jazz world between themselves along with The Duke and The Count (Ellington & Basie). My favorite of all of 'em was the 1st and 2nd Herman Herds. I'd champion Woody to my Kenton friends. But Kenton eventually caught up for me and now is a full equal. But those 2 bands were (and still are to me) the Hemingway and Faulkner of big band jazz. Woody's was the sparser but more penetrating Swing bunch (Hem.) and Kenton's were the more "baroque" & "oceanic" Faulknerians. Now I love all 4 --Woody, Count, Stan and Duke-- with equal relish. But Kenton had the longest distance to cover for me back then. Ain't growin' up grand!
+Don Skoller Hey: in my 76th and spent weeks in my high school summers at the end of Steel Pier in Atlantic City in "The Marine Ballroom" when Stand and the band played 2 pieces for dancing and 3 other hours of gthe most magnificent big band jazz I every heard before or since!!!
+Irwin Kornblau I'm a youngster; only 71, but I can remember seeing Buddy Morrow's orchestra and the Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey combined orchestras in the Marine Ballroom. I think I might still have the photos taken with my box Brownie if I search through the basement long enough. What a great place to hear music. This version of MacArthur Park is at least an 8 but I still give Maynard Ferguson's version the 10.
Yup, Maynard's hasn't been outdone.
""baroque" & "oceanic" Faulknerians"?!?!...Love that kind of talk.
are you still alive ?
Too short! Great great great...
Agreed!!
EPIC
John had & has just a wonderful & unique style - seeing him live is magic! check out IT'S GOTTA SWING The JVO Story (book)
I think I have this concert on an old tape I bought about 10 years ago. I seem to remember a rendition of MacArthur Park with the instrumentalists singing the middle verses. If it's not this concert, it's one from the same era (early 70's).
Fred Carter (my Buddy) is next to the tuba.
Harmon mutes should be outlawed.
Darn that percussion player during mcarthur park reminded me of buddy's rich playing.
Who's the drummer? If you answer, thanks.
@HorsePussy Yes! As I wrote elsewhere, I went the Kenton Band Clinic just a couple of months after this video was made. Dick Shearer was lead.
@ghogrebe ....check out Stan Kenton's Live at Redlands Univ...Hey Jude is on that Live album...tears the house down..make sure you listen to the whole song!
not in the same room as jazz, but there is a terrific British Brass Band version of this by Grimethorpe Colliery Band. Well worth a listen for those who think we only play marches and lollipops! ;)
I did..............Thanks to you and to CZcams for the joy.
I am a big Stan Kenton fan, but this video is caught in a 60s time warp. I like his original stuff better.
Do you consider mahler's ressurection symphony, canon in D, fire of eternal glory, william tell overture, candide, nessun dorma, phantom of the opera, dave brubeck music, spartacus, fire bird suite, and the list continues "football" music? Im pretty sure those are clasical piece played by varying DCI Corps
who is the lead bone?
The unmistakable Dick Shearer.
SOME ONE SHOULD TKAE THE TIME TO RESTORE THESE CLASSICS ONTO BLU RAY AND 7.1
Well, someone needs to tell that to a heckofalot of marching band directors, then. And drum corps show designers. I've seen a lot of "hail judge" salutes at field contests from trumpet sections (and most of the rest of the band) with a very *serious* look. In many cases it earned the respect of the crowd in the bleachers.
As for not letting the section sing, there's a lot of BD's guilty of that. Not that it's a biggie either. Many Univ. bands are 1/2 full of college choristers....
And that's in reply to the Harmon comment.
Anyone care to speculate on the width of Shearer's slide vibrato? Inches or cents, either, lol.
Very immature comment, probably doesn't understand what bands like Kenton/Rich/Herman etc..mean to jazz. I mean look at that trumpet line up, thats world class as I'm sure all the players are.
Dregs? Never heard a midwestern bar "cover" band, a garage band from a smalltown or a ton of church organists, I take it? :-D
@10footman i know ray brown as a extraordinary BASSIST
Bill Russo is missed !
I thought there was no sound in flutes...
...I heard that to play trumpet in the Kenton band you had to be able to guarantee an F above high C!!
Tim Webb ?
Jim Webb
Musical tastes are just that. Taste. I can listen to Dixieland, but the majority of jazz is beyond me. Maybe that's the point, too many jazz players and their fans seem to think that if you have to ask then you wouldn't understand and adopt a position of superiority. Perhaps real jazz fans have forgotten that in the 1st half of the 20th Century many of the best jazz players died young from drugs, alcohol, STDs or by jealous husbands. Or is that the point? You can't be a great unless you're dead
Love the playing, but kinda wondering, are there no players Stan's age....I'm 55, still have no trouble hittin' the high notes...guess when you're gorging on high notes, 20 year olds look better when the eyes are popping!
At eny moment, the ages of the players in the band were in their 20's or early 30's.
Great Band, I loved playing in it. I have NEVER played anything as difficult as the arrangements of STAN.
Bravo trumpets. Very cool, John. I think its fair to say, you guys make it LOOK/sound easy. Must've been a total trip playing in that band!
John Harner What a wonderful experience for you, John. My mom and my uncles lived for Stan Kenton music (MacArthur Park was a favorite of my mom), and I was fortunate to learn from them but just missed the opportunity to hear him live. As a movie music fan, I'm learning of his influence on other composers such as Barry Gray. We did attend a Hank Levy tribute when he was teaching at Towson in Maryland and I heard Maynard Ferguson live in those days. He too nurtured and showcased young talent. lucky you!
According to Charlie Barnet in 'Thoes swinging years' the reason why the players in the later bands were so young was to keep cost down. Many of these players accepted low wages just to play in a band like this. The more experienced older players would have demanded higher wages for their services.
Also, the younger guys were willing to travel by bus and deal with low budget accomodations. The older guys, with families, tend to tire of that lifestyle.
Probably a Miraphone
Niet te evenaren
Geweldig arrangement.Alleen Stan kan dat.Uitzonderlijk.
"Stan Kenton band was and will always be the best big band I ever heard"
How can you attest to whether or not it is the best big band he has ever heard? I challenge you to argue why someone's aesthetic preference are or are not 'correct'. Kenton is very different from Gordon Goodwin.
someone definitely left the cake out in the rain... way to ruin the party...
the baritone sax player looks like pepper adams but that cant be.
Nah, only if they have the stem left in :-P
The Band is wonderful, but I think the vocals are ill-advised.
Now, now now. We both apparently don't have enough work to do to keep this argument from growing to epic porportions. But, it's not quittin' time yet.
Yes, a professional group of jazz players like Kenton's, Maynard's, and most of the like could run circles around a marching band, a drum corps, or most any college ensemble with the possible exception of the top lab bands at NT State or Berkeley, etc.
But you need to realize ... there's a lot of people who think they can "play" ...
woah now...while I agree that Marching Band and Drum Corps are not on any kind of artistic musical level, it's ignorant to say that it's not entertaining.... stop being a purist and learn to enjoy all forms of entertainment. And maybe you didn't know this, but Kenton thought for a time of getting rid of the saxophone section in his band. Would you still consider him an artist? Or would it be too close to D&B corps for you??
... that couldn't even make muster for the Garfield Cadets or the University of Ohio's "TBDBITL". There are some "ensembles" that inhale so swiftly Hurricane Ike couldn't fill 'em. And they are *not* every marching band, drum corp, etc., in the land.
Local musical theatre? Community Bands? SPEBQSA? Youth Orchestras? *Absolutely*, you're right: not in the same league. But there is *always* something worse than the currently evaluated group.
Bleh. End of debate.
Sorry, I like Maynard's version better....
Anything touched by a drum and bugle corp is butchered, ceases to be 'classic', and becomes football music.
Not as good as Maynard's version, but not bad.
drum corps is better 100%
a classic in any sense of the word. American big band jazz is up there with the very best music ever.