Stop Hunting in Trading Exists! But it is Just Not What You Expect it to Be

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    Stop Hunting in Trading Exists! But it is Just Not What You Expect it to Be. David Paul, Financial Trader comments. If you found value in watching this video, PLEASE LIKE AND SHARE so we can do more! Do you think there is something like ‘stop hunting’ where market makers or brokers trigger stop levels where most traders have setup their stops? Institutional trades are taught either to buy at 'good levels' or not to buy at all. Most institutions will put their orders at very good levels... However, it is very much simpler to execute at retail level than for institutions that need a lot of liquidity. The next time you are about to trade on, pick something heavy and hit your head. Then you write down where you are going to buy and where you are going to put your stop loss.
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Komentáře • 169

  • @ukspreadbetting
    @ukspreadbetting  Před 4 lety +19

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  • @raymondphilip6232
    @raymondphilip6232 Před 4 lety +167

    "put ur entry at the stop loss level"

  • @sampsonerasmus5219
    @sampsonerasmus5219 Před 4 lety +153

    The way he speaks makes you eager to know the next piece of wisdom he'll utter.

  • @sousams3797
    @sousams3797 Před 2 lety +33

    This video entirely changed my trading strategy and my win ratio has increased significantly

  • @bluelinealert6979
    @bluelinealert6979 Před 6 lety +348

    Here is an exercise.
    The next time you are gonna put a trade on, you pick up something heavy and you just HIT IT IN YOUR HEAD.
    And then you write down in a piece of paper where you gonna buy and where you gonna put your stoploss.
    Don't buy it, but put an order in to buy it where you would put your stoploss, and then watch how many times the market goes to your order.
    MARKETS WILL GO TO THE OBVIOUS STOPS MOST OF THE TIME.
    One of my rules is I want to put my entries where the masses put their stops.

  • @Tao818
    @Tao818 Před rokem +7

    I never use Stop Losses. Just sit and observe the price movement. Best way to beat the stop loss algorithms.

  • @SeanTheDon17
    @SeanTheDon17 Před 6 lety +137

    3:30 "The Stop Needs To Be Where The Stop Needs To Be" this line sealed my Respect for the Master David Paul

  • @arieloxford6790
    @arieloxford6790 Před 5 lety +76

    There's more information in what that gentleman said than in 99% of everything else you'll ever hear on the subject.

  • @SkynetTeamDREADWING
    @SkynetTeamDREADWING Před 6 lety +29

    "put an order in TO buy it where you wanna put your stop loss" hahaha I love that

  • @Energyaddict294
    @Energyaddict294 Před 4 lety +29

    Sorry to pour out my rants but, another situation is that. Every time I had placed an order, and it went in opposite direction. Price would eventually go into profits within hours or several days. For someone with small account, I’d highly recommend to cut losses quickly, if you have a big account then most likely you already know this secret I’m going to give out, but PRICE ALMOST ALWAYS corrects its self. It just takes patience and some time

  • @baoutch
    @baoutch Před 3 měsíci +3

    THE STOP NEEDS TO BE WHERE THE STOP NEEDS TO BE
    Every time i setup a trade I hear this voice. Precious video.

  • @jimle8444
    @jimle8444 Před 3 lety +26

    I tend to leave my stops at 1 ATR below the previous low. It ensures that if my stop is attempted to be hunted, the sell off is guaranteed.

  • @IsaacOnyait
    @IsaacOnyait Před rokem +5

    This lady has learnt quite a lot from this people. I like how she never interrupts them

  • @AlexM3478
    @AlexM3478 Před 2 lety +8

    Virtual stops is the key. I don't want brokers to see my stops

  • @Hashimismael
    @Hashimismael Před 3 lety +25

    Thank you for this billion dollar advice. You won't hear this anywhere else. Many "coaches" keep shoving the usual trading formulas that will never have an edge in the long run.

  • @roycesjourney37
    @roycesjourney37 Před 9 měsíci +4

    So after years of starting and stopping and giving up I just started realizing this. In fact put your entries a few ticks/pips past where your stops would be. Literally an immediate change in my trading.

  • @timmy54live
    @timmy54live Před 3 lety +16

    One of the best videos I have watched so far. Usually good entries are the once you feel uncomfortable taking yet MR. FEAR would whisper "sir wait for confirmation" and that's when you are left with a wide ass SL that's perfectly in the hunting zone.

  • @italianmiltyfriedman6264
    @italianmiltyfriedman6264 Před 2 lety +6

    3:40 if your entry is sloppy, then your stop needs to be a red bus away" 💀😂 this guy is a treasure

  • @onee
    @onee Před 4 lety +14

    Don't forget algorithms who're trying to trigger stop losses.

  • @eddyvideostar
    @eddyvideostar Před 7 lety +24

    He is very philosophical. I believe one must give the trade an opportunity to work with an initially generous stop loss, then adjust this accordingly as the stock price lifts or levitates.

  • @marcduchamp5512
    @marcduchamp5512 Před 6 lety +29

    This is the best advice I have ever get

  • @haroldbauer8724
    @haroldbauer8724 Před 5 lety +6

    1:35 "I don't think that anybody looks at where the stops are" then directly says after that "We know the stops will be crowded at this obvious level"

  • @thedude5702
    @thedude5702 Před 3 lety +16

    This is actually the most valuable piece of wisdom on trading I have ever heard on trading

  • @andrewsampton
    @andrewsampton Před 4 lety +6

    I am my stop loss. I know when a trade has failed.

  • @p.thriver5410
    @p.thriver5410 Před 5 lety +4

    I love this guy. So full of real knowledge and entertaining @ the same time

  • @estebanwilson
    @estebanwilson Před 4 lety +14

    I just love this man he is a genius that knows how to explain everything so simple and logical

  • @jerrynix5206
    @jerrynix5206 Před 4 lety +3

    Some of the best advice I've heard so far!

  • @venkatarv
    @venkatarv Před 2 lety +1

    Single most important lesson i have learnt watching... simple , straight....pure wisdom...not exaggerating ...figure out yourself...

  • @hikmathaider7984
    @hikmathaider7984 Před 3 lety +5

    Great words of wisdom from a good heart wise man.

  • @SGTGUILD
    @SGTGUILD Před 11 měsíci +3

    Rest in peace Daivd!

  • @bbobby2792
    @bbobby2792 Před 5 lety +6

    What you should do as part of your essential tool kit is, is to use an EA that manages your draw down to manageable levels. Its the draw down followed by margin calls that wipe out your account.

  • @acen2178
    @acen2178 Před 7 lety +6

    Great video and advise

  • @sixmagpies
    @sixmagpies Před 6 lety +3

    Direct speak from Northern Ireland.

  • @mutsawashemazvimavi637
    @mutsawashemazvimavi637 Před 2 lety +2

    This man is a living genius

  • @JamesWilliams-qn5cq
    @JamesWilliams-qn5cq Před rokem

    Soooo Outstanding !!!
    Thx a Ton for the Post

  • @mariolopez6068
    @mariolopez6068 Před rokem +2

    I been day trading for 4 months and it is very obvious that the systems recognizes everything you do. So is better to have discipline and be unpredictable

  • @philliprobert2224
    @philliprobert2224 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing!!! Telling me just what I need to hear. Got stopped out of a HUGE USDCAD opportunity last night by 18 ticks……… thank you sir.

  • @aishayosef160
    @aishayosef160 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you👌👏👏👍

  • @foodstunts
    @foodstunts Před 5 lety

    Very helpful Thank you good advice. Insightful

  • @adenugaoluwasanmi5288
    @adenugaoluwasanmi5288 Před 2 lety

    This is very revealing.
    Thanks Mr David Paul.

  • @GM_Dianx
    @GM_Dianx Před rokem

    Simple, but very useful. thanks

  • @PedroNas95
    @PedroNas95 Před 10 měsíci +1

    AWESOME INFO, THANKS CRACKS!!

  • @davidweru3134
    @davidweru3134 Před 6 lety +29

    '08 Weezy bars coming out of this man's mouth.

  • @EroditeNdiIchieTraders51423

    Ancient & Modern - The Master has spoken!

  • @wanashthegash
    @wanashthegash Před 3 lety

    TRUTH! Sloppy entries makes for sloppy trades, your worst trades are probably the ones that have sloppy entries, which makes them impossible to manage risk properly on.
    Another good thing is to actually use several levels for your stop, the probable chance of price running thru all of them is then slim, but not impossible of course, but that also needs to be accompanied by a good entry.

  • @edsbloggingcom
    @edsbloggingcom Před rokem

    Great explanation! And totally agree

  • @srirachaonpho3633
    @srirachaonpho3633 Před 7 lety +2

    very true, the initial stop loss should not be too tight. you might need to decrease your position size or trade cheaper stocks.

  • @ernstvolf8537
    @ernstvolf8537 Před 7 lety

    Thank you.

  • @ShelleyM007
    @ShelleyM007 Před 5 lety +1

    ...."you pick up something heavy and you just go BOOF"...Truly a laugh out loud moment!
    Seen other vlogs with Dr David Paul, and enjoyed listening to him talk: he comes across as confidently knowledgeable, without being egotistical, and who doesn't love his Irish accent, but after that hilarious comment I had to google him, only to find he has ties to my native country!

  • @gopal1035
    @gopal1035 Před 5 lety

    Thank you sir.

  • @andvasc
    @andvasc Před 6 lety +1

    Very important information.

  • @zanehunt2180
    @zanehunt2180 Před rokem

    Cool, thank you.

  • @velituncercolak7041
    @velituncercolak7041 Před 3 lety

    Very wise man. Thanks

  • @kickpublishing
    @kickpublishing Před 2 lety +2

    In crypto where nothing is regulated, exchanges trade against you and will wick down and stop you out even when the charts don't reflect that price move, Binance is the worst.

  • @Eric-nb7vg
    @Eric-nb7vg Před 4 lety

    Awesome video thanks

  • @ahmedam77
    @ahmedam77 Před rokem

    Great video! Thanks a lot!

  • @victoregalue
    @victoregalue Před 10 měsíci

    This is soooo good, I'm watching it over and over to internalize it. Thanks for sharing it. is there a video of the full interview?

  • @76biggdogg
    @76biggdogg Před 2 lety

    Man this is what I've been looking for.

  • @JesusGanga
    @JesusGanga Před 3 lety +7

    Sometimes its the simplicity of the game that screws us over tbh. It's really not a difficult game to play but the difficulty comes from outside sources.

  • @OptimusPrime-dz9md
    @OptimusPrime-dz9md Před 2 lety +3

    Put your entries where the masses put their stops"

  • @Defxz
    @Defxz Před 7 lety +8

    Stops order provides liquidity :)

  • @robertschuster7246
    @robertschuster7246 Před 7 lety

    very usefull also when the stock decides to plunge past your stop loss which is in plus you still get the full minus hit very painfull and unexpected

  • @bennyallen2394
    @bennyallen2394 Před 4 lety

    Awesome videos!!!

  • @lungeloshandu6459
    @lungeloshandu6459 Před 4 lety

    Beautiful video👌

  • @ezrhino100
    @ezrhino100 Před 2 lety

    these videos are excellent once the ideas fully sink in.

  • @socrates_the_great6209

    This old man is SO wise!

  • @AliKhan-fs3rm
    @AliKhan-fs3rm Před 5 lety +2

    Smart guy !!

  • @missionpupa
    @missionpupa Před 6 lety

    Very good insight.

  • @vittoriobiondi4855
    @vittoriobiondi4855 Před 2 lety +1

    Easy. If all the retail traders use the same indicators, than all of them will have the same forecasts on the graphs and put more or less the same SL and/or limits.
    Institutional traders have the liquidity to go against retails traders and influence the market making money.

  • @oxbys3531
    @oxbys3531 Před 3 lety +16

    This is why I am pro-active and monitor my own trades without stop losses, would rather loose a little extra than be stopped for nothing.

  • @zhengxijiang4087
    @zhengxijiang4087 Před 2 lety

    This is great stuff

  • @tradingakademi1557
    @tradingakademi1557 Před 2 lety

    simply epic advices

  • @larrrythecableguysoldneigh8899

    Every word he said makes so much sense

  • @saadkhatri1129
    @saadkhatri1129 Před 2 lety +1

    In the world of investment retail level individuals certainly have their edge over fund managers. But but... In the arena of trading hedge funds and other institutional traders are literally the market movers. They are market themselves.

  • @MalikAli-gm4yf
    @MalikAli-gm4yf Před 4 lety

    That's valuable ❤

  • @MegaYamahar
    @MegaYamahar Před 3 lety

    This is really good....

  • @matarawije
    @matarawije Před 4 lety +2

    Man your channel blew me out of the water. I am a fish

  • @mqaisarzahoor
    @mqaisarzahoor Před 3 lety

    Loved it.

  • @anuragdas7811
    @anuragdas7811 Před rokem

    WATCHING THIS AMAZING INFORMATION 2022...Stil worth it

  • @sunnysamuel2649
    @sunnysamuel2649 Před 3 lety

    Nice 1...Put your entries where others put their stop loses

  • @storymed8294
    @storymed8294 Před 3 lety

    Gold gold gold gold , thank you universes

  • @SystemTraderAkhilesh
    @SystemTraderAkhilesh Před 2 lety

    I am a retail trader but use this institutional trader strategy, I don't wait for any confirmation.

  • @jinxypoes1
    @jinxypoes1 Před 4 měsíci

    Its a good tip,but most of the time you need to wait to see reversal of the market or value gap or candles,so you never know exactly where you can set your trade on the lowest part of the stoploss instead.. You can guess and hope that you hit an orderblock

  • @nickedmunds1829
    @nickedmunds1829 Před 4 lety +5

    I don’t use stops at all, just do what the charts tell me to do on reversals! It retraces of course but only to a certain level then carries on its merry way! 61.8 Fib is normal in a trend buy/sell at that level to get good price.

  • @tawonamagede6637
    @tawonamagede6637 Před rokem

    Amazing

  • @timothyketterer205
    @timothyketterer205 Před 3 lety +1

    MMs and banks always come to trigger my buy limit positions with their huge selling pressures then trends go up.

  • @mastereymaster8180
    @mastereymaster8180 Před 4 lety

    Yes you mean it MA AND candle stick pattern is .

  • @ExplorewithZac
    @ExplorewithZac Před 2 lety

    I use 3.5 ATR with a length of 5 to 10 for my trailing supertrend. Has been working well.

  • @naveeddall1250
    @naveeddall1250 Před 2 lety

    This is gold.

  • @CryptoBroke
    @CryptoBroke Před rokem

    finally saw this man in hd

  • @juanpablomdq
    @juanpablomdq Před 7 lety +1

    Keep on the good work!

  • @socrates_the_great6209
    @socrates_the_great6209 Před 4 lety +3

    What he is saying is exactly what our suspicion said it would be. And he confirms it. He just words it like in a beautiful manner but still say the professionals do it on purpose. Not a random coincidence, they do it on purpose. Exactly like every retail trader belives.

  • @ernestcityofchoicefxtrader9982

    David is smart

  • @agedvagabond
    @agedvagabond Před rokem

    I make plenty of money with my stops at those levels, it makes sense for my strategy. This is an over simplification. I think the problem is entering at the wrong time, not waiting for the flush which is the real setup if the markets not following through on momentum or if its the wrong time of day or a major market is about to open or close. Just putting an entry because other people have stops isn't a great intraday strategy maybe if you're building into a 1000 contract position with the trend. Take it with a grain of salt, just put your stops where you're most likely to make consitent money it's that simple.

  • @lucazanetti8168
    @lucazanetti8168 Před 6 lety

    Ok. My problem is not on entry. Now I'm sure!

  • @tiebeetroottk8501
    @tiebeetroottk8501 Před 7 lety

    smart but true

  • @thiru1501
    @thiru1501 Před 4 lety +2

    Trade by his words at 2.50.will be successfull trader

  • @r.c.6940
    @r.c.6940 Před 5 lety +6

    this is common sense folks, the market doesnt give two shits about the fact you put your stops 20-30 pips away from your entry. They only give a fuck about supply and demand levels. if youre in tune with the markets, sentiment/fundamentals, it will become much more clear where these levels are. you will see the the move down is not actually a reversal, but a just a pullback.

  • @sportsreels1102
    @sportsreels1102 Před rokem

    I'll remember that..

  • @tsebomadisha4750
    @tsebomadisha4750 Před rokem +1

    Enter were you were going to put a Stop Loss