the one that only works when the computer is plugged in is great for keyboards with lights on it or other similar items and it is very smart in my opinion
First video of yours I have seen. Great overview and amazingly well done! This thing would literally be a lifesaver for my desk, not only are there wires everywhere but I have been looking for some tiny compact speaker too. Very cool!
@@CameronDoughertyTech When I press the volume up or down key on my logitech keyboard it causes a glitch and the keyboard won't stop sending the volume up/down command unless you do a hard reset. Logitech knows about this and took a year to issue a firmware fix for the most expensive keyboards they sell (MX Mechanical) but still nothing for the moderately priced keyboards like mine (K375s). Logitech's main business is keyboards and they couldn't even get that right or fix something so basic.. Do you trust them with something this complex?
@@CameronDoughertyTech any update on this product? It's down to $199 but I'm still unsure of it based on the wonky power delivery/monitor resolution "issues".
Not too sure if anyone has commented on the quirks with the USB power ports. The Logi dock is technically a USB hub. A basic USB hub doesn't require external power and power is channeled from the host device that the hub is connected to. Put it this way, the ports with the power icon indicates that power comes from an external source and power on the usual ports comes from the host device. So that explains why only the ports with the power icon is able to charge devices when a host device is not connected or powered off.
@@CameronDoughertyTech yes after posting the comment i checked the account and found out you just started out last year, so godspeed ! keep it up, you earned a sub ✌🏻
I was super excited about this product; I literally would check the website everyday for 7 months hoping it would be released. When it finally was released I bought it that day! Unfortunately, I was super disappointed when it arrived. I was unable to support 2 monitors using my MacBook Pro or Air. The Logi Dock only allowed for me to connect one monitor, the second monitor was just a mirror of the first and there was no option to unmirror them within the MacBook setup. It was almost as if the second monitor didn’t even register. Another huge miss was the fact that the USB-C ports were not Thunderbolt ports. I think this products design is amazing, but it still has some big gaps, in my opinion. As much as I wanted this to be the definitive work from home product, I think the misses are too big for me right now and too big to justify a $400 investment. My hope is that the Logi Dock 2.0 will address these gaps and deliver the seamless experience.
Sorry to hear you are not happy with it. Do you have a MacBook with normal M1? Because these do not support dual display in the first place. MacBook Pro M1 Pro or Max should support dual display I believe.
Yes, the Logi dock doesn't have the ethernet port. I am looking for a similar dock and noticed one called hidock h1. That one has a 2.5Gbps ethernet port. It would much better fit our needs. Most importantly, more useful ports with less price. So nice.
Love the shout-out to the UE Megaboom (still the best bluetooth speaker around). My employer provides a Dell USB-C docking station for home setups which works fine but lacks the integrated audio functionality. I would much rather have this one! Thanks for the detailed review, very helpful for future work from home enhancements.
@@Burritosarebetterthantacos When I press the volume up or down key on my logitech keyboard it causes a glitch and the keyboard won't stop sending the volume up/down command unless you do a hard reset. Logitech knows about this and took a year to issue a firmware fix for the most expensive keyboards they sell (MX Mechanical) but still nothing for the moderately priced keyboards like mine (K375s). Logitech's main business is keyboards and they couldn't even get that right or fix something so basic.. Do you trust them with something this complex?
It's 2022 and they can only manage 5W and 7.5W USB ports, and even worse, it doesn't support Thunderbolt. In 2022. :(. And HDMI 1.4b? This would have been a good choice about 3 or 4 years ago.
Hey man, good video, but one critique. Hi-Speed USB means that the USB bus will work in 3.0 5GB/s vs USB 2.0 480MB/s. That is why the monitors can only run with reduced resolution, there isn’t enough data bandwidth over the USB-C cable, because this isn’t a Thunderbolt 3/4 dock it only has a bandwidth of 10GB/s.
Thanks for the review. I was really looking forward to seeing this. Regarding the power issue, it seems like a standard issue for hubs. I have two hubs. Caldigit TS3+ and Caldigit TS4. On the TS4 on launch they actually sold it as a feature that one of the ports was useable "even" when a computer is not connected even though the hub also has a considerable power brick.
Really cool product, however i’d like it to have an Ethernet port, laptop charging (100v) and an extra HDMI port. If they would add that, i’d be the perfect Hub.
Check out the hidock h1, similar audio dock with more ports but less price. That one supports 100W charging to laptop, dual HDMI, and 2.5Gbps ethernet.
What is Unified Communications (UC)? Unified communications (UC) is an umbrella term for the integration of multiple enterprise communication tools -- such as voice calling, video conferencing, instant messaging (IM), presence, content sharing, etc. -- into a single, streamlined interface, with the goal of improving user experience (UX) and productivity.
That other USB A that doesn't charge devices when no computer is connected is made for Mouse and Keyboards or devices that doesn't need to be ON when no computer is connected, this is to save power and also if have RGB keyboard and mouse, it's better if they are Off when no computer is attached.
I am really glad I watched this. This is expensive. Like many others, I am a hybrid employee who spends most of my time at home and some time in the office. With that being the case, I am always dealing with "remotely managed" peripherals and desktop quirks. I cannot spend a lot of money on something that I need to tinker with - it has to be plug and play with the ability to manipulate right from Windows as IT is not going to indulge my requests for peripheral supporting software. With that being said, I look forward to the evolution of this product.
I found a similar product called hidock h1. It has more ports, speakerphone and AI functions. Looks much better. Most importantly, less price. That one may best suits your needs.
2:20 My guess would be that UC stands for “unified communications”, which would be relevant to any converged device, such as an IP phone, soft phone, any of the Cisco platforms / competing platforms, etc.
I'm glad I've got that video from my recommendations since it's the first time I come across one of your videos. I will definitely be looking into this dock since I was looking for some nice speaker for my desk.
My work provides me with a rather high end Dell thunderbolt dock and it has completely changed how I see my work station. I wish there was something with the conferencing tools of this, but the amount of io I need from my current dock.
I currently use a Lenovo ThinkSmart View for Teams. While it isn’t an apples to apple comparison by any means I will say that the lack of a touchscreen for the Logi would be a problem for me, especially in business use. The Teams integration is a major feature as I’m typically joining 2-3 meetings per day. I love the built in speakers and the USB dock/dual monitor support. I hate the power brick. I just recabled my wfh setup with my sit to stand desk and that type of power brick isn’t welcome 😞
14:45 Those port without flash sign are just regular usb port for data. Of course you needing computer to charge through computer USB port. This makes sense. That is pretty much all the standard USB hub did. It is a USB hub not a USB power adapter.
When I press the volume up or down key on my logitech keyboard it causes a glitch and the keyboard won't stop sending the volume up/down command unless you do a hard reset. Logitech knows about this and took a year to issue a firmware fix for the most expensive keyboards they sell (MX Mechanical) but still nothing for the moderately priced keyboards like mine (K375s). Logitech's main business is keyboards and they couldn't even get that right or fix something so basic.. Do you trust them with something this complex?
I think the design structure is the focus of the "dock" without diminishing what a dock is. To have peripherals that should not be interrupted by creating a perfect/uninterrupted system at a hardware level is a very reasonable design. It would make sense to have different teams to focus on their set of goals/expectations and have another team put them together. However, to have open arms to wider demographics to be successful in products that are not strictly limited, like businesses or corporate only, it is a matter of time that problems arise with up to date disclosures.
This is a really nice Dock if I didn't already order a Mac Studio I would have loved to have this for past year I been using M1 Mac mini. Not enough ports for sure so this would have totally changed that outlook and been so awesome to use. Good Video I like the tests you put it through gives us a great insight of how we could use this in our everyday life.
The USB-A that only charges when a computer is plugged in may be the one they are planning to be used for the camera. Reason I think this is they would need a controlled switch to power off to that port, which would be controlled by that camera button. It makes sence to only power that port if a PC is available to use the camerra.
Just curious, can you plug a USB A Ethernet Dongle to it, and get on the Network instead of WiFi. I think LAN connection would provide stable video quality.
@@zeppelin0110 And then the OP would complain it didn't have enough power for that 4080 Ti he's been looking at. Or how big and heavy it has become. Or all of the above.
This seems to be build for the simple desktop single screen setup not for laptops. They probably thru in more compatibility last minute to get more sales which explains the power needs and non-working features.
Check out the hidock h1, similar audio dock with more ports but less price. That one supports 100W charging to laptop, dual HDMI at 4K 60hz, and 2.5Gbps ethernet. I would say hidock is much better to meet our needs.
The charging issue is probably because of the circuitry. I'd say it would make things a bit more complicated to make all the ports charging ports without a laptop connected, so this is a way for them to shave off a few more dollars. Also kind of redundant because you have one working USB-A port and one USB-C. The only reason I could think of where it would be handy having both ports active without an attached laptop is for charging bluetooth peripherals. In any case I'd probably have a cheap 4 port USB dock plugged into that charging port so I have a few more available. They're pretty cheap on Amazon.
well - most important ports are again on the back-side: USB-POrts vor a quck plugin of e.g. usb-stick or clink-plug for headset… so, i've to get-up, bow all over my desk plate and fumble in again the needed device… why the engineers never think like users‽
The reason why you can't charge from some ports are because they are directly mapped to the type c input from the laptop, and no passing of current is done by the hub to them
I've been looking for a speakerphone that can double as "decently good computer speakers" for my home office. I don't really care about the "USB-C dock" features, just the speaker and microphone. I currently use an HP Thunderbolt 3 Dock Gen 2 with its "audio module" upgrade, which is a *GREAT* sounding speaker and microphone. My biggest question is how good the stereo separation is on playback. My HP dock is smaller, so not very good stereo separation, in spite of good audio quality. (One of my HP Dock's video output ports is failing, and my new monitor can act as a Thunderbolt dock itself, so I don't need the full dock capability, and I can't get the HP Dock to work "slaved" to the monitor's Thunderbolt out, nor the monitor connected to the HP's Thunderbolt out.) I also wonder what functionality of it is available if you connect to a computer using USB-A (via a USB-C to USB-A cord.) Since I don't need video out or charging, as long as the full audio functionality plus the USB ports work, that's all I need. (Then I could plug it into one of the monitor's USB-A ports.)
amazing review. went deep enough to really get to know the product. Its march 2023 now and i'm wondering whether firmware updates have fixed the weird charging issues and resolution caps (which would really be a reason not to buy) - plus i wish it had ethernet, but that is not a deal breaker
It’s super cool, but not for $400 dollars. Very good video on it though, and I thank you for this. Good enough for me to have subbed! Thanks Edit: I have an iPad Pro with the Logitech keyboard which I love. I think this would go really well with it, but for what it is, the cost is just not justifiable for what I could get for less money, that is of much higher quality. In all honesty, this is more portable, but again, in all honestly, there is no way I’d drag this thing around with me. It sort of reminds me of a solution that is looking for a problem.
Glad to finally see a video about this thing! One question I've not quite been able to find an answer to: I already have a USB C-hub plugged into my laptop, and I really only want this for its microphone/speaker (don't need usb power/display ports/etc). Can I just plug this into a normal USB-A port on my dock to get that functionality, or will it ONLY work when plugged into a full powered USB-C port?
The issue with external monitor resolution is more likely the USB-C PD port bandwidth not the power. I have a USB-C PD monitor that does the same - if I enable USB ports on the monitor I cannot hit 4K 120Hz reliably (a lot of flickering).
That makes a lot of sense. My mind was stuck on the other USB ports but the overall bandwidth for the connection to the PC is probably it. Thanks for sharing!
Yeah probably the setting is changing the USB-C ports from 10Gbit to 5Gbit and thus freeing up some bandwith for the monitor outs. If you want multiple high resolution / high refreshrate monitors on a dock, you're better off with Thunderbolt 3/4 dock, not just "regular" USB-C. But with Thunderbolt support, this thing would be easily another 200$.
@@Pekeliini Thank you for the info, however, any insight as to what this means? E.g., the implications of running running thee USB-C port to 5GB? Also, thank you to Cameron re: posting!
I would assume the only real impact would be if you’re connecting a storage device and sending data back and forth (i.e. using an external drive, transferring data to/from a phone, etc). Anything not transferring data would be unaffected. Please correct me if I’m oversimplifying though.
Does the Logi Dock support a 144Hz refresh rate through its DisplayPort 1.4 connection? I need to confirm its compatibility with a monitor that operates at 144Hz.
I wonder what kind of chip/dac it uses for audio. It would be cool if they used a sabre chip, something similar to what LG used for the quad deck in their flagship phones, with your capable of driving 600 ohms.
hi, fabio from italy ! great video, but i have one question : i have a monitor samsung NEO G8, it doesn have output audio . i use the logi dock with my mac. but i have a PS5 . how can i connect the logi dock to my ps5 ?
what if you use it to talk to someone over teams? Lots of time there is feedback coming from the speaker and the mic picks up vocie causing echos. So odd that there aren't many types of this dock. The only hubs with speakers so far is HP and an unknown company called Goobay.
2 computers with 2 display outputs. An option to display one per monitor or use both displays for one device. And a KVM or other integrated functionality to switch between devices easily (even if it had to be in the Logitech ecosystem) would be elite.
Doesn’t the MacBook or mac studio usb c only output a single hdmi source? Like I don’t think you can get two separate display outputs from a single cable so idk if this would be useful for nonwindows users looking for that specific feature
With regards to the power from the USB Ports to charge units, one is a powered USB and the other is not. Just like with most laptops, the unit needs to be connected and powered on to be able to allow data and power transfer, hence why the port with the thunder sign works (coz its the powered USB Port) and the other does not. This is just as per design, same is noted even on most Windows PC's This also makes me think that maybe your iPhones should charge with the two other USB-C Ports when connected to a laptop?
High Power USB 3.0 basically works like most other USB-C Docking Stations where it downgrades the USB 3.0 ports to work like 2.0 for better graphical power when using multiple higher quality external monitors.
How can you “highly, highly recommend” this product with all the problems you outlined? Huge ac adapter, mediocre mic quality, charging port issues, unusable buttons-wow, this really seems like a prototype and not a finished product. I use a LOT of Logitech products, but I would not buy this until these issues are resolved. Thanks for letting us know about them.
"mediocre mic quality" It has similar sound quality to office speaker phones that run in the hundreds of dollars range. It's better than most laptop microphones, which is what many people would be upgrading from. While it does not sound as good as a studio USB mic on a mic stand holding the mic within a few inches of your face, you also don't need this thing up in your face; right tool for the job.
Nice Video, but won’t the image output be mirrored? Or can they be extended most usb c docks are only able to mirror the screen which means that you have 2 external screens with the same image
If I have other speakers that I use going though my monitor wireless how exactly will the speaker work if I use a iPod pro going into the monitor USB c will I get sound from both?
The reason you were getting capped at 1080p for your displays when USB 3.0 is enabled is because it dedicates part of the data bandwidth to USB which means HDMI & DisplayPort cannot push more pixels (data) through. It’s not a power nor a wattage issue, it’s the bandwidth limitations of a USB-C connection.
It can with Windows (this is how my daily work setup is configured), I think folks have been having trouble with Mac though. I haven’t gotten to fully test it out but am working on a follow up video to show these types of things.
How does logi tunes work with Google Meet? And does the middle button actually force you to join a meeting scheduled in your calendar immediately? It would be good if you could do a video on the functionality with Google Meet/ zoom as many people will purchase for this reason.
Comments like this absolutely help drive what I’ll make next so thank you for that! The middle button opens the Google meeting but doesn’t auto join. It’s the same as if you click join from Google Calendar. You still get a chance to mute/turn off video before joining.
@@CameronDoughertyTech that's really helpful. Many thanks for your reply. I happen to have the Dell UltraSharp U4919DW 49 inch monitor which has a strange resolution of 5120 x1440 @60 hz. I'm struggling to find out if the logi dock is compatible with my particular monitor. Please let me know if you think it will work with this monitor?
Based on the Logitech support page, that type of Super Ultrawide should be supported at the full 60hz. I don't have a monitor in that resolution to test so you'll have to go off of Logitech's word, but based on what they've put out thus far, I think you should be good. prosupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/4414665665943
Great review (i have been waiting for this to come out and for someone to review it!). It would have been nice to hear the laptop mic vs the logi dock mic to compare the quality difference. Few other questions maybe you can answer: - do the lights underneath show the status of mute and if you are "joined" and in a meeting? - are the lights/status changes of the lights easy to see when on your desk/are they bright enough? - does the mute button work regardless of if you have the meeting app focused? (does it "mute" just the mic on the hardware or does it also set your teams/zoom call statues to muted? if so, do you have to have said app "in focus" in order for it to work?) thank you! im curious to the above because a lot of that was promoted on the logi site but not sure how much made it into this version/firmware.
@@seansong918 yeah me too but alas my setup uses my laptop mic/webcam mic and I dont have access to a pro mic (unfort). Would like to hear how much/if the logi dock mic is better than the default laptop mic/common webcam mic. Its supposedly an upgraded mic but idk how much better compared to the typical daily drive setups like an existing webcam or laptop mic.
I've been waiting for reviews of this for months. It seems pretty great but I just looked up the price and... wow. Edit: So I was somewhat won over by the audio quality and the pricing of similar items but then I saw the dual monitor support and was both disappointed and confused. I run dual 4k monitors at 60hz off a 3 year old video card (albeit a desktop) at the office. I'm shocked that this dock, in 2022, can't push dual 4k at 60hz. I'll have to double-check but I believe my Surface Book dock can push dual 4k at 60hz using DisplayPort and I've had that dock for years. My confusion comes with the details of 'what' display we're talking about here - I found the table referenced in the video and it doesn't seem to explain which ports we're talking about effectively. Are we talking USB-C displays? Or DisplayPort with HDMI 1.2? It mentions the resolution of one HDMI plus two DP's, but not one HDMI and one DP. I guess I need to email their support staff.
It’s definitely not cheap. I similarly was eagerly awaiting the release and, in the interim, was thinking about how to create something similar but for cheaper. The closest I could get would be a speakerphone (like the ones from Jabra or Anker) plus a USB hub (like Dell, Sabrent, Anker, etc.). No matter how I sliced it, you’re getting close to the $300-400 range in order to get decent quality components. So in that case, the $400 price tag for an all-in-one package starts feeling more reasonable. Still a lot though.
@@CameronDoughertyTech Yeah, after doing the same, my sticker shock lowered a bit. It depends on how well this Logi dock works - If it can handle the directional audio mentioned but not demo'd in the video and run two displays at 4k 120hz, it might be worth it. But you could get a USB-C dock and a Logi P710E for around $300... But certainly close.
@@CameronDoughertyTech When I press the volume up or down key on my logitech keyboard it causes a glitch and the keyboard won't stop sending the volume up/down command unless you do a hard reset. Logitech knows about this and took a year to issue a firmware fix for the most expensive keyboards they sell (MX Mechanical) but still nothing for the moderately priced keyboards like mine (K375s). Logitech's main business is keyboards and they couldn't even get that right or fix something so basic.. Do you trust them with something this complex?
I noticed that problem, too. The ethernet port is a must have for many people during work. So I bought hidock h1. That one has a 2.5Gbps ethernet port. It would much better fit our needs.
Great review! UC usually stands for Unified Communications - tools like MS Teams, Zoom Phone, 8x8, Avaya, Cisco etc all fall under that category
Thank you K, you beat me to the punch. Spot on!
the one that only works when the computer is plugged in is great for keyboards with lights on it or other similar items and it is very smart in my opinion
Agreed, there are definitely devices on my desk that shouldn't be on if the laptop isn't plugged in, and keyboard is top of that list.
First video of yours I have seen. Great overview and amazingly well done! This thing would literally be a lifesaver for my desk, not only are there wires everywhere but I have been looking for some tiny compact speaker too. Very cool!
Welcome! Glad you enjoyed. It truly is a game changing little device.
@@CameronDoughertyTech When I press the volume up or down key on my logitech keyboard it causes a glitch and the keyboard won't stop sending the volume up/down command unless you do a hard reset. Logitech knows about this and took a year to issue a firmware fix for the most expensive keyboards they sell (MX Mechanical) but still nothing for the moderately priced keyboards like mine (K375s).
Logitech's main business is keyboards and they couldn't even get that right or fix something so basic.. Do you trust them with something this complex?
@@CameronDoughertyTech any update on this product? It's down to $199 but I'm still unsure of it based on the wonky power delivery/monitor resolution "issues".
Not too sure if anyone has commented on the quirks with the USB power ports. The Logi dock is technically a USB hub. A basic USB hub doesn't require external power and power is channeled from the host device that the hub is connected to. Put it this way, the ports with the power icon indicates that power comes from an external source and power on the usual ports comes from the host device. So that explains why only the ports with the power icon is able to charge devices when a host device is not connected or powered off.
Excellent summary 👍
Looking forward to an updated review. :)
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Ah, thanks man! The growth takes time but comments like this keep me going. 😃
@@CameronDoughertyTech yes after posting the comment i checked the account and found out you just started out last year, so godspeed !
keep it up, you earned a sub ✌🏻
I was super excited about this product; I literally would check the website everyday for 7 months hoping it would be released. When it finally was released I bought it that day! Unfortunately, I was super disappointed when it arrived. I was unable to support 2 monitors using my MacBook Pro or Air. The Logi Dock only allowed for me to connect one monitor, the second monitor was just a mirror of the first and there was no option to unmirror them within the MacBook setup. It was almost as if the second monitor didn’t even register. Another huge miss was the fact that the USB-C ports were not Thunderbolt ports. I think this products design is amazing, but it still has some big gaps, in my opinion. As much as I wanted this to be the definitive work from home product, I think the misses are too big for me right now and too big to justify a $400 investment. My hope is that the Logi Dock 2.0 will address these gaps and deliver the seamless experience.
Sorry to hear you are not happy with it. Do you have a MacBook with normal M1? Because these do not support dual display in the first place. MacBook Pro M1 Pro or Max should support dual display I believe.
So sad it doesn't have a Ethernet port
Yes, the Logi dock doesn't have the ethernet port. I am looking for a similar dock and noticed one called hidock h1. That one has a 2.5Gbps ethernet port. It would much better fit our needs. Most importantly, more useful ports with less price. So nice.
Love the shout-out to the UE Megaboom (still the best bluetooth speaker around). My employer provides a Dell USB-C docking station for home setups which works fine but lacks the integrated audio functionality. I would much rather have this one! Thanks for the detailed review, very helpful for future work from home enhancements.
The megaboom was awesome until I got the JBl extreme. Of course its more cash.
@@Burritosarebetterthantacos When I press the volume up or down key on my logitech keyboard it causes a glitch and the keyboard won't stop sending the volume up/down command unless you do a hard reset. Logitech knows about this and took a year to issue a firmware fix for the most expensive keyboards they sell (MX Mechanical) but still nothing for the moderately priced keyboards like mine (K375s).
Logitech's main business is keyboards and they couldn't even get that right or fix something so basic.. Do you trust them with something this complex?
It's 2022 and they can only manage 5W and 7.5W USB ports, and even worse, it doesn't support Thunderbolt. In 2022. :(. And HDMI 1.4b? This would have been a good choice about 3 or 4 years ago.
I would have expected logitech to include a logi Bolt in this, it would have been a nice addition
I can tell you spent a lot of time on this video! So awesome!
A quick turnaround but happy with the results. Thanks for watching!
Hey man, good video, but one critique. Hi-Speed USB means that the USB bus will work in 3.0 5GB/s vs USB 2.0 480MB/s. That is why the monitors can only run with reduced resolution, there isn’t enough data bandwidth over the USB-C cable, because this isn’t a Thunderbolt 3/4 dock it only has a bandwidth of 10GB/s.
Thank you! Exactly the clear explanation I needed. Appreciate it.
Thanks for the review. I was really looking forward to seeing this. Regarding the power issue, it seems like a standard issue for hubs. I have two hubs. Caldigit TS3+ and Caldigit TS4. On the TS4 on launch they actually sold it as a feature that one of the ports was useable "even" when a computer is not connected even though the hub also has a considerable power brick.
Really cool product, however i’d like it to have an Ethernet port, laptop charging (100v) and an extra HDMI port. If they would add that, i’d be the perfect Hub.
Check out the hidock h1, similar audio dock with more ports but less price. That one supports 100W charging to laptop, dual HDMI, and 2.5Gbps ethernet.
What is Unified Communications (UC)?
Unified communications (UC) is an umbrella term for the integration of multiple enterprise communication tools -- such as voice calling, video conferencing, instant messaging (IM), presence, content sharing, etc. -- into a single, streamlined interface, with the goal of improving user experience (UX) and productivity.
Yay, I’m so glad I found your authentic channel 😊.
Great video! I’d just recommend speeding up your explanations. A had to apply 1.75x for it to be similar to other youtube presentation videos
That other USB A that doesn't charge devices when no computer is connected is made for Mouse and Keyboards or devices that doesn't need to be ON when no computer is connected, this is to save power and also if have RGB keyboard and mouse, it's better if they are Off when no computer is attached.
I am really glad I watched this. This is expensive. Like many others, I am a hybrid employee who spends most of my time at home and some time in the office. With that being the case, I am always dealing with "remotely managed" peripherals and desktop quirks. I cannot spend a lot of money on something that I need to tinker with - it has to be plug and play with the ability to manipulate right from Windows as IT is not going to indulge my requests for peripheral supporting software. With that being said, I look forward to the evolution of this product.
I found a similar product called hidock h1. It has more ports, speakerphone and AI functions. Looks much better. Most importantly, less price. That one may best suits your needs.
2:20 My guess would be that UC stands for “unified communications”, which would be relevant to any converged device, such as an IP phone, soft phone, any of the Cisco platforms / competing platforms, etc.
I'm glad I've got that video from my recommendations since it's the first time I come across one of your videos. I will definitely be looking into this dock since I was looking for some nice speaker for my desk.
Welcome and thanks for watching. I’m glad it found you as well!
My work provides me with a rather high end Dell thunderbolt dock and it has completely changed how I see my work station. I wish there was something with the conferencing tools of this, but the amount of io I need from my current dock.
I currently use a Lenovo ThinkSmart View for Teams. While it isn’t an apples to apple comparison by any means I will say that the lack of a touchscreen for the Logi would be a problem for me, especially in business use. The Teams integration is a major feature as I’m typically joining 2-3 meetings per day. I love the built in speakers and the USB dock/dual monitor support. I hate the power brick. I just recabled my wfh setup with my sit to stand desk and that type of power brick isn’t welcome 😞
14:45 Those port without flash sign are just regular usb port for data. Of course you needing computer to charge through computer USB port. This makes sense. That is pretty much all the standard USB hub did. It is a USB hub not a USB power adapter.
One Ethernet port would be nice, or can one of the usb c be used as a passthrough?
Very good, honest and balanced review. Could you please do a demo video of you using a two screen extended set up with this on your mac? Thanks.
Thanks for this, really informative and helped my decision.
When I press the volume up or down key on my logitech keyboard it causes a glitch and the keyboard won't stop sending the volume up/down command unless you do a hard reset. Logitech knows about this and took a year to issue a firmware fix for the most expensive keyboards they sell (MX Mechanical) but still nothing for the moderately priced keyboards like mine (K375s).
Logitech's main business is keyboards and they couldn't even get that right or fix something so basic.. Do you trust them with something this complex?
Sounds like a great product to wait for a v2 of.
I think the design structure is the focus of the "dock" without diminishing what a dock is. To have peripherals that should not be interrupted by creating a perfect/uninterrupted system at a hardware level is a very reasonable design. It would make sense to have different teams to focus on their set of goals/expectations and have another team put them together. However, to have open arms to wider demographics to be successful in products that are not strictly limited, like businesses or corporate only, it is a matter of time that problems arise with up to date disclosures.
This is a really nice Dock if I didn't already order a Mac Studio I would have loved to have this for past year I been using M1 Mac mini. Not enough ports for sure so this would have totally changed that outlook and been so awesome to use. Good Video I like the tests you put it through gives us a great insight of how we could use this in our everyday life.
The USB-A that only charges when a computer is plugged in may be the one they are planning to be used for the camera. Reason I think this is they would need a controlled switch to power off to that port, which would be controlled by that camera button. It makes sence to only power that port if a PC is available to use the camerra.
Just curious, can you plug a USB A Ethernet Dongle to it, and get on the Network instead of WiFi. I think LAN connection would provide stable video quality.
A dock like this with a GPU inside would be one of the best docks.
Now we’re talking! That would be epic. It would probably need some RGB as well though.
And ssd:)
Not feasible. GPUs are huge and output a lot of heat. How could you have a speaker as the outer layer then? Also, the cost would be insane.
@@zeppelin0110 And then the OP would complain it didn't have enough power for that 4080 Ti he's been looking at. Or how big and heavy it has become. Or all of the above.
omg this product is so innovative 😲
I don't know *why* the ports don't charge without a computer attached, but Dell USB-C hubs do the same thing
This seems to be build for the simple desktop single screen setup not for laptops. They probably thru in more compatibility last minute to get more sales which explains the power needs and non-working features.
Check out the hidock h1, similar audio dock with more ports but less price. That one supports 100W charging to laptop, dual HDMI at 4K 60hz, and 2.5Gbps ethernet. I would say hidock is much better to meet our needs.
The charging issue is probably because of the circuitry. I'd say it would make things a bit more complicated to make all the ports charging ports without a laptop connected, so this is a way for them to shave off a few more dollars. Also kind of redundant because you have one working USB-A port and one USB-C. The only reason I could think of where it would be handy having both ports active without an attached laptop is for charging bluetooth peripherals. In any case I'd probably have a cheap 4 port USB dock plugged into that charging port so I have a few more available. They're pretty cheap on Amazon.
well - most important ports are again on the back-side: USB-POrts vor a quck plugin of e.g. usb-stick or clink-plug for headset… so, i've to get-up, bow all over my desk plate and fumble in again the needed device… why the engineers never think like users‽
The reason why you can't charge from some ports are because they are directly mapped to the type c input from the laptop, and no passing of current is done by the hub to them
I've been looking for a speakerphone that can double as "decently good computer speakers" for my home office. I don't really care about the "USB-C dock" features, just the speaker and microphone. I currently use an HP Thunderbolt 3 Dock Gen 2 with its "audio module" upgrade, which is a *GREAT* sounding speaker and microphone.
My biggest question is how good the stereo separation is on playback. My HP dock is smaller, so not very good stereo separation, in spite of good audio quality.
(One of my HP Dock's video output ports is failing, and my new monitor can act as a Thunderbolt dock itself, so I don't need the full dock capability, and I can't get the HP Dock to work "slaved" to the monitor's Thunderbolt out, nor the monitor connected to the HP's Thunderbolt out.)
I also wonder what functionality of it is available if you connect to a computer using USB-A (via a USB-C to USB-A cord.) Since I don't need video out or charging, as long as the full audio functionality plus the USB ports work, that's all I need. (Then I could plug it into one of the monitor's USB-A ports.)
I have the Poly Sync and want to try Logi Dock, Having 2 monitor displays is definetelly something unexpected.
Love this ! Thank you for the review ! :D Im happy to get one when it comes to Australia which i know it will ! :)
How does this work with wide screen monitors? I have a 1440 HP widescreen and Dell 24” tall screen I need to connect.
Great review. Can it charge a macbook pro 16 inch?
have you found out if that works?
it does nothing more than my $40 usb-c hub does. fantastic logi!.
amazing review. went deep enough to really get to know the product. Its march 2023 now and i'm wondering whether firmware updates have fixed the weird charging issues and resolution caps (which would really be a reason not to buy) - plus i wish it had ethernet, but that is not a deal breaker
It’s super cool, but not for $400 dollars.
Very good video on it though, and I thank you for this.
Good enough for me to have subbed!
Thanks
Edit: I have an iPad Pro with the Logitech keyboard which I love. I think this would go really well with it, but for what it is, the cost is just not justifiable for what I could get for less money, that is of much higher quality. In all honesty, this is more portable, but again, in all honestly, there is no way I’d drag this thing around with me.
It sort of reminds me of a solution that is looking for a problem.
Glad to finally see a video about this thing! One question I've not quite been able to find an answer to: I already have a USB C-hub plugged into my laptop, and I really only want this for its microphone/speaker (don't need usb power/display ports/etc). Can I just plug this into a normal USB-A port on my dock to get that functionality, or will it ONLY work when plugged into a full powered USB-C port?
There’s a USB port with a lightning bolt. I would assume thats the port you should be charging from as the other one maybe outputting a lower voltage.
I was looking at this as a solution for a small conference room but the lack of an Ethernet port makes it less attractive.
Can i connect my Pc AND my iPad with hdmi
Monitor and charging the iPad at the same time?
I was expecting to see Audio Input and Output in the LogiDock
The issue with external monitor resolution is more likely the USB-C PD port bandwidth not the power. I have a USB-C PD monitor that does the same - if I enable USB ports on the monitor I cannot hit 4K 120Hz reliably (a lot of flickering).
That makes a lot of sense. My mind was stuck on the other USB ports but the overall bandwidth for the connection to the PC is probably it. Thanks for sharing!
Yeah probably the setting is changing the USB-C ports from 10Gbit to 5Gbit and thus freeing up some bandwith for the monitor outs. If you want multiple high resolution / high refreshrate monitors on a dock, you're better off with Thunderbolt 3/4 dock, not just "regular" USB-C. But with Thunderbolt support, this thing would be easily another 200$.
@@Pekeliini Thank you for the info, however, any insight as to what this means? E.g., the implications of running running thee USB-C port to 5GB?
Also, thank you to Cameron re: posting!
I would assume the only real impact would be if you’re connecting a storage device and sending data back and forth (i.e. using an external drive, transferring data to/from a phone, etc). Anything not transferring data would be unaffected. Please correct me if I’m oversimplifying though.
Nice dock then I checked the specs. Not Thunderbolt 4. USB-C only dock is worthless to me as I have two Thunderbolt 5k monitors.
Does the Logi Dock support a 144Hz refresh rate through its DisplayPort 1.4 connection? I need to confirm its compatibility with a monitor that operates at 144Hz.
Danke!
I am worry about the usb connection stability in a vibration chamber.
can you use it on a desktop tower without usb c
I wonder what kind of chip/dac it uses for audio. It would be cool if they used a sabre chip, something similar to what LG used for the quad deck in their flagship phones, with your capable of driving 600 ohms.
hi, fabio from italy ! great video, but i have one question : i have a monitor samsung NEO G8, it doesn have output audio . i use the logi dock with my mac. but i have a PS5 . how can i connect the logi dock to my ps5 ?
what if you use it to talk to someone over teams? Lots of time there is feedback coming from the speaker and the mic picks up vocie causing echos. So odd that there aren't many types of this dock. The only hubs with speakers so far is HP and an unknown company called Goobay.
Been using the dock for 2 moths now. All good but recently, the fan seems to randomly turn on. Do you have similar problem?
I have usb c in my laptop. Will my ethernet LAN to usb c work when attached to logitech dock.?
I would love that with a KVM switcher to change between my gaming pc and the work laptop
2 computers with 2 display outputs. An option to display one per monitor or use both displays for one device. And a KVM or other integrated functionality to switch between devices easily (even if it had to be in the Logitech ecosystem) would be elite.
This will greatly complement the mac mini!
Doesn’t the MacBook or mac studio usb c only output a single hdmi source? Like I don’t think you can get two separate display outputs from a single cable so idk if this would be useful for nonwindows users looking for that specific feature
With regards to the power from the USB Ports to charge units, one is a powered USB and the other is not. Just like with most laptops, the unit needs to be connected and powered on to be able to allow data and power transfer, hence why the port with the thunder sign works (coz its the powered USB Port) and the other does not.
This is just as per design, same is noted even on most Windows PC's
This also makes me think that maybe your iPhones should charge with the two other USB-C Ports when connected to a laptop?
High Power USB 3.0 basically works like most other USB-C Docking Stations where it downgrades the USB 3.0 ports to work like 2.0 for better graphical power when using multiple higher quality external monitors.
How do you power off?
Sounds like it's just a speaker + USB hub. Will be better if it can be used as a KVM switch between 2 computers
How can you “highly, highly recommend” this product with all the problems you outlined? Huge ac adapter, mediocre mic quality, charging port issues, unusable buttons-wow, this really seems like a prototype and not a finished product. I use a LOT of Logitech products, but I would not buy this until these issues are resolved. Thanks for letting us know about them.
"mediocre mic quality" It has similar sound quality to office speaker phones that run in the hundreds of dollars range. It's better than most laptop microphones, which is what many people would be upgrading from. While it does not sound as good as a studio USB mic on a mic stand holding the mic within a few inches of your face, you also don't need this thing up in your face; right tool for the job.
Well done video! The device looks remarkably like a black Mac Studio, don't you think?
Dimensionally for sure! It would be funny seeing them side by side.
Nice Video, but won’t the image output be mirrored? Or can they be extended most usb c docks are only able to mirror the screen which means that you have 2 external screens with the same image
If I have other speakers that I use going though my monitor wireless how exactly will the speaker work if I use a iPod pro going into the monitor USB c will I get sound from both?
The reason you were getting capped at 1080p for your displays when USB 3.0 is enabled is because it dedicates part of the data bandwidth to USB which means HDMI & DisplayPort cannot push more pixels (data) through. It’s not a power nor a wattage issue, it’s the bandwidth limitations of a USB-C connection.
I'm a fan of the mouse and keyboard.
Has the camera on/off button been fixed?
Are the display and hdmi mirror or extend mode? Meaning can I show two different screens when connected to my laptop or desktop?
I have a 4k USB-C monitor. Do you know if I can use the Logi Dock USB-C port to use this monitor? Thanks!
I’m getting asap
Did your Mac identify both monitors automatically? Mine only sees one and just mirror to both.
This does two monitors extended mode ? I don't think it does right? because you would have only one video source.
It can with Windows (this is how my daily work setup is configured), I think folks have been having trouble with Mac though. I haven’t gotten to fully test it out but am working on a follow up video to show these types of things.
What do voices sound like coming out of its speakers? You just jumped to music to sample its output
They sound very good. Try 9:45 for an audio clip with voice. 😉
no thunderbolt?
How does logi tunes work with Google Meet? And does the middle button actually force you to join a meeting scheduled in your calendar immediately? It would be good if you could do a video on the functionality with Google Meet/ zoom as many people will purchase for this reason.
Comments like this absolutely help drive what I’ll make next so thank you for that! The middle button opens the Google meeting but doesn’t auto join. It’s the same as if you click join from Google Calendar. You still get a chance to mute/turn off video before joining.
@@CameronDoughertyTech that's really helpful. Many thanks for your reply. I happen to have the Dell UltraSharp U4919DW 49 inch monitor which has a strange resolution of 5120 x1440 @60 hz. I'm struggling to find out if the logi dock is compatible with my particular monitor. Please let me know if you think it will work with this monitor?
Based on the Logitech support page, that type of Super Ultrawide should be supported at the full 60hz. I don't have a monitor in that resolution to test so you'll have to go off of Logitech's word, but based on what they've put out thus far, I think you should be good. prosupport.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/4414665665943
It’s too expensive! Doesn’t even have Ethernet, essential for serious streaming.
Looks good. Add a webcam, then it will be perfect!
no front usb ports?! that...kind of sucks
Looks like it would be a good product after multiple firmware updates.
Great review (i have been waiting for this to come out and for someone to review it!).
It would have been nice to hear the laptop mic vs the logi dock mic to compare the quality difference.
Few other questions maybe you can answer:
- do the lights underneath show the status of mute and if you are "joined" and in a meeting?
- are the lights/status changes of the lights easy to see when on your desk/are they bright enough?
- does the mute button work regardless of if you have the meeting app focused? (does it "mute" just the mic on the hardware or does it also set your teams/zoom call statues to muted? if so, do you have to have said app "in focus" in order for it to work?)
thank you! im curious to the above because a lot of that was promoted on the logi site but not sure how much made it into this version/firmware.
What I got from the review was comparing external recording (pro) mic with logi dock mic.
@@seansong918 yeah me too but alas my setup uses my laptop mic/webcam mic and I dont have access to a pro mic (unfort). Would like to hear how much/if the logi dock mic is better than the default laptop mic/common webcam mic. Its supposedly an upgraded mic but idk how much better compared to the typical daily drive setups like an existing webcam or laptop mic.
@@alanjones9464 I'm interested in that benchmark as well.
I've been waiting for reviews of this for months. It seems pretty great but I just looked up the price and... wow.
Edit: So I was somewhat won over by the audio quality and the pricing of similar items but then I saw the dual monitor support and was both disappointed and confused. I run dual 4k monitors at 60hz off a 3 year old video card (albeit a desktop) at the office. I'm shocked that this dock, in 2022, can't push dual 4k at 60hz. I'll have to double-check but I believe my Surface Book dock can push dual 4k at 60hz using DisplayPort and I've had that dock for years.
My confusion comes with the details of 'what' display we're talking about here - I found the table referenced in the video and it doesn't seem to explain which ports we're talking about effectively. Are we talking USB-C displays? Or DisplayPort with HDMI 1.2? It mentions the resolution of one HDMI plus two DP's, but not one HDMI and one DP. I guess I need to email their support staff.
It’s definitely not cheap. I similarly was eagerly awaiting the release and, in the interim, was thinking about how to create something similar but for cheaper. The closest I could get would be a speakerphone (like the ones from Jabra or Anker) plus a USB hub (like Dell, Sabrent, Anker, etc.). No matter how I sliced it, you’re getting close to the $300-400 range in order to get decent quality components. So in that case, the $400 price tag for an all-in-one package starts feeling more reasonable. Still a lot though.
@@CameronDoughertyTech Yeah, after doing the same, my sticker shock lowered a bit. It depends on how well this Logi dock works - If it can handle the directional audio mentioned but not demo'd in the video and run two displays at 4k 120hz, it might be worth it. But you could get a USB-C dock and a Logi P710E for around $300... But certainly close.
@@CameronDoughertyTech When I press the volume up or down key on my logitech keyboard it causes a glitch and the keyboard won't stop sending the volume up/down command unless you do a hard reset. Logitech knows about this and took a year to issue a firmware fix for the most expensive keyboards they sell (MX Mechanical) but still nothing for the moderately priced keyboards like mine (K375s).
Logitech's main business is keyboards and they couldn't even get that right or fix something so basic.. Do you trust them with something this complex?
No Ethernet port! That's quite a shortcoming.
I noticed that problem, too. The ethernet port is a must have for many people during work. So I bought hidock h1. That one has a 2.5Gbps ethernet port. It would much better fit our needs.
cool
I bought one of these at work for the operations office and morning meetings are great. No audio issues. Now if only teams could stop being so shit
it is a usb dock with speakers.. nothing more.. in fact..its lack of 1gb network, card reader and front or top usb ports..
it seems your sound volume is too low
is it supporting Apple Macbook Pro M1 for dual monitor ??
Doubtful. It’s an important question.
Anyone have the answer?
Paying $150 for desktop speakers (HP G5 Dock is $250) , if this somehow also integrated video it would be worth it.
I personally don't find this useful but still appreciate a new product category with unique features.