The BEST headphones for your Quest 2 (and Quest 3!)
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Editors Note The Sennheiser Headphone brand has recently been acquired by EPOS. So While the logo and branding has changed, the build quality and components are all the same.
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How cool! I already have the PC38x and the Quest 2 and I never thought to use them together. It makes perfect sense! This whole time I was using ear buds when I could have been using my proper headphones.
It is a great combination!
Great video!!!! I’ve been searching high and low, buying and trying headphones with this level of quality AND A BOOM mike that flip mutes. My search is over. I now know it doesn’t exist.
bear in mind, the jack on the quest is headphones only. so the mic wont work with the headset. I wish meta would just put a multipurpose jack in their headsets. the internal mic is GARBAGE
Just purchased a used pair of these off ebay in good condition for $60. Hope they're as good as you say the are! Great video by the way.
I have gotten unanimous positive feedback from folks that bought them on my recommendation. I never would have made the recommendation if I didn't think they were awesome.
Just for info you can get Sennheiser GSA 506 - Replacement Cable with a 90deg jack 1.5m long and it works great.
bought them and I have used them for a week now and LOVE them!!!!
Glad you dig them!
@@SaddestClown wait aren't streaming right now lol
Thank you for the great info . I have been using Logitech g333vr for a while now and there 3d audio was really good. So I’m looking forward to getting my ordered pc38x . Thank again for your fantastic content.
thanks for checking it out!
Man! I’ve wanted to ask you. I have the Logitech Pro set and to me I can’t always spatially determine sound direction. Ugh. Gonna have to save my coins to upgrade. Loving this kind of vital content. Rock on!
glad i can narrow the hunt for you!
my quest 2 internal speakers stopped working all the sudden after I tried to connect my airpods, I appreciate the video Imma have to check it out
I have gotten really positive feedback from everyone that took my advice... so it's not just my opinion.
Basically I get this headset and Imma hear like my enemies but better Aiht
Yeah, but having a full comprehensive understanding of what variables make a headset perform better than another one is actually going to help people make better choices... if I just said, "dis hed fone gud" people would have no awareness of how good it actually is.
Thanks!
thank you so much! that is very generous of you!
Thanks Saddest, I've just ordered mine from drop, the black ones. They Called Epos PC38X. They're exactly the same, their parent company. $139
Thank you Saddest, you promised you delivered 👏
I am a clown of my word
*Ordered a pair. Thanks*
I just purchased a small battery powered headphone amp from Amazon just for use with my quest2… I’m going to use some Velcro to keep it attached to the back of my kiwi design strap. I have a lot of headphones, I hoping it will sound good with my hifiman planars I have laying around. I own the DAS head strap as well, and the sound quality is kinda meh, and I can’t fit headphones over it, but it’s convenient.
That is an intersting option for higher impedance headphones. I would love to hear about your experience with it once you have tested it a little. I wonder if it might add a little latency and possibly noise to the audio. I know the VR ears have an internal amplifier but were made so cheaply they ended up just making a ton of white noise. so I would be interested to see if there is a viable low cost option
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I would get this but I use the bobo vr m2 plus with the battery packs and it useing the charging slot 😢
Good news! There is a headphone jack right next to the charging slot. I use a battery pack too. you can do both at the same time.
Thanks for showing how to get great audio on Quest 2!!! I will try to save up and get these headphones A.S.A.P!
they go on sale from time to time also. so you can save a good $30 if you wait for the right moment.
@@SaddestClown I searched and the pc37x kept coming up
Ok! Thanks for the pro tip!
@@dread_yt use the link in the description of the video. The brand is switched from sennheiser to EPOS. But the PC37X has different drivers and will not give you the same frequency response. Similar but different
Thanks for the great information!
I need all the help I can get ... I was waiting on this video. Thanks
Glad I could help!
No on ear headphones no buy, I love the headphones on my index. Great sound, no extra stuff
Agreed. The audio solution on the index/reverb G2 was my cross comparison standard. Apparently there is now an audio solution for the quest that utilizes the same design and drivers as the index speakers, but it plugs in to the USB-C port, and only fits over the official meta branded headstrap which means you have to sacrifice the external battery banks and comfort to use it, so these headphones are the closest I was able to come to index quality audio without compromising on play time. They might not be completely off ear, but they are comfy and dont even touch your ears. They are warmer than off ear though.
Much appreciated!!
I love all the bobovr accessories very cool. I been using my corsair headphones I might have to grab some senheiserner
Psst hey, I've used both the PC38x's an the EPOS 602s for quest 2 gaming and they work really good aswell, just that 602s have better mids and highs but both are still great headphones, just wanted to point it out aswell, but still a good list, because the PC38x's are cheaper there prob the better option for most people
Great feedback! If I'm not mistaken the 602s have the same drivers in them (the massdrop version seemed to be a budget refresh). I never tried the 602s myself though, so I didnt want to speculate on comparisons (in case there were any noticeable differences from the angle of the driver or something). So it is great to know both headsets pack the same punch.
@@SaddestClown Yes, the drivers are the same, it also (in my option) better build because the thing has metal all over it, mainly it's in the headband, but that makes it a lot heavier than the PC38X, so I've just been using the PC38X for PCVR/quest gaming and 602s for flat screen gaming because 602s are more heavier and more made for your boots on the ground flat screen gaming, but both will do just fine, but you mostly know the arctic 7+/P's by SteelSeries but more for lightweight a option for a single player (E.G the climb 2, trust me you want lightweight EVERYTHING that game) but again it will do fine with multiplayer games
Instructional content, awesome!
To anyone thinking about getting these headphones. They will not work out of the box with your quest 2. They come with a 2.5mm plug to connect to your audio source. The quest 2, and almost all other headset plugs needs a 3.5.
Normally this would not be a problem, just switch it out with a 3.5 cable. At least on mine that is not a possibility as the way the cable itself connects to the headset it needs to be the exact size of the port hole, thus the factory cable is all you can use.
I am not saying don't get this head set, but if you do get a 2.5 female to 3.5 male adaptor with it
that is wierd. mine came with both a 3.5 male 2 in 1 connector as well as a 3.5 separate mic and stereo cable. is it possible you are confusing the specs for the cable that plugs into the headset itself? because that end is a 2.5mm, but that is only on the headset side, the other end of the cable fits a standard 3.5 mm jack.
if it doesnt come with the standard 3.5 mm jack that is a change in the spec that I was not aware of.
The cable on these headphones is removable, the 2,5mm end goes into headphones. 2,5mm is used there to save space inside headphones.
I just use the pulse 3d wireless and their the goat
Right now i play with no headphones this could really help
oh yeah, this is a BIG upgrade from the internal speakers.
Nice presentation and editing 👏👏👏
Thank you so much 🙂
OMG that horse is the best!! 😆
He looks right into your SOUL!!! Best apartment complex dumpster score ever!
Ordering mine shortly. 🤐
Enjoy!
Loved the video they look like I need to go get some
Did you take the thumbnail yourself??? That's a dope picture I must say
yup
Wow. That was a really good vid!
Someday I will (hopefully) be a full time content creator and be able to spend my time making videos like this (and better)
Awesome vid of clown seems like a great headset and login that room mood lighting👍
I didn't want to make a video with boring white walls in the background
Awesome video thanks🍌
No problem 👍
Thank you.
Awesome video!
Have you tried to find a shorter replacement audio cable, since the cable is removable?
It's a weird cable. Only one side is the standard 3.5mm jack, the other side is 2.5mm (I think?) So it might be tough finding an alternate.
The PC38X are not available in Germany appearantly. Do you have a secondary recommendation maybe?
unfortunately I do not have another recommendation that gives comparable performance results. but before we give up, right around the time this video was relesed Sennheiser sold their headphone branch to EPOS. I know that threw a bunch of people off. but if you are able to find the EPOS PC38X headphones, they are the exact same hardware, just with a different logo on them.
Is there no similar strap for Quest 3 to use with headphones? BoboVr seem to only have mini version with a strap going overhead and a an expensive battery version...
I personally hate the battery strap. they messed with the rear pad and turned it into a wierd, wiggly bracket thing. it's awful. I bought an adapter kit for the q2 version of the strap with no battery. way better. but I dont know if that option is still available either. but it is likely a halo strap from a third party vendor will do just as well. the key is making sure there is sufficient clearance above the ear that the headphones can sit flush against your skull
I happen to already have a PC38x that I don't use very often anymore, so this is great news. I was leaning towards getting a Kiwi strap when it comes out for my Quest 3, but I have no idea if the headset will work as well for Kiwi as it does for BoboVR.
Havent tried the kiwi strap, but I can say that the clearance above the ear with the bobo strap is kind of critical. Over ear headphones will provide better audio if they are able to make a full seal around the ear. So if your head strap gets in the way, not only will it be less comfortable, you may lose some of the soundscape clarity.
I see you updated your video title to include the q3. Have you tried your headphone with the meta elite strap? Which i think is considerably larger than some other strap.
No I havent. The quality control issues that have plagued the last two generations of elite straps have pretty much disqualified them from consideration in my opinion
Great info! Thanks!
By the way, is there anything in particular you do do deal with loud gun noises? When I crank the volume enough to hear detailed footsteps, climbing, etc. the guns feel like they're going to make me go deaf.
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Out of curiosity - do you think that open back headphones help with directional sound vs closed? Dunno if this was an intentional part of your tests. I have a pretty good set of closed back, but have been curious about open vs closed as heard this mentioned at some point.
I do actually think that open backed makes a difference in sound staging. when you hear things in real life, you hear them with both ears. so if something is on your right side, you still hear it in your left ear, just at a lower volume and at a miniscule difference in timing. your brain is able to catch those tiny differences and piece together the location of that sound. so while open backed headphones arent the EXACT same listening experience as listening to real world audio, they do offer a much closer analog than closed back, and are WAY closer than earbuds.
Great video. I actually use the vr ears for now as they were cheap ($40 on eBay), a definite upgrade over the quest 2 speaker and headphones in vr seem to screw with my balance. I wonder if the open backs on the pc38x will help a bit with that - I have tried some beyerdynanics dt770s before.
+ Pony with crazy is eyes was a funny touch - I wondered at the start about the horse picture foreshadowing!
I rescued Google eye horse from the dumpster of my apartment complex. It makes me giggle So I figured I should feature it.
The VR ears are a great idea ON PAPER. But the low quality components in them make for a listening experience that is about as good as listening to a radio station that is out of range. So much white noise, some frequencies are way too hot while others are barely audible. I used them for a couple play sessions and hated every minute of it.
@@SaddestClown I kinda wonder whether they had quality issues in manufacturing - mine don't seem to suffer with rattles, clicks or white noise that I read so many others had 🙂
@@StealthJim Same! I've been using VR Ears since they shipped out from Kickstarter a while back. I did have to spend a significant amount of time getting them properly set up and angled, but once in place I absolutely LOVE them. I've been using them with a BoboVR M2 Pro battery strap. I wonder if there is a lot of inconsistency in their manufacturing as I've never experienced a single issue with noise, rattles, distortion, or anything. The directional audio with the built-in Quest 2 speakers was certainly there, but there wasn't enough dynamic range or volume. For me, VR Ears actually solved all of that. My only complaint is that everyone else can hear the audio coming out of them as well, but that's how off-ear works. Lol.
Did you test any in-ear buds? I've tried over-ear before, but can't deal with the added bulk and heat. Thank you for putting this together, very informative.
Earbuds are usually very low impedance, but very lackluster for spacial audio.
@@SaddestClown , did some research and found the explanation for why earbuds can't image a soundstage:
"...passive soundstage performance is bad, but this is normal from closed-back, in-ear headphones. To create an out-of-head audio experience, your outer ear needs to be activated by sound resonances. However, these headphones bypass your outer ear by design, so sound seems like it's coming from inside your head rather than coming from speakers placed in the room around you. Since they don't have a open-back design, the soundstage seems closed-off and not very spacious."
Yeah, no way in hell I am ever buying anything from Assdrop or Stankheiser again. Both are a joke to me after the HE350
Why would headphones made by a completely different company have any bearing on your opinion of sennheiser? Drop is just a vendor that sells products from multiple manufacturers. And there are significant differences between manufacturers.
@@SaddestClown They were not made by a different company, it was collab between the exact same 2 companies
You left out the best headphones for the quest 3 too so are there any good ones out there
The same logic applies to the quest 3. These headphones are the goat
Great Vid Clown
Great video! I want to get these and the head strap that you have now! Question. Does the mic on the Quest 2 still work even though your not using the microphone on the headset? Thanks!
im still using the headset mic. the audio jack on the quest 2 is out only. I havent found a version of these headphones that doesnt have a microphone. so I just keep it up and out of the way.
@Saddest Clown Thank you Saddest! You are so helpful and nice! 🙂
Thank you, Saddest. Quick question. If you wire-connect headphones to ur oculus, where do you connect your power-bank? You usually play longer then 2 hrs…
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this is just connected via the headphone jack, I use the USB-C to charge from the power bank.
@@SaddestClown Ha, I haven’t even noticed it has one. I thought your headphones connected through usb-c. The only time I tried to use headphones, i connected via bluetooth and it had 1 sec sound delay and i switched back to basic oculus audio. Thanx
Do you think this is will god for VR racing to ?
@@daviddudas2820 yes
Do you have a recommendation for open back headphones with low impedance for the Quest Pro or Pico 4? I don't think they have the nice Bobo aftermarket option for larger space above the ears so I'm trying to find a nice open back headphones set that doesn't get too hot.
I have not tested either of those headsets, but would love to hear feedback if you wind up giving them a try.
could you provide a link for the cable managment ties please, thanks.
Just basic velcro cable ties. www.amazon.com/Hmrope-Fastening-Adjustable-Microfiber-Management/dp/B085F2LWW6?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A66IX15EHOXVO
Thanks Clown, what is the head strap that you are using? I’m not sure mine will give enough clearance for that size headphone
Bobo VR m2 headstap
Have you tried soundcore vr p10? Was wondering how it compares
I have never found any ear buds that truly offer a solid soundscape. with open backed headphones each ear will still hear the input that the other ear is hearing only with less volume and at a microsecond delay (just like you do when you hear a sound in the real world), and the fact that there is zero latency between the action and the audio is critical to helping your brain figure out the inputs you are recieving. besides, wireless earbuds tend to just be awful. they might not be bluetooth (which is garbage) but its probably not in the same ballpark as entry level audiophile headphones like these guys.
I have the p10. Only issue is that the passthrough will sometimes interfere with the meta elite battery strap. That is of you leave it on all the time and use the meta cradle to charge. Sound quality wise, they definitely are a huge improvement to the q3 default speakers
I'm planning on returning my Logitech Pro Vr headset based on your review. In terms of sound quality how much of am improvement do the pc38xw offer? And how about compared to 560S & H6 Pros?
I look forward to your response.
Thanks
While I do not have hands on experience with those headsets, the spec sheet on the H6 pro does list a 28 ohm impedance. I know that the pc38x was made with the exact same drivers as the sennheiser gsp500, so it's possible those drivers are also being used in other headsets as well... the 560S on the other hand has a much higher impedance, which means they are going to get the best results with a bit more amplification. They are good headphones that will give you a nice listening experience, but they arent going to let subtle audio signals pop like the PC 38x can.
@@SaddestClown have you personally tried and compared against the logitech headset?
Amazing video! Thanks clown
I just bought the headset and everybody voice really low
I gotta ask how is it with the quest 3?
Solid as ever. The only issues I ever had with the quest 3 were software related. For example in the quest 3 build for pop one standalone the audio mix was a mess and I couldn't spatially place sounds. But playing with the quest 3 over airlink on the steam build of the game I had no issues. So that ultimately just comes down to the game devs dropping the ball on including a spatial audio solution into the standalone version of the game. But the headphones themselves still performed exceptionally well with the quest 3
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Just got them in ... Directional sound on these guys is certainly an advantage in the close quarter combat. The only BIG problem is that it's almost too emersive!! Somebody can come hit me on the head I would be clueless.
(Still need to play around with the game sound settings. Every weapon I shoot is blowing my ears off. SFX , Master Sound, Music ..?? ) LOL, thanks Saddest I need all the help I can get HERNANDEZ_007
I would just do some bot battles while your sound mix
@@SaddestClown great Idea
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Clean your damn Hair off the ear pads before you video, other than that good job!
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Thanks!