I bought some expensive Speakers from AliExpress. Are they any good?
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- I just bought some expensive speakers from AliExpress. The brand is called Aiyima. Check out if they are any good.
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Just before discovering this video I had ordered the one you mentioned as interesting on the site. That one with a "gold" and a black variant. I took the black one. We'll see. My primary use is to play bass 🎸 on it so I don't really have the same needs. For instance low E on the bass is 42Hz and there's no reason the speaker would ever encounter lower frequencies.
I have their small 2.5" fullrange speakers in my car dash and they sounds really good, with some filter/DSP it´s quite impressive together with bass drivers in the front doors and subwoofer in back.
Even brick and wooden stick is gonna sound really good after DSP.
@@A13tech No friend, not at all. I wish a DSP could make a purse out of a sow's ear, but sadly it can't.
Would love to see a bookshelf build with thease!
They sell proper dynaudio speakers on their, the flagship ones. They would be among the most expensive single 6 inch drivers they have. The esotars beautiful drivers.
Congrats..Really good video and an excelent topic.... I also ordered some medium budget drivers from that brand but my "fears" were always related to the datasheet values. At least for me that I can't validate them the same way you did.
I bought the coaxial (white with black tweeter) for my car and they sound very well! With a little research i found that they're Cabasse 😮
Thank so much for doing these tests. I'd be more interested in seeing if their full range style drivers were up to snuff.
I bought this 5" a couple of months ago for a 3 way project. I hope they do reasonably well. Wayting to see your build results.
Awesome idea for a video. The specs being way off is what I expected, but I'm very curious what you can pull off in a speaker design using Aliexpress drivers.
In my country the shipping and import fees when buying from parts express/ other sites based in the US is ridiculous, you often pay more than what you paid for the product just for shipping and import fees for example i bought a 75$ 10" driver and the shipping was nearly 50$ and 20$ import fees
I've been buying drivers off aliexpress since and have had pretty great results for the most part (generally haven't spent more than 50$ on a driver from them but what I've purchased so far definitely has me impressed for the most part)
I’ve always been curious about this. Neat.
Thanks for the video. I was always curious how the Ayima drivers perform
That woofer will emit a loud sound when _you are not in use_ . Now wait a minute....
i've ordered the ne66 - neodymium tweeter with silk dome from the company and was pretty happy about it
*silk film
Can you make a video on the units of measurement used & what they mean? Please. 😊
"But 30 core much better" I literally drobbed and laughed on the floor.
good video thanks!, quick question i have an empty box (old focal 707s) and love the build quality of the cabinet, hence looking for best options for 2 way bookshelf and crossover, any recommendations? thanks in advance.
Hi, can I ask if you sent your speaker measurement results back to Aiyima? I was thinking this would be beneficial for people looking into purchasing speakers in the future and get Aiyima to 'lift their game'. Cheers J
Great video. I bought 3 of your courses and I am learning a lot. I do have one question about passive radiators if I don't know the Parameters of the radiator how can I measure them? Thanks.
I am not aware of any method without some specialized equipment. Mechanical parameters are not easily measured
I would have been curious if you would buy a pair, to see parameter consistence. The 5" driver seems quite fair, but if you buy a pair and one has Qts of 0,4 and the other one 0,8 than is just a magnetic paperweight...
maybe, the AYIMA is the OEM for some big brands
Aiyiama is very good stuff, you did test theire mini hifi audio? (I will watch it, this is my first time at your channell)
Just the very fact that as you went through the descriptions of these speakers, I do not even trust the specs (or the charts) that they show. Getting words lost in translation is one thing, but specifications is a whole other can of worms. I just don't trust it.
î was always curious about the leather surround speakers
Thank you i was wondering if it is worth to buy. I have my response
That 6.5" midbass driver looks like a knock-off of an Orion XTR.
I've always wondered how the speakers on AliExpress were, I didn't think the T/S would be trustworthy. There are also some that look like name brand knock-offs.
Keep in mind that AliExpress is simply a storefront type selling system, basically the same as ebay. So all of those products are sold from various different brick and mortar stores.
Hi Marius, are you suggesting the 6 inch speaker would be good for midbass in a door or maybe a leaky sealed box? What was the vas on that speaker?
Watch the video, the Vas number is there (don't remember the value). Regardless of Vas, Qts is over 1. Which means, this speaker is designed for infinite baffle / open baffle setup (or oversized sealed box).
@@AudioJudgement I looked for that driver and couldn't find it..can you post a link?
@@colbylaro9361 www.aliexpress.com/item/4000096258451.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.13.4d0b4e2btI4tr8&algo_pvid=b2811410-9d8a-4e62-891a-541ca7e067e4&algo_exp_id=b2811410-9d8a-4e62-891a-541ca7e067e4-6&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21RON%21496.41%21367.34%21%21%21102.58%21%21%40210318c216958772607624550e1f07%2112000016598913790%21sea%21RO%21873467231%21&curPageLogUid=gq6HY15MjjV6
Those speakers could be good in a horn or a transmission line speaker.
If you put a Eminence label o them, you can sell them double the money. A lot of brand speakers are Made in China.
Polk also do that pin on the tweeter.
Very difficult. You can't be shure if its original or a fake. And the tsp Parameter can chance. 🤔🤔🤔
Tang band 1880 you should try them
Hello !
Why are the prices in Ron ?
Are you romanian ?
Marius, the six inch speaker driver is paper cone or metal? And the 5" speaker is metal cone or paper?
Regards from Portugal 🇵🇹
Edit: do they have both a rubber surround or foam surround? 😂
The cone is metal and the surround is how you call it, rubber.
That 5" uses the same exact frame as the Dayton epique. Not at all surprising... Chinese common practice is to manufacture products for US companies and then "borrow" those designs/materials to sell house-branded products via ali or banggood, or direct to Chinese markets. Because IP is meaningless and there's no legal recourse. Lol
Hy M. isnt the high qts speaker good for sealed box?
High qts is 0.4-0.7. That’s good for sealed. 0.7-1.2 is good for infinite baffle, open baffle or oversized sealed box. Anything above 1.2 is mainly a bad speaker and should be avoided.
the orange cap tweeter looks like it was made by vifa
I'll bet it's a total knockoff. The Vifa one didn't have a copper pin. Vifa is also long gone, and the ring radiators are only made by Peerless and ScanSpeak. They measure much better than this one.
they have subwoofers for couple bucks, why do not u reviem em lol?, thinkin of buyin em
car audio? these 6some inches can be as churchbells ccoz of this 6-7k ringing!!!! regards from greece!!!!
you wouldnt want to play them that high anyway in a door the off axis is more of an issue.
That 6 inch speaker looks like a knock off of Rockford fosgate...atleast the cone anyway. I have to p3s in my car and the cones are nearly identical
Test the HIVI or the melodavid or the vifa they better brands
Acum mi-am sat seama, baiatul e romanas de-al nostru.
The 6.5 looks like an Audison car audio speaker knockoff
A 2'' would be a kmidrange ...
frumos frumos
Not sure if they offer them... but when I was considering refoaming vs replacing 6.5" woofers for a Phillips Woox mini-stereo... I discovered some interesting things...
First... I tried replacing the original drivers with some Sony and Aiwa drivers, that I had collected earlier. Both sounded like complete TRASH compared to the Original Phillips woofers.
Next, I looked up the Company and Driver markings on the Woofers...
They were from a Taiwan company called EastTech. These were MUCH higher quality drivers, than what is put inside of most typical boom box systems. According to what I read, these were specifically made for the special Passive radiator speakers... with a much longer Excursion ...to be able to deliver greater bass levels, without any potentials for over-excursion based distortions.
And this made sense... as even at max volume levels, and the deepest and most powerful bass laden songs... I was unable to get these speakers to show ANY signs of Distortions. In fact, they had the most Deep, Accurate, and "Musical" Sounding Bass... that Ive ever heard (up to that point). No port Chuffing / Distortions. No "Muddy" sounding Bass. Very punchy and "Excited" levels of Bass response (adjustable, by tweaking the Bass EQ levels).
In the End, I decided to just get the drivers Re-Foamed... and they were fantastic... until the foam on the Woox passives themselves, rotted out. Unlike the Woofers, there was no easy repair for the Woox passive units themselves.. as they used back to back passive that have like two expansion rings each (allowing for much greater excursion, than any other standard Passive Radiators).
I believe I have seen certain WOOX devices that were made with all Clear Plastic (Rot Proof), but I never got hold of that version.
Anyway... I just thought Id mention Easttech... as they seem to be much higher quality than typical Chinese made speakers.
Of course, if you want pure "Audiophile Nirvana" ...get brand new drivers from Humanspeakers dot com. Search model " EPI 100v " speakers.. and click on the links to the two listed drivers. You will only need a single crossover cap for these, as the woofers are designed with heavier gauge coils, which automatically filter out the Highs from going into the woofers. These are Sealed speakers, and will provide Powerful, deep, punchy, accurate beyond belief, BASS.
The special Tweeters, are Inverted (concave), and produce one of the Widest and 3d Holographic Sound-Stages, that you will likely ever Experience in your life. Almost the entire room, becomes the "Sweet Spot". Furthermore... these speakers sound insane, no matter where you place them... even if they are partially blocked, under a desk...etc. Also, you could be blindfolded, spun around about 10 times... and asked to try to Find the speakers... and FAIL to be able to do so... because the EPIs are so Holographic... that you dont hear the "Driver". Its as if the audio is holographically projected into the 3d space... without you being able to tell where the projected source is coming from. Meaning... its as if the band members are actually IN the room itself, playing Live. Ive never heard a speaker that even comes close to these. These speakers completely DESTROYED the local $3000 speakers, at the local high end Audio Shop.
I got my EPI 100v Speakers used + re-foamed, for about $100. But if you cant find them locally, and or do not want to get them from Ebay... then buy the drivers directly from the site I mentioned. The guy that operates the site, used to work for the company.. and he hand makes the new drivers. Ive never tested his drivers... so I cant tell you if they are as good or as Improved as he states. All I can say, is that the EPI 100v speakers are a magical Audiophile level speaker, that will blow away your every expectation. You will hear completely NEW things in the Music that you have listed to, for several Decades... due to the powerful magnets of the drivers, that have some of the smallest levels of Distortions, due to Superior Magnetic power and cone control.
EPI / Genesis made a lot of other designs, that feature the same drivers. At least one of these had a passive radiator design, with a larger cabinet. Ive yet to hear that version... and I do wonder if they would make them even better than they already are. That said, Ive also read at least one other post, stating the smaller EPI 100v speakers, sounded more punchy than the larger sized EPIs. I have no idea which model they were referring to, however.
I believe all the drivers you would need, would cost less than $300. The box itself, is nothing special... so would be pretty easy to replicate. The single capacitor is pretty cheap, and is very easy to find online (or you can buy directly from him, for a bit of a markup. Kind of Understandable, as nobody can undercut the big Amazon sellers).
This is so weird I was just looking at there website looking at tweeters and capsitors. I don't know if they are real
Like the audio testers usually do.. get the brand newly released pro comp speaker worth upwards of 5 grand then free air it and try to burn it up in 5 mins.. lol.
ayma face o gramada de amplificatoare clasa d, etc.
You have to visually know the drivers,you cannot read the technical details on any China made units they lie,repeat they lie.
do you have interest in subwoofers? i'm looking into this aiyima's most expensive 4inch subwoofer, the frequency response is too good to be true. But still, it might be close to the truth.
I have two 4inch 40W (about 25$ each) glass fiber version woofers (aiyima's, ghxamp, they sell same woofers) in my bluetooth speaker (with 2 ayiima 6.5 inch radiators) with 2 ghxamp neo silk tweeters (15$ for two) with crossovers and I probably made right box for it so they sound amazing, bass is insane for 4 inch and my woofers are cut at 3.5khz
@@rawux1228 The sub i refer to costs $44.35 right now. It is also glass fiber but Ghxamp does not have an equivalent to this version or it is likely Aiyima is buying this from another subwoofer maker. The low frequency chart is so good that it is even better than the 6.5inch subs.
Don't underestimate them, i have their 4" 40w "carbon fiber" woofers and i put 2 of them in logitech z213 subwoofer enclosures repurposed as bookshelf speakers after adding aiyima 1" silk dome tweeters, i did extend the port by about 0.8" but I'm able to get down to 35hz from them although barely perceptible (probably 20-30db down) it's still quite impressive considering the tuning is like 55hz and the enclosure is overall on the smaller side for those speakers, makes you wonder what they'd do in a proper enclosure.
@@Random_4400 agreed. I so want to buy this because of the size and technology. However, I want to be more logical as I took my sister's unused LG theater sub which appears to be 6-6.5 inches which probably near the performance of this 4inch Aiyima. The LG is quite big to my taste but hard to beat the price because I got it free. Anyway, thanks, I will come back to this Aiyima for a DIY sub in the future.
yah I put my bt speaker in a car and compared it to my alpine swe-1244e 200w 12' subwoofer in original box and bass was almost equal, also my bt speaker's 4 inch woofers play wider range up to 3.5khz and quite nicely. these are one of the best speakers I heard @@Random_4400
what's the problem with a cheap look? and looks are subjective anyway!
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30 core is 30 rounds of copper
Today they are talking about cores , because is a way to create a relationship with maximum watts, more cores more watts
I don't understand anything in audio but need a whole system for my car, so are these any good ?
I too live in subtropics where import from Europe or USA is a joke. I have a 1 kW amp from previous owners, no sub and not looking to add it.
very sketchy drivers from Aliexpress.
Самое неприятное то, что когда ты докупишь еще два динамика, у них могут быть совершенно другие параметры.
3/4" tweeters perform the best
I wonder why there are so huge differences between measures and data sheets displayed on AliExpress.
One option is that they simply cheat and make data sheets that correspond to the speaker they copied and not the ones they produce.
Another worse option is that it is a lottery. Maybe they actually measured one speaker they've produced but the quality of production is random and if you buy a second set of speakers they'll be totally different. It's worse because if you want to make a stereo system you'll never have left and right giving similar sound.
Maybe they've tested 10 speakers of a model and they kept data from one of them that seemed commercially better? If so yo have 10% chance to get a speaker matching roughly the dataset?
1:14 I realise English is not your first language but ........ Should HAVE paid (or should've). Not should of. ;)
Hi Marius i think you gained some weight 😅 I Hope you always Healthy 😅
Yup! Not good. I'm working on it😅
If you paid $80 and $90 for those 2 speakers. You clearly need help making purchases because they aren't worth $30 total for both.
Should HAVE paid, not should OF paid, very bad grammar but English is not your first language so no big deal.
And you what you want now. We can't all be cousins with Shakespeare.
Why use CAPITALS when you can use *bold?* It just comes across as aggressive.
Should've.
If you were able to pick up each speaker with only one hand it cannot be taken seriously bro. There are other professional websites where they actually compare two or three types of speakers by listening to them using very, very expensive microphones to give the viewers an idea. You do nothing of sorts and it shows. Maybe stand up comedy would be an alternative for you.
In my country the shipping and import fees when buying from parts express/ other sites based in the US is ridiculous, you often pay more than what you paid for the product just for shipping and import fees for example i bought a 75$ 10" driver and the shipping was nearly 50$ and 20$ import fees
I've been buying drivers off aliexpress since and have had pretty great results for the most part (generally haven't spent more than 50$ on a driver from them but what I've purchased so far definitely has me impressed for the most part)
it´s not ridiculous, it´s so much shipping cost when not subsidised by tax payers.