Etiquette and Basic Skills (Mountain Bikes 101)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 10. 06. 2024
- Last time we spoke about basic terminology, and defined terms you may have been too embarrassed to ask about. This time we take it a step further and talk about trail etiquette, followed by basic techniques to use on your bike!
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I found the moving someone after an injury part to be a bit simply explained. If the person has a broken arm, sure move them off the trail. If someone is suspected to have more serious injuries such as a spinal cord injury, DO NOT MOVE THEM. Send someone up the trail to warn people coming down so they have time to slow down. A persons health is more important than someone's strava time
Was going to comment this exact example!
Yes never move anyone off the trail after a serious crash. You don't know what's wrong with them. Unless your a paramedic or highley trained in cpr and as a first responder. Best to redirect riders ahead and wait for the professionals to arrive.
Finding out after the fact that you made the injuries worse by moving the person wont be a nice feeling. Let alone possible monitory legal actions towards you.
I've also seen/heard that if you come across an upside-down bike crossing the trail (so it looks like an 'X'), take that as a warning sign that there's been an accident up ahead. Obviously this should only be done way ahead of the accident & noticeable, and only if you don't have a person that could be up ahead warning others... like if you need to attend to your friend and it's only the two of you.
I feel that again is a bit overly simplified.
Check for loss of consciousness, CPR, recovery position and moving away from a dangerous spot, if necessary, take priority over everything else, including not moving the patient.
Best is, to just take a first aid course now and again, especially if you are regularly going to bike parks etc.
I always check on anyone who's stopped even if they look fine. Also always have a first aid kit. Considering my first real biking experience my friend sent a 5 foot drop, went OTB, and got a concussion, I've always been extra prepared.
Seth! You forgot one of the most important things in not pissing people off: don't litter!
^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^
There's just absolutely no excuse for littering. If you bring a snack bar then you can fit the wrapper back in. NO EXCUSE
People who litter are just fools. You can ask them nicely no to littler or do it angrily. They still do it. They figure someone else will clean up their mess or they just don't care if the mess stays there and gets worse and worse. I clean up trails at my local spots and sometimes the litter bugs see me cleaning up their junk and when I come back the next day it's all there again. Keep in mind these aren't other mountain bikes, mainly teenagers and street people hanging in the woods, but it's still BS.
that's not mountain bike trails specific ... Seth is not here to teach people good manners
I love this 101 series! My 19yo son has been an enthusiast since he was 12, and while I have spent countless hours watching mtb videos with him, these are the basics I needed! (Pls note he moved 900kms away this summer to work in Whistler, so watching these makes me miss him less đą)
lucky boi living at whistler !
That's so sweet!
Sadge
Thanks Seth for talking about trail conditions and skidding. Iâm a trail builder so Iâll reiterate the idea of âDonât ride when itâs muddyâ and âDonât go skidding and ripping up the trails.â Itâs hard and time consuming to repair trails that have been torn up from poor etiquette.
Understanding that the bike trails aren't just a "natural phenomenon" is important. It would take a lot of work to keep them up. Also, off topic, I love your mega-man profile picture. I'm never going to see him jump the same again XD God bless :)
Seth just wanna say as someone who also comes from a BMX background I love how you incorporate that into your riding. Gives you a good bit of added style points.
Hey Iâm finally early enough to see the 10 different people claiming to be first.
Wow, hilarious.
Jokeman
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This is definitely the video I'm going to show my friends/students before I go riding with them for the first time! This video is very well-made and shares a lot of useful things that I would never have thought to tell the people I ride with until they've gone over the handlebars, or slammed into a tree because they were looking at their tire!
I subbed to u cuz I like ur profile pic đ
Great idea
Seth in early 2022: So i broke my carbon frame again, can't remember where i repeatedly slammed it. 8:42
Lol!
Lmao
7:39
Carbon fiber doesnât break that easily, especially high grade carbon fiber
@@danyal5288 no cap, thats why i Said repeatedly.
Seth can we get a badass but simple dad bike build. Im thinking converting a hardtail maybe even using a vry simple internal hub. A Jack of all kinda bike that a dad can use from their kids riding on with them to bike rides into their teenage years
Hey, I'm not Seth but I would think that a good dad bike would just be a simple but very sturdy hardtail like a Kona Honzo as the new ones are very modern and have basically all the essentials you would need on it from commuting to shredding trails when your kids grow up as well and you could even pass it on to them later on. :)
get a norco torrent ht they have good pricing good spec and good warranty my dad rides one
and loves it
I think I would recommend getting the best hardtail you can reasonably afford that you're comfortable on, maybe even some slightly wider tires like 2.4 inches. Just something that can handle almost everything you throw at it. Just my opinion. I forgot to mention, if you can afford a reasonably nice, fairly lightweight full suspension go for it, your bones will thank you.
I just use my regular bike. I took off the clipless pedals, put on flats, instant dad bike. haha. The clipless were a hassle when getting on and off the bike a lot. Now I like flats.
@@dadbod4life Yea I totally see what ur saying and im sure it works great, but im looking to build something a little different. Simple and clean looking but functional. Thats why I suggested a internal hub. Im not really looking to just buy a stock bike change a few things and call it a day. Thats why i would love to see what Seth would do, he is far more creative then i am.
a guide once told me that for newer riders itâs not the attack position, its the ready position. he explained that being âreadyâ prepares you for what could be round the next berm - whereas âattackâ gives off the characteristics of aggression and not thinking logically about what you can actually safely pull off, and what will send you into the bushes! stay safe peeps
So what does the ready position look like?
This video was so interesting to watch, even after 11 years of riding
ya
Same
This video was so interesting to watch, even after 38 years of riding
Even though I didn't learn anything it was fun to watch.
8:40, that was sick, mad respect for doing all that for a 2 second clip
1:33 HARD disagree with you there. NEVER move an injuried person if you're unsure if it's a neck or spine injury.
I don't care where they are, move ahead of the turn or trail and slow people down or stop them. DO NOT MOVE A PERSON WHO HAD A NECK OR SPINE INJURY. That is the difference between them having to do physical rehab for a year and back to normal or them being permanently paralyzed.
I'm new to biking and I haven't made any biker friends yet so I am finding these 101 videos sooo helpful, thank you !!
Maaaan, just got into mountain biking because of you and Alex. Been binging your vids all the way back to 2016 hahahahaha
Same I actually made my own trail system and got my cousins into riding
@@trinitycheechoo9123 yooo, thats so cool. I wanna try making one as well but sadly I don't have any backyard for it.
Same lolllll
@@crimvaxine5802 that alright my backyard is 63 acres and I live in a forest
But try making it on the perimeter of your yard or make a pump track and trust me those are very fun.
@@trinitycheechoo9123 i got into it properly bc of them, never looked back
Shared use trail etiquette:
- Children: spot the bike coming and all move quickly and safely to one side of the trail.
- Adults: stand in the middle of the trail yelling at your kids to get over to the other side because the dog was there when you last looked.
- Dogs: attempt to lick oncoming bike.
I ride a paved trail with a line painted down the middle quite a lot. Since this is in the US, the rule is, obviously, always stay to your right. I came cruising around a blind turn one afternoon to find a man and his dog walking right in the middle of my side of the trail. I couldn't have missed him by more than half an inch. He yelled at me, of course, and told me to watch where I was going. "You're on the wrong side of the trail, you idiot!" I yelled back.
@@Durwood71 we have many bike trails like that here. Particularly linear parks lining the course of waterways and old railway lines converted into really boring bikeways between wineries.
The latter tend to be inhabited by inebriates who have forgotten that riding a bike drunk can lose you your car license. The former frequently carry a walker with noise cancelling headphones, attached via a taught leash to a dog walking on the opposite side of the path.
@@Durwood71 Wow, you treated him with class then. I would've stopped and punched the man in the face.
@@LongPeter âŠand the dog is on a 20 ft extendible lease, with the metal wire that you can barely see.
the best notification to get in the morning
It's night here
I've been biking for 26 years and never realized skidding was an issue. Not to say i did it all the time, but just never realized it was an issue or that it was frowned upon. Good to know.
Big problem out here in SoCal. *Big* ruts in all the trails from people skidding in the once a year rains.
Glad to know my HS MTB team teaches me everything but Manuals.
my team isnât even really allowed to teach manuals and jumping and that kinda stuff, nica rules stink
Seth has a bunch of vids on how to Manuel bmx bikes, mtb bikes, road bikes, and even Walmart bikes
Hey Seth, I started watching your videos with no prior knowledge of mountain biking and now, thanks to you Iâm doing a fork rebuild on my new hard tail. Thanks for making such great content!
That intro never gets old
I skip it.
We doing something different but kinda the same
Itâs getting old IMO
Seth is making good educational videos for all skill levels to get tips from, while making them amazingly entertaining, and easy to stay into. More people on CZcams should do this. Thanks Seth!
I really appreciate you making people aware of how to preserve the trails themselves. I know some secret BMX trails with jumps that you're only allowed to ride if you put in a solid 20 hours of shovel time. People take real pride in their trails. Respect.
Great point regarding moving potentially injured riders off the trail. An emergency move if the scene is not safe! If the injured rider canât move, send somebody uphill in a visible spot to warn traffic!
I started building trails about a year ago and I learned so much from you about bikes and trails and so much more so I just wanted to say thank you for this amazing content
we need an in-depth tutorial/explanation about gears and shifting, one of the biggest things preventing new riders from progressing
The Gear near the pedal- is the larger scheme gear for speed...and the gear near the rear wheel is for fine tuning the speed.
just watched a lot of your newe and older videos again and i cant express enough how freaking good you are at your job. like this is unamiginable good content! i think you are the perfect mtb youtuber, you just never miss. wow!
I love the vibe that the videos have recently, it's sligly different... But kinda the same.
And I love it.
10:36, I'm 99% sure that's Seth's bike park, it looks so fun
I think ur right. thatâs sick
When is it suppose to open up? That looks like a whole lot of fun
@@ieatslag5947 I think like late summer to fall
I canât even stress how much this is a tutorial
HA LMAO, YES!!!!!
I was trying to find a way to learn about Mountain Biking, so glad to have found your channel, I actually understand enough to get past my nervousness of social situations now
This video really touches my heart, my soul, my toes, my knees, my shoulder and my head.
This has nothing to do with biking, and youâve probably heard this before, but you have a great voice for narrating or voice over. Itâs up there with Mike Rowe and Walter Cronkite.
I agree!
More MTB 101 videos Seth! I already know 99% of this stuff, but still it's entertaining and it's a new Berm Peak video!
Thank you so much for making this video Seth. So many beginner mountain bikers needed and will appreciate this video! You defiantly just made a difference in the biking community.
I love it that you bring these 101 series for all the newbie MTB addicts. It gives them the right start.
The simplest things you need to know about one of the most expensive things
No, being addicted to buying supercars is the most expensive thing.
Mtb ainât got nothing on dirt bikes
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@@alienfromarea5115 actually, no
"Even if _you_ don't care about being rude to people, it reflects badly on all of us."
This. I hate seeing people behave selfishly and not only spoil something good for the rest of us but negatively color other people's perception of the group in the process, all because they couldn't be bothered to modify their behavior or think about literally anyone other than themselves.
I started biking after seeing your videos. Today me, my wife and my 5 year old do trail riding just because of you. These videos help us understand more about mountain biking. Thanks again đ
I respect that Seth is giving simple techniques and skills for new bikers in the MTB community. Even as a more experience mountain biker I still like a refresher to the simple but important rules. Thanks Seth!
Not really sure moving someone off the trail if they have a catastrophic back or neck injury is the best advice. Prolly get your friends to run up and slow people down before they get to this crash site. We did that back in my mountain boarding days.
Lowkey, he put this out so people don't mess up his park
With all the patron money, donations, and add revenue it doesnât matter if someone messes up the trail, it will cost Seth pennies to fix it
@@danyal5288 It does matter for everyone driving there.
The most helpful video I've watched. Thank you.
As someone who is brand new to the sport, thank you for making these videos. Us new folks appreciate it a lot! Your channel has been super informative and also amped up my interest in getting started mountain biking. Love the videos and content.
Hi Seth, I want to know what riders do to adjust to different trail conditions. What bike/gear preparations do you typically do for riding in wet conditions, dry conditions, and even snowy conditions? Also, how do you change your riding style in these conditions? Thanks!
In Scotland, it's either ride in the wet or nor ride at all.
Thatâs why I only ride park
That would suck
@@danyal5288 In Scotland, thats a hard task.
@@beerenmusli8220 ye, there's only 2 proper chair lifted parks here
This is perfect! As a dad who just took my 5-year-old son out to a trail for the first time yesterday, This is going to be a great video to show him to reiterate everything I was trying to tell him on the fly.
Funny how I got this notification as I was watching an older vid on him rebuilding this exact bike
I find a crucial component that all of us should have while riding almost any trail (and ESPECIALLY multi-use) is a bell. Not just a manual bell, but an auto-bell like a Timber Bell. I canât even count how many times Iâve been thanked on the trail
Amen! Have one and have had Many positive comments from non-riding trail users. Huge positive p.r. device(!).
I love that ive watched so many of your videos that i know the lesson before you say it
Once again, thanks for the great info! I'm new to MTB, and this really helps.
Hey Seth, could we get some more info on The progress of Berm Park? I canât wait till itâs done, because I live in Hendersonville⊠also, I go to Kanuga all the time!
Can we make the "Etiquette" part mandatory with every purchase of an MTB?
These are really great videos. Thanks for posting.
One of the best channels on MTB!
Seth, you talked about shifting. Iâm trying to adjust my rear gears. Most videos are clear, but Iâm missing one step in all of them. And that is what is the main tensions on the cable on the derailleur? How tight or loos must it be? Iâll hope to hear from you. Thanks.
To get the right tension, adjust the high limit until it is perfectly lined up with the highest gear (smallest cog). Next pull out all the slack from the cable and clamp it down with the pinch bolt. (Your shifter should be in the highest gear position when you do this). Press the downshift button, which would bring you to the next gear (larger cog). If the chain does not shift into that gear, add more tension to the barrel by rotating it out. This will extend the distance the cable travels, with the same length, so there will be more tension on it. If it shifts two gears at a time, relieve tension. If this doesnât work, be sure to check derailleur hanger alignment
Thanks for the explanation Iâm going to try. Hope it helps.
@@sebastiaanfrenks5336 hope so
tight enough that every gear shifts nicely. you'll know it when it's too loose or tight (doesn't shift well or double shifts)
@@samhenderson7528 more help needed, gearing from the smallest to the largest cog goos fine but back dus not. Itâs misses the second from the top en corrects it at the smallest two again, any suggestions?
Hi Seth! I've been trying to whip,I've watched tons of tutorials,but I can't really do much.I can move my rear end,but maybe like 45 degrees.I want to learn how to make it bigger,without falling.Can you do a video about this?
some tips are to 1. carve the lip a little 2. use your weight to throw it around and kind of pull your bars back and use your feet and legs to kick out the tail 3. just ride your bike more the way I learned was just to practice more
@@noahcollins91 I ride my bike every day,and always practice new tricks,but this is the only one I can't handle.Fell off twice,I know superman,no hander etc. U name it,I carve,use my legs to control the 'leverage',but I don't know what I'm doing wrong...
@@adonisteez Things that made me learn whips in austria from pros:
1. Bump the jump less (bunny jump it less, instead absorb a bit of the altitude in favour of speed) , carve with high speed makes the movement easier, train the speed so you dont fly over the jump and land on your face (learned this the hard way)
2. Practice the same jump, do the carve harder for every attempt until you find exactly the spot (lean in more on the jump)
3. Upper body is super important, pull the handlebars back towards you and extent those hips. (dont pull into a dead sailor but pull a bit when you are learning, and extent the hips and legs, almost like a squat)
4. Bigger jump = easier whips (most cases atleast)
5. Find the right jump. Straight jumps are siiiick when you get whips down good, but when you learn try and do jumps with berms leading into them so you already carve quite a bit, this also makes the carves easier and landings more forgiving.
6. If this didnt help, then practice jumps that to crossovers, aka, a jump that goes to one direction but in the air you have to lean the other way to make the berm with speed.
Goodluck mate
@@llamacannon1714 Thanks mate! Happy trails
Iâm pretty experienced on the trails and even I still learned from this, THANKS
Thanks seth. Love your videos
4:83 Maybe a little exaggerated, but possible, and can we take a moment to appreciate how Seth purposely went OTB (Over The Bars)must for the sake of this video?
Seth, the different but kinda the same thing is old man. Its like when a kid says something silly and you laughed. But now he wont stop saying it because he thinks it'll always get a laugh.... please....
It's branding. I like it.
Thank you, Seth! Iâm looking forward to the next video in this series.
Wow!!! What an incredibly useful video.
1st
Congrats. You are
Pee pee poo poo
This intro never gets old...
This series is great!
Ive been riding for 4 ish years and this was the most entertaining video lol
This is a great video! I just bought a full suspension and Iâve learned so much. Time to put it into practice!
Thanks for the tips, lots of helpful stuff
Its always a good day when Seth posts!
This was very well done. Thanks for sharing this with us
New to mountain biking and this video definitely helped out
Its great to have you back Seth, and Berm Peak crew!
Content is information gold. Thanks
Seth is by far my favorite MTB YT content creator. He's paved the way for many others to follow. He was the first to add narration to the videos, the first to collaborate with other YT creators, the first to tell a story. The first to DIY build everything including trails and his garage setup. He's the first to physically move for improved YT content creation. The first to buy and create an MTB Airbnb house for mountain bikers. Seth continues to improve on his storytelling to the point he could work on other professional platforms. I use to watch all the channels, Singletrack, BKXC, N Hills, JKW, and several others. I've dropped most because the content has become so repetitive. How many chest-mounted videos can one watch, or the how-to manual or wheelie, or how to build a jump or whatever...? Seth's content has over the past year has been borderline "okay". I realize the pandemic or his injury didn't help but the trend was already in place. The issue I see with most YT creators is the content is either getting SO repetitive or they're simply running out of good story ideas. This is one of those videos. I miss the old Seth, from South Florida to his first 2 years in NC.
This one had me cracking up at the end there!
Love the breakdowns man, keep them coming!
Just ordered my first legit mountain bike and this video has a lot of great info for a newbie like myself. Thanks for this.
Loving this kinda stuff. Making me want to buy a mountain bike like this.
All very good stuff thank you seth
Really helpful. Thank you đđ»
At 40yrs old I decided to get myself a mtb. I rode when I was a kid but havent been on a bike since. These videos are so helpful, thank youđ
This was so helpful thank you
Been riding bikes since I was 6, MTB's since I was 16. I found this very informative and helpful!
I enjoy your videos so much!
I'm glad I knew all of these things already, but it's still interesting to see how you explain them. Keep up the cool videos!
Sometime Iâm watching these and completely forget this is been peak express itâs so good
Hey thanks, I've been riding bikes without the rear wheel support since I was like 5 years old, got my first mountain bike now with 17, I've been wanting to drive this thing out in a real trail.
The apps are a really good recommendation, I can finally see where the trails are around my location.
As a trail builder and maintainer - thanks for educating on trail etiquette!
Great info for newbies. đ
Seth I love the vids you inspired me to ride now Iâm doing big jumps keep the good work up
Another excellent video!!!
Been riding since summer of 2020. Still good to be reminded on that basics
It's wild how much this Chanel has changed so much since I started watching 4 years ago
glad to know this vid! it's really useful!
This is very helpful man . I watch these in quarantine . I don't mountain bike but its entertaining
Nice to see drama leading the trail miss you buddy
Great video with good info.
Really cool you covered etiquette, something I feel doesnât get talked about enough for beginners
Hey man, just want to say thanks so much for this!
Awesome video I remember watching these types of videos when you lived in Florida!!