HOW TO INSTALL DUST COLLECTION IN A WOODWORKING SHOP
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In this video, I'm installing semi-permanent dust collection pipes for my new dust collector. It is a big upgrade and I walk you though everything about piping dust collection into a shop.
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Nice! One day I will collect dust. For now, the floor does it 😂
My floor is well practiced over the years. Ha ha
That magnet instead of stud finder trick was pretty awesome, and I love those thumbscrew clamps too
I use the magnet all the time since learning about that trick!
What a project! I've been meaning to do the same thing in my garage. Thanks for sharing your tips
Glad it helped! It is a large undertaking, but I think it’ll be worth it. And I’m so glad to have piped up and out of the way.
Thanks for the video. Exactly what I was looking for!
Glad you found it helpful!
Nice set up Bruce! IT's so nice to have a dedicated system set up.
Thank you! I’ve been using it some and loving it!
When the big section came out of the fitting, we both yelled for Rebecca. 😂
Ha ha. I would have too, but I think it was when she wasn’t here. It was pretty scary because that was crazy heavy
Awesome video Bruce!! I’ve been extremely busy for the past month, but any time you try to tackle a job that big, give me a holler. I’ll make time to come give you a hand.
Really appreciate that!
This makes me want to clean non shop stuff out of my garage. Looks good bruce.
Thanks so much! It has really given me a new perspective about it, seeing it very separated like I have it now.
Ah the collection of dust. So important, yet I still let it fly. One day I’ll get a dust collection system. Great video Bruce!
Thank you very much! This has been very incremental for me. You do what you can with what you've got. I have finally worked up to this point and I'm liking it so far!
Great video and perfect timing I just moved in a shop and about to set up dust collection
Awesome! Hope it helps you! Use some of my links for tape and stuff. It helps a lot!
Awesome setup! A suggestion for sealing the tubes instead of the tape. Drill 2-3 holes for a small set screws then run a small bead of silicone around the edge. When you need to move or replace a section all you have to do is remove the screws and cut the silicone.
Thank you! That’s a great suggestion and I’ll keep it in mind for the future!
Awwwwesome upgrade!
I cannot believe it sometimes when I walk out there and see it! I never thought I would do this
Great work, Bruce! That’s not an easy job by yourself.
It was a pretty big task. Just took it basically one fitting at a time and next thing I knew, it was done!. Thanks, Dan!
Just thought I’d let you know that SDR 35 doesn’t mean sewer and drain. It stands for Standard Dimension Ratio which tells you how thick the wall of the pipe is compared to the diameter.
Yep...learned that today. Thanks for pointing it out!
Really nice dust collection upgrade! I never thought of using a magnet as a stud finder...super smart hack
Come here for knowledge that sucks, leave with some that doesn’t. ;)
Use a good neodymium magnet with some painters tape wrapped around it (to eliminate scuffing)
I usually do that but wasn’t too concerned about out here in my shop this time.
@@BruceAUlrich hey I was replying to Ethan, just so you know, I wasn't picking apart your work 😁
@@Nunya.Bidness Oh, no worries. Didn't take it that way!
Looks great Bruce!
Thanks, Jon! I've been enjoying this setup for sure!
That is a really nice setup. I think it was a well thought out layout. Looks like it will work great and be future proof.
I sure hope so! I don't want to do this again soon. ha ha. Thanks, Jeremy! I really do like the layout, and it's going to help me be even more efficient out there!
SDR 35 pipe and fittings with HVAC foil tape... your shop looks like mine! I have a Grizzly G0944 & Oneida Super DD XL, 6" main to the center of the shop, then y-split to two 4" sub-runs to each main tool location (some 4" and some further y-split to 2.5"). Finals are blast gates and short runs of flex hose. SDR 35 is so much cheaper than schedule 40 that many seem use... and much, much lighter. I also used some 5/16" sheet metal screws to lock each section before taping. Tape seems to work just fine as long as you take the time to make sure it is pressed down properly. I found no need to use caulking. I went with Woodpeckers butterfly blast gates... giving them a try to see how well they work and hopefully don't clog.
Sounds like a great setup!
Very nice that the pipe color was the same as your logo color, you just need to paint all the connectors now. Still looks like a character from Spiderman. Your videos keep improving. Keep doin what your doing.
Yeah, that was a total happy accident...and I'LL TAKE IT! ha ha. Thanks, Stephen!
for the minimal use of flex duct, I use 4" abs pipe (black). you can hammer this into the 6" pvc...the 4 " flex will fit over the ABS fitting nicely.
Hmmm...good to know. I'll keep that in mind as I move forward.
@@BruceAUlrich miss typed - a 4" (id) green PVC drain pipe will accept a 4" ('ish OD) ABS pipe hammered in...not a 6" pvc...then the 4" flex will clamp over the 4" ABS.
looks great Bruce
Thanks so much, Greg! It was hard to wrap my head around at first, but I think I got to a place I'm happy with in the end.
The plumbing is pricey but it makes a HUGE difference!
I’m seeing the value for sure!
Bruce I used 8” thin wall pvc. I don’t know if it’s more cost effective vs what you used. I just wanted to not restrict the dust collector.
Looks good! Man I need dust collection so bad. I'm trying my hardest to move into a different shop within a year or so and then dust collection will be somewhere near the top of the list. To run it now I will have to upgrade power in the shop first and I don't want to put any more money into permanent things where I'm at now.
Thank you! I totally get that. I had 220 run on multiple circuits about 3 years ago and I’m just now using it with this tool. Ha! I guess I future proofed it pretty well.
Holy teal tubes Batman!
Yeah, who knew they made sewer and drain pipes just to match my logo! Ha ha
looks like your going to be making some serious man glitter
Ha ha. Yep! And I plan to collect it all!
Very Cool Bruce!
Thank you, Steve!
dipping the end of your flex hose into pot of hot water will help with getting it over a tight fitting.
That’s a good idea! I’ll have to try that next time.
Pretty cool sir! Thanks for posting.
Thanks, Jeff!
Did you have to pay extra for them to paint all those pipes your color?? Looks awesome Bruce! It's fun seeing you transform that garage into an awesome shop!
Yes, I had someone from Laguna come do a color match. LOL thanks, Drew!
Great minds, Drew
Turned out great. I need to get a bigger collector one day. Look forward to hearing you opinion of the pflux
Thanks! Now that I've got it up and running, I'll be gathering my thoughts. I think I'm going to do a price breakdown on all of this piping next.
Great work!
Thanks so much, Mark! I'm glad to have this done.
Hi, first let me say that I really liked your video. It gave me a lot to think about, it was pretty instructive.
But I have a couple of questions. One is ask about the piping! PVC vs the flexible hoses. Now I know that the ridges of the flexhose affect the pressurized suction.
But let's just say, I have a very small shop "a bedroom turned into a shop, small shop to be exact", and I have a fair amount of flexible hose, and I want to build my dust collection system. It Would be for about 6 tools, or 6 hoses, 4 tools, and 2 loose hoses for hand tools and clean up.
So meaning 6 Blast-Gates.
Now here's the first question. If I would cut the flexible hoses, so they would reach each separate connector, to each Y connector "precisely" fairly tight, no bending of the hoses. They would fit pretty much to the exact length. Could it do as good OR close to as good as the PVC "as a some-what substitute" OR even as tight as possible the ridges would still cause a certain amount of loss of suction?
And 2nd. My Shop-Vac is a 2 1/2" hose 6.5HP. Now, Should I use 2 1/2" PVC piping all around? Or should I use a widener and use 4" pipping? Should I get better suction with the 4" or it would be the exact same with the 2 1/2"?
Please give me your professional opinion! I have 1 shot, so I need to do this right.
Thanks for your time and great video. Thumbs Up!
Hi Bruce, thanks for the video!I I bought 100' of 6" SDR 32.5 and it's wider than the SDR 35. Where can I get fittings for the SDR 32.5? Is there a way to used the SDR 35 fittings with the SDR 32.5 pipe? I bought a lot of thew SDR 35 fittings and I can't seem to find any reasonably priced SDR 32.5 fittings...
Oh man...I am definitely not the authority on pipes and fittings. I really don't know anything about SDR 32.5. I don't believe I've ever come across them. You might consider finding a cheaper alternative and heating up something and kind of forming the fittings if need be.
I had to put screws in all of my vertical connections. I tried just taping them and it will work for some time. It eventually failed. Not sure if you are just using tape, but it looks that way from the video.
Yes, I’m just using tape. Hope it will hold up, but I’ll keep this in mind in case I see some failure.
Well this video didn’t suck... but I hope the dust collection does (see what I did there) 👍
I do...and I like it! ha ha.
Would it have been easier to roll the tubes into the bandsaw blade instead of doing multiple interrupted cuts on the chop saw? Something to consider for the next air line upgrade?
Yeah, maybe so. I thought about that, but I didn’t have a good way to hold the work piece and with my miter saw stand, I didn’t have to hold the 10’ pipe while I made the cut.
Great work. #dustcollectiongoals
Hey, thank you! I'm glad I did it finally!
Where did you purchase the 6" green PVC pipe? I haven't been able to find any at Home Depot or Lowes.
I also have the Laguna C-Flux dust collector. I'm ready to do solid piping to my woodworking machines.
I found it at my local Lowe’s. You might try a plumbing supply also.
Thanks for the video. I just got my 28x40 wood shop done and now I’m laying out my dust collection system. Couple questions , I may have missed it in the video but what HP is your new system? Have you had any problems or anything you would do different now? I have the grizzly 3hp for my old shop and hoping to repurpose it. Thanks for you time! Great video
Hey thanks for watching! My system is a 3HP one. This unit I have is a lemon. They have sent me another one because I know people with it and they've not had any problems with it. I'm going to be swapping it out soon.
Great video! Looking at purchasing a Laguna unit soon. Where and the heck do you get the 6" sewer and drain pipe? I leave in Northern California and google search it and could locate any suppliers.
My local Lowe’s stocks it all. Home Depot did not. But some Lowe’s I went to did not.
Cutting any kind of plastic pipe on a miter saw always scares the excrement out of me. The last time I did, the blade caught onto the pipe causing it to spin so fast it literally blew up into 100s of plastic shards in front of me. I'm sure it was a fluke but I'll let someone else do it from now on.
Yeah, it can be a bit scary
@@BruceAUlrich love your setup! I'm looking into doing something similar.
@@J-D248 Thanks so much! It worked really well and then we moved. ;)
Bruce this turned out great! I never would have thought about using pvc pipes. Is it cheaper than the piping dedicated to vacuum systems
Appreciat it! Yes, PVC like I used is considerably cheaper than the Norfab stuff that I've seen. The 8" PVC jumped up a pretty good bit, which is why I had to reduce it to 6" right out of the machine. I'm hoping this will serve me for a long time to come!
I imagine it will because it is very sturdy.
Hey Bruce, great video. Any updates as to how your system is performing?
I'll be doing a performance and first thoughts video soon. I'm trying to compile it. Thanks for the kind words!
@@BruceAUlrich thanks for the video….can you give me a simple response “yes, would buy the P Flux3 again”, or “no, I would not recommend this dust collector”. Thanks,
@@beerymr Yes, I would buy it again. The one I had first was a lemon. The company made it right.
@@BruceAUlrich thank you for your recommendation and prompt reply.
@@BruceAUlrich does yours separate good even with the 45 and run up to the ceiling? Most others recommend having at least 5’ of straight pipe before any fittings, just curious on your input. I have the same unit but currently using the 4” (3 ports) on the unit and my separation isn’t that great, I’ve been told the flex pipe is causing too much turbulence which is reducing the units ability to separate properly.
Isn't that blue part just s sticker that comes right off? I seem to recall peeling that off a piece of PVC, though I haven't worked with PVC in a while.
Hey Jim, what blue part are you referring to?
Awesome setup, Bruce! I desperately need dust collection in the shop. My single shop-vac isn't cutting it anymore! Space is already pretty tight, so I'm considering a mobile 2-stage. Something like the Grizzly G0860. -Joe
Thanks, Joe! Yeah, I dealt with a single shop vac for a while also. Mobile 2 stage would be a good way to go. I don't know much about the Grizzly one, but just looked it up. Looks like a decent unit. It's a little more, but you might look at the Laguna Cflux 1 also. It's mobile and 2 stage. I know a couple of people who have it and like it.
@@BruceAUlrich thanks, Bruce! I'll take a look at it. Maybe it will have a little more HP.
Why didn’t you use some short screws to hold everything together and then tape over that? Great job. It’s easier with a helper than by yourself. Oh btw it’s much easier to take it apart then to put it up. Haha
I’m sure that’s true! Ha ha. I didn’t really want to bother with screws
@@BruceAUlrich fair enough. Great video as always.
Static electricity
I have the same dust collector and have been looking at hard piping it, but the logical place for me is against the wall like you have it. How are you dealing with cleaning the filter canister? Looks like you can only get to it from one side?
I have the clean out pipe for the filter canister facing away from the wall so I can easily get to it. And that side of the housing swings open fully so I can unbuckle the whole filter assembly if need be.
How loud is that P-flux? I have an Oneida mini-gorilla that has great suction but it's aggressively loud, so I'm looking for something else if possible...
You definitely knows it’s on when you’re in the room. You almost feel it as much as hear it. Not sure if that makes sense. They say it is something like 77Db which is pretty quiet for a 3HP machine.
@@BruceAUlrich Gotcha, that's not bad. My mini-gorilla is probably 80db and seems a bit higher pitched compared to your P-flux in the video. It's also only a 1.5hp motor I believe. HEPA is definitely the way to go. I'll prob get one next time Laguna has their 10% off sale
They’ve got the sale running right now, I believe. Might even be 15%. You’re right, it’s not high pitched like a shop vac. Very low.
Have you done anything for static electricity ??? Was watching a video by John Mcgrath where he basically debunked the theory of static, and he is a licensed electrician. Just wondering your thoughts.
No, I have not grounded this system. From everything I've seen, I don't need to.
@@BruceAUlrich I agree 100%
Instead of that ugly foil tape you should use Silicon Tape that seals tight but can be removed without leaving any residue. If using clear or white silicon tape it practically disappears.
Yep...that would have worked also!
ever heard of PVC cement
Yep! Sure have! As I mentioned in the video, I didn’t want to make permanent connections with the pipe & fittings.
Do not do this. It is a fire hazard using PVC and with no grounding either.
There is a lot of debate out there about this. I’m not convinced of it from what I’ve read and seen.
@@BruceAUlrich I can tell you firmly from personal experience it is a bad idea. The biggest shock I've ever experienced came from a bad dust collection system.