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Interesting 🤔how's there's no replies so far, lol
Hey Joma, did you quit your job and are only focusing on youtube and Jomaclass or are you able to do it all at the same time? How do you manage your time for all?
"Asia man and white guy man interviewed at google vs everyone else"
could have been an alternative title....
Nice stack trace :)
after this skit i think i have interview fright
And then you get the job, enter the company and find how inefficient everything is yet they keep pushing for it.
100% this, it’s ridiculous 😂
This is what I don’t understand at all. Can anyone explain the madness?
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh not much to understand, since there are way too much candidates they can afford to go for the "best one" AKA the one who keeps solving this useless ass challenges until memorize all solutions
@@xmangle5382 What I mean was, how do things get done at the workplace? How does the company deliver to the client, if everything is inefficient? If the way they choose you is flawed, how are you supposed to fulfill your responsibilities?
I want to like, but don't want to spoil chad number
All fun and games till the interviewer asks you to repeat the sentence but the words are alphabetically ordered using quick sort
Just leave the interview. Don't even entertain such nonsense.
@@aleph0540 i will ask the interviewer to do it before i leave the place and before me, almost i gonna have a good time with his/her priceless face wanting me get out of there XD
@@omarjimenezromero3463 Ask him for an example using the instruction statement
Pfft, amateur hour. At Google they ask you to select letters from the sentence using the Fibonacci sequence, put those into 5-letter groups, sort the groups together, while also sorting each group individually, in reverse, and then give the Huffman coding of the result. It's not that bad though, because at least they give you a very generous 55 seconds for that.
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LOL This is so true. Coding interviews are never about finding the best complete coder, but about finding the best sociopath they can exploit.
Type shit and things of that nature
I agree. That's why i don't want to be a "traditional" programmer: you never leave the computer, overwork and get grossly exploited. I would rather work with PLC's and be much better off.
Jimmy, I told you to stop bringing stray scam bots home with you. I don't care how cute their to-good-to-be-true deals are. You take them back to where you found them right this instant.
What did you to bring in so many bots?
They’re a joke
How is the sociopath going to be exploited while sociopathy is about exploiting others?
Been a dev for the last 20+ years, and I can't put into words how perfect this was, well done!
I honestly don’t get it. Do they actually interview like that?
@@SS-yj2leit typically goes like this: they ask a coding/programming question and after you answer (correctly), they follow up with if you can be more efficient /optimal, etc. with your solution.
What if you didn't use words. Not a single word. Could you explain it then? xD
Thats all cool and stuff, but
can you list your 20+ years and search for the most efficient code that you have written and tell me the first quarter of the respective months code.
@@SS-yj2le In coding interviews from what I have seen (Im a programmer but not in a programming job) they like to make sure you know about code optimization, or complexity. They just do this to make sure you know your way around data, hence the reverse question, and 5 lines question. They will (For the big SV companies) drill you on data manipulation and how efficient you do it. The 5 lines thing is interesting because in depth 5 lines can still be inefficient, how you write a loop or function for whatever has to be specific to be the most optimal
im glad i took 4 years of computer science to understand these jokes lmao
what does he mean by asking him to tell the story in reverse?
@asdfghjkl;' Do not forget the popular "How do you reverse a linked list?"
@@enes8574 tbh I would laugh if i actually got that😂
Imagine thinking you're smart because you understand a comedy video
its take 4 year? can you optimize it?
It's pure insanity. I went to an interview where I knew I essentially already had a spot if I wanted. I was nervous as hell. I think I answered all their questions well, the interview had become pretty laid back, we were chatting and laughing. And then they made me get on a laptop and code with a projector with a room full of devs judging and critiquing my every keystroke. I felt like I fell apart, and I still think I did, but like an hour later they called me with a big offer. Can we not find a better way, people? Can we stop just torturing each other.
The amount of times that I, a professional software engineer, have to Google the most basic things because my brain is farting is astounding.
Most people are not 10x engineers constantly firing on all cylinders
While true that it's traumatic, i have seen people get jobs in tech as developers that i feel physical pain watching them work. No names named, but someone i was training in knew 0% of the keyboard shortcuts like copy and paste and was finger pecking the keyboard doing maybe 10 words a minute. They would copy something over (right click copy, right click paste) rather than type things in, and was missing the fundamental knowledge of the code to be able to search any questions they had.
If the coding interview came across as a "see how you handle a computer and id you can look things up" that's fine and in fact probably good
@@catelynh1020 Yeahh I would rather test my applicants on how they would google things, and see whether they can be an independent problem solver, instead of testing some bullshit knowledge that won't be useful during the actual work anyways
I think I would never be able to do that. Being judged in every word, every change of tab, I would forget how to write my own name. It seems a little too much to ask applicants to do this kind of pressure test, and I see a lot of positions that have tests in pairs with the interviewer(s)
icomur825 thanks for your story
I'll keep this in mind and totally zen the effing out when its my turn
I had an interview recently where I was asked a theory question, I answered the best I could but the interviewer was not happy so I said "how would you explain it?", he went "ee....I....e....you got me there", then the feedback was that my theory knowledge is not strong enough for the position, tech interviews are such a bullshit, if you had to interview them out of nowhere they wouldn't pass their own interviews
Lol these interviews always came off as goofy.
The last person I would want to hire would be some dude grinding leetcode all day.
lived a similar experience but while I was at high school. the f*cking teacher couldn't solve his own test.
in my sincere opinion, if you can't answer your question, you shouldn't be asking that question.
Unlike how I got my job, a one hour coding exercise (some silly "problem" where the important part is not solving the problem, but showing that you understand coding and algorithms).
With the person checking the code actually having extensive programming experience themselves.
@@honkhonk8009dude y r u attacking me
You don't want to work for psychopaths, anyway.
In one interview, the woman left a book on the floor in her office where I had to get to my chair. It was a test to see if I'd pick it up. I asked her if she wanted it there, and she said yes. (test passed)
In another interview (made it to 2nd interview), on the elevator ride up with the scheduler, she told me I was an hour late. I apologized but also said I didn't think so...and showed her my calendar, which I'd notated and repeated to the interviewer at the end of the 1st interview. She repeated that I was an hour late. At this point I realized that I didn't want to work for them, testing me on how I would be a yes-employee or an annoying individual thinker.
Either she thought herself clever with that book test or more likely she dropped it and didn't want you to think she'd do something so stupid as that.
@@maythesciencebewithyou Or it's actually where she keeps that book - on the floor in this exact spot
@@anatolydyatlov963 could be a feng shui thing
@@maythesciencebewithyou Yeah, totally!
Lmao what the fuck
Can we just take a minute of Respect for this man senario, filming and editing
And I'd add, his play for both roles is at least outstanding
and acting
*Scenario
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Marvel should hire him
My current engineering job actually looked at my resume. They mostly talked to me about Dark Souls and checked me out to see if I wasn’t an asshole or weird.
Dark souls 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
incredibly based. my last interview, i walked around San Fransisco with the CEO, got some grilled cheese while talking about research papers. when we got back to the office, he asked me when I could start. I absolutely can't stand leetcode interviews.
Shit I never thought of putting stuff like that on my resumé
@@orangeeeeeee always put something fun on your resume, to make yourself more human and break up the monotony of "oh look another person who can code in C++, great."
@@pcguy619 Thanks, I will try that
When I'm in these tough parts, I often just ask straight up now, "what do you mean by that", "what exactly are you looking for", "what is the outcome you're looking for". Mainly because I'm tired of interviews trying to purposely make things hard without context. It is fucking annoying.
And then I say, "I don't know how". Interviewers get real annoyed about it after answering my questions.
If there is something confusing to you about the question, your best bet is to ask questions about the question. It is very common for an interviewee to end up wasting time going in the wrong direction, and putting more pressure on themselves with the effort of re-orienting.
Yes, sometimes an interviewer will get annoyed at you for failing to read his or her mind and going straight to the "correct and clever" answer they want, but you were likely doomed anyway and those are people that would be less enjoyable to work with in the long run.
I literally was dropped from a job interview yesterday for not explaining my process enough. This hits close to home.
Lucky.
Don't put up with that shit.
You have to go into detail of which neuron in your brain fires at which moment.
I was once denied from a junior position because I couldn't tell what my favourite new feature of the then-latest PHP version was.
I was hired one year later at a mid-level position... by the same company.
Many coding job interviews are ran just off the latest list of what Google or Facebook claim they do, without really realizing why Google and Facebook do it that way. And definitely without paying Google kind of salaries or working on Google-level projects.
Actually out of curiosity why do FB and Google do interviews this way?
@@florianb3935 Because they are after candidates with specialized knowledge, specialization most companies don't require.
@@florianb3935 Main reason is that they have a lot of candidates from whole world and even if they put arbitrary inefficient filters in recruitment, they would get talents anyway.
May as well just work at Google then tbh lol
And here I thought they all do this so you can practice for your Google interview.
Thank you for making me laugh while triggering my interview PTSD simultaneously
It is actually a gift to not have to considering working for an employer like that anymore. Smile and walk away. It's better to work for those who appreciate you and treat you well.
Joma, your best videos are the ones, where there's only you and your characters. You are an amazing actor, story- and videomaker. Every such video is like a breath of fresh air. You're amazing man, keep doing what you're doing.
Now tell me again but in reverse killed me, 😂 Joma you’re hilarious. Thank you for making my day better.
how is it hilarious? Guess just for cyber guys only?
@@tamaica7770 it's a common trope in interviews to have to do things like reverse a linked list for example
@@mythicaldata6297 thank you for explaining, it was the exact statement I was going to reply with
Haha, programming interviews are ALWAYS as stressful as this.
Please also create a clip that asks the interviewee to do things that she/he will never ever supposed to do as a day-to-day task.
As a doctor I experienced questions more like "could you begin your job with us sooner?"
One time I just went to the head of department asking for an interview without any appointment. I had to wait for one hour, but then I got the job.
I always get very annoyed when hearing about how other people are getting bad treatment when looking for jobs. Really sad.
A lot of trades jobs are like that too. Once they have an idea of the skill sets you have from your resume it's usually a "when can you start" kind of conversation.
@@7F0X7 I am not exactly sure what you are talking about but from your mentioning of Nürnberg I am pretty sure EVERYTHING you say or think is nonsense. So no need to elaborate.
@@hessidave That won't save you when you face the gallows.
@@hessidave Could also be a troll. But they're nearly indistinguishable from complete idiots nowadays.
@@7F0X7 ok and clearly you’re not saving yourself next time you get COVID so maybe take some notes yourself
Daam man you optimized a 5-6 interview journey to 1:59 minutes HATS off to you!!!!!
I'd rather call it several years of not have offer experience.
Now do it in a single frame
@@magic8ball237 E
Joma never fails to make me roll on the floor laughing
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There's a bot pretending to be you in the comments section, they're replying to everyone
No bro how can I miss it! 😏
dude, I'll be taking my phone and write in a note, in one word "success", and show it to him
Joma is an OG when it comes to filming and portraying scenarios of either 1:1 meet or how an interview looks like. Great work
What i find hilarious of this "efficiency" coding question is that most companies have an application that runs super slow and only "fix" that by throwing more resources at it. Not even looking to really optimize the code, which is the main thing of this kind of questions.
legit though
Coding interview gave me a total panic attack... And it was take home
😂 imagine if it was in person
@@mohammedahmed1109 imagine if it was a person
Oh man can I relate to this so much. Look at the task, tried to read documentation, couldn't figure out shit.... Thankfully it was due in 3 days
@@1996adis personally, I’m too stupid to mine documentation for anything usable, generally speaking. I generally need “hello world “ and then a dissection on that to then understand a bloody thing in the docs.
All coding portions should be take home. It's miserable to do that in an interview.
Your videos are fucking insane. I've watched all the ones with like movie grade quality and its just so entertaining and I love to see all of your new content! Keep it up!
lmao...most of the big tech companies conduct this interview process like this and most of them layoff large amount of their empoloyees this year. it's so absurd.
It's almost as the filter wasn't effective
I don't know about other companies, but the one I'm at (a very well-known Fortune 500 company), the layoffs are the result of some extraordinarily bad decisions by the top brass over the years. Things like trying to turn traditionally fully-owned products into a service with recurring fees, something that has made its former customers actively hostile and earned the company several lawsuits. Or acquiring more debt than assets. The engineering filter is the least of its problems.
As a cybersecurity student, I can confirm this is exactly how these interviews go
Then things must've really changed. I've been working in the cyber security industry for over a decade, and this is not at all how my interviews went.
@@bin4ry_d3struct0r I trust you more than a student lmao
@@28469 you should not trust anyone here, these are all anonymous profiles and you can not check the truth of the statements. YOU HAVE FAILED THE INTERVIEW! xD
@@28469 actually they're both correct, interviews were pretty different, especially in IT sec... This is more some sort of dev interview, and it depends on how "googlish" the company is (I mean, usually "google wannabe" startups act like that during interviews)
@@dariocoletto8447 if i were to hire a developer i only going to seek that he/she can do at least what i can do, or less but without giving him/her client responsibilities, i do not why people want to hire someone who can count until 15 when they stuck at 5 and the work need someone who can do only at 3 only XD
This legit feels like it could come from a series about a guy trying to get into tech lol. This is seriously well done.
This is a great video and a middle finger to current state of interview process. A brilliant satire
that one time they started asking me to explain my SQL queries verbally in an interview lmao
bro one time they gave me 5 sql query tasks, pasted the queries for the tablеs that I was supposed to work with.
Gave the worst task description I've ever seen and told me "You have 30 minutes to do these tasks" do as much as you can. I couldn't visually see how the tables looked like, I couldn't properly understand the task due to its logic structure and the lack of time made it even worse. Sometimes their expectations are absurd. I'm someone that adapts quickly but I'm not a machine ffs. I doubt even they could do their task if they started all over
Spell it in reverse
WAY TOO GOOD , WE NEED A SERIE OF THIS
Nah
The last job interview I went to presented me with the most convoluted and sub-optimal code example, I just rewrote the entire thing from scratch...
The issue being, my task was to find a small bug that their "senior dev" intentionally left inside the example. He clearly didn't expect someone to ridicule his overly complicated solution to a simple problem, by plain out rewriting it with better performing and easier readable/understandable alternative...
@@samueloh4528 Well, I didn't proceed to the next round... for another reason...
There was a senior dev and HR person in the room during my interview. The senior that was interviewing me was kinda demeaning, to the point where he was deliberately trying to ask questions most people wouldn't be able to answer. The more of those questions I answered correctly, the more annoyed he became.
I still wanted the job, yet didn't want to share an office building with this unpleasant senior person. I asked if they allowed hybrid remote work a couple days a week, to which the senior loudly replied: _"some people can't work from home, nobody works from home. The same laws apply to everyone here!"_ ...
By this point I knew that I didn't want this job anymore. The HR officer asked at the end of my interview how much income I expect, to which I replied: _"What about the equivalent humble income of the CEO, in order to comply with the communistic tendencies of this company where everyone is treated equal."_
They threw me out, I later learned that the senior dev was the CEO. Still, seeing that dude's head turn as red as a tomato from anger, 100% worth it!
Already got a contract proposal at another company, thus no worries...
@@samueloh4528 Got my contract proposal signed today, will start at another company by the end of this month.
The senior dev I had a chat with today seemed like a very productive and efficient working person, yet showed an incredibly calm personality towards others. I've more respect towards people that want to work smart, calm and efficient, rather than the more standardized dumb way of inefficient working in order to look busy towards management.
In my experience, the more that management thinks the company is people centric and equal towards everyone, the further and faster you should run away of set place. These places are often the opposite of what they claim to be and the worst locations to work at. I knew you where joking, but wanted to get my frustration out :-).
@@timmy7201lmfao you did good man
@Jimmy I am starting out in coding. I am a noob. How do I get good in programming and thinking in general to pass interviews? Please help
@@kalirocketdev that's a pretty vague question, you shouldn't be expecting anyone to just quickly explain those complex issues to you at once, the only way to get good at anything is to do it a lot but if you're struggling you need to be asking the right questions if you want any useful advice
Just make the interviewer prove that it's possible. Interviews should never be that one-sided.
I know nothing abt programming but Jomas videos always make me feel relatable some how lol))
when you learn more about coding from coding related skits than from tutorials
When I was interviewing to become a data analyst it was pretty standard up until the 2nd interview. First interview was behavioral, second one was basically just going through my resume asking about my experience. When we finished going through my resume, the interviewer got out a pen and paper and drew 5 underscores. He told me to write todays date in 5 characters. I tried to use numbers at first but he said that it’s just a random string of numbers and to try again. I was really panicking at this point and just decided to write the first thing that came to mind, which was “today”. He ended up being very impressed and I was given the job on the spot after that 😂
Because i think that creativity is a keypard of beeing a tech dev. U need of course Logic too for that Job (your answer btw is very Logic with a lot of creativity so you nailed it hahaah) im it student in my 3rd year here in germany
Keypart*
I love how you can see instructions on how to tie a tie in the background.
Holy shit this is the funniest video you've made by far. Great job! 😂
Man! I felt more stressed watching this than when being in a real interview 🥺
This is hilarious !
And people in the comments too! Every comment is very positive, filled with joy, this makes my heart warm, that people enjoy quality content and good humor.
Well done Joma, you got great people together.
Cracked me up, thanks for making this amazing video
The wait for Joma's videos is always worth it😅, amazing stuff😊
Hey Joma.... You have seriously improved sooooo much in these past years I have been watching content for quite some time now and definitely never felt a single scene wrongly directed or edited.. Or anything.. Great work.
I'm learning to code and haven't even interviewed yet and STILL found this to be hilarious 😂 great job (even though you didn't get the job)
wow. I'm really impressed with the production quality. This was so well done, it was hard to laugh. Great job.
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Respect man, you nailed the coding interview memes🤣🤣
The confusion after is real af.
Glad I’m not the only to feel like they were mind f***ed after one of these interviews 😂
You deserve more than you get Joma, the effort you put in these videos from acting to filming to editing, so inspiring to me and people like me. I'm watching so many things while watching your videos and laugh so hard while at it.
This was actually one of the best video that describes software engineer interviews
The how to tie a tie diagram in the background killed me 😂
Joma is on another level...guy takes my depression away
He didn't even make it to the second round. what a loser...jk.
Appreciated to you brother for your dedication...
A CS Filiming Genius. Keep up the good work.
I like how your programming humor videos are actually funny instead of making me think "I get it, but it's not that funny" like most programming humor.
I'm not in the IT sector or industry, but this man is hilarious. Please keep coming up with videos like this. It kind of reminds me of the Matrix scene where Agent Smith first interviews Neo.
Watching this while I am supposed to be preparing for my technical coding test haha hilarious video!
Just stumbled on this guy! So hilarious. I'm subscribing!
"Great! You're hired!...in reverse! That means you didn't get the job!"
Google was (still is?) infamous for having the most ridiculous, sociopathic, arbitrary, grueling interview process. Supposedly around 9 rounds of interviewing, for positions far below the C-suit level that would warrant that.
!hired
@@stevenedwards8353 hired, but on fire?
Sorry, I'm a Dwarf Fortress player
*don't beat me up for this joke pls*
@@alexeyeliseev6322 ima come beat you up, send me location
doesn't google pays a 200k yearly salary for entry-level positions tho? This kind of recruiting process would be expected then
Entry level? Like right out of school? Good lord no.
If you mean "starting" salary, then Google pay grades don't reach that until their equivalent of senior manager level.
And this interview process has nothing to do with actually finding the most competent worker. It's flexing by sociopaths trying to weed out anyone who won't buy into their tech cult.
😂great content Joma. Respect ✊🏾
Love the "How to Tie the Simple Knot (Oriental Knot)" image in the background!
Seriously accurate, the part I hate the most (by far) about being a software engineer is interviewing for a new job.
Video after video, expectation increases and JOMA never disappoints us :)
This...this is the content I come to this channel for. More like this please.
i have to conduct my first interview tomorrow. thanks for the guide, it's super-helpful!
how did it go
Just noticed how much better your acting has gotten. Big props.
Finally a new video about programming!!! I was tired of your "life-style" videos. Awesome new video!
Will be interviewing 3 people next week, I refuse to do this to people. Will ask them basic questions and play at their strengths instead depending on their answers and try to figure out if they will be useful to our team. Random ass problems like this don't tell you shit anyways ... I never understood why companies do this
These are normal interviews for me. I've also been asked stupid nonsense questions plenty of times.
Hi! Joma Tech I have been waiting for your video. I know you are busy and doing hard work best of luck for your future. I also waiting for your videos & your previous videos was awesome thanks for sharing 👍👍
As someone going through this right now so glad I found this.
Holy shit I'm scared for coding interviews
I just did my first software engineer interview, and I was scared shitless. It ended up being a lot of behavioural! Make sure you have projects to reference ahead of time that relate to the job. I also got the job!
@@CrackaSource Well Done! Wishing you well for your job!
@@CrackaSource Congratualtions :D
So good! I was waiting for the interviewer to end with "It was OK meeting you"
Heh! My tech job interviews have been alarmingly easy in contrast. The companies asked the "FizzBuzz" question, and basic theory questions like "what's the difference between a class and an object", and barely got into efficiency. Except for one company that wanted to know some tricky multithreading stuff I'd never used outside of a class. The experience suggests that people apply who've got no knowledge at all.
This was actually a classic Joma youtube very original and very funny... Joma is backkkkk...
How can you be an interviewer in tech without the Patagonia vest. Point on Joma ! Last year I had around 8-9 company interviews (all big ones) and out of that I had 3 interviews where atleast one of the interviewer had Patagonia
Always funny and very entertaining too 😂 five stars for you 👏👏👏
so real that it gives me goosebumps...
I love the image in the background teaching him how to tie a tie
Yup that’s exactly how coding interviews go 😅
Can you tell me how legit *real* interviews go if you ever did one? Pls
@@alamanashaikh3527 actually friendly without the underlying trying to trick you the whole way
@@thedigitalceo thank you
@@alamanashaikh3527 interviewers are actually friendly but very often give ridiculous tasks and require even more ridiculous explanations. Sometimes even they themselves can't do what they required the new candidate to do
This guy never misses LMAO.
Very funny concept, I wish there will be sequels
Oh man! I completely get this even though I've never had a coding interview! :D I do write and maintain code for a living though.
Wow you must be so smart to be able to do those interviews. Coders truly are the master race
…. Wait WHAT?
not... CEOs are.
You forgot the part where the company that turned you down now expands their clientele to asia and doubles their revenue in 6 months
Love the tie knot instruction on the screen
This is brilliant, joma
Not realistic, applicant wasn't asked 5 days worth of unpaid work to develop a solution to a business prolem
Fuck that shit. I did that twice. It sucks balls. If you don't guess the way they do things and do it like they want it, you get declined
Upon hearing “do you think you can do better” I started having flashbacks and secondhand anxiety
"I am not sure how this correlates to my day-to-day job." Brilliant.
I really like this video more than the other content you upload 😂❤
Jokes aside, this really looks like my two programming interviews that i had, so accurate
1:31 New efficient language invented!
"I really appreciAte it". Oh man that smile and the way he said it!
it's like when you finished a hard DP coding question and you have couple minutes left, then asked you to do both ways either topdown or bottomup solution
You forgot the bit where 4 different people start grilling you on the approach you took and then start asking random compiler specific questions.
I remember being knocked back in an interview because there is a specific optimisation in a nested Java for loop to avoid the reallocation of memory. The guy talked to me as if I was an idiot even though I explained the big O complexity was not altered and my code was more readable.
If they need optimisation maybe they should not use Java to begin with
in the end of the day, they don't like smart people.
@@nox5282 hmmm, you're right, python it is, you're hired
Love these
Great video bro. Love it
the tie is a great detail :D