I was driving in eco mode for hours and saved about 10 miles, I then floored it down a slip road and lost about the same 10 miles in fuel range in 1 push !
For 3 years now I've been thinking that I'm the only one obsessed with driving efficiently, then you made this video. I'm so excited to find out that there's a whole community of efficient drivers out there!🙆♂️🙆♂️🔥
Already knew a lot of what ya man said Joe about efficiency which is why I regularly see 30 to 40 mpg in comfort mode and even more in Eco mode on my daily trip to work and back in my M140i with mixed driving 😁😉👍
Interesting video, many people will say "you're in the wrong car if you're worried about MPG" I think it's important to remember just because you have a quick car, it doesn't automatically mean you need to waste fuel when you don't need it! I managed 43mpg on a 40 or so mile run once in my N54 335i
The comments here complaining how a sports car owner shouldn’t have to care about mpg do my head in. People really find any possible excuse to justify why they can’t reach their goals
Very cool that you’ve put a spotlight on fuel economy Joe. People often say ‘you don’t buy a performance car for economy’ but most of us don’t have limitless money and even if we did there are better uses for it than wasting it with inefficient driving. As someone that moved from a 230i (perfect blend of economy and performance) to an M240i (worth the knock to economy for the sound alone, but still massively efficient) I do geek out on this stuff. Managed to average 46mpg in my manual car on a trip to wales so I’m good at not using fuel but it’s always good to spread the knowledge around!
I love your M2 and appreciate the content but you must have known that having Halfords sponsoring you to service your car with them would 'light up' the comments section!! But it's your car, so your choice
@@ARDEN440i I'm not so sure that a one off pay cheque will outweigh the loss of viewers faith in the sincerity of the content offered. And that's not a jibe at Joe but just my view
@@AdamRosenberg90 Absolutely! I'd have thought 95% of the viewers would already know that being slow and steady on the throttle will save fuel and that using Halfords for a service would also reduce the future value of the vehicle vs a proper dealer service.
Unless I missed it was this video sponsored by Halfords by any chance? Just looked at the Fuel Pack and it’s only available as a service add on. Cheapest oil service is £130 + the £30 fuel pack 😮. You’ve got to be very fuel efficient to get that money back in savings.
Interesting video @joeachilles . Reality is even if you drive a performance car you will have regular drives to do. I have an M340i, it averages around 40 to a gallon and on a motorway trip it's mid 40s. It makes it a superb all rounder. If I want fun I can but combined with adaptive suspension it is just about the best daily you could imagine.
I find this topic extremely fascinating. I have a hot hatch and I'm always looking to beat my previous MPG PB and as a consequence driving like a grandma most of the time. Would have been nice to speak about the vehicle eco mode and whether it improves efficiency in a noticeable way. Possibly even different octane fuel.
Another interesting video Joe. If you watch Ashley Neal's videos, he talks about 'best flow' quite a bit. He is coming from the angle of good driving behavior, but it must also have a beneficial effect on fuel consumption. I would be curious to know what effect the Halfords Efficiency Pack would have on a manufacturer's/extended warranty as it is not part of the recommended service regime. P.S. My M2 Comp DCT returns about 5 mpg less that my previous 440i GC and do I care? In a word, NO - far more Smiles Per Gallon!😁
Their ‘Fuel efficiency pack’ is just an oil flush before an oil change and a fuel treatment added, the rest is just common sense surely ?! In Joe’s defence the channel is his livelihood but I’m not entirely sure given the choice Halfords would of been his 1st option for anything car maintenance related ! Not sure this is right the channel Joe 🤔
Yes it all makes a lot it of sense and all things I do in my diesel Astra. I suspect that good driving behaviour has a bigger impact on fuel economy than a Halfords economy pack and it would have been interesting to see a proper comparison. But of most interest, I want to see you do a proper economy run in the M2 now you've learnt how to drive more efficiently and show us the result
@@JoeAchilles1 Is it wrong to show concern for you and your channel? I know you have to make a living but this video came across as really forced - you certainly didn't look comfortable and it was like watching an infomercial. You're better than this and you know you are!
Joe I average over 80mpg on a run and nearly 65-70mpg in built up areas, I drive a Skoda estate 1.4 diesel auto gear box. Have I beaten Kevin’s record?
fuel efficiency should not be a priority over your engine's health in the long run. Imho being in a lower gear in the city will result in a bit more consumption but it will save the headache of a knocking engine and carbon buildup, when the rich mixture the ecu is putting in the cylinders in a higher gear. As a safety instructor said it on a debrief, 20 is 2nd, 30 is 3rd. If you are on a motorway without much traffic or nothing to do, go ahead and try hypermiling, but in the city, traffic, just try to use less brakes (so lower gear and engine brake is also a better choice)
I drive a 218i coupe automatic with an fuel consumption average of 34 MPG / 8.3L 100km on 19 inch P-zero's. This guy has a fair point when it comes to tyres. During winter I drive 17 inch Eco all-season tyres. I easily get 44 MPG.
God that M2 is a stunner. Great video as usual Joe! Thanks. What do Halfords do exactly? What's the difference to just using some Redex or whatever it's called?
I suspect that those who are berating you for a) going to Halfords or b) wanting to save petrol in a sports car are driving fiat puntos and angry they have to live vicariously through you. How is saving fuel a bad thing in any circumstance? Use your heads
Good stuff, always a pleasure watching your videos, am in 6 gear in 30Mph zone in my M2C, I recognise that early, also my rear tyres that came on the car last about 32k miles and the front 38k, the car needed Wheel alignment so BMW said I need to change the front tyres.
Bmw’s are pretty efficient. My 2.0 petrol G20 fuel consumption has been about 6.5 L/100km which is 45 mpg (UK) if i’m not mistaken. That’s about the same I had on a ’16 Fiesta with the 1 litre 3-pot ecoboost with 6sp auto…Bmw is clearly doing something right, the engine/transmission combo seems to work very efficiently. 👍
The fiestas with the auto transmissions are a lot less efficient than the manuals for some reason. I can easily get under 6L/100km combined in my 2017 1.0 ecoboost fiesta with the 5sp manual. If i drive just 60-80kmh roads i'll get 4.5-5.5l/100km.
@@AmadeusBrown that’s interesting. I thought the double clutch auto is more efficient but that sounds like the manual is way better. I remember the current fiesta 2017-? auto box being a torque converter box again which must be even worse on fuel. I tested it and it felt slow so I kept my car because the double clutch auto was way better than the new one. Then switched to the G20 and was surprised how economical a traditional torque converter auto can still be.
I used to commute late at night with over 20 islands on my route. In that car i could let off the throttle 0.3 miles to each one, naturally slowing down in gear before driving straight over if traffic allowed. If I got each one that's over 6 miles of free motoring. Adds up when you do a journey like that regularly.
Awesome summary. Thanks Mr Joe. Ya I’ve seen that it’s those simple daily driving skills that help save fuel. Generally maintenance is on top of fuel efficiency😮and also since you spoke of tyres wheel alignment also really messes your efficiency and rotating tyres every 10000km or so does help a lot.. I barely even brake lol I simply release throttle and follow safe distance it helps you alot.👌🏽
Have you thought about doing the IAM Roadsmart course and test. In my experience you will save at least 10% on your fuel costs just by driving to the System, and you will still make good progress
@@JoeAchilles1 good point, that 8th gear is very long! Keep up the great work Joe, I've been following since your m135i days, and my m240i was a result of your love for those early m-lites.
In my stock OG M2, the best balance of fuel consumption is achieved at 70 MPH. At 75, I lose 2 miles per gallon. At that speed, the aerodynamics become unfavorable rather quickly.
Good stuff, call this cool 😎 driving where you just hang back from the crowd and stay in your own space. Especially effective when you're in congested traffic 👍
Great video, Joe! The brake light fact is something I especially like - and something Tesla Model S drivers might be most familiar with thanks to the brake lights illuminating on the little Tesla illustration on the instrument cluster as well as the actual lights. Same goes for the indicators. A great nerdy detail.
The efficient driving tips are fine, and yes I also drive in an efficient manner (my average MPG with my M4 over 5k is around 34mpg including a couple of track days and a ring trip). The plug for the product is not - Not manufacturer approved , either by BMW (or any other manufacturer) or any oil company (Shell / Castrol, etc) and using it will invalidate your vehicle warranty. Replace any necessary filters in line with manufacturers guidelines. No additive based product will give any benefit other than to drain your wallet.
Joe, im torn between a current M2 or the new 2023 M2. I'm a novice track go'er. Maybe 3 track days a year. Your thoughts? I've also considered the Porsche 718 market.
Joe Achilles hitting us with the cost-of-living-crisis content we need. I figure if I can keep getting 68mpg in my Superb I'll be able to afford an M2 Comp soon 🥳
Did you know that a modern car cruising at 70mph (on the level and normal wind) is only using 15-20 BHP? A lot depends on aerodynamics, especially frontal area which is why SUVs are a disaster for economy, all things being equal. Huge power is only there for acceleration and if you use it, that’s when your fuel economy goes down.
Any good driver already knows this, there is about 80% of drivers on the road I see every time who race to the lights and slam on, idiots everywhere, including tailgaters.
Get your Halfords Efficiency Pack Here - www.halfords.com/car-repairs/engine-servicing/fuel-service-PRODUCTFUELSERVICE.html
I was driving in eco mode for hours and saved about 10 miles, I then floored it down a slip road and lost about the same 10 miles in fuel range in 1 push !
I came straight to the comments, when I heard Halfords
For 3 years now I've been thinking that I'm the only one obsessed with driving efficiently, then you made this video. I'm so excited to find out that there's a whole community of efficient drivers out there!🙆♂️🙆♂️🔥
Already knew a lot of what ya man said Joe about efficiency which is why I regularly see 30 to 40 mpg in comfort mode and even more in Eco mode on my daily trip to work and back in my M140i with mixed driving 😁😉👍
I got 46mpg on a 26 mile trip to work this morning, can’t believe how efficient those B58’s in the 140 can be on a run!
@@ThatWasUndignified I had 46mpg on mine too. 40 was easy on a motor way run as well. Amazing engine
Interesting video, many people will say "you're in the wrong car if you're worried about MPG"
I think it's important to remember just because you have a quick car, it doesn't automatically mean you need to waste fuel when you don't need it!
I managed 43mpg on a 40 or so mile run once in my N54 335i
The comments here complaining how a sports car owner shouldn’t have to care about mpg do my head in. People really find any possible excuse to justify why they can’t reach their goals
So true, amazing how many people apparently don't care about fuel/running costs....
No problem with trying to get better MPG…most of the comments are complaining about Joe taking it to Halfords 🤣
@@Birmingham_racing for one servicing and repairs etc on almost any v12 is going to cost alot more than on a smaller engine
Very cool that you’ve put a spotlight on fuel economy Joe. People often say ‘you don’t buy a performance car for economy’ but most of us don’t have limitless money and even if we did there are better uses for it than wasting it with inefficient driving. As someone that moved from a 230i (perfect blend of economy and performance) to an M240i (worth the knock to economy for the sound alone, but still massively efficient) I do geek out on this stuff. Managed to average 46mpg in my manual car on a trip to wales so I’m good at not using fuel but it’s always good to spread the knowledge around!
I love your M2 and appreciate the content but you must have known that having Halfords sponsoring you to service your car with them would 'light up' the comments section!! But it's your car, so your choice
Of course he would've known. But a decent pay check from the sponsor out ways some light humour/ negative comments i'd imagine.
@@ARDEN440i I'm not so sure that a one off pay cheque will outweigh the loss of viewers faith in the sincerity of the content offered. And that's not a jibe at Joe but just my view
@@AdamRosenberg90 Absolutely! I'd have thought 95% of the viewers would already know that being slow and steady on the throttle will save fuel and that using Halfords for a service would also reduce the future value of the vehicle vs a proper dealer service.
@@dommo9056 It'll all be forgotten about in the next video. I see this happen countless times
Unless I missed it was this video sponsored by Halfords by any chance? Just looked at the Fuel Pack and it’s only available as a service add on. Cheapest oil service is £130 + the £30 fuel pack 😮. You’ve got to be very fuel efficient to get that money back in savings.
👆🏻scammer. Reported
Not my kind of video but give the guy a break, someone has to pay for that track build
Fair point...
I find that if I use the missus’ car I save loads of fuel for razzing around at the weekend 👍🤣
A different type of video; I learned something. Thank you Joe!
Interesting video @joeachilles . Reality is even if you drive a performance car you will have regular drives to do. I have an M340i, it averages around 40 to a gallon and on a motorway trip it's mid 40s. It makes it a superb all rounder. If I want fun I can but combined with adaptive suspension it is just about the best daily you could imagine.
I find this topic extremely fascinating. I have a hot hatch and I'm always looking to beat my previous MPG PB and as a consequence driving like a grandma most of the time. Would have been nice to speak about the vehicle eco mode and whether it improves efficiency in a noticeable way. Possibly even different octane fuel.
Another interesting video Joe. If you watch Ashley Neal's videos, he talks about 'best flow' quite a bit. He is coming from the angle of good driving behavior, but it must also have a beneficial effect on fuel consumption. I would be curious to know what effect the Halfords Efficiency Pack would have on a manufacturer's/extended warranty as it is not part of the recommended service regime. P.S. My M2 Comp DCT returns about 5 mpg less that my previous 440i GC and do I care? In a word, NO - far more Smiles Per Gallon!😁
Their ‘Fuel efficiency pack’ is just an oil flush before an oil change and a fuel treatment added, the rest is just common sense surely ?! In Joe’s defence the channel is his livelihood but I’m not entirely sure given the choice Halfords would of been his 1st option for anything car maintenance related ! Not sure this is right the channel Joe 🤔
19mpg In my X3M. Need to listen carefully to this video
I sometimes switch up to a higher gear in my X4 use the torque instead so that it doesn't rev up to much and waste more fuel.
Yes it all makes a lot it of sense and all things I do in my diesel Astra. I suspect that good driving behaviour has a bigger impact on fuel economy than a Halfords economy pack and it would have been interesting to see a proper comparison. But of most interest, I want to see you do a proper economy run in the M2 now you've learnt how to drive more efficiently and show us the result
Sad to see Joe heading down this road, didn't think he'd stoop so low. He'll be teaming up with Kwik Fit next.
Hope you cheer up soon.... ❤️
@@JoeAchilles1 Is it wrong to show concern for you and your channel? I know you have to make a living but this video came across as really forced - you certainly didn't look comfortable and it was like watching an infomercial.
You're better than this and you know you are!
@@Blade1310 I agree with you bro, so right
@@Blade1310 halfords is a joke
Literally! Halfords are awful!
Joe I average over 80mpg on a run and nearly 65-70mpg in built up areas, I drive a Skoda estate 1.4 diesel auto gear box. Have I beaten Kevin’s record?
So nice of you Joe to take the guy from Pulp Fiction that lived in the box in the cellar out for a drive in your M2.
fuel efficiency should not be a priority over your engine's health in the long run. Imho being in a lower gear in the city will result in a bit more consumption but it will save the headache of a knocking engine and carbon buildup, when the rich mixture the ecu is putting in the cylinders in a higher gear. As a safety instructor said it on a debrief, 20 is 2nd, 30 is 3rd. If you are on a motorway without much traffic or nothing to do, go ahead and try hypermiling, but in the city, traffic, just try to use less brakes (so lower gear and engine brake is also a better choice)
I drive a 218i coupe automatic with an fuel consumption average of 34 MPG / 8.3L 100km on 19 inch P-zero's.
This guy has a fair point when it comes to tyres. During winter I drive 17 inch Eco all-season tyres. I easily get 44 MPG.
God that M2 is a stunner. Great video as usual Joe! Thanks. What do Halfords do exactly? What's the difference to just using some Redex or whatever it's called?
I suspect that those who are berating you for a) going to Halfords or b) wanting to save petrol in a sports car are driving fiat puntos and angry they have to live vicariously through you. How is saving fuel a bad thing in any circumstance? Use your heads
Good stuff, always a pleasure watching your videos, am in 6 gear in 30Mph zone in my M2C, I recognise that early, also my rear tyres that came on the car last about 32k miles and the front 38k, the car needed Wheel alignment so BMW said I need to change the front tyres.
Bmw’s are pretty efficient. My 2.0 petrol G20 fuel consumption has been about 6.5 L/100km which is 45 mpg (UK) if i’m not mistaken. That’s about the same I had on a ’16 Fiesta with the 1 litre 3-pot ecoboost with 6sp auto…Bmw is clearly doing something right, the engine/transmission combo seems to work very efficiently. 👍
The fiestas with the auto transmissions are a lot less efficient than the manuals for some reason. I can easily get under 6L/100km combined in my 2017 1.0 ecoboost fiesta with the 5sp manual. If i drive just 60-80kmh roads i'll get 4.5-5.5l/100km.
@@AmadeusBrown that’s interesting. I thought the double clutch auto is more efficient but that sounds like the manual is way better. I remember the current fiesta 2017-? auto box being a torque converter box again which must be even worse on fuel. I tested it and it felt slow so I kept my car because the double clutch auto was way better than the new one. Then switched to the G20 and was surprised how economical a traditional torque converter auto can still be.
This video explains all those plebs that refuse to speed up on a slip road 🤦♂️
Interesting video, glad you have stuff like this on your channel. Cost of living crisis affects us all and every penny helps.
I used to commute late at night with over 20 islands on my route. In that car i could let off the throttle 0.3 miles to each one, naturally slowing down in gear before driving straight over if traffic allowed.
If I got each one that's over 6 miles of free motoring. Adds up when you do a journey like that regularly.
I'm in. Thanks Joe. Really need to do something at Halfords. My fuel bill is worrying my partner.
Your M2 is absolutely stunning!
Halfords……I hope the sponsorship money is good
I wouldn't let them change my air freshener.
Awesome summary. Thanks Mr Joe. Ya I’ve seen that it’s those simple daily driving skills that help save fuel. Generally maintenance is on top of fuel efficiency😮and also since you spoke of tyres wheel alignment also really messes your efficiency and rotating tyres every 10000km or so does help a lot..
I barely even brake lol I simply release throttle and follow safe distance it helps you alot.👌🏽
Have you thought about doing the IAM Roadsmart course and test. In my experience you will save at least 10% on your fuel costs just by driving to the System, and you will still make good progress
From the guy who puts his foot hard to the floor at the start of every video. Trying to save fuel.
With a ZF box 70mph is around 1600rpm, my m240 gets 50+ mpg on a motorway run sat at 65. You couldn't pay me to go anywhere near halfiords tho!
The B58 is naturally far more efficient than the S55, that's before you factor in the much longer 8th gear as you say.
@@JoeAchilles1 good point, that 8th gear is very long! Keep up the great work Joe, I've been following since your m135i days, and my m240i was a result of your love for those early m-lites.
Thankgod that's over. Can you get back to ripping the snot out of it now please Joe. 😁
sick motor as always joey!! xx
Cheers guys 👍
In my stock OG M2, the best balance of fuel consumption is achieved at 70 MPH. At 75, I lose 2 miles per gallon. At that speed, the aerodynamics become unfavorable rather quickly.
I set it at 72 if my the journey is more than 200 miles in my M4, like you said once you put it at 75 the fuel efficiency decreases too much
Such a good looking car. ❤️
What was the snake oil stuff they were pouring into your engine at 3.45?
A really good video with some common-sense advice... Well done!!
He’s been paid to make this…
Good stuff, call this cool 😎 driving where you just hang back from the crowd and stay in your own space. Especially effective when you're in congested traffic 👍
Great video, Joe! The brake light fact is something I especially like - and something Tesla Model S drivers might be most familiar with thanks to the brake lights illuminating on the little Tesla illustration on the instrument cluster as well as the actual lights. Same goes for the indicators. A great nerdy detail.
Joe besides mpg how would u compare ur m2comp w new g87 u already drove? Is the latest superior in all aspects?
Can you do a liquid Moly Ceratec video next time you change the oil in one of your cars?
Fuel economy in a M2c the world's gone truely mad.
M135i used eco-pro a few times, car felt broken
The efficient driving tips are fine, and yes I also drive in an efficient manner (my average MPG with my M4 over 5k is around 34mpg including a couple of track days and a ring trip).
The plug for the product is not - Not manufacturer approved , either by BMW (or any other manufacturer) or any oil company (Shell / Castrol, etc) and using it will invalidate your vehicle warranty.
Replace any necessary filters in line with manufacturers guidelines.
No additive based product will give any benefit other than to drain your wallet.
Please nobody go to Halfords auto centres! Joe how much did they pay you for advertising.. must have been enough you couldn't refuse!
That guy is a proper mpg geek bless is Joe Not keeping up his for BMW service history?!
4:24 Exactly what I was thinking.....cough Honda.........😂😂😂
Great Video. I have the same exact car in the US. Can you please advise what brand are the Carbon Fiber tips you installed on the exhaust?
Joe, im torn between a current M2 or the new 2023 M2. I'm a novice track go'er. Maybe 3 track days a year. Your thoughts? I've also considered the Porsche 718 market.
Porsche will always be more serious but if you prefer front motor rwd go bmw both are equally great
The porsche is less powerful (but more than enough for public roads) but its handling will be on another level.
I think good quality modern engine oil has built in detergents. Just change the oil regularly. I’d stay away from putting in engine flush products.
1:24 best part of the video
Really itching to get a 2021 M2 Competition (sapphire black or your grey color). What are your thoughts on picking up an F87 now or going for the G87?
What mpg do you get in the m2c Joe? Motorway and daily commute type journeys?
Let this dude take a trip in your 740ld
He already sold it mate
@@slapdasharbitrary oh. Well it was epic on mileage. :)
@@deleteduser3749 I concur
Usually wirh my 120d up hill I'll do 30mpg so I imagine u do some witch craft to achieve that
for tips on saving fuel like "slow down" "gentel acceleration" this seems like the wrong channel
Which steering wheel spacer are you using Joe? Thanks
I get 8 mpg out of my CS M5 😂dudes sold his soul 🤣🤣
Good for you Jim 🏆
How did you get it round a MOT with it being so modified?
The only issue is: efficient tyres have less grip. It’s Physics
The music in the background. Who is it at the beginning of the video?
Looksa bit bumpy in there , is the suspension firm ?
I bet he's a right laugh down the pub.
3.5 bar in the tyres might make for some interesting content...
50.75 psi might be a touch harsh, lol.
Joe Achilles hitting us with the cost-of-living-crisis content we need. I figure if I can keep getting 68mpg in my Superb I'll be able to afford an M2 Comp soon 🥳
f87 is fucking beautiful
Well I will say I wouldn't want to be stuck behind this guy driving
I live in Swindon and that is THE WORST Halfords for customer service. Wouldn’t trust them to scrap a bangerS
25-26 mpg all around in a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.6L V6.
On a long run, I easily get close to 40mpg from my M2C. Yes, really.
Did you know that a modern car cruising at 70mph (on the level and normal wind) is only using 15-20 BHP? A lot depends on aerodynamics, especially frontal area which is why SUVs are a disaster for economy, all things being equal. Huge power is only there for acceleration and if you use it, that’s when your fuel economy goes down.
Anyone else screenshot at 1:26?
Any good driver already knows this, there is about 80% of drivers on the road I see every time who race to the lights and slam on, idiots everywhere, including tailgaters.
Would I feck let halfrauds in my area touch my M2. They struggle to change window wipers 😂
Not a 100% fit for your channel. Or?
I’d rather just spend more money on fuel to be honest
Just walk. Guys like these kill me on the road everyday.
I know one country with 100ron 90p/liter )
Another ads from Halfords
170???? I wish getting on for 190 near me lucky to be getting 60+mpg
halfords not trusted with vehiclhes
It looks like you have been hacked Joe - see the reply to my comment of 3 days ago.
Try 50 miles per hour and you’ll
Probably see 60 MPG.
Sponsored content. Thanks.
I find my 560bhp M2C better on fuel than my Gr Yaris 😂
Nooooooooooooooo really?!
@@MK-df6li really - maybe because I drive the Yaris like I stole it 😂
@@jdr_m2c887 hahahahaah thank god! I was regretting not buying the m2c instead of my yaris lol
4WD = more energy losses
Does he know you got over 1000 miles out of a tank of fuel in a BMW 7 series…….
Who buys a m2 to save petrol 🤔
Who pretends that £1.70 a litre doesn't matter?
I think my alfa 159 ti diesel has worst mileage than your m2 lol
15:20 Karen Achilles
Useless vid, no idea what mpgs mean, please give us litres per 100km
Turn your brain on and Google it, I'm from the UK and we work in MPG. Good luck with everything 🤣
snake oil