The Forgotten Prequel and Sequel to The Nightmare Before Christmas

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  • čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
  • 1993's The Nightmare Before Christmas has always been one of my favorite films with its beautiful stop-motion animation and stunning imagery. It felt like something that couldn't be added to, but did you know that two games based on the series that resembled Devil May Cry and a Metroidvania were released in 2005? Well, we'll be taking a deep look at those two titles, The Pumpkin King and Oogie's Revenge!
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    0:00 Introduction
    5:18 Jack's Sleigh Ride
    6:53 The Pumpkin King
    18:49 Oogie's Revenge
    34:01 Closing Thoughts
    35:00 Outro
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Komentáře • 553

  • @maldon3659
    @maldon3659 Před 6 měsíci +1156

    Find it funny how these games came out the same year as Kingdom Hearts 2, especially Oogies Revenge which had Oogie Boogie ressurected and turned into a giant monster

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +137

      That is crazy to think about. They really went in on the Nightmare Before Christmas content that year.

    • @maldon3659
      @maldon3659 Před 6 měsíci +27

      ​@KayJulers also, the following year, they re-released the film in 3D

    • @ViscousJelly
      @ViscousJelly Před 6 měsíci +18

      I could have swore the fact resurrected Oogie in KH2 seemed to be incomplete was a reference to this being the “one time too much” resurrection.

    • @Rose-yv5sf
      @Rose-yv5sf Před 6 měsíci +5

      I had and absolutely loved oogies revenge. I played it all the time.

    • @zapadap1328
      @zapadap1328 Před 6 měsíci +12

      I find it so funny that in Kingdom Hearts 1 and Oogie's Revenge, two games with Oogie Boogie as the final boss (or the final boss of the world in KH1's case), he turns into a building in both of them.

  • @Bladebrent
    @Bladebrent Před 6 měsíci +68

    So fun fact: Oogie's revenge and Pumpkin King were so interconnected in their releases that when I got the strategy guide for Oogie's revenge, the last 3rd of the guide is just the strategy guide for the GBA game.
    Also fun fact: In Oogie's Revenge, its possible to make a sleeping potion and before making it to Finklestein's fight to make the fight easier

  • @tymime
    @tymime Před 6 měsíci +780

    Interesting fact: In a blurb about Pumpkin King in an issue of GamePro they say that Oogie used to have an August holiday all about bugs. Apparently he "ruined" it somehow before arriving in Halloween Town.

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +123

      I’m drawing a blank if they mention it in either of the games directly (I think the Pumpkin King does?), but I believe they name drop Bug Day! And also Crawloween lol

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 Před 6 měsíci +33

      Ah that at least explains the rivalry 😅

    • @hotshot104
      @hotshot104 Před 6 měsíci +35

      Might be a reference to an old Disney song called the ugly bug ball which was a specific day, in the song, but that’s just speculation.

    • @soraxstacy1477
      @soraxstacy1477 Před 6 měsíci +47

      Fun fact, There are official prequel and sequel books
      The prequel dwells on the Original Pumpkin King being a dick. In it Oogie Boogie and Jack were the best of friends with them always pranking each other and always competing. With both winning and loosing equally.
      The Sequel dwells on The Pumpkin Queen, which is based on Sally's POV.
      In the Original Nightmare Before Christmas Poem, Jack and Sally have a ton of kids lol

    • @heartless2147
      @heartless2147 Před 6 měsíci +55

      @@KayJulers Crawloween is what Oogie wanted to rename Halloween after he took over, his native holiday was Bug Day before humans stopped celebrating it and it ceased to exist. It makes you wonder if Thanksgiving Town will have the same fate, considering our world is doing a good job at making people abandon Thanksgiving and jump straight to Christmas.

  • @JustaGr8GuyHere
    @JustaGr8GuyHere Před 6 měsíci +475

    I love that part when Jack said “Jackpot” with a final shot to Oogie.

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +72

      One of the best moments for sure. It took me awhile to reach that cutscene since Oogie kept saying, "Now I'm motivated," before killing me with Judgement Cut.

    • @samuelrodriguez5282
      @samuelrodriguez5282 Před 6 měsíci +19

      I like when jack said "it's Jackin' time" and jacket all over the place

    • @SqueekCheeks
      @SqueekCheeks Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@KayJulers😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @Don_LUSH
    @Don_LUSH Před 6 měsíci +135

    My headcanon was always that a "Turkey king" was the ruler of Thanksgiving, a "Leprechaun King" for St Patrick's and Uncle Sam for Independence but your ideas made me laugh more XD

    • @AlexMartinez-gv7hy
      @AlexMartinez-gv7hy Před 6 měsíci +4

      Why not clover king or maybe golden king?

    • @Don_LUSH
      @Don_LUSH Před 6 měsíci +15

      @@AlexMartinez-gv7hy I suppose Jack being the Pumpkin King would give Clover King more sense... thou I still insist on him being a Leprechaun

    • @AlexMartinez-gv7hy
      @AlexMartinez-gv7hy Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@Don_LUSH just thought of this, Stuffing King for Thanksgiving 😆

    • @FightingFoodonsFan
      @FightingFoodonsFan Před 6 měsíci +7

      According to the sequel book the Thanksgiving Town is Colonial era American town with lots of farms of pumpkins, corn, turkey, and presumably other foods of the fall/holiday. But its not hard to imagine its ruler being called the "Turkey Mayor/King", since Jack is the "Pumpkin King".

    • @FightingFoodonsFan
      @FightingFoodonsFan Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@Don_LUSH Well the book says everyone in St Patricks Town is a leprechaun, so that part is true, at least.

  • @gustavoduarte3507
    @gustavoduarte3507 Před 6 měsíci +475

    Being a GBA game, it's really well animated, doesn't seem like your average licensed shovelware at all. This looks great on the console

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +47

      For sure! I think one of the most remarkable, small touches for each of the titles was:
      1. Jack gains a new idle animation (and the best one) whenever Zero is with him in The Pumpkin King.
      2. I learned very recently that some of the area themes change in Oogie's Revenge whenever you pass a certain obstacle.
      I don't think the average shovelware title would go to those efforts, which is why I really respect them.

    • @Riceballer3D
      @Riceballer3D Před 6 měsíci +2

      Right? I found myself rewinding the video multiple times because the movements are so in character and animated so well!

    • @zid9611
      @zid9611 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It not bad. It just hard especially for kids that didn't play that type of game offen.

    • @haileyfandroidfan1164
      @haileyfandroidfan1164 Před 5 měsíci

      True!

  • @Movel0
    @Movel0 Před 6 měsíci +71

    I still think to this day Soul Rubber should've been Jack's default weapon in Kingdom Hearts.

  • @scientistservant
    @scientistservant Před 6 měsíci +237

    Oogie's Revenge has my favourite portrayal of Finkelstein next to the OG film. He's just so happy talking to Jack about his inventions, and he even complimented Jack's Sandy costume that Sally made. Sally even tells Jack to save the Doctor, showing she actually does care about her creator! The game itself does have some stuff I'm not a fan of, but when it comes to the writing, world-building, and characters, it's top-notch!
    There IS another "sequel" of Nightmare in the form of a novel called Long Live The Pumpkin Queen. It focuses on Sally, and... it sucks. The author or Disney or whoever had the BRILLIANT idea (sarcasm) of retconning Sally's origins of being Finkelstein's creation/assistant and have her instead be a princess of "Dream Town". They also changed Fink from an ornery but well-meaning and respected member of Halloween Town into a child kidnapper, kidnapping Sally when she was a child and drugging her with a "Forgetting Potion" because he... *looks at notes* ...wanted a creation/daughter but... he... sucked at making things. 🤦‍♀ The author has a HUGE vendetta against my favourite character and I hate it. 😿
    ANYWAY! The reason I bring up this tome of retcons and character assassinations is because they DID try and give new lore for the Holidays worlds, which includes giving Valentine's Town a ruler in the form of a Queen named Ruby, portraying Thankgiving Town as a place where everyone is constantly eating (????????) and Independence Town, where citizens and visitors alike go, I assume, blind and deaf from the constant barrage of fireworks.
    Also the Queen of England makes an appearance. And all the Holiday Leaders have a meeting about climate change.
    gdi Disney.

    • @Gameorama91
      @Gameorama91 Před 6 měsíci +37

      Hmmmm I was thinking about giving that novel a try after learning about it, but none of that sounds very good lol.

    • @TheHalloweenSpirit
      @TheHalloweenSpirit Před 6 měsíci +32

      Yeah, I like they want to explore these characters and world but that book is "meh", Sally don't need a new origin story, still the only official canon is the movie itself (even Henry Selick wants to create a Jack prequel but for Tim Burton the film is perfect as it is)

    • @scientistservant
      @scientistservant Před 6 měsíci +9

      @@Gameorama91 Yeah, it's extremely disappointing.

    • @scientistservant
      @scientistservant Před 6 měsíci +30

      @@TheHalloweenSpirit I even pre-ordered the book 'cause I was excited to read a story about Sally, and people were saying the book was gonna delve into her past, which I ASSUMED was gonna be her early life as a creation, and her and Fink's relationship. Silly me, right? 🙄

    • @TheAssassinLoverYT
      @TheAssassinLoverYT Před 6 měsíci +18

      I just saw this book and was waiting until I had spare change. Thank you for saving me as I don't make a lot and that would have killed me to know I spent my fun money on it

  • @RicardoCon94
    @RicardoCon94 Před 6 měsíci +190

    Theres quite a bit of behind the scenes content for the PS2 game available to the public. In Japan there is a special disc for the game that shows Tim Burton meeting up with the Capcom devs and watching them play the game as he comments about it as well as showing him the different designs for Jack. On the disc theres an interview with the director and the artist for the game including a concept art gallery. Inside the two Japanese guide books theres some concept art and hi rez drawings of the characters. I bought these last year and happy to have them. Lastly, a special edition in Japan comes with a soundtrack CD.

    • @TheHalloweenSpirit
      @TheHalloweenSpirit Před 6 měsíci +3

      I wish that both Capcom and Disney make a remaster of this game 🥲

    • @redx459
      @redx459 Před 6 měsíci

      Only other edition I found is the CD edition with no bonus dvd. Unless you mean the bonus videos are on the main game disc already?

  • @davidstrife165
    @davidstrife165 Před 6 měsíci +10

    The use of the shrunken head as a health item in the first game actually recontextualizes it as a gift in the movie, as the intent behind it becomes oddly wholesome. By giving it as a gift, it becomes a wish of good health to the reciever.

  • @thundertwonk1090
    @thundertwonk1090 Před 6 měsíci +39

    I still have Oogie's Revenge, and I think about it a lot. Other than Kingdom Hearts and Rachet & Clank, this was my favorite game for a long time. And honestly, it still holds up despite its clunk and age

  • @nickrayer3776
    @nickrayer3776 Před 6 měsíci +57

    I feel like a cool idea would've been if jack gotten different costumes in different worlds like easter costume with bounching eggs or the independence day with fireworks as projectiles

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +15

      I think it would’ve been a great idea to see the game explore some of the other worlds and implement different costumes like that.

  • @FightingFoodonsFan
    @FightingFoodonsFan Před 6 měsíci +25

    I forget if it was in the movie or Kingdom Hearts, but I'm fairly sure they implied a particular bug in his burlap body was the real him, since the last one talked in a high-pitch silly voice. I assume each bug he "ate" was in fact forced to help move the burlap body (or maybe they get mindcontrolled by the Oogie bug?). Or maybe the Oogie bug is his "Brain Bug".

  • @vioninjadogdb8428
    @vioninjadogdb8428 Před 6 měsíci +53

    The games for two different systems and being in two different genres reminds me of the Monster House games. The Gameboy advance one (the one I owned) was like an old top down zelda game combined with backtracking to access new areas like a metroidvania (I don’t know the particular genre this would fall under) meanwhile the console version of the game (with the same name as the Gameboy advance game) was a survival horror game. Very interesting to see Nightmare Before Christmas games had a similar difference in genres.

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +12

      I had no idea that they did this with the Monster House games, but that's pretty neat! It's also quite the coincidence to have another set of games based on a Halloween time movie tackle completely different genres.

    • @KingNedya
      @KingNedya Před 6 měsíci +3

      I forgot about the Monster House GBA game, but I did have it, and I might still have it somewhere

  • @thefabuloustrash05
    @thefabuloustrash05 Před 6 měsíci +34

    21:53 depend if you consider it canon or not but in the book Long Live The Pumpkin Queen, Jack and Sally meet the ruler of Valentines Day Town and her name is Ruby Valentino, her citizens are hundreds of baby cupids flying around
    Also in Independence Day town the book says it’s always night with no stars in the sky and a never ending firework show gonna on 24/7, while in St Patrick’s day Town there’s a miniature village where a bunch of tiny leprechauns live

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +9

      That's an extremely interesting concept for Independence Day Town, but living there has to be a nightmare unless you just become numb to the sound of fireworks lol.

    • @FightingFoodonsFan
      @FightingFoodonsFan Před 6 měsíci +1

      It was an alright book, with a interesting villain, but I felt like if it had a movie made for it, the movie would have been like 30 minutes, unless they did some added scenes. Also The Valentines Day Town had more citizens then just cupids (cupids start out as "normal babies" and grow wings later), there were people made of chocolate (and maybe candy) and they came in some combination of pink, red, white, and brown (like milk chocolate) but otherwise look like humans in fancy clothes. No one was single in Valentine Town...besides the cupids (for obvious reasons), and the queen (who had a crush on Shakespeare, but didn't know he passed on decades ago on Earth).

    • @FightingFoodonsFan
      @FightingFoodonsFan Před 6 měsíci +2

      It ended in a sequel-hook of tons of doors to other worlds, besides the currently known holiday worlds.

  • @CertavusGrey5450
    @CertavusGrey5450 Před 6 měsíci +22

    I remember owning both games when they first released and enjoying them quite a bit 😊.
    I liked unlocking Jack’s alternate costumes in Oogie’s revenge. I remember getting so lost during the hinterlands portion(didn’t have a guide and didn’t think to look it up). I also loved how they redid some of the songs from the movie to fit what was happening. One part I was not fan of was that you could only upgrade your abilities in the 2nd level, which meant having to replay it if I wanted to upgrade anything.
    I would love to see either one get a stream release. Modders could probably have fun with it.

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +3

      I admittedly got pretty lost on the Hinterlands portion as well. Really cool environment and nice music, but certainly felt like a crazy version of the Lost Woods.

  • @Whitest_Of_Bones
    @Whitest_Of_Bones Před 6 měsíci +22

    I’m so glad someone’s finally talking about these games! I loved them as a kid

  • @SRSF_VEVO
    @SRSF_VEVO Před 6 měsíci +9

    I absolutely adore the original film, and it's probably the thing that made me appreciate claymation as an artform when I was younger. I recently found out about this game a few days before Halloween because one of my pals on discord brought it up outta nowhere and curiosity got the best out of me, and so far? I've been having such a blast playing through it (as of writing this, I just obtained the Pumpkin King ability.) It's funny how I got this video recommended to me a week afterwards.
    Ngl, I'd love to see a modding scene rise for Oogie's Revenge, There's so much potential to expand the combat, add custom movesets to the game, make visual changes, give some of the mechanics some spit and polish
    I'd think what I'd like to see out of modding this game the most is fixing my main issue with the game by replacing the regular fight theme with literally anything but "This Is Halloween." (or at least an instrumental) and lowering Jack's voiceline frequency. Because as much as I dont mind it, the last thing I would want is Jack yelling out "Soul Robber!" into my ringing ears like it's that one scene from Akira

  • @MeIshKittie
    @MeIshKittie Před 6 měsíci +8

    I never forgot this game. I remember everytime we would go to Walmart, i would beg my dad to buy this for me, and his excuse was it was demonic, but he finally did lol. I never beat the final boss because it was too hard for me at the time.

  • @blansteif
    @blansteif Před 6 měsíci +4

    I hope you've recovered from your sickness! I have been sick aswell, and its been effecting me a lot lol
    I appreciated this video as background noise for drawing, I knew there were tnbc games, but I didn't know the history or amount, so it was engaging and fun to learn more about them! earned a sub :>

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes, I’ve been feeling a lot better! Thank you! I’m sorry to hear you’ve gotten hit by illness as well, but I hope you feel better soon! I also hope that it was a fruitful drawing session.

  • @1Synner
    @1Synner Před 6 měsíci +20

    Oogie's Revenge has one of the most broken grab mechanics in the game, and I'm not even talking about its basic grab. If you charge up (either via holding down the attack button, or taunting an enemy for an instant charge), and grab while mashing the grab button, you will start turning into an absolute tornado of death. It lasts as long as the Soul Robber can hold out (indicated by its color), but can be extended through the blue soul items. There's a secret mission in Dr. Finklesteins Lab where there are 100 enemies in a small room. If you go in there with max Blue Souls in your pocket, you're going to have a GOOOOOOOOD time.

  • @GreebleClown
    @GreebleClown Před 6 měsíci +2

    I remember loving the combat in Oogie’s Revenge. I’d dodge around the arena like I was dancing and hit strategic attacks, usually in rhythm to the music playing. Man, I played the heck out of this game!

  • @ZackeroniAndCheese
    @ZackeroniAndCheese Před 6 měsíci +12

    I had never heard of these games before.
    Love this overview!

  • @apchibidubtalia8286
    @apchibidubtalia8286 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Special fact too is that the Thespian Jack costume in Oogie's Revenge would also have a figure doll released in SDCC 2008 as Othello Jack. The Thespian outfit could just refer to theater in general, but it's interesting the people who were manufacturing the doll pick this specific Shakespearean play. Though thinking Jack as Othello and Oogie as Iago, it probably fits.

  • @keepingcompany8196
    @keepingcompany8196 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Man it's actually crazy to unpack the forgotten memories i have from the ps2 version of oogie's revenge! If not for this video i may have never remembered playing that game, as stuff like kingdom hearts had my interest moreso at that time. Great video and thanks for covering the game!

  • @yaboishrimps
    @yaboishrimps Před 6 měsíci +3

    I think Oogie's Revenge is truly the one to point a finger at when questioning my obsession with this universe. Not being able to beat Cerberus on DMC 3 as a kid, I guess this ended up being my alternative. I actually played the game before ever seeing the movie, so I usually had to get my mom to do the corpse kid quiz for me.

  • @TheNumber1RatedSalesman1997
    @TheNumber1RatedSalesman1997 Před 6 měsíci +1

    thanks for the trip down memory lane; life's been strange lately, & to see some childhood games has been a treat; excellent video !

  • @nextgenwarrior
    @nextgenwarrior Před 5 měsíci +1

    I was so obsessed with Nightmare back when I was in junior high, was my favorite movie for years. So, of course, I had Oogie's Revenge preordered and got it the day it came out. I have pretty fond memories of the game, would enjoy a chance to play it again.

  • @JonBarton19
    @JonBarton19 Před 6 měsíci +1

    It's Crazy to see how much you've grown since college. Your channel is doing great and your videos keep getting better. Good Job!

  • @nastyasfrick
    @nastyasfrick Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is an amazing video!! Everything is thoroughly explored, the video is well built, and you kept my attention!! 9/10

  • @Lightwolf234
    @Lightwolf234 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I love Oogie’s Revenge! It was such a stupidly cool game. The Soul Rubber was a cool mechanic and the transformation were cool and being able to explore Halloween town was awesome. Plus the boss battles were something else.

  • @leilakhan7663
    @leilakhan7663 Před 6 měsíci +4

    this video has just reminded me of a Disney short stories book my mother got me when i was little.
    in one of them, it’s all about how jack and father christmas have become good friends after the events of the movie. i think the plot was jack trying to find the perfect christmas present for father christmas but i’m not entirely sure. the story also makes a reference to the other towns and their leaders but again not sure what is said about them.
    i’ve been trying to track down the book in our attic for a long time but i cannot find it, which is infuriating since i want to reread the story.

  • @theprofesser9797
    @theprofesser9797 Před 6 měsíci

    This is the best review of Oogies Revenge I’ve ever seen in my 6 years Speedrunning Oogies Revenge. Thank you

  • @LockytheLimeHare
    @LockytheLimeHare Před 6 měsíci +9

    They really missed the chance to call the Santa Jack skin "Sandy Claws" after how he misspronounced Santa's name

  • @DilSnaps
    @DilSnaps Před 6 měsíci

    Loved this video, hope you make more like this

  • @gustavolopes5094
    @gustavolopes5094 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Ah yes, "Going to sleep before Christmas" and "Waking up scared on Christmas morning". Eternal classics.

  • @DaCaptainDerpy
    @DaCaptainDerpy Před 6 měsíci +4

    Happy Halloween!
    I just recently discovered you from Zero Escape and Xenoblade and now you are talking about a GBA game from my childhood!
    Happily excited for more!

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Happy Halloween! Thanks for checking out those videos! Glad to have ya!

    • @miribell8646
      @miribell8646 Před 6 měsíci

      The Zero Escape series games are fun

  • @CobaltContrast
    @CobaltContrast Před 6 měsíci +1

    Am I new to this channel? Your coverage ans video was exceptional. I dont know anything about these games but i was entertained the whole time.

  • @complex2live
    @complex2live Před 6 měsíci

    I am so glad this video essay came into my recommended

  • @musicbricks
    @musicbricks Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much for creating and sharing the story! I really appreciated it :) I've made a LEGO 'The Night Before Christmas' song, so it's fun to learn more about the story.

  • @necros748
    @necros748 Před 6 měsíci

    This is the first video I've seen from you, editing is on point 29:30

  • @TheSuperNintenderps
    @TheSuperNintenderps Před 6 měsíci

    Love your sense of humor! Great video :)

  • @yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield

    This was fun. Thank you.

  • @ZackeroniAndCheese
    @ZackeroniAndCheese Před 6 měsíci +5

    Man this brings me back to the good old days of me and my friends sitting around eating pizza on weekends just playing game after game of Bonebreaker until the sun came up

  • @Starry9593
    @Starry9593 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I've decided that the Thanksgiving town is ruled over by the giant turkey from Scooby-Doo and The Witch's Ghost....
    Change my mind!!

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci

      I can get behind this headcanon.

  • @carro_ott
    @carro_ott Před 6 měsíci +2

    As a kid, I though oogie’s revenge went so hard. The clip of buying upgrades just gave me a boost of Serotonin from the nostalgia. That games EATS

  • @timbrown9361
    @timbrown9361 Před 6 měsíci

    Enjoyed the video thanks

  • @MikeSalopek
    @MikeSalopek Před 6 měsíci +1

    I got both of these games from my daughter when she was little, And we had so much fun beating both of these. Glad to hear you give Kingdom Hearts a nod though because I think that's the best representation done in video game

  • @KrazyKaiser
    @KrazyKaiser Před 6 měsíci +3

    Got to see the 30th anniversary showing in theaters, it was my brothers first time ever seeing the movie, what an amazing experience!!

    • @RetroDeathReviews666
      @RetroDeathReviews666 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Same! Just saw it yesterday. Hope it'll be back soon, it was incredible experiencing it in 3D in the theatres.

    • @KrazyKaiser
      @KrazyKaiser Před 6 měsíci

      @@RetroDeathReviews666 You got to see it in 3D? Very cool!!

  • @rfn_reacts5548
    @rfn_reacts5548 Před 6 měsíci

    Awesome video!!

  • @ituxed0cat
    @ituxed0cat Před 6 měsíci +2

    One line from the book clashes with the movie, and it bothers me to this day. When Jack says he has no idea who Shakespeare is.

    • @scientistservant
      @scientistservant Před 6 měsíci +1

      That's because the book is disappointing trash. There was no need for Sally's origin to be changed, and on top of that the writer had no clue how to write the characters. It's nothing but glorified fanfic that happened to get published.

  • @aintnobrakes9855
    @aintnobrakes9855 Před 6 měsíci +2

    22:14 worldwide there’s about 150 countries that have an Independence Day of some sort.. it would be like a bunch of characters from all these nations that enjoy their freedom with some anarchist at the top

  • @austingerlach4000
    @austingerlach4000 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I was finally just recently able to play oogies revenge. You can actually emulate it my friend and I found out which was super exciting. It’s a game I played as a kid but never beat and had been wanting to revisit it for years so this video couldn’t have come at a more perfect time. I think anyone who is a big fan of the movie like myself and enjoys action adventure style games should defiantly play this game. These type of games don’t really exist anymore and you can tell Capcom defiantly put some love into it.

  • @Raybro16
    @Raybro16 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I remember playing the console game and having a great time with it. The musical bits in the boss fights were flashy but could be very difficult. Had no idea here was a GBA game, let alone it being a metroidvania. Wish I did now ;w;

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci

      I'd say it's still worth checking out if you liked Oogie's Revenge, especially since you can pump it out in a short time!

  • @mattszwejkowski4926
    @mattszwejkowski4926 Před 6 měsíci +7

    THIS IS HALLOWEEN

  • @crazychrisi
    @crazychrisi Před 6 měsíci +2

    I loved the ps2 game and i remember the time i tried to 100% the game. I dont know if it was just me but the chapter where you had to capture the 4 vampires and put them back in the coffins really drove me crazy. The time limit to get an S rank was so obnoxious. But at the end walking around as jack dressed up as the phantom of the opera, which you only got by getting an S rank in every chapter and finnishing the 2 bonus chapters, was absolutely worth it.

  • @joined_shores_art
    @joined_shores_art Před 6 měsíci +4

    I remember the PS2 game very well. My brother made it a tradition to play it every year on halloween until the ps2 broke. But whenever I play Kingdom Hearts and see Jack, I instantly remember that game. something that doesn't happen when I watch the movie. Odd.

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I’ve actually seen a few people note how they found out about the movie through outside material like Kingdom Hearts, which is really interesting to see!

  • @BarbieZluvCheddar
    @BarbieZluvCheddar Před 6 měsíci

    I never see people play or talk about the games online. And seeing someone talk about them makes me happy.

  • @GerardMenvussa
    @GerardMenvussa Před 6 měsíci +4

    lol Disney being afraid of damaging their brand. Ah, that was a different era.
    3:36 cool box art though :)

  • @djnorris1572
    @djnorris1572 Před 5 měsíci

    5:07 Sick transition.

  • @ehoffart529
    @ehoffart529 Před 6 měsíci

    Man I loved Oogie's. Got it for my Xbox randomly and it was so much fun. Plus I actually liked a lot of the music.

  • @kanden27
    @kanden27 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I've actually never seen Nightmare before Christmas until last Friday. My only experience with it was Kingdom hearts 1 and 2. So I thought there were at least 2 movies of it.

  • @kushinkurushimi8471
    @kushinkurushimi8471 Před 6 měsíci

    5:11 was a perfect narration and I will give like for that

  • @haileyfandroidfan1164
    @haileyfandroidfan1164 Před 5 měsíci

    I love how the flash game cutscend just abruptly stopped

  • @e2011ugdia
    @e2011ugdia Před 5 měsíci

    Fun fact: the pumpkin king gba game is getting its own visual novel retelling the Events with a unique spin by having oogie and jack be friends competeting in a friendly competition to get the position of the pumpkin king while the now retired pumpkin king wanting to manipulate his succsessor so he can rule Halloween town beyond his retirement by having his sucsessor which ends up to be jack to do his dirty work but jack finds out about the pumpkin king manipulating him and he defeats him and becomes the true ruler of halloween town and while jack got all the fame oogie faded into obscurity

  • @brohanb7037
    @brohanb7037 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you for confirming that I was in fact not having a fever dream playing an Xbox Nightmare Before Christmas game when I was a little kid.

  • @ProfessorHanger
    @ProfessorHanger Před 6 měsíci

    Oogie's Revenge lives in my head rent free for the boss music alone

  • @Polkavona
    @Polkavona Před 6 měsíci +1

    I remember these! Are they online for us to still play? I was struggling hard and never finished oogies revenge lmao

  • @danielpratt3794
    @danielpratt3794 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Wow never realised Jack had such an arsenal and moveset,
    Coming to smash when?

  • @OshawottNate
    @OshawottNate Před 6 měsíci

    i remember playing Oogie's Revenge on my PS2. I still have it somewhere in my garage I believe

  • @beatsthefox
    @beatsthefox Před 6 měsíci

    "GEORGE W BUSH?!" had me dying 😂

  • @HazeX2
    @HazeX2 Před 6 měsíci

    I love Oogie's Revenge, I've got to try the DMC games eventually since it's the one thing people bring up when talking about it

  • @dannycanfield3038
    @dannycanfield3038 Před 6 měsíci

    Just restarted Oogie's Revenge to play with the kids since they're now obsessed with the film.

  • @TheBl00D1u5t
    @TheBl00D1u5t Před 6 měsíci +1

    I played the pumpkin king way back when I was a kid. It was super complicated and hard for my kid brain to follow. I always go back and look at my old GBASP and think about that game. I may have to try it out again now that I am older and have a better grasp on progression.

  • @FireWolf625
    @FireWolf625 Před 6 měsíci

    Omg i can relate to the clown with the tearaway face so much. It was so frustrating, i think i ended up raging quitting and finally figuring it out the day after, took me hours tho

  • @charliebell5584
    @charliebell5584 Před 6 měsíci

    That hot topic comment killed me and i even knew it was coming 🤣

  • @Nyerguds
    @Nyerguds Před 6 měsíci +2

    The leader of Independence Day Town is obviously the ghost of Benjamin Franklin.

  • @Demi-bort
    @Demi-bort Před 2 měsíci

    Still so wild that to finish off Oogie, Jack put on a frickin' COWBOY hat and broke down the sickest dance moves to break Oogie's spirit and leave only a pile of bugs

  • @KingdomKing13
    @KingdomKing13 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I always assumed Uncle Sam was the leader of Independence Day Town.

  • @Echoingsunflowers981
    @Echoingsunflowers981 Před 6 měsíci

    20:28 it’s revealed in the new graphic novel that came out this year that Oogie is actually the sack and not the bugs, he was just possessed by the bugs after the old pumpkin king convinced him to eat them

  • @michaelpiper8198
    @michaelpiper8198 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I can't really consider the Pumpkin Queen book that's by a separate author to be canon especially considering how things ended between Tim Burton and Disney, on top of it being Burton's legal team that were the ones that made comments and gave the rights with Burton making no comments (as of yet I have found no direct quote from him instead being through legal team) Just how long its been alone shows that he has no real attachment to the Pumpkin Queen making it not canon.
    Good or not it's only ever going to be a fanfic to me and if Disney wants to do their usual thing now and remake their world for "modern audiences" I'm sure that won't matter to them.

  • @AmberSong
    @AmberSong Před 6 měsíci +1

    I came across an official comic book at Walmart set to when Jack was a kid. It depicted Jack and Oogy as childhood friends what made them enemies was the competition to choose the new Pumpkin King. Oogy cheated and had the help of the retiring Pumpkin King and still lost.

  • @x217xwebb
    @x217xwebb Před 6 měsíci

    NBC is one of my favorites of all time. I was born in 93' and watched this movie so many times as a kid that the vhs tape came apart in our vcr. Now all three of my kids love it. My youngest just watched it for the first time last week. Such a fantastic movie.

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      That's awesome that you grew up on it and your kids are following the tradition! I'm a '95 kid and would always watch the film growing up, too.

  • @masqueradian2028
    @masqueradian2028 Před 6 měsíci

    I had the GBA game as a kid! It's so nostalgic seeing it again.

  • @diabolicallink
    @diabolicallink Před 6 měsíci

    21:58 we actually get to meet the leaders of St Patrick’s day town, Valentine’s Day town and maybe even thanksgiving town (but I can’t remember for sure) in ‘Long Live the Pumpkin Queen’

  • @alenezi989a3
    @alenezi989a3 Před 6 měsíci +3

    It's funny how I learned of this movie from Kingdom Hearts, and it was my favorite world to visit, I actually thought it was an original world not from Disney. I loved the Ps2 game.

  • @MindlessVoicess
    @MindlessVoicess Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have Oogies revenge and never beat the last chapter, but it's still one of my most favorite games I played. I should definitely play it again.

  • @FuryousD
    @FuryousD Před 6 měsíci

    i would consistently stay in Halloween Town in the Kingdoms Hearts games because i just love that Theme so yea i could never get tired of hearing it playing in the background.

  • @akshaytrayner1960
    @akshaytrayner1960 Před 6 měsíci

    great vid mate

  • @garthdavis4320
    @garthdavis4320 Před 6 měsíci +3

    The Pumpkin King game should be remastered.

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci

      It'd be nice to see it available on modern consoles even if it was digital only!

  • @sobeksenpai5531
    @sobeksenpai5531 Před 6 měsíci

    Oogies revenge is a staple of my childhood, anytime i see those sticky hand toys all i hear in my head is 'Soul Robber!"

  • @faerieknight2298
    @faerieknight2298 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If you liked the musical number boss fights, you should check out Stubs the Zombie in Rebel Without a Pulse. It's a quirky and fun zombie apocalypse game where you play the zombie triggering said apocalypse. And one of the few boss fights is... a dance off to 1950's pop music covers.

  • @gummywormy98
    @gummywormy98 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I loved the GBA game!! I played it for hours as a kid just roaming around and trying to find all the collectibles. Actually hilarious to me that it’s my first metroidvania but haha years later I did get into both series
    I sadly was never able to beat the final boss BUT 10 Y/O ME GAVE IT THEIR ALL
    I remember sometimes I’d just hang around for fun watching all of Jack’s twirly animations, I especially loved the Bat Boomerang ones!
    It was a joy to hear the music again too :]
    It’s a very vague memory but I remember it coming with a poster with a dome shape on it to cut out and glue together! It was Jack’s head and you opened it to show the main cast inside
    Sadly that was lost over time along with the very cool box but I thankfully still have the game haha
    (Also thanks the Jojo frog gun made me scream laugh AND PUMPKIN PUSSY?? I SWEAR HE SAYS PUSS BUT THATS INFINITELY FUNNIER)
    (ALSO IM DOWN FOR BONE BREAKER ANYTIME I WAS CHAMPION OF THAT SHIT AS A KID)

  • @g9blin603
    @g9blin603 Před 5 měsíci

    There was a TON of nightmare before christmas themed houses and costumes this Halloween. I love the movie for sure but i don’t remember all this happening last year.

  • @Loki_Gal9322
    @Loki_Gal9322 Před 6 měsíci

    I played these games all the time from start to finish.

  • @ChristianFrates1997
    @ChristianFrates1997 Před 5 měsíci

    I remember playing those games! I liked the re-creation of This Is Halloween.

  • @Zedonus0
    @Zedonus0 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I remember playing these 2 games growing up. Unfortunately, I never beat either of them. The PS2 one, I actually got stuck in some chapter and couldn't figure out how to pass it, and we didn't really have YT playthroughs way back then, sooo yeah. I remember fighting that spider, bit idk if that was the chapter I got stuck on.

  • @justin-alexander
    @justin-alexander Před 6 měsíci

    i never about the games until i watched your video so it looks like im gonna be searching for the ps2 version since i still own a ps2

  • @Kinetic_the_1st
    @Kinetic_the_1st Před 4 měsíci

    When the camera went through the Halloween door I got a “welcome to cece’s” ad

  • @reffa2858
    @reffa2858 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Kingdom Hearts 2 was my first NBC game. It was also my first time I "saw" the movie.

    • @KayJulers
      @KayJulers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      It’s really interesting to see several people sharing that KH was their first exposure to the film since I grew up on the movie, but it’s also cool to think about!