The FORGOTTEN The Nightmare Before Christmas Sequel (and Prequel)
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- čas přidán 27. 10. 2022
- The Nightmare Before Christmas sequel (and prequel) that nobody talks about anymore - it's easy to see why both Oogie's Revenge and The Pumpkin King have been completely forgotten by fans of the original cult classic Disney film.
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I'm happy that Disney has rarely done anything with the movie. I think that's the main reason it's staying so relevant. Disney usually screws up their very good properties by using them too much and by leaving this alone they keep things the same and don't ruin a pretty perfect movie. I think if they made a sequel back in the day about any of the MANY doors in the woods things would be better but if they make a movie today I think it'll just be ruined.
Definitely a fair point. It would have been way too easy for Disney to botch things.
A sequel only makes sense if Tim Burton and/or Henry Selick (with Danny Elfman) wants to make a continuation
Disney low-key ruined Sally because they let some one create an origin story for her, and it lightly goes against what was shown in the film.
@@TheHalloweenSpirit And considering what Tim Burton has said about never wanting to work with Disney again that, fortunately, doesn't seem like it's going to happen
Problem is they are literally going to any old property and doing things they have no business doing (Hocus Pocus 2 for instance). I wouldn't be surprised if they decide that the money is too good to pass. And we all know what quality they're currently churning out.
I totally loved oogies revenge. It wasn't just a hollow remake to me. It's one of my favorite PS2 games.
Definitely not hollow and clearly made by Devs that cared about the source material.
I HIGHLY recommend reading the new book, Long Live the Pumpkin Queen. If they make a sequel to the movie it should absolutely be based around this book.
Yeah the book is awesome
I hope that is the medium they use if they want to make more nightmare stories.
Now that I can agree on, the book was great!
The movie has basically survived entirely from its aesthetic which was very marketable back when goth and emo was popular in the 2000s so a movie sequel probably wouldn’t be necessary to sell stuff. Some ideas from this game would later be used in other capcom games oddly enough since they had a hand in making it. (jacks whip like grabs are oddly similar to what would be used in Devil May Cry 4) in fact I believe a lot of the devs that looked over this game would also work on other future action games which is funny considering this all came from an ok tie in game about nightmare before Christmas
They did a sequel with sally in book format called the pumpkin queen, it’s a interesting idea that wasn’t written perfectly but opens the worlds and we actually get to see lost doors, holidays and celebrations lost to time.
Got both these games a couple years ago. The GBA one was a pretty good metroidvania style game and the PS2 one was pretty good too. Until I got stuck on the gauntlet level where you gotta beat all the monsters in a short amount of time. Great video 🙂
Thanks! Yeah, that gauntlet is BRUTAL
I’m frustrated with how The Pumpkin King takes place one year before the events of the film even though the film very much makes it clear that Jack has been the Pumpkin King for multiple years
I truly love the game :) and I love the music , though I did hate the part with the buttons, always went so fast on me 😅
Sally has her own book called the pumpkin queen , if it’s truly part of the story then it shows her and Jack getting married and it gives her a chance to go into other towns , even starts with Jack taking her to valentines town
It’s a really good book and a interesting look on Sally story :)
the writer said she got the ok from Disney and Tim Burton to write it , but I don’t think I ever heard it confirmed that it’s really a nightmare before Christmas sequel
The last few musical button segments were definitely brutal!
@@theothervault oh yea 😆 I never got to win cause of them buttons , my husband was able to do it yet I couldn’t 😂😂
That same writer is writing a prequel of Oogie boogie’s, and Jack Skellington’s relationship with how it ended at Jack’s crowning as the Pumpkin King. And while she didn’t write it, there is a comic of Zero having his own holiday adventure.
@@toivoajarakkaus9788 where did you see this? I can’t find it anywhere.
2:30
They kinda did the same thing with the GBA game except as a prequel to the movie giving Oogie Boogie's reputation in Halloween Town an origin story
The GBA version is pretty impressive given its limitations
It's just that Henry Selick did such an amazing job
i never even knew nighttmare before christmas got a game! rlly interesting!
Thanks so much! It's definitely due for some kind of remaster or rerelease.
Good thing Disney found Capcom to work on what is apparently 'Christmas May Cry'. They had a good bond next to Square Enix and Nintendo when it comes to Disney in gaming. Rebeltaxi explained about this game's flaws in his review of Oogie's Revenge; I just hope the two give the game a Devil May Cry 'Special Edition' treatment, which fixes many of its flaws. If only Jack had to travel into other holiday worlds, good thing Thanksgiving Town and St. Patrick's Day Town get a skip because sickness in the 1700s and alcohol shots. I declare that Nero has his own Soul Robber in DMC5! The prequel is good also, but the enemies are lackluster. Just bugs, bugs, and butterflies confirmed by Spongebob as scary-same goes with Rezzie and DMC2.
I remember seeing concept art for this game years and years ago when I was a young, hyped fan of The Nightmare Before Christmas. They had Easter in shambles, which leads me to believe that there were originally going to be more holiday worlds, likely on a second disc or something.
That said, I don't know why it was cut, and I cannot for the life of me find that old concept art. I'm guessing the other worlds were either cut because of time constraints or because Disney was being a little choosey with what could be done around their properties around this time. Remember how Epic Mickey was held back because Disney didn't want Evil Mickey to be a thing?
Would totally believe all of this
It basically played similarly to the first Devil May Cry. I enjoyed it quite a bit when it came out :)
Yup! Definitely feels very Nightmare May Cry.
The LEGIT memories I have playing this game with my brother, we didn't really understand it but SOUL ROBBER will forever haunt my brain like Oogie Boogie.
YES! I had to mute the voice audio because of this one line.
This was pretty interesting to see. I’m not sure if a sequel would be awesome or not, it depends on how they’d execute it. Great video.
Thank you!
I LOVED the game. Truly a perfect sequel to the movie.
Right! I’ve always been amazed how much hype and fandom nightmare before Christmas has gained! And it just seems to get more popular year after year!
I was really surprised and have to check if this is the original uploader O.o how do you not have more subscribers? Great video thank you :)
Thanks! I'm just getting started with lots more to come!
First 10 seconds of the video/game gave me "The Little Mermaid" vibes... The Giant Villain slamming the protagonists and the crown they wear and the double voice, and the hero's dodging each of their attacks 😂
Oh my gosh, I had forgotten all about this game! Was there like, a lower level of Halloween town, like the slums or something? I remember liking that area
Yep! That Sewers/Slums area definitely helped mixed things up
Me and my family watch the nightmare before Christmas every single Halloween, (even if a couple of my family members don’t like it ) And I never really wanted a second movie or any games for it, it was just such a perfect movie to me that I just never really thought you could do anything with the story, The main bad guy dies, the main dude gets the girl, Santa saves Christmas, so what else would you do?! Lol I’m just glad the movie got a little bit leverage. :)
Yeah - it really is a nice little self contained story.
@@theothervault :D
I have wanted this game / ever since I heard of it. I really hope it gets a remake!
A remaster would be great!
This channel is quite Underrated. How come it don't have more subscribers
Aw, thanks so much! Lots more to come, so stay tuned
@@theothervault I will stay tuned to all you have to bring. Discord server and sponsors.
2:32 I very vaguely remember that trailer as a kid. I only saw it once but I remember being a little scared by how the characters looked. God that sent me back.
Great video, fantastic commentary, solid editing. Keep up the good work man.
Thanks so much for the positive feedback!
Long live the pumpkin queen
A sequel book for its just came out
Awesome! Will definitely check out.
Nightmare before Christmas STILL SLAMS TO THIS DAY!!! And I'm happy for it
OMG those sound effects over the songs though...might as well bang pots and pans over the segment
Definitely didn't make these mini-games any less brutal to get through...
Just found your channel, and your review was definitely great. You give the presence and tone of a casual fella who wants to talk what's on his mind (In contrast to the usual over-the-top personalities of most reviewers, no offense to them) , and I like that. And you hit it right on the head with these games, as someone who's played them, they just seemed like decent returns to nostalgic moments of the film and are okay to play.
But there is ONE thing I have to talk about. Thank you. I thought I was the only one who thought that moment in Kingdom Hearts 2 was what I thought it was. Hahaha!
In short. 10/10. Subscribed. And bell is rung! Can't wait to see what else you do.
So glad to hear that you enjoyed this one!
@@theothervault This one, the 'Censored moments of Disney', and the 'Bill Cosby forewarning us of what he was' episodes were all fantastic! Glad to see a fan of Disney going for things most would probably overlook. I find that awesome!
Even if all I hear now is: ~"I'm the fuller brush man! I'm giving a free sample!"~ in my head over and over.
You’re 100% gonna be a big CZcamsr in the future. I’m glad I’m able to be a subscriber from the start.
Thanks for the words of encouragement! I'm glad you're a subscriber from the start, too!
I remember the forgotten sequel to The Incredibles.
The Incredibles Rise of the Underminer.
Hmmm... That's not a bad idea...
I'm so glad you made this video. I got this video game as a gift when I was a child, and it's one of the games I never played and always regretted it. This is just what I needed to maybe give it a try
Thanks! Definitely worth diving back in and checking out
There's going to be a new comic series that show Jack's and Oogie's friendship when they were younger and how the competition for the title of Pumpkin King tore them apart to become rivals.
Hmm 🤔 interesting
Interesting. I didn't know there was such a handful of side projects for this franchise.
I believe the manga 'Zero's Journey' was also a thing.
I got this game as a used copy and it still makes me mad; when I bought the game, the seller was telling that the game was pristine and in good condition, but when I got the game it was all scratched up that you could only play the first 15 minutes of the game. Although it's cool to own a copy, but with what cost 😭
I'm creating a cartoon. It's called, Forgotten Tales! It's about these forgotten and obscure characters that go on wacky and crazy adventures.
This isn't forgotten. This is my childhood.
Glad I could help you revisit it!
It's clear developers ran out of time with oogi's revenge. In the last 7 chapters the difficulty ramps up, the levels are all way shorter, and terrible back tracking all to pad the time out. If your not a fan of nightmare before christmas the game is a 7 over all. It's a 4 to a 5 in the last quarter of the game. Just sad because the game starts off strong, peaks early and then becomes a chore to finish.
Edit: forgot to mention the terrible platforming sections at the end. Terrible collision detection, but also either tons of insta-deaths or fall back to the begging, all while fighting the camera to just see what your doing.
Spot on! The end is definitely rough and lacks the polish of the first few chapters.
I need to dig out my old Xbox and play this game as an adult. I have fond memories of playing it as a kid.
The movie was just so perfect and was meant for children at a time that they are now mostly adults so it would be practically impossible to create a sequel that could rival the original in any way, however an adult adaptation maybe like sin city style would be cool or something but then again it messes with the whole childhood thing and apparantly Disney owns it so good luck lol
I'm legitimately surprised that we haven't gotten an underwhelming direct to Disney+ sequel or series of shorts...
I clicked for the video title, I stayed for the Rocketeer Helmet in the background.
Regardless, it's still a very interesting video, great job!
Thanks for watching! Glad to hear that the helmet is doing its job!
Really enjoyed this video, awesome work man!! Looking forward for more content you enjoy making!
Much appreciated! Lots more in the works!
How does this channel only have 223 subscribers?
Thanks! Gotta start somewhere, I guess
Happy ur video blew up man and I wish u success!
Thanks! I really appreciate the kind words!
I remember playing Oogie's Revenge as a kid!! Thank you for unlocking this from my memory.
Glad I could help with the nostalgia trip!
amazing quality and great content man keep it up!
Thanks so much! Lots more to come
All this time I've never heard of the sequel or the prequel. How am I just now knowing this?!
The bast way to play the Button prom musical numbers is when you lower down the sound effects just a little bit where they’re kind of not noticeable I always did it a lot whenever I play the game growing up😅
That's a good tip! There's always soooooo much going on during these scenes that it's way too easy to get distracted.
The did recently release a book called the Long Live The Pumpkin Queen which ended up basicly being a proper sequel to the movie
I always thought That Oogie boogie would come back
"You don't even have to ask for that"
"😩😫"
This video is amazing, the concept ,sound everything is perfect!!!, how do you not have more subscribers.....subscribed
Much appreciated!
Your outro thing at the end is pretty slick
Thanks! I spent way too long working on it...
I still have this game! My daughter used to love playing it when she was little.
That’s so heartwarming
I can't believe you didn't go through the Holiday doors. Missed opportunity, plus It's already the perfect level select.
Saving that for the follow-up video
First time seeing your content and omg, the Rocketeer helmet! I haven't even heard anything of that movie in decades!
So awesome that you called the helmet out! Definitely the highlight of my very limited collection.
@@theothervault XD Hard not to. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and I loved that movie so much.
Very nice video. I'm the guy who finds all the channels RIGHT BEFORE they blow up. keep making content and YOU'RE NEXT dude.
Thanks so much! I'm so glad you found me!
I am your 396th subscriber. i will remember this when you have thousands of subscribers.
Thanks so much! I'll remember this too!
How do you only have a bit over 800 subscribers? Your videos are on the same level as channels with millions of them!
Thanks so much! Slowly but surely gonna get there!
The fact that at the start it used PlayStation footage but used an xbox controller is hilarious
Playstation 2 disc, played on a PC, using an Xbox controller...
Alright. That just broke my mind.
The Nightmare Before Christmas: Oogie's Revenge is the only video game I ever defeated. 😮💨
Not gonna lie I loved oogies revenge I’ve been craving to play it again but I can’t seem to find my old Xbox anywhere in my house. I also loved the song parts of the game my favorite still being the spider boss where it’s sally singing as jack battles to save her it feels poetic to me
good job with the video! I hope you get far :)
where did you get book??
Thanks!
Well this caught me attention!😊
I had both of these games and I used to play them over and over and over again. I loved the movie and I loved the games so much. I still remember coming home from school to play it on my ps2 right after I played the one for the game boy on the bus.
I always go back to Kingdom hearts when I think about Jack in a game. Especially now where he’s being put into fortnite and a new book came out.
I remember being really thrown off by Sally's voice being an old lady.
Pumpkin King on GBA doesn’t matter,
but Oogie’s Revenge on PS2 and Xbox kinda does.
Why does that green whip reminds me of Kratos blades of chaos XD
Don't know what you mean by forgotten, this was like 90% of what I played on my Xbox.
90%?!
Thanks to a five second clip from My New Haircut by The Cute Mario Bros, I will never forget about this game.
I vaguely remember seeing this game on CZcams just snippets of jack having that booger whip.
Wait there was another game?! I remember as a kid I had a nightmare before Christmas game on my DS I forgot what kind but it was metallic pink.
I remember giving away my DS and games to my cousin, I'm a bit sad now that I see this video because I never finished the game.
I would love a remake of Oggies revenge, the gameplay is just like Debil May Cry (which is understandable since Capcom made it)
The reason why is because Tim Burton refuses to make a new movie because Burton believes that making a good story is better than making a Franchise
Tim burton: no sequels!
Disney: *makes a video game sequel to the nightmare before Christmas*
Tim burton: am I a joke to you?
The Jack is baaaack
That helmet in the background is the only reason I stayed to watch this lol
I'll take it! Thanks for watching!
@@theothervault lol I'm just kidding around, it was a good video and I wondered if anyone even remembered this game. I'm gonna give a few more videos of yours a watch and see what you're like and subscribe
@@UraniumReaperActual Awesome! Hope you enjoy them!
I really loved Oogie’s Revenge. It’s been so long since I’ve played it.
As an actual player of this it's pretty good besides the knockoff ddr segments I feel like they are not needed
Jack is back!
The sequel and prequel would be pretty good but I had no idea The Nightmare Before Christmas had some popular merchandise but I sort of remember the game The Nightmare Before Christmas is not my favorite Disney movie but it's totally unique and amazing.
Oogie May Cry predated DMC4/5 with the whip attack
Brilliant stuff
Thanks for watching!
Tim doesn't want anything to do with the Dismal company, also Dismal didn't even have enough faith in Nightmare to put their worthless name on it when released. They released it under Touchstone Pictures, which is hilarious when you see their name proudly displayed on billions of dollars worth of movie merchandise.
Though easy to see why they were caught off guard by how popular NBC would become with a younger audience over time. Burton films had a much sharper edge and generally were geared towards adults - exactly what Touchstone was built for.
Seems like the real DMC 2
Strong DMC vibes throughout the game
@@theothervault iirc it was made by the same team
Would definitely make sense!
bro i cried when my ps2 broke, never got to play this gem again
PS2 really is the GOAT
I remembered wanting to get that game which I think it was either 2005 or 2006, anyways I wanted to get it while trading back the King Kong PS2 game at GameStop, and while I did find it and was going to get it that was then everything changed when I found a copy of Kingdom Hearts, and thanks to my oldest sister information and interest I choose to get Kingdom Hearts over the other, and now years later I owe that game for making me a Kingdom Hearts fan I still stand today.
KH was definitely the correct choice
@@theothervault and I never regretted it 😊
I still have this game for the OG Xbox
And rather enjoyed it
I remember the game. It was fun. Fairly easy but fun for a rented weekend. Not buying but rental.
I remember playing oogie’s revenge. A remake would be great if done good.
8:57 Jack: Remember that narration epilouge Sally? We gotta bone
Personally I love this game. In truth this was the game that got me to play the Devil May Cry series. I've heard a lot of people say this was basically a kid's version of DMC and having played the whole series that's definitely the case.
Great point. As an intro to DMC, this game is kinda perfect.
You have a new subscriber
Welcome!
My favorite game! So glad it is getting some attention!
So glad you found this! Thanks for watching!
Well sequel is now inaccurate since they came out with a book mainly focusing on sally
I would only want to see the other holiday's expanded on. Just to see the visuals alone of those worlds would make me happy. But Tim and Disney are like enemies I thought so doubt it would happen.
Yeah - you're probably right...
I remember playing this game
That outro