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  • @carteblanchetv
    @carteblanchetv  Před 2 měsíci +24

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  • @yanniw9007
    @yanniw9007 Před měsícem +75

    Ok. I've been driving heavy trucks for 20 years. You can ask any experienced long distance truck driver and they all gonna tell you the same thing. The accident started 3km up the road in the beginning of the pass. The driver didn't slow down early. When he realized that the downhill was long, he used his brakes too much. Heavy vehicles are not like cars. Brakes overheats very quickly on downhills and when they do you have no brakes. That's why trucks move very slowly down mountain passes. Once you start running there is nothing that can stop you. Also heavy vehicles have more than one braking systems. Brakes, exhaust brakes, and retarder. So to make a long story short, the concrete barrier couldn't have save them unless it was 2m high. The only thing that could slow down the bus in that situation was the retarder. It is a very powerful hydraulic system that brakes the gearbox. Unfortunately retarders are very expensive, but they should be mandatory.

    • @dala220
      @dala220 Před měsícem +2

      I agree with you. 💯

    •  Před 28 dny +3

      💯 ...Those barriers are too low

    • @maliwanhlanhla9329
      @maliwanhlanhla9329 Před 27 dny

      Thank you

  • @montenell7940
    @montenell7940 Před měsícem +158

    I know that bridge very well in my trucking days and my travels to my friend in Ellisras. This is not the first accident with loss of life. There were many before and lots of people died there. When you reach the top of the pass from the Marken side with a heavy truck or bus get your truck in 1'st gear low range and proceed as slow as possible until you cross the bridge. My personal opinion is that the cause of the accident was a lack of experience and poor driving from the driver of the bus. The barriers on the side of the bridge is irrelevant as you can pass the bridge safely if your vehicle is under control. and if you know the road. My condolences to the families who lost loved ones. Thank you Carte Blanche for this video.

    • @nomthandazokunene6274
      @nomthandazokunene6274 Před měsícem +20

      I suugest u have a discussion with engineers or something to understand the science behind the barriers, the way in which they are built the design and everything is not for decoration there is a reson behind all of that, and u cannot just say is irrelevant without u saying engineering is useless. in a sense maybe view those barriers like a robot and imagine a speeding car passing a red light

    • @errolnkh1776
      @errolnkh1776 Před měsícem +6

      ​@nomthandazokunene6274 I grew up around there, that specific pass and section has been notorious for fatality. It was redone in recent years. When Lephalale was still Elisrass, there was never a weekend without a truck going down there. So to what montenel is saying, the barriers on that section have proven to be regulatory and safety standard check box exercise.

    • @motherofcubs
      @motherofcubs Před měsícem +14

      @Montell I agree with you here Carte Blanche are barking the wrong tree. Even with the barrier stractural integrity intact, there was still gonna be an accident with high speed when driving there. I doubt the driver did the recommended speed of 60, also it was dark which could be a factor. Such is avoidable if you drive slow with caution and experience.

    • @desmondphutieagae7394
      @desmondphutieagae7394 Před měsícem +15

      @@motherofcubs Firstly its called an accident for a reason ,the barrier is there as a fail safe mechanism and to protect, it has its role you cannot dismiss that ,furthermore no matter how safe and experienced you think you are it can happen to you too caused by other factors, stop being dramatic.

    • @xskrym
      @xskrym Před měsícem

      ​@@desmondphutieagae7394calm down, take a deep breath...

  • @onlyeverydaysa5029
    @onlyeverydaysa5029 Před měsícem +56

    Him having the guts to say it wasn't urgent. 🤦🏾‍♀️💔 South Africa is really becoming a joke.

    • @user-di7mm7jv5t
      @user-di7mm7jv5t Před měsícem +2

      Sometimes silence is golden rather than to embarras oneself as well as the employer.. fixing wasn't urgent!!!😮

  • @SmilingCrescentMoon-io9px
    @SmilingCrescentMoon-io9px Před měsícem +47

    I'm just amazed that even to this day the barrier of the bridge still hasnt been fixed after so many accidents and deaths in the last 3 years

    • @beewest5704
      @beewest5704 Před měsícem +2

      They do not care about pls lives. So sad.

  • @oagengscotch3111
    @oagengscotch3111 Před měsícem +15

    even today I still feel enormous pain for the lives lost here.. Hearing this man say its not urgent to fix the barriers is a shocker!!

  • @zamubuntukani1250
    @zamubuntukani1250 Před měsícem +88

    My conclusion is ,in Africa maintenance left the group😕

    • @Lord_Submissive
      @Lord_Submissive Před měsícem

      @@zamubuntukani1250 this

    • @KD-us9jm
      @KD-us9jm Před měsícem +3

      Yep, people would rather eat the maintenance money.

    • @MoAfrika-Afrika
      @MoAfrika-Afrika Před měsícem +1

      So true, in Africa maintenance was last done properly 30 years ago. You can't even trust that it's going to be properly going forward.

  • @simonemagielies3174
    @simonemagielies3174 Před měsícem +2

    Thank you carte Blanche for tackling the things that matter.

  • @mafhungotshiwandalani1677
    @mafhungotshiwandalani1677 Před měsícem +19

    No one is saying the driver is a saint, but if the bridge was well maintained it would've have contained the bus within the road.

    • @CMD4WP
      @CMD4WP Před měsícem +1

      How do you know that?, him being on his way to Moria, I am confident that he is one now.

    • @Gunzoski
      @Gunzoski Před 14 dny

      ⁠remember the speed of the bus + the weight of the bus + the conditions of the road + other factors like weather, tire thread and point of impact plays a bigger role in the accident than the barrier itself.
      A solid 1meter thick concrete wall would have most likely stopped them if they hit it head on at 50km/h. BUT people forget to take into account that the weight of the bus could possibly make it that the bus would squash into itself.
      Like there’s so many factors to take into account.
      Just me judging by the barrier on the opposite side? I don’t think it would have stopped it even if they were traveling at 30km/h upon impact.

  • @doskidafire3064
    @doskidafire3064 Před měsícem +9

    Condolences to the families who have lost their loved one, we can argue about barriers and speed up until kingdom come but we will never replace the lives lost..
    Thank u cart blance for giving these families closure..may thier souls continue to rest peacefully

  • @mahlakoviolet7801
    @mahlakoviolet7801 Před měsícem +32

    Roads in limpopo are horrible especially the issue with Potholes without warning signs.

  • @Kaveman.
    @Kaveman. Před měsícem +6

    As a civil engineer, I would say that the possibility of snagging is a possibility but as tragic as the situation is, the SANRAL official is correct in saying the proclaimation that the cause of the bus going over the barrier was a result of snagging on exposed concrete reinforcement is speculative at best, whether or not a thorough civil engineering forensic analysis was not undertaken.
    Any large enough object taller than the barrier will tumble over if it strikes the barrier at a sufficient speed and at a specific angle. By my rough estimations, the bus-trailer needs to collide with the concrete barrier at an actual speed of 14 - 30 km\h minimum. It doesn't take much
    MATH LOGIC & REASONING:
    Think about the weight of the objects at play here: a heavy vehicle (+- 45 seater touring bus) carrying 45 people (assuming 25% of them are children between 8 and 12) and say ten (arbitrary assumption) 47kg full gas tanks are a total of 21 772kg (heavy "luxury" type) + 2 400kg (assuming a childish 30kg on avg) + (80*10) = 24 972 kg. This is massive!
    If we assume:
    - the barrier is at a height of 1070mm (the minimum for 18-wheeler trucks)
    - the center of mass (COM) of the bus and trailer is approximately halfway up the height of the bus (around 1.5 meters above the ground)
    - the bus's impact with the barrier generates a horizontal force at the COM level
    - the barrier is immovable and therefore acts as a pivot point.
    We can only estimate, the collision angle depends on the geometry of the hairpin turn and the direction from which the bus approaches the concrete barrier.
    Then using Kinetic Energy = Potential Energy we can roughly estimate the speed the bus would need to travel to tip over, but accounting for road surface friction (actual velocity = friction coeff.* speed estimate), and that when the bus strikes the barrier, it generates an angular momentum (1/3* m*L^2) around the the barrier. For the bus to tumble over the barrier, the angular momentum must be sufficient to overcome the gravitational torque (mgh) acting on it.
    When I do the math, depending on friction coeff and bus mass (personal luggage is too much of an unknown to account for), I get estimates ranging from 14.4 to 27.36 km\h. If my logic was correct, the SANRAL official was being logical. The bus may have been speeding and if so those barriers were never going to save those poor people. Snaaging as causality is indeed speculative, the steel would need to jut out and would need to be jagged and pulled out of place, but the video footage does not show this. If it were so, I suspect Carte Blanche would have seen this and included the footage.

  • @tebogot_1
    @tebogot_1 Před měsícem +20

    It is so shameful how people where blaming the leader of the St. Engenas zcc church without investigating what might have caused the accident.
    RIP to those who lost their lives.

    • @MM-jx5rj
      @MM-jx5rj Před měsícem

      I think it's always the case to say it's sacrifices or rituals when lot of church people die, we as people we must learn that death is there and no one is immune.

  • @JustAThought155
    @JustAThought155 Před měsícem +9

    Very respectful episode.❤

  • @terencemasilela9339
    @terencemasilela9339 Před měsícem +41

    That Sanral Regional Manager is Zimbabwean and is very incompetent , cheap labour on sanral side .we need qualified South African personal in key positions at all times. he says fixing road the was not urgent Gross incompetence😔😔😔

    • @saddingtonmangena1241
      @saddingtonmangena1241 Před měsícem +7

      That's baseless assumption, accept your roads and your people without blaming us

    • @alborica8113
      @alborica8113 Před měsícem +1

      I am south African and can confirm that South Africa are way worse
      we've got all this university qualifications but still incompetent

    • @Lord_Submissive
      @Lord_Submissive Před měsícem +4

      Who ever he is or where ever his from he must step down

    • @mashobane6177
      @mashobane6177 Před měsícem +4

      ​​​​@@alborica8113 I would say South Africans are way better, by judging the look of these two countries, Zim and SA. South Africa is in a better state than Zimbabwe. If Zimbabweans are the ones that are better than that will mean South Africans must direct their country to the same level of Zimbabwe, and that will be a better level according to you.

    • @tebzamoyaga6823
      @tebzamoyaga6823 Před měsícem +2

      @@terencemasilela9339 i never met an South African named Progress(thats a Zimbabwean name) but again i never seen a Zimbabwean person with the surname hlahla unless if he stole it.

  • @servingcant
    @servingcant Před měsícem +55

    As a Motswana this accident affected us and was a huge loss. Hearing that Sanral guy speak with such arrogance and incompetence is why Batswana aren’t fond of Zimbabweans. He has no respect for lives lost.

    • @nigeljakopo526
      @nigeljakopo526 Před měsícem +16

      @@servingcant where does Zimbabwe come in now? 😭🤔

    • @archiefordsikoti5848
      @archiefordsikoti5848 Před měsícem +3

      Be comforted my brother.But there are many factors there.The route was wrong.The driver was too young.The bridge had damage.I also don't put overspeeding out of the equation.

    • @servingcant
      @servingcant Před měsícem +11

      @@nigeljakopo526Progress Hlahla the regional manager is from Zimbabwe. And he was being very insensitive.

    • @brandonstilinskit3924
      @brandonstilinskit3924 Před měsícem

      Spot on

    • @waltershara5336
      @waltershara5336 Před měsícem +2

      What has Zimbabwe done

  • @mrvugo1
    @mrvugo1 Před měsícem +10

    That regional manager shows incompetency at it's highest level.

    • @khutsokoena450
      @khutsokoena450 Před 24 dny +1

      @@mrvugo1 probably got the job through comradeship connections

  • @Keelansmusic
    @Keelansmusic Před měsícem +16

    I feel so bad for the family who have lost there love one

  • @tshepo2387
    @tshepo2387 Před měsícem +62

    This guy from SANRAL said it's not important to fix the bridge 💔.

    • @joshberith
      @joshberith Před měsícem +10

      He surely shouldn't hold that position 🙄

    • @phumie2byn907
      @phumie2byn907 Před měsícem +8

      His accent is not giving S.A., he is just keeeping the seat warm.

    • @zamile7112
      @zamile7112 Před měsícem +3

      He is not serious... I'm shocked he said that, nonchalantly so... My goodness!

    • @SitholeFabregas
      @SitholeFabregas Před měsícem +2

      His english sounds like my fellow zimbabwean,

    • @tebogomooka6826
      @tebogomooka6826 Před 28 dny

      Thats what you get from Employing foreigners

  • @KaraboModishane
    @KaraboModishane Před měsícem +7

    How ironic is it that the SANRAL manager's name is Progress. But yet no progress has been in fixing the bridge

  • @raynammereki4142
    @raynammereki4142 Před 27 dny +1

    Thank you for documenting this painful incident. I, for one, thought the bus caused the damage to the side wall.

  • @marky5493
    @marky5493 Před měsícem +79

    Everyone is talking about the broken barrier but a barrier is NOT needed if youre in control of your speed. The real problem on our roads in general is inexperienced drivers. That's the honest truth.

    • @Masterrunescapeer
      @Masterrunescapeer Před měsícem +25

      Yes and no, accidents happen, sometimes things like bus breaks heat up and it can't slow down properly anymore etc.
      These barriers are there to minimize loss of life, and it failed, irrelevant of whether there was speeding, and should have been fixed.

    • @desmondphutieagae7394
      @desmondphutieagae7394 Před měsícem +7

      @@Masterrunescapeer Spot on

    • @careerjungle739
      @careerjungle739 Před měsícem +11

      Are you saying every driver should magically be experienced? That is impossible, the roads should be safe even for inexperienced drivers.

    • @gregwoolley6105
      @gregwoolley6105 Před měsícem +1

      If you understand the causal factors from a safety point of view there's a few potententially unsafe factors.
      Driver inexperience of the route .
      Potential speeding.
      Bus mechanical status.
      Insufficient containerization.
      Educate yourselves on safety factors and unsafe acts..

    • @marky5493
      @marky5493 Před měsícem +2

      @@careerjungle739 no, they cant become magically experienced, you're right. but to put other people lives in your hands through your inexperience is another thing.
      Ask yourself if you had a life threatening heart problem are you still going to be demanding to have an inexperienced heart surgeon, because they somehow gotta get that magical experience on someone. a death is a death at the end of the day. right?

  • @ennytamara926
    @ennytamara926 Před měsícem +8

    Thanks for the update

  • @user-qj5dd5fp1m
    @user-qj5dd5fp1m Před měsícem +20

    My little knowledge of physics tells me that the professor didn't consider the hight of the bus in relation to the barriers. Maybe they must increase the hight of the barriers

    • @TheStarwar5
      @TheStarwar5 Před měsícem +4

      It’s not perfect system, that would be insane to contend. But some of the crash test footage showed large buses . I wonder if it was maintained could this horrible tragedy have been averted

    • @lalalovemelots4391
      @lalalovemelots4391 Před měsícem

      @@user-qj5dd5fp1m I can assure you that every scenario is thoroughly considered in engineering! It’s not perfect by any means, however, hundreds of tests are conducted to ensure road safety.

    • @Phiri-wu1eq
      @Phiri-wu1eq Před měsícem +1

      its not about the height of the barriers, but mainly the quality of the material used to build those barriers and the way they are structured, i bet there was no consultation with the civil engineers.

    • @davinmars5177
      @davinmars5177 Před 21 dnem

      ​@@user-qj5dd5fp1m I don't think the purpose of the barrier is dependent on the height (or centre of gravity as you are looking at it). The aim is to redirect the momentum back to the road, that is it must cover the wheel height of most vehicles. Should it be higher then it becomes a problem itself, imagine driving into a tall solid wall. Plus there's 2 barriers, both of which the government failed to fix. There's definitely no sure way of knowing if the bus wouldn't have tipped over though.

    • @Gunzoski
      @Gunzoski Před 14 dny +1

      ⁠remember the speed of the bus + the weight of the bus + the conditions of the road + other factors like weather, tire thread and point of impact plays a bigger role in the accident than the barrier itself.
      A solid 1meter thick concrete wall would have most likely stopped them if they hit it head on at 50km/h. BUT people forget to take into account that the weight of the bus could possibly make it that the bus would squash into itself.
      Like there’s so many factors to take into account
      Side note: doing physics and pure maths paid off. The first time I’ve needed it in my life since 2017

  • @wherestwenty9
    @wherestwenty9 Před měsícem +59

    Why is the Regional Manager a Zimbabwean ..that position should be occupied by a qualified SOUTH AFRICAN citizen..not a foreigner!

    • @Ritesh-yy1zr
      @Ritesh-yy1zr Před měsícem +12

      Not surprising. SA will have a foreign president one day

    • @saddingtonmangena1241
      @saddingtonmangena1241 Před měsícem +6

      @@wherestwenty9 how did you know that he is a Zimbabwean? Maybe I missed a crucial pointer that suggests that he is a Zimbabwean

    • @blacgaz6419
      @blacgaz6419 Před měsícem +1

      @@saddingtonmangena1241 lol

    • @avuazahc1966
      @avuazahc1966 Před měsícem +12

      @@saddingtonmangena1241 accent says it all

    • @ethaniel_the_1st
      @ethaniel_the_1st Před měsícem +12

      @@avuazahc1966 you've clearly never heard a venda accent before🤣

  • @ValentineButale
    @ValentineButale Před měsícem +11

    This SANRAL guy... too indifferent. People have lost loved ones and he's here talking about "not urgent."

  • @maropengrampyapedi938
    @maropengrampyapedi938 Před měsícem +56

    Why is this guy head of sanral North region,how can he say that it's not urgent.

    • @garyschei
      @garyschei Před měsícem +4

      Cadre

    • @THE_TRUTH_WHISPERER
      @THE_TRUTH_WHISPERER Před měsícem

      Because he is a foreigner from Zimbabwe, he doesn't care about any South african life.

    • @marimbaani9317
      @marimbaani9317 Před měsícem +3

      Thats what happens when people get employed thru Cronyism not competence, im sure thats how 60% of jobs are filled and we wonder why africa is a mess

  • @tokoloshi214
    @tokoloshi214 Před měsícem +11

    Incompetence carries a stench

  • @francoisdvanderwesthuizen
    @francoisdvanderwesthuizen Před měsícem +5

    I do agree that the barries shouldve kept the bus on the road but busses tend to have a high center of gravity and I guess the bus could've done maybe close to 100kph at the time of the crash, I believe it would've went over regardless if the barrier were brand new. In my opinion that barrier is way too low for the circumstances it is in. Yes, "Jersey" barriers do work and they come in different shapes and sizes so I think its the wrong shape and size for this bridge but then again one cannot just go and build a impenetrable stone wall on the bridge because bridges can only take that much static weight. My heart goes out to the families and their whole village for their loss.

  • @isaacthom6604
    @isaacthom6604 Před měsícem +8

    RIP to all who lost their lives,,, the first major cause of the accident is allowing a 28 year old to driver a bus especially to tht long distance.

  • @zamile7112
    @zamile7112 Před měsícem +4

    This is painful to watch, especially realizing the barriers were not there... Makes you wonder how many unreported souls have perished there that would have survived had the barriers been erected stronger.

  • @stewmzhimself3907
    @stewmzhimself3907 Před měsícem +9

    but Limpopo's service delivery is some of the worst in the country.

  • @THE_TRUTH_WHISPERER
    @THE_TRUTH_WHISPERER Před měsícem +22

    That's what you get when you hire a Zimbabwean national to deal with South African roads. The answer from SANRAL was filled with more loopholes and being defensive than replying as someone who is an engineer. We have South Africans who are qualified looking for jobs and are able to prioritize maintenance, but this Hlahla is shifting the blame instead of making a heartfelt apology and acknowledgment of mismanagement of our resources. It's time we hire South Africans to deal with our own issues. That Professor just addressed it all!

    • @archiefordsikoti5848
      @archiefordsikoti5848 Před měsícem

      @@THE_TRUTH_WHISPERER Why everytime you include Zimbabweans.

    • @KD-us9jm
      @KD-us9jm Před měsícem +3

      This has nothing to do with him being Zimbabwean. How many structures and buildings in CBDs have not been maintained under the watch of the government ? this thing of blaming foreigners all the times when there are problems is very toxic and promotes unnecessary hate.

    • @cc35506
      @cc35506 Před měsícem

      Also understand he has to maintain a defensive position until the accident report is out. Admitting something on camera will bw used as evidence. Otherwise as other experienced drivers are saying its not about the barriers but speed and control.

  • @dephine8815
    @dephine8815 Před měsícem +4

    So sad .may their souls RIP. May the Lord comfort the bereaved families

  • @ryanmorgann
    @ryanmorgann Před měsícem +19

    SANRAL MANAGER IS GIVING ZIM

    • @UkraineWarUpdates710
      @UkraineWarUpdates710 Před měsícem +6

      totally not one of us🤞i was very annoyed when he said fixing the road wasn't urgent.

    • @thapelomakgere5145
      @thapelomakgere5145 Před měsícem

      my thinking as well...

    • @patakijoseph3995
      @patakijoseph3995 Před měsícem +1

      Hlahla is a Pedi clan and they don't have that accent. A further skills and resident audit should be done.

    • @avuazahc1966
      @avuazahc1966 Před měsícem

      @@patakijoseph3995 Accent

    • @vhamusanda
      @vhamusanda Před měsícem

      ​@avuazahc1966 true the accent is giving Shona

  • @schalkcarstens3324
    @schalkcarstens3324 Před měsícem +8

    This is so sad, however, speed could have been the problem. Never the less, the bridge was not maintained after numerous accidents. Who does one blame? I know. Say it as it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @johan416
    @johan416 Před měsícem +15

    Before the turn is said 50km/h...

  • @natesnautical
    @natesnautical Před měsícem +2

    Cry our Beloved country...

  • @SDav21
    @SDav21 Před měsícem +6

    The roads to Limpopo and in it are terrible. The potholes are massive and signage non existent.

  • @khensanimashego6671
    @khensanimashego6671 Před měsícem +21

    Whether the barrier was adequate at the time or not...the bus was speeding and it lies with the driver..I am sorry.

    • @motherofcubs
      @motherofcubs Před měsícem +5

      Hence I am saying here Carte Blanche are really barking up wrong tree. The presenter drove there with the required speed as she was anticipating the curves ahead and she is still alive, even if barriers were maintained and one drives over the required limit in darkness the probability of an accident becomes higher

    • @GiSo81
      @GiSo81 Před měsícem

      What i get from the interview is that the accident was bound to happen if speed limit was not observed. But with proper guard rails, the bus must have been contained within the bridge, not plunge down or overturn.

  • @HamiltonOnCars
    @HamiltonOnCars Před měsícem +4

    That bridge has been claiming lives for the past 30yrs or so.

  • @tshepobanda5714
    @tshepobanda5714 Před měsícem +1

    ……and why did I watch this💔💔💔
    Just when my little heart was beginning to heal 😭

  • @jeandrevanrensburg886
    @jeandrevanrensburg886 Před měsícem +42

    Barriers would not have PREVENTED the accident as the bus had hit the barrier. Could have been less devastating for sure but not prevented completely. Just my opinion

    • @jasonbaxter1608
      @jasonbaxter1608 Před měsícem +3

      The 'Accident' is referring to the car flipping over the bridge and 40+ people losing their lives. Properly maintained barriers may have prevented that 'accident'. But obviously not the original crash into the barriers

    • @RandB_Aquatics
      @RandB_Aquatics Před měsícem +5

      @@jasonbaxter1608 yes but the bus had gas tanks that where going to explode still after crushing so barrier was nit going to save the people but the drop

    • @Masterrunescapeer
      @Masterrunescapeer Před měsícem +2

      Why would the gas tanks always explode?

    • @jeandrevanrensburg886
      @jeandrevanrensburg886 Před měsícem +1

      @@Masterrunescapeer did i mention gas tanks?

    • @garyschei
      @garyschei Před měsícem +3

      @@RandB_Aquatics You watch too many American movies 🤣
      Not everything explodes with an impact.

  • @user-qu6ec8oy2t
    @user-qu6ec8oy2t Před měsícem +8

    progress hlahla is from Zimbabwe , no qualification for him to have that position. i know him

  • @InnocentFlamingoBirds-or2yc
    @InnocentFlamingoBirds-or2yc Před měsícem +3

    That road looks very scary 😮

  • @bonganimalasa4277
    @bonganimalasa4277 Před měsícem +3

    May all rest in peace

  • @KradenkoZA
    @KradenkoZA Před měsícem +3

    Like most accidents it's never just one reason. Road laws in Africa is more like actual guidelines and for this bus to even make contact with the barrier means it was going way faster than it should have. What is very concerning, even in this video, is how people still drive complex roads like this on their brakes. You need to always use your gears when making such steep descents. Did an interesting exercise last week. Did 10.6km to my destination and counted 18 traffic violations. People are no longer obedient to traffic laws.

  •  Před 28 dny +1

    Those barriers are too low.

  • @Yesterdie02
    @Yesterdie02 Před měsícem +2

    30 YEARS OF AND NEGLIGENCE

  • @user-zq8fk8mo6s
    @user-zq8fk8mo6s Před měsícem +7

    I wish you could investigate the Georgesvalley road outside Tzaneen, just outside Polokwane. The potholes there can swallow a whole truck, mind you it's for heavy vehicles but it is neglected like a ghost town

    • @letsgo8814
      @letsgo8814 Před měsícem

      @@user-zq8fk8mo6s 🤣yeah that 1 of sa worst roads...

    • @kayzee5432
      @kayzee5432 Před měsícem

      you are right, i hope it can been well maintained because trucks use it daily

  • @SCELO_MYEZA.
    @SCELO_MYEZA. Před měsícem +32

    That table talks with the Regional manager of SANRAL was intense and straightforward, that exactly how these people should be interrogated... 11:16 .

    • @DaChap269
      @DaChap269 Před měsícem +7

      Yeah but the lack of remorse and accountability breaks my heart

    • @Keitumetsemulaudzi
      @Keitumetsemulaudzi Před měsícem

      @@DaChap269 that guy has no brain honestly

  • @puna7616
    @puna7616 Před měsícem +2

    I’m in tears 😭

  • @kamobello
    @kamobello Před měsícem +3

    Hello Carte Blanche, can you please give us an update on the Boksburg Explosion victims?

  • @masonwabetuntulwana3429
    @masonwabetuntulwana3429 Před měsícem +11

    Had the driver followed speed limit which is adhering to the law then this would not happen, Can we for once not blame the incorrect parties.

  • @BethuelThabangMahlonoko
    @BethuelThabangMahlonoko Před měsícem +6

    I heard there were gas cylinders on the trailer 😢did they do a safety check on them?
    Eish, according to me Sanral should have repaired the barrier as an audit finding 😢

  • @Falkenbach22
    @Falkenbach22 Před měsícem +15

    Unfortunately it is the drivers fault, speeding seems to be the culprit when you do a public driving permit these are things you should know,again unfortunately I see on a daily basis how big vehicles speed without regard for our traffic laws.

  • @CONNELL19511216
    @CONNELL19511216 Před měsícem +7

    Progress? More like regress

  • @SnapFlash
    @SnapFlash Před měsícem +1

    from what has been presented , i believe the family can take legal action against SANRAL and all those responsible for the maintanance of the bridge.

  • @user-mz4bn3mp2x
    @user-mz4bn3mp2x Před 12 dny

    Thumbs up to narrater of the program, she knw her job.

  • @_MPN_
    @_MPN_ Před měsícem +1

    This road should be closed as it is too dangerous

  • @kevinbromfield7595
    @kevinbromfield7595 Před měsícem +2

    Maintenance work has left South Africa completely, most roads are in a bad state. Also look at our rail system, Eskom, the list is endless......

  • @capercaillie2603
    @capercaillie2603 Před měsícem +2

    People need to take resposibility towards their behaviour on the roads, the road is too steep and clearly the bridge is so curved certainly it needs caution ⚠️ driving down towards it in order to make a safe turn. The tyre mark left on the tar clearly shows that driver had a challenge making a smooth turn to pass the bridge due to a higher speed unsuitable to do so and nature took advantage of that, velocity resulted in gravity pulling the bus over the barriers. We dont know how much familiar he was with the route, but from what it's been said in this report they typically use the other route to and from their destination, but they took a different route this time.

  • @SuperOwiza
    @SuperOwiza Před měsícem +9

    Sanral manager needs to go back to preprimary school how can he utter such nonsense lives were lost 😒 he says its not urgent to fix it you're fired

  • @feliciaswart1218
    @feliciaswart1218 Před měsícem +6

    If the manager of Sanral has all these engineering degrees, why isn't the answer the same as Dr Roodt?? I mean they should've gotten the same results? One has the tests to back it, the other one is sitting there fumbling arrogantly. Also can we mention the spelling error on the Sanral board just before the interview, speaks of the professionalism....

    • @peetschabort1080
      @peetschabort1080 Před měsícem

      'Northen' . . . 'Northern'. Small things make perfection but perfection is no small thing.

  • @russellmcphee72
    @russellmcphee72 Před měsícem +5

    Progress has an apt name.

  • @spitoinkr
    @spitoinkr Před měsícem +7

    The barrier would have helped if the bus was traveling at 60-70kmh. But from those skidmarks on the bridge I would say that the speed might have been higher than 100kmh. A loaded bus will have a centre of gravity at least 900mm higher than the height of the barrier and with the excessive speed that weight of the loaded bus, above the height of the barrier would topple the bus over with no problem...even with a fully intact and completed barrier. What you should be looking at is if there was sufficient warning of the danger, on top of the pass and further down the pass. I have driven heavy trucks all over RSA for over 15years and many of the passes will have warning signs at positions where it is already too late to slow down a fully loaded truck once you encounter the sign.
    Also, speeding buses are a reality and if the drivers are not familiar with a spesific dangerous route, it will certainly lead to disaster.

    • @KD-us9jm
      @KD-us9jm Před měsícem

      True. As someone who have travelled on cross boarder long distance buses , I have noticed that they sometimes speed a lot. On the other hand, I have also travelled with Intercape (both local and cross boarder) , and they really stick to the heavy vehicle speed limits and do not cut corners.

  • @michaelforbes4753
    @michaelforbes4753 Před měsícem +4

    As you can see that bus came down with speed and you will see the imprint off the tire mark applied brakes shows you thats one front wheel was working the rest off wheels was not working. So that bus was not roadworthy.

  • @mawazoaliselemani
    @mawazoaliselemani Před měsícem +5

    Why you try hard to point a blame on barrier?is driver a saint?

    • @thabingxakata
      @thabingxakata Před měsícem +2

      Nobody is blaming the barrier, they are saying had the barrier been properly maintained, the bus had high chances of not falling over the bridge, not that the accident would not have happened. Also asking if the driver was a saint is irrelevant because nobody in earth is a saint. We don't know what led to the bus crashing, so when we do know maybe you can start blaming the driver.

    • @mawazoaliselemani
      @mawazoaliselemani Před měsícem +1

      @@thabingxakata .yooh,I can hear and follow her interview properly she is trying to get people to believe this accident is government fault Dude!to her the barrier was provoking the driver to accident 🤣 let's all of Us blame barrier for being so provocative!

    • @thabingxakata
      @thabingxakata Před měsícem +1

      @@mawazoaliselemani clearly you weren't following because you're hearing what you want to hear. Firstly that road is a high accident zone, even the so called government marked it. It's a high accident zone because the road is steep and the bend is sharp. The same government put double barriers there because they know cars are likely to swerve and go off the bridge. Not once did she say the barrier caused the actual accident, she said the maintenance of the barriers could have stopped the bus from going off the bridge because thats the job of the barriers on the bridge.

  • @tinyikoshibambo8167
    @tinyikoshibambo8167 Před měsícem +11

    Is giving Zimbabwe this one…

  • @RandB_Aquatics
    @RandB_Aquatics Před měsícem +7

    speed is the main issue though judging from the fact that the bus crossed the oncoming lane failing to go thru the curve safely

  • @lxonthemix834
    @lxonthemix834 Před měsícem +1

    Please upload the full shows 😢

  • @DIY-Teacher-Guy
    @DIY-Teacher-Guy Před měsícem

    So terribly sorry for all the lives lost!
    The upward sloping bases of these concrete barriers will encourage a wheel to climb up the face and cause a vehicle to either overturn or climb up and over.
    The barriers should have a horizontal lip ontop to contain a vehicle but prevent Tyre contact with the vertical surfaces. I am sure this will save many lives.

  • @mothusiletsatsi3279
    @mothusiletsatsi3279 Před 13 dny

    South African Roads are a total disgrace!! What is SANRAL doing to address this Horrible Scenario!!

  • @dikeledimothiba65
    @dikeledimothiba65 Před měsícem +1

    Hawks on Hlahla!!!!! I cannot believe!
    He even said no to "would it have cost too much money to fix the barrier?" Yet RAF has to pay 500k/dependent for each breadwinner that passed.

  • @user-qd1ky4jz9p
    @user-qd1ky4jz9p Před 29 dny

    Sanral must hold accountable for this 😢

  • @MAK_78647
    @MAK_78647 Před měsícem +7

    If the bus was not speeding, the barrier would not have been hit. Does not take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

  • @MoAfrika-Afrika
    @MoAfrika-Afrika Před měsícem +1

    I doubt the drive was too cautious there. When the journalist showed how the road is, I imagined how the bus full of people would easily increase the speed going down and how heavily it can easily push those concrete barriers. I think as much I like Carte Blanche here it's just pushing a wrong move. If the drive was cautious enough, the lives would have been saved. If the drive was alert, he wouldn't even had to go to the safety barriers.

  • @MasekaMokgohloa
    @MasekaMokgohloa Před měsícem +1

    I am shocked Sanral is employing Zimbabweans? How did he get the job ahead of South African?

  • @kb8796
    @kb8796 Před měsícem +2

    That barrier is not safe anymore simply cause the purpose of it was compromise with the accidents happening there and failing to repair it It is SA fault that alot of people have died there. There is a reason for that barriers maintenance is important

  • @sandilesithole9388
    @sandilesithole9388 Před měsícem +2

    1. The hook concept is not convincing from the expert. Excessive speeds will topple a heavy over a barrier (depending on the angle of approach)
    2. The angle of approach from the crash tests is way different (straight line) from what exists in the bridge. We have a curve is the bridge, which is induces a toppling effect
    3. The journalist’s lack of engineering background makes her take anything from the expert - asking more experts would have probably helped
    4. Driver behaviour should improve on our roads

    • @KD-us9jm
      @KD-us9jm Před měsícem

      Thank you for at least have multiple takes at what happened. As much as the SANRAL regional manager had a responsibility to maintain those Barriers , *some* people(not all people) are singling him out as the sole reason why the accident happened just because of his ignorant response when asked about maintaining the barriers.

  • @BonganiSaragee
    @BonganiSaragee Před 26 dny

    This Regional Manager should be investigated further by law.... even the way he speaks & his gestures show no sense of remorse....he's such a psychopath !!!! 😮😮😮

  • @gago-fj7hu
    @gago-fj7hu Před měsícem +2

    I dont agree with the expect,if it was meant to work like he is saying, the first vehicle to fall over,will not have done so! It would have swayed back into the road.

  • @ThembisileMasimula
    @ThembisileMasimula Před 14 dny

    This is sad

  • @floatpoint1050
    @floatpoint1050 Před měsícem +1

    Yes, the road is dangerous, but driver negligence is also an issue. SANRAL is also arrogant in this issue. Cockups everywhere

  • @BrightszGroup
    @BrightszGroup Před 19 dny

    The roads of South Africa is in a terrible condition. Very unsafe to drive on. Just look at the Dullstroom road or the Origstad road. Patholes cause many accidents and cars are damaged. I sincerely hope that more attention will be given to the roads in South Africa.

  • @marcusntapolebelo1551
    @marcusntapolebelo1551 Před měsícem +3

    Some of us use this road almost every day. We see accidents there once or twice a year, it's norm. also wild animals (lions) roam around at night there

    • @rsamom
      @rsamom Před měsícem

      Wow lions😮

  • @CaseyWiggin
    @CaseyWiggin Před měsícem

    RIP EVERYONE

  • @EliasMagesh
    @EliasMagesh Před měsícem +1

    so sad , we take pictures there when we have weddings

  • @nnditshenimichaelmakwarela4026

    This is very sad... The SANRAL Manager is being defensive and showing no remorse. They must fix these things in time😢😢
    May the deceased rest in peace❤

  • @MOEMTEE
    @MOEMTEE Před měsícem

    THAT BROWN AND GREEN LV JERSEY THE LADY IS WEARING AT 13:45 IS 🔥🔥🔥

  • @kitsokeagakwa5921
    @kitsokeagakwa5921 Před měsícem

    So sad😢

  • @user-vl1wx9cw1q
    @user-vl1wx9cw1q Před měsícem +1

    I am Venda and I can confirm that tge sanral guy isn't venda but Zimbabwean 😅 hence the ignorance

  • @natedengineering
    @natedengineering Před měsícem +1

    This sandral guy is not from around.

  • @basilrichards4205
    @basilrichards4205 Před měsícem +24

    Carte Blanche concentrate on speeding ......Sanral cannot prevent accidents when drivers are reckless. Poor show Carte Blanche

    • @p.sthedrunkgamer6424
      @p.sthedrunkgamer6424 Před měsícem +14

      while that's true, what if it was a mechanical failure, that's what the barriers are meant to do, to help try to redirect a speeding vehicle, if that was not the case then they wouldn't be there in first place would they? so whether its speeding because of brake failure or recklessness, its still speeding past the required limit to safely curve and barriers are are there as a last fail safe, so if they are damages then there's a chance that that might have been a factor to the vehicle going over

    • @jasonbaxter1608
      @jasonbaxter1608 Před měsícem +6

      11:21 The Regional manager says it could have been a vehicle malfunction. The barrier should keep the car on the road even if the brakes fail. (Well at least that's how the barriers are supposed to work) I get that Reckless Drivers are a problem, but I think SANRAL ignorantly dismissing public safety is a bigger one.

    • @sibusisomthuliseni1558
      @sibusisomthuliseni1558 Před měsícem

      @@basilrichards4205 well said

    • @khanyajele1073
      @khanyajele1073 Před měsícem

      Sorry? Why are the barriers there? What's their purpose?

    • @rock882josh7
      @rock882josh7 Před měsícem

      Problem was allowing a 28 year old to drive a bus with gas tanks and trailer

  • @lucasshokane1145
    @lucasshokane1145 Před měsícem

    Sad 😔 story 😢 indeed

  • @cosmicenigmarevealed
    @cosmicenigmarevealed Před 24 dny

    The nerves.

  • @user-ln5pl6my7i
    @user-ln5pl6my7i Před měsícem

    Interesting findings

  • @jay1900
    @jay1900 Před měsícem +1

    Sanral guy is a Zimbabwean, whaaat???

  • @sabbiestrp3385
    @sabbiestrp3385 Před měsícem

    Next we will cry with that Bridge rusting metal bridge at Steelport 😓

  • @rose-marieackerman8351

    Speed!!!!!!!