What if Germany unified in 1850? AOTR2 LORE VIDEO

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  • čas přidán 14. 09. 2023
  • What if the 1848 Revolutions happened differently? That is what Aftershocks of the Revolutions Redux, a Hearts of Iron IV mod and a comprehensive alternate history timeline dares to answer.
    In this video, we will be looking at how a single point of divergence, "Nicholas Gamble", cascades into a radically different outcome for Germany, and Europe.
    Subscribe to stay tuned for more Lore Breakdowns of popular Alternate History Scenarios, and original timelines made by me! Your estranged Lore Dad!
    This is my first video, so any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated in the comments!
    Links:
    AOTR2 Discord: / discord
    LoreDad's Discord: / discord
    Credits:
    "Compilation of QBAM Historical Maps" - Public Google Doc, Various
    docs.google.com/document/d/14...
    Lore Authors - Jubs, Nicol, Loredad
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  • @nutfromvs3933
    @nutfromvs3933 Před 9 měsíci +64

    Kinda surreal to see all this coming to fruition! Loved witnessing every step along the way and super happy to see this video!

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 9 měsíci +4

      Thanks a lot Nut! I feel the same way. Really appreciated your feedback. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @bukanIqbal375
    @bukanIqbal375 Před 8 měsíci +57

    I love how this video is about what if Germany was united in 1850 and the video is 18:50 long, lol

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 8 měsíci +13

      Wow that was completely unintentional, good eye!

  • @shadowderper8930
    @shadowderper8930 Před 7 měsíci +19

    I LOVE how you actually made a mod with your alt history video! I needed these things!

  • @Nallo500
    @Nallo500 Před 7 měsíci +20

    Very interesting scenario. I will definitely download the mod later and play it!

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Thanks for your comment!
      The mod is still in development, feel free to check out our discord!

  • @JPPAS
    @JPPAS Před 4 měsíci +11

    hungary capitulating russia is crazy

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 4 měsíci +2

      It’s definitely not Hungary alone! Wallachian led Romania movement, Serbia, and German troops all backed up the Hungarians. Hungary alone wouldn’t have managed it

  • @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
    @karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Před 5 měsíci +4

    The gutter crown comment wasnt his direct response, the response went along the line that hes honored but he cant accept it without the approval of his brother monarchs. The gutter crown comment was added as publicity as the parliament fell

  • @sicdrake1627
    @sicdrake1627 Před 7 měsíci +13

    Me as a hungarian saw Greater Hungary in alt history 🤩

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Hungary becomes a major power in this scenario! I hope you check out our discord!

    • @v1be2007
      @v1be2007 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@LoreDad this ending is also quite nice for us poles too lol

  • @Axolotl3823
    @Axolotl3823 Před 9 měsíci +14

    Love the editing, and with a great and fun scenario. Good job

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @synthviking844
    @synthviking844 Před 8 měsíci +44

    Tommy says hallo

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 8 měsíci +9

      Hallo Tommy hallo synth Viking!

  • @KiraiKatsuji
    @KiraiKatsuji Před 6 měsíci +2

    I would love for it to get a part 2

  • @dr.vikyll7466
    @dr.vikyll7466 Před 8 dny

    The Arkduke, the leader of 2 individuals of every species

  • @nexustheninja1927
    @nexustheninja1927 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Im assuming this is a hoi4 mod right? If so this is flippin awesome.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +4

      Yes, it will be and thank you! Check out the discord to stay up to date with development!

    • @nexustheninja1927
      @nexustheninja1927 Před 7 měsíci

      @@LoreDad I sure will :D
      Such an unusual, but welcome premise for a Alt Hist scenario. You may have a shot at the next Kaiserriech with this.

  • @user-zo7ql4gg8o
    @user-zo7ql4gg8o Před 9 měsíci +3

    Good work!! You have a great voice for the narration!

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 9 měsíci

      Thank you so much!

  • @princebunnynutz8082
    @princebunnynutz8082 Před 7 měsíci +4

    How did South and west germany, along with hungary, manage to hold off prussia, north italy, russia and france. I could understand if it was just prussia, france and italy, but including russia makes this a complete cerb-stomping of the central powers.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks for your comment. There are different factors that are playing into the central powered victory that aren’t covered in this video because it was specifically focusing on Germany. I will be making more videos to help explain these factors. Hope you have a good day

    • @princebunnynutz8082
      @princebunnynutz8082 Před 7 měsíci

      @@LoreDad okay! Hope you have a nice day too

  • @groggroggus7298
    @groggroggus7298 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Nice video

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you!

    • @groggroggus7298
      @groggroggus7298 Před 7 měsíci

      np fam thought you would need it dawwggggggg ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤fr fr homie@@LoreDad

  • @hardbassmonkey
    @hardbassmonkey Před 6 měsíci +4

    Does Germany have colonies?
    Also, is the city of Dresden split?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes, Germany has colonies
      Dresden is split
      Thanks for your comment, be sure to check out the discord!

  • @lama_101
    @lama_101 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Love how much love was put here

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thanks so much Lama! I really did do my best to capture the world that me and my friends made together in the best way possible. I am glad you could see the passion that we all put into it!

  • @rezaganjizadeh4263
    @rezaganjizadeh4263 Před 5 měsíci +2

    There is no way crippled Austria could have beaten Prussia, Bavaria, Denmark and Saxony

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 5 měsíci +2

      As mentioned in my other comment, they weren’t alone

  • @lionstar1992
    @lionstar1992 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Bürgerkrieg not Burgerkrieg Bürger are People in a country Burgers are what you eat

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Thanks for the note! I will be sure to add the umlauts and pronoune it properly next time!

  • @oooshafiqooo
    @oooshafiqooo Před 7 měsíci +2

    Alternative title: Germany but instead of Austria being left out, it was Prussia who were left out

    • @johnshelton1141
      @johnshelton1141 Před 4 měsíci

      Or a German without Austria and without Prussia.

  • @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
    @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug Před 7 měsíci

    This is a big Germany that I can get behind.

  • @lunalingo4461
    @lunalingo4461 Před 5 měsíci +3

    13:10 to 13:16 never in my life did I think I would hear that

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 5 měsíci

      I had to retake the line so many times because I kept saying entente like it was in our history!

    • @lunalingo4461
      @lunalingo4461 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Keep up the good work man, keep posting interesting alt history videos like these. U have also earned urself a sub

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 5 měsíci

      @@lunalingo4461 will do, thanks!

    • @lunalingo4461
      @lunalingo4461 Před 5 měsíci

      @@LoreDad man I just binge watched ur stresa series, god I love this thing man. Please tell me the Soviets win.

  • @Your_Eagle_One
    @Your_Eagle_One Před 20 hodinami

    Hey ! The Lore sounds very cool and id like to play the mod but i cant find it. Is the mod gone?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 16 hodinami

      Mod is in development, discord link in description!

  • @robertmorse3275
    @robertmorse3275 Před 2 měsíci +1

    There just is no way that the north German Confederation losses in that timeline. Prussia by it's self crushed Austria Hungary and the southern German states. Then they crushed frace a few years later. No way they Stand a chance

    • @apineapple3177
      @apineapple3177 Před měsícem +1

      This is not Austria Hungary, as the Hungarian Held Austria from militarizing in addition they lost The Poor Ethnically diverse lands in the east for Rich Industrialize German states and They still have a puppet over Lombard and Venice

  • @rezaganjizadeh4263
    @rezaganjizadeh4263 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Many details ignired like how austria couldn't put down a militia on their own let alone beat another great power with allies who in reality humiliated practically the rest of germany ob their own in 1866

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It isn’t the Hapsburg armies alone, the 1848 revolutionary zeal spreads to the rest of the German states, leading the reactionary alliance not being able to properly organize a counteroffensive
      Thanks for the feedback though

  • @Drief229
    @Drief229 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Very nice video my friend!

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thank you very much!

    • @Drief229
      @Drief229 Před 8 měsíci +1

      You're welcome! I really want to see how you're content will evolve. Keep up the work, you have potential!

  • @StalkerX426
    @StalkerX426 Před 7 měsíci +9

    I just have a one question: why prussia or austria Almost every timeline not in the germany?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +4

      Gotta balance out Europe!
      It wasn’t depicted in this video, but Germany in this timeline was restricted to annex all of Prussia by Britain, because Britain was scared of the economic power of a unified Germany.
      Other alternate history scenarios probably have the same precautions

    • @StalkerX426
      @StalkerX426 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@LoreDad thanks. And the idea:
      What if austro-prussian war never happened?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I will definitely consider a video on that. Thanks a lot!@@StalkerX426

    • @StalkerX426
      @StalkerX426 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@LoreDad *_☭OUR IDEA☭_*

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Da, comrade@@StalkerX426

  • @bloxycola4496
    @bloxycola4496 Před 7 měsíci +3

    how the hell did hungary beat russia

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +3

      There’s a lot more stuff happening off screen so just remember it’s not just Hungary vs Russia

    • @bloxycola4496
      @bloxycola4496 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@LoreDad so who else is invading russia

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +3

      To be revealed ;)@@bloxycola4496

  • @SretroOfTheNortheast
    @SretroOfTheNortheast Před 3 měsíci

    Is ze mod out

  • @paulinalevina9690
    @paulinalevina9690 Před 2 měsíci

    So Dresden is the Berlin of your timeline, right?

  • @porkypinecraig8594
    @porkypinecraig8594 Před 7 měsíci +1

    the mod is not showing up when i search for it on steam

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci

      Mod is still in development, check the description for more info!

  • @mathiaspoelman1493
    @mathiaspoelman1493 Před 7 měsíci

    Will there be a sequel?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yes there will be another lore video after stresa as a series is complete!

    • @mathiaspoelman1493
      @mathiaspoelman1493 Před 4 měsíci

      @@LoreDad One more question: are you going to cover the colonies as well? I am so curious to see how Germany and Prussia would try to expand their Empires overseas. Maybe even Hungary establishes colonies!

  • @jubs5700
    @jubs5700 Před 9 měsíci +2

    AOTRbros we're SO BACK

  • @5nhyfiery
    @5nhyfiery Před 8 měsíci

    da hell🥶

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 8 měsíci

      Hi, I’m guessing by your reaction you aren’t a fan? May I ask why? I’m looking to make the best content I can and any feedback is greatly appreciated

  • @Mr.Viridian
    @Mr.Viridian Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hey dude nice Video but I can't find the mod.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the comment! The mod is in development. You can check out the progress on our discord. Link in the description!

  • @parm2900
    @parm2900 Před 7 měsíci

    It is more likely that Bavaria would have joined the German Confederation than Prussia

  • @taffingtonboathouse5754
    @taffingtonboathouse5754 Před 7 měsíci +1

    6:43 im hungry

  • @ankard4
    @ankard4 Před 4 měsíci

    it look like hoi4 mod pax britanica

  • @PepeChadIsDaGoat
    @PepeChadIsDaGoat Před 7 měsíci +2

    No Romania?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Romanian lore and background can be found on our discord server! Check the description!

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 Před 7 měsíci

    Lore of What if Germany unified in 1850? AOTR2 LORE VIDEO momentum 100

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci

      Uhh, thanks, I think?

  • @cingenedovenaugustus4558
    @cingenedovenaugustus4558 Před měsícem +1

    Ending makes no sense. In that war, Russia is defeated and pushed out of Poland and Baltics. Prussia is also defeated and could as well be blamed for the war. There is literally no reason for the Habsburgs not to annex Prussia. Besides, considering this war started in 1914 like otl, Habsburgs would be the Emperor of the German Confederation for more than half a century. Habsburg and German Nationalists would have common grounds and ambitions by that point. What actually would happen is that Austrians would simply annex the entire Prussian Kingdom and then guarantee the Polish independence.

    • @apineapple3177
      @apineapple3177 Před měsícem

      Balance of power and north General federation Surrendered early In exchange for not getting fully destroyed

    • @cingenedovenaugustus4558
      @cingenedovenaugustus4558 Před měsícem

      @@apineapple3177 And you think Austrians would listen? It goes to my point that the ending made no sense. Conquering Prussia would be the top most priority for the Austrians. They would just refuse surrender. Prussians could be easily blamed for the war.

    • @apineapple3177
      @apineapple3177 Před 3 dny

      @@cingenedovenaugustus4558 The British forced Austria to accept independent Prussia their official reason

  • @m1ntv1p3r9
    @m1ntv1p3r9 Před 7 měsíci

    Burgerkrieg

  • @chrisgaming9567
    @chrisgaming9567 Před 8 měsíci +2

    10:39 So I assume the Paris Commune is pretty much the exact same in this timeline?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 8 měsíci

      It actually had went differently! Its the subject of the next AOTR2 Lore Video!

  • @baronbrummbar8691
    @baronbrummbar8691 Před 7 měsíci +3

    i will be honest ther is no way that this monstrosity is beating prussia in a war
    espacily not if hanover, bavaria & denmark side with prussia

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks for your comment
      I had tried to illustrate that the hapsburg Germans had the upper hand through non compliance with prussian reaction and armed revolts. I’m sorry that I failed to properly illustrate the severity. Hope you have a good day

  • @chrisgaming9567
    @chrisgaming9567 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Why didn't the Russian Revolution happen?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 8 měsíci +1

      It did, but for reasons, Lenin was Pro-War instead of Anti-War, so the Bolsheviks got less traction, and lost to the white movement.

    • @chrisgaming9567
      @chrisgaming9567 Před 8 měsíci

      @@LoreDad for reasons?

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci

      Yes, to be revealed in the next lore video!

  • @reddstar-starsir
    @reddstar-starsir Před 8 měsíci +1

    w

  • @blaizakin90
    @blaizakin90 Před 7 měsíci +2

    this alternate history is just saying things to say things. The german military was strong because of prussia not simply because it was german. The Austrian military was dog shit just giving them germany lands doesn't reform their military.

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks for your comment, sorry you didn’t like it.

    • @blaizakin90
      @blaizakin90 Před 7 měsíci

      @@LoreDad I think a better way to have gone is just have the prussian king accept the crown. Changing decisions is a better way to do alternate history than just say oh this nation will take over the world because I like them and they are super op because i said so. It changes it from a fantasy to a what-if. What if Germany unified in 1850 - "well the easiest way for that to happen is if the prussian monarch accepted the crown of Germany" what you did "the Austrians accepted the crown of Germany and then despite losing war after war they were able to win a world war against the russians french and Prussians crazy.

  • @uzaynazisi8279
    @uzaynazisi8279 Před 8 měsíci +2

    mod link?

    • @g-man2351
      @g-man2351 Před 8 měsíci

      No mod yet

    • @LoreDad
      @LoreDad  Před 8 měsíci

      Discord link is in description to keep up with development!

    • @uzaynazisi8279
      @uzaynazisi8279 Před 8 měsíci

      @@LoreDad ok