The Limit of Selflessness - Self-Sacrifice in One Piece
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"those sacrifices were an attempt to make up for his weakness, but in the end those sacrifices were only further proof that he was weak." damn my dude. absolute great statement. made me got the chills.
That s so true...
I read this when he said it
Almost every Straw Hat has sacrificed themselves to protect the whole crew. I can’t wait to see how Brook will put his life on the line...although, he is already dead. YOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO! SKULL JOOOOOKE!
He stood in front of Usopp and I can't remember for the life of me, when Kuma sent them all away
holy shit you’re such a fucking loser. you’re literally in EVERY anime video comment section, do you not have anything better to do? then to top off all the weird shit about you, you REALLY just typed brook’s laugh out, probably the most annoying thing a one piece fan can do. that shit was so lame and cringe so you better delete that ugly ass comment
Just Some Guy with a Mustache h
@@tallgrass2135 So what if he's in every comment's section? You're not much better, you try and pick fights in comment sections. See? We all have guilty pleasures.
Who hurt you, Kasom Moghalu?
His clean audio and editing style force me to believe everything he says
ERUPTING!
BURNING!
SUBSCRIIIIIIBE!
Heck Chopper using Monster point before the 2 year time skip was always a sort of self Sacrafice, destroying his body and loosing control to hopefully defeat or stall an opponent so the others could escape, it is a different sort of self scarafice since he wasn't exactly surrendering directly to his enemy, but more to the power his fruit had in order to desperately avoid surrendering to the enemy or to avoid surrendering as much as possible.
Sanji's sacrifice on Drum Island often gets forgotten, so thank you for mentioning it
Sanji sacrifice in the sky land was underrated. First Strawhat to sacrifice himself
he only did that to light his cigarete, so it doesn't count
Because the impact is not enough.. There's only usopp and nami on the maxim at that moment, not all strawhat.
He wasn't the firt one c'mon did you forgot The Arlong Park?
But yeah, it's pretty underrated
That lighting couldn't kill anyone, not even fucking Papaya ahahah Nice sacrifice ahahah
@@simonerz8248
Jesus u are a piece of shit.
One piece isn't a story about selflessness but story of selfishness.....
probably my favourite line in describing one piece I've heard in a long time
Dark Knight What was it Saiyuki (another manga with a similar theme said) “there is no such thing as a selfless action”
@@animalia5554 i don't agree at all but ok
@@simonerz8248 I think the basic idea was as long as you have "self" there is no such thing as "Selflessness" which makes as a theme for Saiyuki as it a manga adaptation of Journey To The West which draws on Buddhist themes.
@@animalia5554 Yes but how, for example, killing yourself to save someone can be selfish?
I honestly don't understand what you are saying, maybe it's my fault
@@simonerz8248 Maybe because you couldn't life with their deaths on your conscience if they were to die? Don't get me wrong there are definitely DEGREES of selfishness. It's just reading Saiyuki made me think about things in a new way the friends there constantly risk life and limb for each other, but as THEY wanted to do.
Also speaking of killing yourself to save someone, sometimes said people don't think about the people who get left behind.
the people who are saved are often left behind to to grieving, while the dead are dead and have moved on. One Could argue that from the perspective of the living that the one who died was selfish act as it left their loved ones in pain while the dead are free. You don't have to agree with it. But it IS an argument to make.
To come back to Saiyuki there was a line early on, that "anyone can become a Buddha, all you have to do is die, unfortunately we're still living." Basically it was interesting manga that challenged my perspective.
Again I do agree that there are DEGREES of selfishness, and for me, PERSONALLY I think it comes back to a line I remember from Law & Order, That "your right to swing your fist, stops at the next person nose" It's basically used as a measuring stick in judicial case of how far individual rights and liberties go. Basically you can have your rights and liberties so long as they don't trample on the rights and liberties of someone else.
I hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts and philosophy with you. this has been really engaging.
P.S. That being said. When I mentioned DEGREES of selfishness, what you talk about is GENERALLY, one of the least selfish kinds of selfishness. I do agree with you there. (Laying down one's life for a friend or a stranger is GENERALLY a noble thing, and I am sorry if it seems like I disagree with you on general principle when that isn't the case) Still I DO think it's always important to think about exceptions to the rule, and places where the norm may not apply. For if do not try to challenge our own own preconceptions, we rick becoming narrow minded.
I always try to challenge my way of thinking, did I think X because I truly believe it, or did did I have some internal bias at work here.
I do find that Despite my belief that there is no such thing as COMPLETE selflessness, people tend towards to be more giving then, not if only because, ironically, it's what benefits them more in the long run. Or maybe that's just the optimist in me. After all if you work with someone to hunt for game and then kill from your hunting partner you may have more meat in the short term but int the long term you will be out partners that can help you hunt and no one will be likely to help you hunt.
Really interesting video. I used to always think that the crew's "We cant keep letting Luffy shoulder all the burden" moment in Thiller Bark ended up going no where, but I can see now that Oda continued to examine the flawed shonen trope of sacrificing oneself for power.
It makes me wonder if its an element thats gonna result in some kind of tragedy worse than Ace's death, cause the characters dont quite seem to have learned from it yet.
Worse than Ace's death...?
Wtf shanks have to die
@@abdullahimtiaz7696 most likely
One Piece is the anime where people sacrifice themselves for others, leading to them needing someone else to protect them in turn. A cycle of sacrifices where at 1 point someone is bound to get hurt or even killed. But it's at that point where people start growing and caring about each other, the ones that were once weak become stronger, the strong ones have something to fight for because at one point, their protection would be the one to protect them in long run. Great video, made me really think of how many sacrifices there are in one piece.
I wish you would’ve talked about Zoro putting aside his pride and ambition to train under mihawk for luffys sake, but that’s more of an example of positive selflessness without much of a consequence.
YOU CAN'T JUST PLAY THE ACE SCENE WITHOUT WARNING GODDAMMIT!
Great video but you also forgot to mention the sacrifice of Corazon and how it wasn't for his family, but instead for the protection and saviour of Law, a person who he believed would challenge the World Nobles. It was through Corazons sacrifice that Law later helped defeat Dolflamingo
All I can say is thank you. Thank you for FINALLY UPLOADING ANOTHER ONE PIECE VIDEO YOU GODDAMN SADIST
One word for One Piece : Greatness
The videos you and mathwiz make are some of my favorites. Abstract concepts broken down through character action, plot themes and directorial decisions. Good stuff man.
if crafts had a better a voice and delivery i would enjoy his videos more
@@rezoannur2333
He already has improved so much on this aspect compared to his earlier videos dude, don't be hard on him . watch his video called "Skypiea and the value of worldbuilding" and you will see what having a bad delivery means.
@@SuperBallani i've already watched it. he has improved but i still find his delivery kind of boring and stale. its hard to follow or care about what he's saying a lot of the times. i have to rewatch his videos a few times to fully get his points.
The dorf ascends from his workshop beneath to bestow us with another smooth and beautiful video
nice
I think an important part of Mr 2s ability to self-sacrifice is that he might not be free physically (being captured and locked up) he is free emotionally and sexually (as he is able to express his sexuality in the way he wants to) so whenever he sacrifices himself he is able to remain free even behind bars
This was really good and a whole lot more fleshed out than some of the more questionable rants during the Nen Show.
probably because one he thought about it more, two argued it out on discord with his fans.
@@DyNomi7e Sure, it makes sense why it is better, I am just glad it is
Amazing point of view...
Excellent work. I was wondering then someone would examine self sacrifice as it is something a lot of people romanticize without taking context in consideration. Even then I feel that were is a point in pointless sacrifice, if the people around can learn from there mistakes. It show how mature One Piece can be, and that under all the goofy antics lies something more profound.
Thank you for your contribution. Great topic and a great way to segway into what the will of D. really means.
This really struck a chord, thsnk you.
You, Mathwiz,Clyde and Tsiah are the best guys for analysis'. And you specifically do an awesome job
This channel has some great vids. I can definitely see your point. My opinion is what you stand to lose vs what you your dream/ambition. If your dream is more valuable than the lose, then you accept the lose. If the lose is more valuable than your ambition, than you will sacrifice your goal for it. This is regardless of whether or not you succeed, for success is never guaranteed, no matter how much you need or want it. Unless it's fiction and then anything is possible at anytime.
Oh my...
layers up on layers up on layers.
One Piece is truely a masterpiece huh?
Thats why I love those kind of videos. They let me appreciate One Piece so much more.
Yes!!!! another crafts analysis of One Piece, i'm full of Joy.
However there is one thing i'm not sure in your video, you says that in the end it was Luffy who caused Ace's death because Ace needed to protect him, but if Luffy wasn't here, Ace would have died in the first place because Luffy fried him, and stopped his execution with Conqueror's Haki. So i'm not sure that Luffy not being here would have saved Ace anyway...
Marco mentioned that he would have saved Ace even if Luffy didn't use Conqueror's Haki.
Well someone else might have been able to save him since we know that WB himself had Conqueror's haki too. Then again I don't know if they would have been able to get past Garp and it's hard to imagine how the war would have gone without big players like Crocodile and Ivankov (and Buggy-sama).
I think Crafts' point still holds ground though. It's not that Luffy's self-sacrifice got Ace killed but rather that it was irrelevant because it changed nothing at the end of the day.
Reaz Ahmad really ace got himself killed ...him and Luffy was getting away and he stopped to fight because the lava dude talked about whitebeard
Oof that HxH music
Right????
One piece video essays should be more prevalent. I'm so so happy that you're not only doing it, but it's soooooooo good!
Bout time this man made another vid, Thanks Craft
7:56 this scene just reminded me of the *MOST ANTICIPATED* fight in One Piece & I can't wait to see it!!!! 🌋🔥 👒
Fantastic video, I'm so glad I took the plunge and started reading One Piece last year. Unfortunately I've fallen a bit behind the nen show (I'm only about halfway through dressrosa) but listening to you guys talk about it alongside the reading, as well as seeing your scripted videos on One PIece, have definitely enhanced my appreciation for the story.
Holy shit that sit nearly made me cry
You and mathwiz are my personal favorite Anime analyzers. I feel like you guys and Nux see that their more to a Shounen then others.
Watching this after Oden's backstory
Dr Hiruluk and Queen Otohime had the greatest sacrifices in the One piece story. Drum Kingdom's future rested on Hiruluk's Sacrifice and Fishman Island's future rested on Otohime's sacrifice.
Great video, I like the points you made, however, I have to disagree with your statement that Ace died because of Luffy's weakness.
Saying that the only reason Ace turned back to face Akainu is because Luffy was behind him, overlooks the significance of Whitebeard in Ace's life. Ace turned back because Akainu was mocking Whitebeard, his father and the man who saved his life, he would not stand for it hence why he turned back, not because of Luffy.
People say, Akainu would have gotten to Luffy even if Ace didn't turn around, but honestly nobody knows what would have happened, Luffy was surrounded by Jinbe and others its possible one of them could have carried Luffy and escaped.
I dont see how hard this is to graps for people. Ace is BOTH protecting WB name and sacrifice and protections luffy.
He did the exact same thing when protecting luffy from bluejam
Dadan: "Why didn't you run away?"
Ace: "Luffy was behind me."
Regarless of the fact. Ace would have had to protect luffy in either case even if he didnt stop and continued to run. Luffys sacrifices to make up for his weakness, overuse of G2nd, overusing ivankovs drugs. The negative sideffects would have caught up to him either way while akainu was chasing them. Ace would have to still protect luffy anyway.
I love this video so much because how smooth it is well done
Thank you for being a top channel
You should do more One Piece videos
Luffy didn't fail to save Ace,he succeeded and Ace threw the effort and sacrifices of everyone away over a dad insult.
Sigh the sabo flashback already explains this, ace fought bluejam because luffy was behind him. Ace badmouthed akainu because once again luffy was behind him.
except...the situation was completely different...luffy wasn't in danger until after he stopped because of akainus words...
Akemi Homura I think it’s less that Luffy failed to save Ace but that Luffy saving Ace resulted in failure. He himself may not have caused that failure but the fact of the matter is that Ace died (regardless of the reason). It just supports the vid’s idea that the type of self sacrifice Luffy was doing is not ideal in the story
To add on wat crow said. Luffy failed regardless his continuing path of self sacrifice is what made him be in the position to be saved in the first place. Gear 2nd, life span drug are negative choice luffy had to make because he believe that he needs to bear the burden on himself.
Why does everyone pretend that Ace got a hole through his chest the second he turned around to Akainu's taunts? Yeah, he got overpowered from their clash, but that confrontation isn't what got him killed. What got him killed was when Akainu shifted his target over to Luffy , who at that point started to become fatigued after everything that he did.
Quick someone cache this before Toe deletes it
Loving your vids. Keep up
Wow amazing video thanks for that QUALITY content
Wow. I am impressed and moved by your video.
Bro your shit is actual so deep but needed
Sanji really gave a lot but zorro gets the credit simply because he has swords and is badass.
Underrated CZcamsr.
Oh boy Christmas is early this year
Probably your best video
You can also do selfless things for selfish reasons there's a difference between action and motivation for that action.
Good video love your channel btw and all ....
But..but you said SHABONDY in staid of saboady
Beautiful
oh no bon chan too soon
I just know you listen to Jordan Peterson. Your style of articulation and in depth psychoanalysis is so similar. Dope video too btw.
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9:17 "...and those young must come to realize their own weaknesses; that they cannot shoulder everything alone... it is only through relying on ...[others]" *shows clip of nami pre-ts stabbing her shoulder repeatedly*
hah, quirky bastard.
Very informative! Thank-You!
That... was beautiful.
Aye a one piece video for 2019 man thks man
Ok lets be honest zoro being at full strength at sabaody wouldnt of really made a difference.
we dont know for sure, but the point is that zoro being weak made him a liability where other crew members had to step in to save him.
Let's be honest, he sure would make a difference.. That's why Oda make Zoro on weak condition for make sense up strawhat defeat.
that was beautifull
That was beautiful!
Oh my god, waking up with a hangover, watching this video, met myself, dunno... :'-/
oh yeah more One Piece content from de boi Crafts
Beautiful vid mate
Great video. Never saw it this way
This is a great video
Goat Piece Idc What Yall Say
Also Luffy wouldn't have to be protected in the critical moment if Ace hadn't let Akainu get to him. I mean, he probably would've collapsed anyway, but in a less critical moment and with more than just Ace to protect and jump in front of him. Also he was fully ready to sacrifice himself for his brother.
I dont see how hard this is to graps for people. Ace is BOTH protecting WB name and sacrifice and protections luffy.
He did the exact same thing when protecting luffy from bluejam
Dadan: "Why didn't you run away?"
Ace: "Luffy was behind me."
Regarless of the fact. Ace would have had to protect luffy in either case even if he didnt stop and continued to run. Luffys sacrifices to make up for his weakness, overuse of G2nd, overusing ivankovs drugs. The negative sideffects would have caught up to him either way while akainu was chasing them. Ace would have to still protect luffy anyway.
@@DyNomi7e I Don't see how Ace felt obligated to protect WB name, none of the other WB Pirates did. He didn't have to defend his name since WB himself clearly wasn't bothered by it.
Beautiful!
GREAT video!
This was really good 👍👍👍👍
Great video bro 🙏👊
I just stopped watching a One Piece analysis video.. to watch this One Piece analysis video lol
I'm sad now
People need clarity not confidence
Blankz- All Blue
hell yeah great video
BON CLAY!!!!! I MISS YOU!!!! ;-;
Arlong is from the East blue
Was in *
He's a Grand Line pirate.
@@greenbird3179 No he was an East Blue pirate that's from the grand line
Hey, I really enjoy these one piece videos, but the one called "did haki kill the action in one piece" is unavailable. Is there any way I can watch it? Maybe outside of youtube ir something. Thanks for the great content.
yaay good stuff
Vivi's another good example. I mean there's nothing too deep about her motivations but the show spent so long reminding us Vivi wanted to save her country on her own that I feel like its a topic that could be explored. Also I still don't get why Luffy punched her, it struck me as uncharacteristic.
He punched her, very basically, because he was mad at her for sacrificing herself alone, instead of sacrificing herself *alongside* him and the crew, since she was, as he put it, one of them, a nakama.
This is also why he kept going after Robin in Ennies Lobby, she was doing the same thing, and Nami in Arlong Park, and Sanji in WCI.
Of course, he dealt with each situation differently, since each situation was under a different context, as dumb as he his, Luffy is also very perceptive of these "under the surface" feelings and reasonings of other people.
That's what I think at least, maybe I'm wrong.
@@SchrollShepardJust as you say he handles each situation differently but the punch just seemed very unnecessary to me. Like it's only purpose was to pull a bait and switch on the situation for a cheap emotional twist. He never even got mad at nami, Robin or Sanji. He never once raised a hand at any of them.
Luffys temperament is silly tho for instance in Jaya island he was ready to fight Blackbeard over a pie yet wouldn't raise a hand to Bellamy who was being a huge piece of shit.
cheers for the reply and sharing your point of view :)
@@jamz8729 Of course it was unnecessary, like I said he was mad at her in that moment, unlike with the others.
Also, I forgot to mention, part of the reason he was mad at her was because she was being stupidly naive, not wanting *anyone* to die in the war, Luffy was like "bitch, it's a war, people *will* die", obviously didn't say it like that lol, but you get what I mean.
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About the Bellamy situation, either you forgot, or you didn't understand it, Luffy didn't fight back at Bellamy because Bellamy was nothing to him, a man of no dreams who ridiculed those who dared to have aspirations in life, he was quite literally not worth the effort, it was more of a symbolic win for Luffy, like Blackbeard said right after they left the bar, Luffy and Zoro won that battle, it was about beliefs and convictions, not about the physical hits.
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Sorry for the long comment, hope this helps you see these things in a new light. If not, well, you do you, I'm not gonna try to force you to agree with me, nor do I want to.
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Cheers.
@@SchrollShepard i remember why they didn't fight Bellamy. But he was literally about to fight Blackbeard over the taste of cherry pie. It was mainly a little joke but it felt odd to place those two scenes so close to each other. Why didn't Luffy silently allow Blackbeard to enjoy the pie the same way he allowed Bellamy to make fun of him? It's basically the same thing, Bellamy mocked Luffys ambitions and Blackbeard mocked Luffys taste buds. To me it was just a way to build up the eventually "you can mock me all you want but don't you dare go after my friends"
I guess you could argue it shows the extreme opposites of luffys character hence making the Vivi punch *in character* . The bellemy scene was basically a rerun of shanks and the bandit but it felt so natural with shanks. Seemed odd for luffy.
Again cheers for the discussion but yh I'm still set on calling the punch silly. Cordial debates are nice to have. Don't get many on YT.
Honestly I need someone to cover Katekyo Hitman at some point or another.
Actually someone has. A CZcamsr by Nunmanji. The video has some audio issues though unfortunately. Otherwise itd be pretty solid. As a new anituber though I do believe he has promise. Not bad for a first.
czcams.com/video/pjXkMgeOupI/video.html yeah, try this
@@billyhorseleg1510 it sucked
Good video, but was disappointed by one thing...
Where's that Dwarf Fortress LP your name and avatar implies?
You awesome!
You forgot the most selfless sacrifice was from shanks
Hey man really great video, I do disagree with the points you made in the video and if your okay with it I’d love to having a discussion with you on discord about it or just one piece in general but it’s really great content you’re making here keep up the good work and doing your thing.
Dude I absolutely love your content but you don't need to speak in that tone where you always emphasise the last word. Just try talking normally. But apart from that you're doing amazing and wish you best!
Did you call Sabaody.............................Chebondi?
Heh.
8:15 what is that song?
Wm. R. Woodland it’s HxH. You can find it if you search for Meruem and Komugi music.
I expected nothing less from u
What is chibondy lol
It's pronounced saba-ondi
Did he say "Shobandee"? How do you get there from "Sabaody"?
Nah ace died and it was his fault the whole way sadly. His death wasnt on luffy
You believe in the will of the coin collecting too huh. lol.
1st comment and view at the same time
ima respectfully disagree with a lot of this video . Ace died because he was being too hot headed when Akainu was antagonizing him . Luffy rescued him , Ace died protecting Whitebesrds honor
How dare you belittle their sacrifices by shrinking it down into a formula
Huh? explain?
Plot armor over 9000
I love One Piece but Naruto has the greatest sacrifices and Itachi has made it