Peter Mandelson v Chris Grayling on EU referendum - BBC Newsnight
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- In the first of six special programmes on the EU referendum, Peter Mandelson and Chris Grayling clash over the ins and outs of being part of the European Union. Debate hosted by Evan Davis. Read more on our blog bbc.in/1oRTzz7
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Peter Mandelson doing a better job of defending the Remain camp than ineffectual Jeremy Corbin.
+john howe
Jeremy's heart isn't in it. I sometimes think that he's a Eurosceptic who's gone back into the closet for some reason.
Is that what counts for a debate? An inconclusive scrap about whether or not Chris Grayling attended some EU Council meeting? Hope there's some more worthwhile discussion than that missed in this video. Discussion of Mandelson's EU pension perhaps?
i wonder how many millions Mandelson owes in taxes?
Mandelson doing the heavy lifting for the good side again. Best Prime Minister the UK never had!
The science question decides it, for me.
The science community is amazingly united -- leave the EU and we lose teachers, students, ideas, funding, jobs, business and the genius of British innovation. We need the light of science and tech more than ever before. I won't abandon that call. Vote me "in", friends.
+SimplyGimpy The mathematics question decides it for me. The UK gives the EU 13.5 billion each year and gets back 4,5 billion each year....If we kept the 13.5 billion we could invest a lot more in science and education.
+SimplyGimpy The "science" community receives subsidies (our OWN tax money recycled back to us from the EU) on projects approved of by the European union. That money should be given directly to them by our own government - not through an unelected, self-appointed bunch of bureaucrats. You're a traitor if you vote to stay in this undemocratic and extremely expensive club.
+SimplyGimpy Are you taking the mickey?
+English Heart No why..are you his PR agent
be frank I was replying to SimplyGimpy
Let's hear what Mandelson has to say today.
If we are permanently in the minority in the EU voting system how can we control our affairs ? Answer me that one Oh Prince of Darkness ?
Chris. You cant even hire a ship.
Keep talking Mandelson. You only make the case for Brexit stronger.
On July 6, 1988, on a North Sea oil rig, 167 people died in the Piper Alpha explosion, The world's deadliest offshore oil disaster, and grayling has the front (typical tory) to totally gloss over that fact and say how safe we are and accuse Mandelson of not telling the whole truth. Thatcher was in her third term and strong criticism of the Brithish Govt's safety policy enforcement on these platforms was made repeatedly, but as usual the tories did little to nothing, costing these men their lives. The hypocrisy of these tories is truly shocking. Kick them out for good, for the good of this country.
It's to safe
Yeah, keep Mandelson talking on the "yes" side, that should give a land slide "no" vote.
i thought Mandelson was dead
Again, more Mandelson lies. The judges on the ECJ represent the EU in the application of the treaties, and no ECJ judge, irrespective of where he comes from, is allowed to represent any individual EU member nation.
More lies from Mandelson. The UK appoints an EU Commissioner, but, as a matter of EU law, that commissioner is prohibited from representing the UK. All Commissioners are prohibited by law from representing the UK. As for the EU Parliament, it is filled with MEPs who do NOT represent nation states or their people. MEPs represent regions of the EU that cut across national borders. And the European Council, while seeming to represent EU member nations,, is mandated to put the best interests of the EU at the forefront when making its decisions. The bottom line is that there is not a single EU institution that represents a single EU citizen. Not one. And that's deliberate.
Classic Mandelson
This Mandelson guy is scarily persuasive. In a boring way
Mandelsson is scared to death. Good. Vote to leave and save rest of the Europe again like you did in WWII. Thank you.
Putting Grayling on with Mandelson wasn't exactly fair on Grayling, as he was out classed at every level. However it is excellent to see sensible, balanced and informed coverage of EU issues from the BBC. Better late than never.
Delusional
I hope we leave.
+captain carter I to hope we all vote to come out of europe 'but just like the Scottish referendum when the worms from British government were coming out of the woodwork, the propagandists from showbiz, sports, popstars .were all having there say of bias propaganda to influence the votes.and they got there way.if you are not sure what to vote .you look to what your town,city, village made when your parents or grandparents were alive and compere it to now,even your high streets, business have been strangulated with taxes,rates , health and safety,political correctness to the point of a country GREAT BRITAIN built on blood sweat and tears from our forefathers admired around the world to a place ,dismantled,broken up,and sold to foreigners .who control all of our resources ,and where there is nothing made here anymore to a place your grandchildren have to live in desolation ,and now they are 3rd class citizens in there own country ,just like France,Germany etc,these MPs from tony Blair labour (con) government to David Cameron conservative government every single one have betrayed us,and Europe's MPs also ,and all of these homeless Muslim refugees driven from there homelands etc it need not have been ,illegal wars in prosperous developed country's looted and bombed to pieces,we are strangers in our own lands .if you vote to stay in .the following day you will see them gloating with more rules,laws regulations etc etc ,you ask your parents what your town or city,was like for employment and decency and this as not just happened over night ,we are all being controlled,you can't eat this ,you can't eat that, sugar is bad for you, eggs etc etc go outside to smoke as if you have committed a crime .our forefathers will be turning in the grave to see how great Britain as become with traitors they built OUR GREAT BRITAIN on blood sweat and tears and hard back braking work,for you and me VOTE OUT
Go Chris 🇬🇧👍
Ah Mandelson, the pompous, self serving, one of the dodgiest of Blair's confidants sent out by Blair to spread Blair's thoughts.