Gordon Brown candid on Blair, Corbyn and tax
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown turns on Tony Blair and reveals what he has in common with Theresa May in this candid interview with Sky's Dermot Murnaghan.
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Poor Gordon Brown, he almost went blind, he lost his daughter and his son is sick. He has had his share of pain. Hope life has some happiness left for him.
I may be a conservative but i agree. Putting political differences aside i think its important to still treat politicians like humans
@@elliotsodergren2270 Brown has a good political mind but doesn't have the persona needed to carry it across as leader. He made some mistakes but as chancellor he was probably overruled by Blair on a lot of things, like the tuition fees.
@@jimmynich4791 Agreed, one thing that he did wrong as chancellor was charge quarries for money for the environment then after 2 years he put it into the governments pot of money instead of the environment.
I wholeheartedly agree. It's such a relief to see a humane, kind and supportive comment on Brown; too often he seems to attract nothing but cruel and ignorant contempt and unmeasured condemnations from hateful people.
@olehomer1988 still a tory?
Interesting how competent and well oiled he appears against the current crop of disaster cases.
post-leadership image reconstruction: George Bush is doing the same thing and Tony Blair is trying it as well, probably because there is still money to be made for them... but the reality is that they are all men who supported foreign policies that lead to the destabilization of the entire planet.
This man almost tripled the national debt during peace time. Quite an achievement.
But never was when confronting his own disasters !!!!
My enduring memory of his premiership was of a Prime Minister who seemed very weak and out of his depth. But when he intervened in the Scottish independence referendum he came across as very strong and authoritative.
einsof ... he started the downward spiral on pensions and sold half of our gold reserves off at the bottom of the market. the man was an idiot.
Gordon Brown is a very intelligent man. Always criticised about the financial crash that was actually global yet people think it was solely related to the UK. Far more intelligent than Cameron / May / Johnson.
Cameron and especially may where very clever.
Not than Cameron. DC schooled him regularly week in week out
jimmy hopkins he is indeed.
He has an MA and a PhD and he’s the longest running chancellor.
Matt Silverbridge had David Cameron been one power during the financial crisis this country would have been finished. He and George Osbourne were possibly the worst and most embarrassing combination British politics has ever seen. I can’t believe that people actually voted for them morons.
Unfortunately the people who attribute the financial crash to Gordon aren't quite as well researched as he is.
I've always liked him even as a Conservative. I'll be reading his book.
He was fairly conservative: he cut corporation and capital gains tax. He did, however, help the less fortunate with working tax credits. I like him too, though.
I wouldn’t say I like him necessarily, I disagreed with a lot of what he believed and despite not starting the economic crisis we found ourselves in, he didn’t do a lot to help it. Despite this compared to Blair he had integrity, and he got fucked over by Blair a lot during Labour’s time in power. Got backstabbed in the leadership election in 94 and then got left with turmoil in 2007. Tony knew what he was doing.
@@jackchadderton6263 That isn't what conservative means
A flawed man but one who also stopped us joining the Euro.
One of the good things that he did do ! I was always opposed to us joining the Euro and I was right !
Your point being ? Had we gone into the Euro we would not have any control over our monitory and fiscal policies. We would not be able to change the interest rate. We would not be able to to QE. We would be a vessel state like Greece.
we are a vassal of Washington rather than Frankfurt like Greece is
He also prevented a second Great Depression from occurring in Britain and helped to save the world economy after the global financial crisis; introduced in-work benefits (tax credits), kept average incomes rising throughout the recession.
Tapor E not so much flawed as undermined
Substance over style. Had he been elected in 2010, Britain would have been better off
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Humble, intelligent and brilliantly candid man. Good man, good politician and especially importantly - very intelligent and prudent economist.
He practicaly saved UK from the worst of the financial storm of the late 2000s. Studied him very thoroughly. Definitely one of the top 5 politicians of the UK.
UK People should be more proud with him than they are.
I remember being a student when he came to power. I was naïve and narrowminded (like a lot of voters!). I saw the charismatic Blair replaced by this grumpy looking Scottish dude who struggled to smile and he just didn't win me over. Instead I swung to voting smooth talking Nick Clegg. But looking back across historical footage in hindsight, now wiser in my later 30's, I think it was a tragedy he couldn't win the public mandate because he was likely more a competent a prime minister than Blair was! Probably the last competent PM we had. But the Murdoch press were against him. I remember when the Sun newspaper announced their support for the Tories....
Pair of yous must be crack heads 🇬🇧
The MSM should be out on trial for what they did to him and for misleading the public with lies and deceit to put the public off Brown and have them support Tory crooks.
I think, had Gordon Brown been a PM before 1960 he would have lasted longer. Unfortunately he had the bad luck to be the incumbent in an era where style mattered over substance. The Media treated him disgracefully.
He was unlucky to become PM just as the banking crisis hit, the timing of Blair stepping down kind of looks convenient.
Gordon Brown became PM just before the 2008 crash. That's why he lost the election. He was unlucky a bit like Theresa May in that sense; both took over power from somewhat disliked PMs and had to lead two storms. Both lasted 3 years.
If the 2008 crash did not take place it's very likely we would have had Gordon as PM until 2015 at least. He is a good man and was a pretty solid PM. Flawed yes but we are not all perfect.
Media has only ever treated one Labour leader nicely and that was sell out Blair. They've been awful to Brown, Milliband and Corbyn. Will have to see how they are to Starmer in the long run
@@ItsSpecialHands lmao "sellout Blair," arguably the best PM in the past 40 years? Passed devolved governments, oversaw Good Friday agreement, reenacted Greater London Council, had Britain see some of the best years in living standards, all the while retaining a centre-left government that the tories just couldn't win against? If anything, Britain needs a new Blair
Brown will never go down as a great Premier, but I think history will treat him kindly. Somewhat like Jimmy Carter
Gordon was a decent PM. Don’t know why history would treat him harshly. Jimmy, on the other hand, while a very decent man and a unique president in that he was pretty ahead of his time in terms of foreign policy and putting forward things such as a universal healthcare system, is often remembered by the economic problems he inherited in the 70s and his perceived exacerbation or inaction of/on those problems.
Very good comparison. Both diligent and extremely hard working men. Next level intellect as well.
@Bessie Hillum worked well under pressure after the Glasgow terrorist attack and flooding . Dealt with the economic crisis as well as he could after the 2008 world wide crash . Bailed out the banks to protect people's money instead of taking the Conservative way of letting them fail , He made mistakes and wasnt perfect by any means , but he is a decent man .
never had any time for gordon brown, but i think he has mellowed an i'm warming to him, i think history has been un-kind to him, wish he had won the election tho
Brown had Blair and the banking crisis to contend with. He was kind of unlucky with the timing of him becoming PM. I don't think he had the personality to win multiple elections though.
@@jimmynich4791 its a shame elections are based on personality. That's democracy though I guess. If people knew johnson's real personality he certainly wouldn't get many votes, but saying that so much has come out about him and get he has been beloved up until now
@Bessie Hillum He is more charismatic than those who opposed him.
@@isaacthompson3600not anymore, tory will be history soon
Brown is I think the polar opposite to Boris Johnson in that he isn’t showy and won’t attract voters with his personality, but he has a head for policy and an eye for detail. There’s definitely something to be said for having a dull yet broadly competent man like him in charge. I wasn’t a huge fan of his when he was PM but would swap any of the subsequent PM’s for him any day.
Sadly people are usually taken in by empty charisma rather than someone competent. Tale as old as time
❤Precisely.
Gordon Brown was an outstanding Chancellor and brought in many positive changes including the change in the way interest rates are announced. He had a sure touch in handling the nation's finances which worked very well during his 10 year period as the man who managed the country's finances. His handling of the Banking crisis 2008-10 was equally sure-footed then as Prime Minister. Sadly he never received credit for his work in either capacity.
It`s very sad he lost to David Cameron...
@Bessie Hillum , fast forward November 2022, in the last 6 years we have had imposed on the country 4 PM’s who were never voted in which they became leader, May, Boris, Truss and Rishi, at least when Brown became leader it was well known that he was to become leader in the 2007 election, the same cannot be said about any of the Tory PM’s. Worse still Truss decided to change tack from the Tory 2019 manifesto so never had any mandate, in doing so trashed the economy!
@@bessiehillum6498
Are the numbnuts missing Boris the entertainer?
❤❤Excellent, precise and FACTUAL observation.
tbf he doesnt look so bad after the shambolic premierships of may and cameron
Preferred Cameron to Brown. Brown was someone who didn't have the balls to stand up to Tony Blair in 1994. There's a reason they lost in 2010, and it wasn't the recession. If it was the recession, Major would have lost in 1992. Brown went in to the 2010 election with a promise not to cut spending at all and instead raise taxes to reduce the deficit, as well as failing to rule out joining the Euro. That was never going to win votes, especially when the Lib Dems pledged to raise the personal allowance (and did when they got in).
@@RBenjo21 wrong
Right !!!
I like Gordon Brown. Good Man.
We could do with a chancellor like Gordon now.
I think everyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
@@vanmantalks and yet it all started when he was voted out in 2010. It's been rather downhill since then, with each prime minister being worse than their predecessor. Starmer isn't great either. Was willing to give him a chance but he doesn't seem to be anything special, if anything he seems like a puppet being fed lines
what? a really bad one?
Blair had a brain it was called Gordon Brown
I think anyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
Nah
@@BT-kc3ee yah
@@JiafeiProducts6969 that must be why Blair won three general Elections and Brown lost to David Cameron 😂
@@BT-kc3ee must be why blair only won because the economy was good and that was managed by brown, and the global financial crash wasnt caused by brown
A true state man .So rare in this era .He was excellent and remains a 100% wonderful politician ....:)
For all his perceived flaws please do not forget that this man through his eloquence and determination saved the very existence of the UK at the culmination of the Scottish Independence Referendum. When a serious and respected voice was required to reiterate the benefits of the union he spoke and the ordinary people of Scotland listened. It made the difference. For that he will always have my thanks and my deepest and most profound respect.
Agreed.
@Bessie Hillum I think that was made in the USA in fairness.
Gordon Brown ,Best chancellor I’ve ever seen .
the worst i've ever seen
@@zachsmith5515 Your comment is only 7 days old and we have had Kwarteng as Chancellor so surely he cant be the worse .
Nigel Lawson.
I used to give Brown a hard time but he became PM at such a difficult time
He literally oversaw the financial crash, and actually did a decent job
I think anyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
I would say the only book worth reading by a British PM in the last 30 years.
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Gordon Brown was the brain of New Labour.
Rovert Seivad not really. The value of assets is known as capital. The value of cash is also capital. So he swapped a limited resource for something which grows on trees. He sold off the state's assets for cash to fund what? Buying commercial banks that were losing money? I hope he understands the error of his ways and can now listen to new ideas such as building the council housing he never built, building the infrastructure he never wanted, etc.
This mumbling idiot also robbed private pensions , these pensions were paid for by the hard working self employed
Tony Blair and Gordon Brown what a comedy act ,
@@allpoliticsnoeconomics4186 We wouldn't need so many new houses of any kind if it wasn't for greedy business people's reckless use of cheap work agencies. They make most of their money from accomodation, so they advertise positions abroad, as those people will need somewhere to live. #CapitalistWetDream
I'd say not so much the brain, more the conscience of New Labour. Calling him the brain implies he came up with everything.
No it was Mandelson and his cronies
Nick Clegg should have joined up with Big Gordon in 2010!
would that have been possible? i thought they would not of had a majority
6:47 "But Tony actually says ..." Careful Dermot your bias is showing
Best bit ; when he accidentally called Corbyn "Jeffrey" 😁😂
He is a true labour grassroots man
I think everyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
Come back Gordon. For all his faults a brilliant and genuine man.
I think everyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
Only just watching this but the media are keen to bring the relationship up between Blair and brown. It’s sad really that media can’t find something else that is more important than if brown liked Blair or not.
A terrifically underrated Prime Minister
The Blair autobiography reading was nonsense, those words quoted are ambiguous at best, they don't suggest that the idea was all Blair's, even if he didn't explicitly contribute the whole idea to Brown.
noticing his tie at around about the 8:00 mark, after watching a documentary where peter mandelson says he "gave up" on him specifically referring to his tie
I wonder how much he and Tony speak nowadays
None🤣🤣
Honest, and well-spoken guy. Watching this after watching some Blair interviews is stunning, in how different the two men are.
Even as a Conservative, I can see how big of a step up Brown was from Blair. Brown is one of the greatest Labour Prime Ministers of modern history.
He's definently up there, with Wilson.
I think everyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
It's sad that there's almost a pattern of Labour PMs who are vilified by the media and its only years later that the public realise they weren't so bad.
A lot of our media is right wing. I'd like to see impartiality and decency in our media. It would help to make sure the good politicians
@@Matt-kq3ks I’d say the media tends to be left wing in the US and UK. They don’t like Trump, Boris, Thatcher, etc. The US can’t go 2 minutes without screeching about Donald Trump.
Gordon was never given chance shouldve been PM but stood aside for Tony Blair "optics" nonsense By time given opperchancity Blair screwed it up Shame our loss Even Piers Morgan respects Gordon Brown !
I think everyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
GOLDEN BROWN, TEXTURE LIKE SUNLIGHT
Good to see that Brown has accepted, and has even agreed with Corbyn on key issues.
Brown was no Blair, he's far superior in his character and beliefs compared to them he just didn't believe in Corbyns policies being successful, which is entirely different to disagreeing with him as Blairites do
Brown has always held those stances, which is why i don't understand why the Corbyn wing is so against him. They'll find more in common with brownities than they have against them
which doesn't say much for Brown does it?
Preferred him to Blair but not rock n roll enough for"new labor".Could have been a great Prime minister if allowed to govern earlier. Stitched up by the evil one!
Who is this evil one ?
@@oneilbuchanan8377 he's referring to Blair
this man was and is a realist and good man they did good domestic reform on the whole but new labour loosen end financial rules causing turmoil..they never nationalised rail..tacked electricity and utility companies..and they could of built houses and homes for council and budget purposes...they are judged on what they didn't do...
Being pro Britain is NOT being anti European!
American here. And even I understand the terrible hand that Brown was dealt in the GLOBAL financial crisis and his unfair treatment by the gossipy, sensationalistic media. And that's not taking into account his becoming PM after ten years of Labor government. As far as public opinion, the price of political longevity is an open-mindedness for something new, sometimes regardless of what that "something" might be.
Such an intelligent man and great politician. One of the only MPs who didn’t go to Oxford
It's interesting that he gets a bit of a stiffy when he's talking about our Theresa.
How did it get dark outside so quickly?
Never a frown with this guy
however Golden Brown may invite criticism. - However, the merit of decisions is not always based on the visions in hindsight. If this was true each gambler would be a genius for a brief moment.
That jaw drop gets me everytime!😀😀
Back when labour atleast came accross as professional.
I like Gordon Brown a lot, but he's pissing in the wind suggesting the Tories should get a grip of tax havens. Most if not all of their sponsors are balls deep in them.
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Where was all the gold sold too?
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Today, thanks to Gordon Brown, public bodies are committed to paying a total of £170 billion to contractors in more than 800 PFI schemes up to 2031-2032.
Not sure this interview has aged very well
Glad we still have our crooked five-pound notes ;)
Didn't talk about "New" Labour's disastrous time in government or the clown Tony Blair.
New Labour were very successful. Blair achieved alot. Brown was unlucky in that he presided over the economic crash
jason kingshott That clown Tony Blair won three general elections on the bounce.No other Labour leader has come close to that.
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But he will always be remembered for the illegal war in Iraq, which in turn gave rise to Isis and more terrorism.
Gordon was born the year I left school 1951
The independence of the Bank of England is the single most effective decision for monetary policy in British politics.
Weren't a lot of the worries that he spoke about caused by his party and policies?
Oh yeah my fault!!!! lol
Gordon Brown was and is actually an economic genius.
so that's why he sold our gold?
Yes because holding gold reserves means literally nothing in modern economies
Will go down as a Wise PM ..
I think everyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
Gordon brown should consider he took power after tony Blair but should have remained Canceler of the exchequer because that where his expertise would have complemented the labour party and if tony Blair competed for Prime minister he to would be a credit to labour.
Well he had his own plan. Plus Blair was thrown out
Crash Gordon the man who saved the world...
Yeah I think the tide of populism is slowly changing. People caught up on the wave of the supposed values and forms of expression that social media can offer these last few years. And then more and more people stumble across politicians of 15-20 years ago and look on with envious eyes.
Love it when they say a politician does a "candid" interview. Who are they kidding?
'i don't want to go into it....' hardly 'candid'
...and if we had changed over earlier, things might have been a bit different, yes. Something of an understatement
Hey
I wonder if Gordon Brown is being prepared to replace King Boris. That would be a magic trick by the british establishment
Gordon Brown is a genius, infact Ed balls drew up the plans ro save the banks with his advisors and Gordon , go to 6.00
He stole our pensions
According to Gordon..
Love the way he describes Murnaghan as a CELEBRITY at 8.15. brown knows the score and he also knows it won't end well for Britain unless it tackles it's psychopathy problem. Murnaghan is as mad as a bag of hammers.
Last decent PM
7:51 Typical Sky News and Dermot Murnahan
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How many years has Merkel been in charge? Poor old Brown a decent enough chap but ruled by events not a ruler of events. Blair wanted independence for the BOE because he knew his party would have screwed things up too fast for him to establish himself and his wealth. Brown was one of the crowd surrounding Blair without the vision or leadership to reform and build on Thatchers achievements or to see the impending crash of an out of control financial system used by Blair for his own ends.
THATCHERS ACHIEVEMENTS? SELLING OF BRITAIN?
Sky reporters are so slimy! Shouldn't be surprised: Sky News was spawned by the same organisation that gave us the full glory of Fox News...
Gordons as chancellor was way more unaccountable than any previous holder,
His bitterness with Blair was an unsightly image while in office
He bullied and bellowed his way into no 10. And he reaped the whirlwind of his backstabbing of Blair
I say this as fact not favor
Penny for Pm 🇬🇧
sounds really reasonable. just shows what one does for power. labour sold out under blair, to corporatism and globalisation, and would never have been supported by the sun unless nnod and wink to the city had been given.
How can he comment he sold just about everything we had
He did make some mistakes but he also had Blair and the banking crisis to deal with.
Ed Balls did draw up the plan for the independence of the governance of the Bank of England in 1994 at Labour conference. He now regrets it. It was a terrible decision and was the hallmark of what New Labour got wrong. Deferring responsibility to unaccountable bureaucrats such as this, housing trusts, academy schools, PFI etc. has done nothing good for the economy, has limited democratic accountability and has only widened the gap between the most well off and everyone else in society. I respect Brown but let's hope he can see how this part of his project just didn't work
Such an interesting man. Actually no I take that back.
So when will he shine that mirror of perspective back upon himself for the role he too has played in this country's fall from grace into the EU clutches? Or is it deflect and dodge time for these unpunished traitors?
Shame he bullied David Miliband out of running for the Labour leadership in 2007. He could have won an election, we'd have had no Cameron, and none of the chaos we currently have.
It was so much better when Gordon brown was in power
😂very funny
at least gordon brown didnt start a bloody war
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He voted for the Iraq war.
He is probably like who put me with this bigoted guy 😂😂
The best chancellor ever 👍
I think anyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
the worst
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1:11 I like Jeffrey Corbyn too
The man who saved the world banking system
Pointing at your interviewee does not a good interviewer make.
He was a better Chancellor than Alistar Darling who was awful
I think he was a better PM than David Cameron. Its a damn shame that he lost to Cameron.
After hearing him now, it brings it home that he was never a leader. Also no more boom and bust, and sell my gold. Keep selling council housing. Privatise large parts of UK plc. Should have been on the Tory benches.
Shame he couldn't have distanced himself from Tony Blair he got his stink on his suit.
Better man than Blair was
I think anyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
not diffucult
Very true.
left to carry the can the last time labour spent every thing
I rather have PM Brown than Commissar Corbyn.
He was a excellent Chancellor and he is very intelligent....
I think anyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
He was the last great statesman we had as Prime Minister, Cameron and May were awful Prime Ministers and put themselves and their Party before the country. Brown put the country first Sadly none of May's replacement look any better.
I think everyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
Brown was a genius a great thinker and even now he writes and has handed us the answer to brexit on a silver platter - citizen's assembly. but he never looked like a leader and the shame is Britain now values people who look 'fit to govern' rather than people with the brains and innovation to govern - people like JC
I think everyone on both political sides would take him as PM over the current crop we have to choose from
Other than selling our gold, he was actually a great chancellor... One of the best I'd argue
He's a control freak
What did he say as chancellor - "no more boom or bust" 😃more manufacturering jobs lost under blair than thatcher. One good point his prevention of UK adoption of the euro. His low caught saying "that bigoted woman"