Great video John!! It's always nice to see my fellow CZcamsr colleagues validate what I have been witnessing as well. Turtle Wax has made a great comeback in the past few years and they are serious competitors now. Seal N Shine is such a value for money, and I'm glad to see that you had the gloss meter readings that confirmed what I thought about Ceramic Spray Coating. In my testing, my eyes were telling me that is was slightly glossier compared to Seal N Shine, and this now confirms that I am not crazy. LOL
This is gonna be a popular product Pan. in the UK the seal and shine is currently being sold for £3.55. So the people that dont buy into the "ceramic" stuff can bypass it and still have a very durable glossy product with seal and shine/sealant hydrophobic wax. but those that try the Ceramic Spray I think they are gonna appreciate the wow factor. Just how the car looks and feels after application (yes other SI02 sprays have the wow factor but not with the same durability) its been a while since doing the testing.. On the golf Im noticing the slickness and gloss is lasting out really well and its so very easy to apply. I think its gonna go down well.. Ive tested the wet wax I just need to test the other ones.. but looks like a job well done.. lets hope they unveil some more products next year same time and place!!!! :)
@@ForensicDetailing After applying TW Ceramic Spray and letting it cure for 24 hours - could one use P&S BM as a topper or would that be counterproductive as they are different technologies?
@@reborn_online I use turtle wax ceramic wax spray and does extremely well on my car I place a can like a monster energy drink unopened and slide off my hood
100% if I had more income I’d be a patron supporter to John because the work he does in making these videos takes a lot of time, effort and money but they are so important for us casuals and mortals.
You set the bar VERY high for car detailing information. Your videos, methods and analysis are all amazing. Well done, I really enjoy the education and lack of bias.
Use the Turtle Wax Ceramic "1 Step" (yellow hybrid bottle) for the best price to performance results. Don't use it as instructed, instead, just buff it on a clean, dry car. Spraying one panel at a time. It doesn't streak no where near as bad as Meguairs Ceramic Hybrid, (which is so hard to buff off black cars.) It does buff in super easily compared to other ceramics I've used. But what REALLY surprises me about the Turtle Wax versus any other "ceramic wax" is the performance on wheels. Brake dust is literally a non-issue with Turtle Wax. Megauirs seems to ATTRACT the dust and dirt and those particles seem to "cling" to the coating, which makes cleaning wheels very difficult and time consuming. Since I've switched to the Turtle Wax 1 Step, my wheels still look brand new and clean even after heavy braking. I can't believe how well that stuff works. I'd highly recommend it to anyone.
Excellent review and I have now subscribed. Following these videos I purchased this directly from turtle wax via eBay £15 for 2 bottles (there weren't any other deals at the time). I've used it twice now. Once when the car was wet. It left a bit of a streaky finish that was a bit harder than I expected to buff off. The second time I used it I applied it dry, and was much easier. Thanks for the videos. Please keep them coming.
Very useful video. One thing to keep in mind (since how much you apply is critical to usability) is that the Turtle Wax Ceramic Spray becomes much more difficult to apply consistently once you get to the last 10% or so of the bottle. I also found that the spraying mechanism literally fell apart as the bottle started to run dry. Aside from that, it's a great product (just don't apply too much).
Moonlight is my absolute favourite even though its expensive big fan of fusso also something about the old style paste products I just enjoy using them
Just a thought on the value of a product here: instead of computing the value as the number of applications divided by the cost, one might take the product of the number of applications times the duration of protection divided by the cost.
Great channel John, thanks for delivering accurate non-biased testing. Between you and Brian at Apex here in the states we are getting some excellent advice. Cheers!
I used the turtle wax dry and shine on my wife’s blue convertible two years ago after seeing you do it, I haven’t touched it for 8 months with any and evertime it rains im still amazed how much it still beads. I took a photo the other morning i would like to send you.
I think a better idea for a durability test would be to use simulated dirt/road salt on the panel, let it dry then wash it, it's salt and road grime that ruins protection, not shampoos!
interesting yes. I have my dirt simulator but its very thick. Road grime contains more hydrocarbon solvent.. my test here is detergent based. It might flip the results a lot because fusso does not hold up to solvents as well as it holds up to detergents. ill maybe look into this Rich thanks for this.
@@ForensicDetailing definitely worth a shot, or even grit salt diluted to simulate standing water/melted ice etc. Its my biggest pet peeve with lsps, some will look good and bead strong, but after having road salt/grime sat on for a few days it strongly affects the hydrophobics. I tend to favour ceramics mostly these days.
Great test. I switched to TW Ice Seal N Shine after trying Meguiar's HCW. As you stated, it's very dense and is very hazy and streaky, no doubt from Floridian humidity. It also did not like detailers and would streak horribly. I'm glad they now have a Ceramic Detailer. I'm getting a Griot's Garage G9 polisher for Xmas and will try the new TW Hybrid Solutions Polish & Wax and Ceramic Spray Coating and I'm hoping for the best. Thanks Jon.
Another great video Jon👍. I have used a fair few of the products that you have shown & now a big BH fan & glass cleaning towels you have reviewed inc the Halfords product on interior glass. So a big thank you👍 I have never seen you review Megs Detailer line. Inc Final Touch, X press Wax & Glass Cleaner. I have used these products for many years.
Hope you like it!!! As I commented, I put it on in October after stripping the remaining wax and it's been through Michigan winter. Once the salt is off, it's still all beads. I'm very happy with the seal and shine!!!! Super easy to apply. Crazy durability so far.
Your content, presentation and methodology are superb. You provide an invaluable service to so many people who seriously care about properly caring for the finishes on their cars. Thank you.
I'll have to try the new turtle wax stuff. I've lived them since they came out with the ICE line and still use that. Did an experiment this winter. In October washed and stripped paint, then used seal and shine. Michigan USA winter and it's still going. Once the salt comes off the car or it kinda warms and we get a cold rain that rinses the salt, it's still all beads. I'm very surprised at the seal and shine and you're saying the new ceramic line is better durability, I'm in!!!
I wish you went back to your whiteboard. Moonlight is one of my favorite products and is 25% SiO2. It works amazingly well on truck bed covers and trim.
Technicians Choice TEC582 has been so impressive here in south Florida on black -white and mid colors. I think a good test for Turtle wax . I have both on one hood and I am testing myself. My Kiwami does magic as well.
Fantastic video! Very in-depth just what I was looking for. I watch the debut with you and Jim and pann and the other CZcamsrs at the Resort sponsoring the Turtle Wax new hybrid line. Keep up the great work sir.
I tried the Turtle Wax Spray and Shine after you and Pan gave it amazing reviews. I didn't get good results unfortunately. It was SUPER streaky and a pain to remove. I'd love to try the new product, but I have such a bitter taste in my mouth about the other product.
@UCVBbN8fvqtHylzPb0VotTEA I've literally done one spray onto a microfiber on a squeeky clean car (3 in fact) and had the same issues. I bought it in summer, so I thought it was because it was the heat (not direct sunlight) and had the same issues on a cool cloudy day. I get so much better results with other products. I didn't see the point in fighting to try make it work, when I have products like Liquid Crystal or even BSD that I have no problems with at all. I guess if there wasn't 'personal preference' and there was only "the best," then their wouldn't be a market. It just didn't work for me, over the six months I'd forced myself to go and try again.
It's very interesting to see that the Ceramic SiO2 spray didn't do as well. I was thinking of trying it, but I'm going to either try the new Turtle Wax Ceramic spray or I'll stick with the tried and true Turtle Wax Spray and Seal. It does streak a little, but I've applied on a warm panel - I know, I know, but sometimes it depends on my free time to do the job. And it does get warm here in Los Angeles! Thanks for the great video.
Great video mate. Picked up the Turtle Wax Hydrophobic Sealant today on a whim and I'm impressed how easy it is to apply. I'm using it with other turtle Wax products like their Snow Foam and Zip Wax shampoo, must admit my car feels very slippery 😆
I bought the TW Ceramic spray the other day and have given her 2 coats, so waiting for the rain now to see how it performs. It went on very well though after I washed and clayed the car. Although it says it is suitable for glass, I found it quite hard to polish off despite using a clean cloth, so for paint, plastic, and alloys it’s perfect, but stick to a dedicated glass product for windows.
@@ForensicDetailing Hi mate just a quick question I have been using The turtle wax Show and shine after all the good reviews on it I really love it great price and very versatile However it seems to create a positive charge on the car for dust is like it attracts dust have you noticed this before and is there anything that will help
Great video & analysis. I'm gonna go with turtle wax's ceramic spray, I think it's the true winner here based on performance alone. If it works better I don't mind spending a little extra to use it.
thats good to hears that the "resistance" from wiping these water based sprays means likely better durability. I felt this resistance first with Optimum Car Wax, as opposed to Meguiards D156 which has no resistance.
Great video as always. To me one of the main advantages of the Seal and Shine compared to all the others is that it can be used as a drying aid/lubricant when drying, so you are using the same product that you already have as a base coat as a top-up. Was that a cheeky peak at the beemer in one of the shots? Glad to see that you still have it, we need an update on that ;)
Great test Jon especially as I have all you tested against. I no doubt will get the TW Ceramic although having the others in the test, there’s little point. When does that ever stop me!
Love a good durability test. I have said this before but it is important to remember that chemical resistance is a great quality to have, but it is not the full story for total durability as mechanical durability or just plain weathering and time also needs to be factored in. So whilst in this test Moonlight was the least chemically resistant, it is likely that it would be the most or second most mechanically durable product. Of course, that test would take several months to complete so isn't as instantly gratifying but should be something to consider, especially over winter. In any case, it's great there are so many great products out there. One I would like to see tested (although there has been a recent change) is Wowo's Crystal Sealant. The old version I found excellent for durability, but I never see it tested anywhere. Their Contact 121 Wax is also impressive with a 121 degree contact angle. About as beady as it gets.
yes such an important comment.. and also this type of test favors products of materials on the panel which exhibit hydrophobicity generally. and hydrophobicity is one element of "protection" some argue the least important element actually.
I use tw SS left my car outside in the elements for 5 months, rain still beads off the windows and paint only the windshield where the wipers are completely gone.
D In Detailing what's been your durability for QP ON 2.0 by itself? I've been trying to find some detailed posts talking about it's durability, but it's been difficult to get legitimate reports on durability
@@Twiztid_Metal I haven't had it on a year yet so it's hard to for me to say. I've used it on a couple customer vehicles and no complaints what so ever. My general impression though is that if you properly prepare the paint, trim and glass you should see 12-18 months. One tip IF you decide to go that route is to use every drop of it. If you compete your vehicle take the left over into the house. Great for mirrors, shower doors ( any solid surface that could get wet ). If not ... your spray bottle will look weird and may malfunction after about two weeks or so.
D In Detailing I greatly appreciate your feedback. As we both know, there is a lot of snake oil on the detailing industry, so something that claims with a 20:1 ratio it'll provide protection for 12 months makes me a little hesitant to buy. I'm currently using up the rest of the TW Seal n Shine, so I may order a smaller bottle of QP ON 2.0 instead of the newer TW Ceramic Spray.
@@Twiztid_Metal I totally understand! I've gone through this same dilemma for a long time. There are a few YT channels that I trust and use to compare notes if there's something that interests me. I suggest checking out Brian from Apex Detailing. He's done a few videos on the QP ON system. Hell....Brian is the reason I went and got some. I had never heard of it before. Brian has long term data as he's used it in a production environment for about 2yrs now. Videos are really informative. As a bonus ..he will reply to emails. If you really want some solid no BS insight reach out to him. The 2 top detailing channels imo ( no sales, gimmicks, or fluff ) are John's ( here ) and Brian over at Apex Detail. On a side note...I tend to go for more look than protection. I guess there's balance there but I lean gloss and shine. If I get something that gives me enough protection to make it through a Michigan winter ( 6-9 ) months I'm generally happy. I enjoy doing a full detail once year ( maybe I'm weird ) but understand it may not be for everyone. Hope you find what your looking for....take care!
I’m betting in a few months you’ll be able to get TW Ceramic for $5 less just like Mcquiars. The ease of putting on TW ceramic is worth it to me. So easy to wipe on and off, and the polish is just as easy to use. Bottle will last a one or two car person easily a year + too.
Hi from OZ John just found a couple of places to get the product,buuuut man is it priced over the top,from nearly $50 to get this $76 i think Turtle Wax are going to lose a lot of sales because of this,ive been using Meguiars for years here, their not cheap either,was going to change over but Meguiars prices are nothing like the new T-Wax though, love your U-Tube channel keep it up mate
76 ozzy dollars is nearly 40 quid. I would just tell turtle wax mate. maybe they are not aware. We can get seal and shine in the UK for 3.50 or a fiver. typically.
@@ForensicDetailing even seal and shine is in the high twenty's,yes mate we get it shoved up the rear end when it comes to prices. Ive tried the seal &shine after watching your posts and i do like it,by the way love the beama
IMHO, nothing beats Fusso Coat on a well prepped car, Sonax BSD as drying aid and Done and Dusted Si Edition as sacrificial layer once a month. Best value for money and amazing performance under the British weather.
fusso or bsd are not my favorites,but its so personal isnt it... I understand why people pick them and are happy, and I like love the fact they are monsters in terms of durability and water behvaiour for great value.. but for me Sonax BSD is not a great drying aid.. I want slick and slippy as a drying aid, I just find it too glupey and stiff. if I wax as well I tend to want to use a nuba dominant product for how they look.
@@ForensicDetailing I really don't have any issues with BSD as a drying aid. I use another bottle that sprays a mist and dilute it down 70/30 with Megs Last Touch. I like that it leaves no streaks nor does it need buffing when used this way. Granted it is not as enjoyable as applying something like DDsi but it's a bead monster that is really durable and cheap! And it matches well the synthetic nature of Fusso.
@@DavidC1 in2detailing is the UK rep. If Jon was in the states I would have already visited him, done a video and he would have the full product line. But that's how I do things here. 🤷♂️
I have looked at many waxing videos and the seal and shine has done the best in resisting harsh chemicals in almost every video. I the US at Walmart it sells for $10.78 USD and that is after taxes are added.
The Meguires label tells you you *should* apply it over old wax instead of claying. I found even with claying and polishing the car it doesn't last very long, but in fairness nothing does in the California sun.
Have you thought of doing a test to find the best Turtle Wax spray? Putting their Ceramic spray, Sealant hydrophobic Wax and Dry & Shine Rinse Wax against each other.
Brilliant video and once again covers all topics in detail. There should be a hell of a lot more subscribers to this channel and I really hope people support Jon on Patreon also. Content is the best on CZcams and most important of all non bias and brutally honest. Big thumbs up. 👍🏻
Awesome video Jon! That where some heavy hitters you put the new TW Hybrid Solution Ceramic Spray Coating against. Impressed with it's durability and the gloss from it. Will see how it's priced here in Sweden when it comes here. It looks like when you use these Hybrid Solution line of products you can get an awesome synergy on your vehicals protection. The HS Ceramic Polish and Wax as the primer and after the 24h cure time apply the Ceramic Spray Coating and maybe another 24h if possible to get 2 layers off it on the paint. It's just for me personally I like to test out different products on my car LOL. But still have this as a base protection and then if wanted to get outside of the TW products could work great. And if it's so durable that you would get a year of longevity from it. Then start over with a polishing step with the Ceramic Polish and Wax and top it with Ceramic Spray Coating again. Say that I would have this TW HS Ceramic Polish and Wax and Ceramic Spray Coating as the base protection. Then maintance washes with wash products that don't leave anything behind as in protection and glossenhancers. Since it seems to the highest hydrophobic performance wears off quite quickly. Would it be a good thing to just put on another coat with the HS Ceramic Spray Coating every month? Just to keep the hydrophobic performance from it as high as possible during the year before I would be doing a polishing step again. As you get a good amount of the HS Ceramic Spray Coating and since the SiO2 in it may not last over a couple of years before it hardens in the bottle. And if you have a car or 2 you can have some of the HS Ceramic Spray Coating left after a couple of years if you use it yearly and top it with another HS product. Have noticed this with other SiO2 products that they have a year of shelf life or just a little more. So it would not be waisting product but more use it up. Looking forward to see the more in depth video. And other videos about the prep work you have mentioned in other comments.
Great test John, i'm glad Tyrtle Wax won. I have used a number of these products and they hang on well on the top half of the car but are flat within a week or two on th elower half of the side in the wet weather here in Manchester, i'm wondering if there is some abrasion going on from the raod debris fitting the panels. Could you recreate this wear and tear in a test, perhaps using a snow foam to with dirty/salty water? Keep up the good work!!
I enjoy your videos but...What I am really interested in, is how easy it is to clean a dirty car after using a particular product. It is all well and good looking at sheeting and droplets on the car and repeatedly spraying a clean surface but I don't care how the water runs off or forms droplets. I've used the Turtle Wax Spray Sealant (ranked #1 in your test) and IMO it is useless for shrugging off dirt. I rinsed, snow-foamed and rinsed and there is still a distinct layer of fine dirt on the car (2 year old, low milage, MB living in a garage). Perhaps I'm expecting too much of these products but I really feel tests should reflect real life so we can see how easily the dirt comes off as well as making the car look good. My ideal product would be something that can provide a "touchless" wash.
The mrs brought me the turtle wax sealant hydrophobic was about 2 wks ago and I tried it on my car last Sunday. Loved the ease of application and the shine and smoothness it gave, the smoothness was comparative to power lock I felt. I agree with what you said about its ability to bead its good but not a bead monster although I think it’s a good sheeter. Gonna be interesting to see how long it lasts in real world daily driving. One thing I have noticed is that the dirt does seem to be attracted to it, mind you we are in the winter so more crap is getting thrown up and being a white car it’s more noticeable. Awesome review jon, are you going to do a mega test again soon ?
Fuck yeah !!!! Love ya John I am switching from Fuso to tw ceramic spray as my only coating detailing cars. Son friendly, more gloss , easier and quicker application, better smell. Mmmmmm
I honestly don't think you can beat Fusso Coat...for an amateur like me I find it far outlasts Meguires Ceramic and Turtle Wax Hydrophobic. Shame it's being discontinued, I wonder why?...Hopefully they'll change their mind and start selling it again.
I'm still waiting for TW to reach the SOuth East Asia which I'm pretty sure will be double the price once it gets here. In the mean time, Meguiars HCW seems to be doing a great job on my car so far under our super wet,super hot weather here.
Great video as per, would like to have seen BSD in there maybe? Cant believe turtle wax want 18£ its 14$ in the US, I'm still undecided on the new turtle wax range maybe because its turtle wax? Idk, so I'm looking foward to the reviews on the rest of their new range!! Thank you 👍
Great video Jon! Very informative. I've been using the wet wax version the last few days as a drying aid on a couple of rinseless washed vehicles one coated with 303 touchless and the other Hydrocharge and it worked great in both cases. I noticed it took a few hours for both to reach max shine so there seems to be a cure time involved. It played well with each product.
Another excellent video... I've only recently discovered your channel (which I have obviously subscribed to) and the detail you go into is phenomenal. Really excellent work. If you could answer a question... After using a sealant wax, would using a spray detailer (say a week or 2 later for example) start to breakdown the the wax? I'm just still a little confused between applying detailer vs sealants/ceramic waxes. Thanks 👍🏼
Great video. Interesting result, especially given the discounts seen recently for the TW Hybrid Sealant (I ordered from ECP for £3.57 a bottle yesterday). I would like to have seen Bouncers Done and Dusted Si Edition in the test or a future spray on sealant group test, as this is my go to product. A few layers and it performs very well, so easy to apply and very slick. Not expensive especially in 5L quantity.
DandD SI wont compete with these products on durability. but its just a different sort of thing really more like reall nice SI detail spray you could use every wash. The products in these test are very very durable.
Great video... interesting results in that despite the carefully compiled numbers that would suggest certain conclusions, Moonlight is still your preference. High intangible factor?
yer have a read of what I said to the other chap above. the points help me pick winners but theres a difference between these tests and sort of real life. moonlight is unique comapred to these products.
Great video as always John! I don't know if it is related with it but my question is: Can you use any of these products instead of Reload and Cure after applying a ceramic coating for preventing waters spots?
moonlight, fusso and Seal and Shine no.. TW ceramic spray and meguiars more so or yes. (Ive not tested but in theory they would be good). I tend to like to use products specifically from the same manufacturer with a ceramic.. so if Im using CP I would prolly combo it with CP products for guernetee'd results
Well done Dave I'm just hoping that they at turtle Wax HQ do not start to water down spray and shine because it is in my opinion stamping all over the other products and so it is absolutely genius I'm really hoping that there new paste wax in a tin yes if it's in a f****** tin it's wax with graphene he'd and whatever else it's got in it is going to be durable but spray and shine my god how easy how durable what a product going to give it till September and if I find that the new graphene turtle Wax isn't that good I'm going to buy a pot of soft 99 and back it up with spray and shine
@@BrianW1612 Not at all. KOG is about the same. I have both, so I can confirm this. If you even look at the ratings by Soft99, Fusso is a 5 in hydrophobic and KOG is a 4.5. Your eye's will not be able to tell a difference.
@@SnakeDoctor5104 KOG is a add on to the fusso coat and it would not last as long, but since it's a add on you can clean the car and then add a new layer of KOG. Im looking forward to see how it's going to look on my Mercedes when I got the time to polish it.
Could you clarify this thing up for me, if you apply a coat of the new Turtle wax ceramic spray and wait the 24hrs for cure time but for eg it rains during that 24hrs and the car gets wet, does it stop the curing ?....just asking as I would like to apply 2 layers of it but you have to wait 24hrs between coats and I was thinking if it rains and stops the curing effect, does it make any sense to add another layer....Any advice?
it wont stop curing if it gets wet... But while a product is still curing its more vulnerable to being broken down.. so its less about getting it wet but more about washing it with detergents I think. you could apply one coating in the morning. and one in the afternoon and I recon you would be fine.. not tested though. Im not sure if I would wait 24 hours between coats..
Thanks Jon! I think I will try it and let you know how it turns out but if you ever think about running a video on the result of a few hour vs 24 hrs curing, let me know. Thanks again.
Great video John!! It's always nice to see my fellow CZcamsr colleagues validate what I have been witnessing as well. Turtle Wax has made a great comeback in the past few years and they are serious competitors now. Seal N Shine is such a value for money, and I'm glad to see that you had the gloss meter readings that confirmed what I thought about Ceramic Spray Coating. In my testing, my eyes were telling me that is was slightly glossier compared to Seal N Shine, and this now confirms that I am not crazy. LOL
This is gonna be a popular product Pan. in the UK the seal and shine is currently being sold for £3.55. So the people that dont buy into the "ceramic" stuff can bypass it and still have a very durable glossy product with seal and shine/sealant hydrophobic wax. but those that try the Ceramic Spray I think they are gonna appreciate the wow factor. Just how the car looks and feels after application (yes other SI02 sprays have the wow factor but not with the same durability)
its been a while since doing the testing.. On the golf Im noticing the slickness and gloss is lasting out really well and its so very easy to apply. I think its gonna go down well.. Ive tested the wet wax I just need to test the other ones.. but looks like a job well done.. lets hope they unveil some more products next year same time and place!!!! :)
@@ForensicDetailing After applying TW Ceramic Spray and letting it cure for 24 hours - could one use P&S BM as a topper or would that be counterproductive as they are different technologies?
Great thing you share PAN THANKS
@@JeLifeCoach did you ever try this?
I like the fact that you have taken detailed notes, and are seen reading them while on camera, rather than going from memory. Very professional.
Anyone else here use these videos as a benchmark to pick your next product or is it just me 😅
I did!!! Not impressed with the Turtle Wax ceramic spray through. I feel duped!
@@reborn_online I use turtle wax ceramic wax spray and does extremely well on my car I place a can like a monster energy drink unopened and slide off my hood
Definitely, an incredibly useful channel this!
100% if I had more income I’d be a patron supporter to John because the work he does in making these videos takes a lot of time, effort and money but they are so important for us casuals and mortals.
Neighbour's: His washing a bonnet over and over again,that isn't even fitted to the car.😀👍
lol :) hes cleaned it 25 times already!
That is funny. They prob think you've got mental issues... also he's talking gibberish to himself. 🤣🤣
@@cjin0101 this has the makings of a classic B movie horror. 'The Detailer'
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You set the bar VERY high for car detailing information. Your videos, methods and analysis are all amazing. Well done, I really enjoy the education and lack of bias.
This and the Apex detailing channel are by far my favourite channels!!? Excellent info as always Sir
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There are detailing channels and then there's forensic detailing.
its the only one i watch lol
Yea this guy is next level
Best guy, honest and not double face !
the more channels I see testing products the more I realise where they get their ideas from
Excellent info Jon!!! Loved to see the durability tests and how the new Turtlewax Ceramic Spray Coating beat them all!! 😎👍🏼
Use the Turtle Wax Ceramic "1 Step" (yellow hybrid bottle) for the best price to performance results. Don't use it as instructed, instead, just buff it on a clean, dry car. Spraying one panel at a time. It doesn't streak no where near as bad as Meguairs Ceramic Hybrid, (which is so hard to buff off black cars.) It does buff in super easily compared to other ceramics I've used. But what REALLY surprises me about the Turtle Wax versus any other "ceramic wax" is the performance on wheels. Brake dust is literally a non-issue with Turtle Wax. Megauirs seems to ATTRACT the dust and dirt and those particles seem to "cling" to the coating, which makes cleaning wheels very difficult and time consuming. Since I've switched to the Turtle Wax 1 Step, my wheels still look brand new and clean even after heavy braking. I can't believe how well that stuff works. I'd highly recommend it to anyone.
Excellent review and I have now subscribed. Following these videos I purchased this directly from turtle wax via eBay £15 for 2 bottles (there weren't any other deals at the time). I've used it twice now. Once when the car was wet. It left a bit of a streaky finish that was a bit harder than I expected to buff off. The second time I used it I applied it dry, and was much easier. Thanks for the videos. Please keep them coming.
HCWs application is definitely going to be much better with the upcoming Liquid version in 2020. Can’t wait to see testing on that.
Very useful video. One thing to keep in mind (since how much you apply is critical to usability) is that the Turtle Wax Ceramic Spray becomes much more difficult to apply consistently once you get to the last 10% or so of the bottle. I also found that the spraying mechanism literally fell apart as the bottle started to run dry. Aside from that, it's a great product (just don't apply too much).
Moonlight is my absolute favourite even though its expensive big fan of fusso also something about the old style paste products I just enjoy using them
We like it too 😬
Just a thought on the value of a product here: instead of computing the value as the number of applications divided by the cost, one might take the product of the number of applications times the duration of protection divided by the cost.
Exactly, if the ceramic spray last 12 months then that's probably twice as long as your average wax.
Great channel John, thanks for delivering accurate non-biased testing. Between you and Brian at Apex here in the states we are getting some excellent advice. Cheers!
And there were two, no other !
I used the turtle wax dry and shine on my wife’s blue convertible two years ago after seeing you do it, I haven’t touched it for 8 months with any and evertime it rains im still amazed how much it still beads. I took a photo the other morning i would like to send you.
I think a better idea for a durability test would be to use simulated dirt/road salt on the panel, let it dry then wash it, it's salt and road grime that ruins protection, not shampoos!
Richard M Good point👍🏻 Always found the road grime always ruins my protection - especially in the winter!
@@DiiZeh_ yup, especially round the lowers, etc. That kind of durability is where I put my money.
@@convergecult I am a Tac fan but it will not last in winter on the lowers.
interesting yes. I have my dirt simulator but its very thick. Road grime contains more hydrocarbon solvent.. my test here is detergent based. It might flip the results a lot because fusso does not hold up to solvents as well as it holds up to detergents. ill maybe look into this Rich thanks for this.
@@ForensicDetailing definitely worth a shot, or even grit salt diluted to simulate standing water/melted ice etc. Its my biggest pet peeve with lsps, some will look good and bead strong, but after having road salt/grime sat on for a few days it strongly affects the hydrophobics. I tend to favour ceramics mostly these days.
Fantastic video, Jon!👏🏻
Absolutely love the honest, thorough detail you go to for these videos. Really appreciate the effort!👍🏻
Great test. I switched to TW Ice Seal N Shine after trying Meguiar's HCW. As you stated, it's very dense and is very hazy and streaky, no doubt from Floridian humidity. It also did not like detailers and would streak horribly. I'm glad they now have a Ceramic Detailer. I'm getting a Griot's Garage G9 polisher for Xmas and will try the new TW Hybrid Solutions Polish & Wax and Ceramic Spray Coating and I'm hoping for the best. Thanks Jon.
Finally, someone agrees with me in saying that the new version of Fusso Coat 12M isn't as potent as the old one.
I went on eBay and tracked down a couple of original tins of fusso coat. I live in Hawaii and ordered them from guys in Russia. Worth it.
Another great video Jon👍.
I have used a fair few of the products that you have shown & now a big BH fan & glass cleaning towels you have reviewed inc the Halfords product on interior glass. So a big thank you👍
I have never seen you review Megs Detailer line. Inc Final Touch, X press Wax & Glass Cleaner. I have used these products for many years.
Washed the car today and about to apply my seal and shine and the good old British weather kicked in ☹️ can't wait to get the stuff on my car.
Hope you like it!!! As I commented, I put it on in October after stripping the remaining wax and it's been through Michigan winter. Once the salt is off, it's still all beads.
I'm very happy with the seal and shine!!!! Super easy to apply. Crazy durability so far.
Your content, presentation and methodology are superb. You provide an invaluable service to so many people who seriously care about properly caring for the finishes on their cars. Thank you.
I'll have to try the new turtle wax stuff. I've lived them since they came out with the ICE line and still use that.
Did an experiment this winter. In October washed and stripped paint, then used seal and shine.
Michigan USA winter and it's still going.
Once the salt comes off the car or it kinda warms and we get a cold rain that rinses the salt, it's still all beads.
I'm very surprised at the seal and shine and you're saying the new ceramic line is better durability, I'm in!!!
I wish you went back to your whiteboard. Moonlight is one of my favorite products and is 25% SiO2. It works amazingly well on truck bed covers and trim.
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Ed don’t worry everyone know moonlight is better
Nobody wants turtle wax ...they should change their name to ceramic wax
Technicians Choice TEC582 has been so impressive here in south Florida on black -white and mid colors. I think a good test for Turtle wax . I have both on one hood and I am testing myself. My Kiwami does magic as well.
The Professor does it again. 👏👏
Great video.
Fantastic video! Very in-depth just what I was looking for. I watch the debut with you and Jim and pann and the other CZcamsrs at the Resort sponsoring the Turtle Wax new hybrid line. Keep up the great work sir.
Subscribed as soon as I saw this dude. Just looked the real deal detailing boffin. The quality content justified my decision
I tried the Turtle Wax Spray and Shine after you and Pan gave it amazing reviews. I didn't get good results unfortunately. It was SUPER streaky and a pain to remove. I'd love to try the new product, but I have such a bitter taste in my mouth about the other product.
a lot of people (or lets say some) say this about seal and shine, I just dont see if. but will do more on this subject matter soon.
@UCVBbN8fvqtHylzPb0VotTEA I've literally done one spray onto a microfiber on a squeeky clean car (3 in fact) and had the same issues. I bought it in summer, so I thought it was because it was the heat (not direct sunlight) and had the same issues on a cool cloudy day.
I get so much better results with other products. I didn't see the point in fighting to try make it work, when I have products like Liquid Crystal or even BSD that I have no problems with at all.
I guess if there wasn't 'personal preference' and there was only "the best," then their wouldn't be a market. It just didn't work for me, over the six months I'd forced myself to go and try again.
Pan will say anything for a few quid though.
@@haroldchipman7696 yeah, i think the same.
Chicken Chargrilla Agree, always found his reviews are always positive and more like a sponsored advert instead of feeling honest and constructive.
Another great video, appreciate your opinions and taking the time and effort to put these videos together.
Forensic detailing has clearly stepped his game up to the next level!#GREATNESS
Lots of good info for people to make an informed choice Jon. Thank you👍
Thank John for the best video :) all products that I am interested in one video :)
It's very interesting to see that the Ceramic SiO2 spray didn't do as well. I was thinking of trying it, but I'm going to either try the new Turtle Wax Ceramic spray or I'll stick with the tried and true Turtle Wax Spray and Seal. It does streak a little, but I've applied on a warm panel - I know, I know, but sometimes it depends on my free time to do the job. And it does get warm here in Los Angeles!
Thanks for the great video.
Moonlight is still my favorite as well.
Excellent review. You are very detailed and I enjoyed learning from you. Thank you!
Great video mate. Picked up the Turtle Wax Hydrophobic Sealant today on a whim and I'm impressed how easy it is to apply. I'm using it with other turtle Wax products like their Snow Foam and Zip Wax shampoo, must admit my car feels very slippery 😆
Moonlight last, John, noooo. It’s still my fave haha
can't beat seal and shine for bang for the buck!💯
I bought the TW Ceramic spray the other day and have given her 2 coats, so waiting for the rain now to see how it performs. It went on very well though after I washed and clayed the car. Although it says it is suitable for glass, I found it quite hard to polish off despite using a clean cloth, so for paint, plastic, and alloys it’s perfect, but stick to a dedicated glass product for windows.
Did you have 3 sniffs of Fusso coat before that intro 😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙊🙊
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@@ForensicDetailing Hi mate just a quick question I have been using The turtle wax Show and shine after all the good reviews on it I really love it great price and very versatile However it seems to create a positive charge on the car for dust is like it attracts dust have you noticed this before and is there anything that will help
@@mitchellpaterson7062 use a better quality microfiber... that might be the problem in my opinion
Mitchell Paterson quick hack to fix this would be to not use it 😂😂😂😂😂
David C haha man gives me the shit listening to the sniffs took a shot for every time he sniffed I was off my head by the 5th minute
This video is exactly what I’ve been looking for.
Well done and thanks 🙏🏻
thank you sir for that apprecaite it.
You are a Godsent. Any product Im interested you have the best review/comparison videos.
Wow, thank you
Will test Turtle Wax Ceramic for sure. It looks way easier to apply that the gyeon I used last year.
Which Gyeon?
Love your channel boss. Can’t wait for these products to come out in Canada.
New TW products launched in Canada earlier this month (1st)
Great video & analysis. I'm gonna go with turtle wax's ceramic spray, I think it's the true winner here based on performance alone. If it works better I don't mind spending a little extra to use it.
thats good to hears that the "resistance" from wiping these water based sprays means likely better durability.
I felt this resistance first with Optimum Car Wax, as opposed to Meguiards D156 which has no resistance.
Great video as always. To me one of the main advantages of the Seal and Shine compared to all the others is that it can be used as a drying aid/lubricant when drying, so you are using the same product that you already have as a base coat as a top-up. Was that a cheeky peak at the beemer in one of the shots? Glad to see that you still have it, we need an update on that ;)
Great test Jon especially as I have all you tested against. I no doubt will get the TW Ceramic although having the others in the test, there’s little point. When does that ever stop me!
Excellent update as always.....keep em coming 👍
The Turtkewax ceramic can be picked up on AMZ for £11.50, so that would make it the top of the test (I think)!
Love a good durability test. I have said this before but it is important to remember that chemical resistance is a great quality to have, but it is not the full story for total durability as mechanical durability or just plain weathering and time also needs to be factored in.
So whilst in this test Moonlight was the least chemically resistant, it is likely that it would be the most or second most mechanically durable product. Of course, that test would take several months to complete so isn't as instantly gratifying but should be something to consider, especially over winter.
In any case, it's great there are so many great products out there. One I would like to see tested (although there has been a recent change) is Wowo's Crystal Sealant. The old version I found excellent for durability, but I never see it tested anywhere. Their Contact 121 Wax is also impressive with a 121 degree contact angle. About as beady as it gets.
yes such an important comment.. and also this type of test favors products of materials on the panel which exhibit hydrophobicity generally. and hydrophobicity is one element of "protection" some argue the least important element actually.
big smile on my face when i heard theres a 45min version coming :D :D :D
I use tw SS left my car outside in the elements for 5 months, rain still beads off the windows and paint only the windshield where the wipers are completely gone.
Moonlight on top of QP ON 2.0 does the trick for me. Great video!
D In Detailing what's been your durability for QP ON 2.0 by itself? I've been trying to find some detailed posts talking about it's durability, but it's been difficult to get legitimate reports on durability
@@Twiztid_Metal I haven't had it on a year yet so it's hard to for me to say. I've used it on a couple customer vehicles and no complaints what so ever. My general impression though is that if you properly prepare the paint, trim and glass you should see 12-18 months. One tip IF you decide to go that route is to use every drop of it. If you compete your vehicle take the left over into the house. Great for mirrors, shower doors ( any solid surface that could get wet ). If not ... your spray bottle will look weird and may malfunction after about two weeks or so.
D In Detailing I greatly appreciate your feedback. As we both know, there is a lot of snake oil on the detailing industry, so something that claims with a 20:1 ratio it'll provide protection for 12 months makes me a little hesitant to buy. I'm currently using up the rest of the TW Seal n Shine, so I may order a smaller bottle of QP ON 2.0 instead of the newer TW Ceramic Spray.
@@Twiztid_Metal I totally understand! I've gone through this same dilemma for a long time. There are a few YT channels that I trust and use to compare notes if there's something that interests me. I suggest checking out Brian from Apex Detailing. He's done a few videos on the QP ON system. Hell....Brian is the reason I went and got some. I had never heard of it before. Brian has long term data as he's used it in a production environment for about 2yrs now. Videos are really informative. As a bonus ..he will reply to emails. If you really want some solid no BS insight reach out to him. The 2 top detailing channels imo ( no sales, gimmicks, or fluff ) are John's ( here ) and Brian over at Apex Detail.
On a side note...I tend to go for more look than protection. I guess there's balance there but I lean gloss and shine. If I get something that gives me enough protection to make it through a Michigan winter ( 6-9 ) months I'm generally happy. I enjoy doing a full detail once year ( maybe I'm weird ) but understand it may not be for everyone.
Hope you find what your looking for....take care!
I’m betting in a few months you’ll be able to get TW Ceramic for $5 less just like Mcquiars. The ease of putting on TW ceramic is worth it to me. So easy to wipe on and off, and the polish is just as easy to use. Bottle will last a one or two car person easily a year + too.
Hi from OZ John just found a couple of places to get the product,buuuut man is it priced over the top,from nearly $50 to get this $76 i think Turtle Wax are going to lose a lot of sales because of this,ive been using Meguiars for years here, their not cheap either,was going to change over but Meguiars prices are nothing like the new T-Wax though, love your U-Tube channel keep it up mate
76 ozzy dollars is nearly 40 quid. I would just tell turtle wax mate. maybe they are not aware. We can get seal and shine in the UK for 3.50 or a fiver. typically.
@@ForensicDetailing even seal and shine is in the high twenty's,yes mate we get it shoved up the rear end when it comes to prices. Ive tried the seal &shine after watching your posts and i do like it,by the way love the beama
You`ve hung your cabinet the wrong way up. Love your videos, thanks.
IMHO, nothing beats Fusso Coat on a well prepped car, Sonax BSD as drying aid and Done and Dusted Si Edition as sacrificial layer once a month. Best value for money and amazing performance under the British weather.
fusso or bsd are not my favorites,but its so personal isnt it... I understand why people pick them and are happy, and I like love the fact they are monsters in terms of durability and water behvaiour for great value.. but for me Sonax BSD is not a great drying aid.. I want slick and slippy as a drying aid, I just find it too glupey and stiff. if I wax as well I tend to want to use a nuba dominant product for how they look.
@@ForensicDetailing I really don't have any issues with BSD as a drying aid. I use another bottle that sprays a mist and dilute it down 70/30 with Megs Last Touch. I like that it leaves no streaks nor does it need buffing when used this way. Granted it is not as enjoyable as applying something like DDsi but it's a bead monster that is really durable and cheap! And it matches well the synthetic nature of Fusso.
tac systems seems to be expanding in the USA.
Taking over! Watch out this coming year!
TAC System USA get the boys to send Jon more goodies to test out. He’s on shot streak and needs more products!
@@DavidC1 in2detailing is the UK rep. If Jon was in the states I would have already visited him, done a video and he would have the full product line. But that's how I do things here. 🤷♂️
@@tacsystemusa1702 Cook up some goodies to put turtle wax back in its place.
@@DavidC1 🤫 you'll see. In mean time, check out waterglass spray and rinse sealant, also mystic water repellant shampoo 😬
I have looked at many waxing videos and the seal and shine has done the best in resisting harsh chemicals in almost every video.
I the US at Walmart it sells for $10.78 USD and that is after taxes are added.
im not 100% sure its the same as the hydrophobic sealant wax. we have different chem regs in the UK might be some components which are different.
@@ForensicDetailing Maybe not but the bottle is exactly the same.I wax my truck once a year and in between I use this product
around every 3 months.
The Meguires label tells you you *should* apply it over old wax instead of claying.
I found even with claying and polishing the car it doesn't last very long, but in fairness nothing does in the California sun.
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I'm a total buff 🚘🏍💪
I love restorations
No matter the age of the car
Have you thought of doing a test to find the best Turtle Wax spray? Putting their Ceramic spray, Sealant hydrophobic Wax and Dry & Shine Rinse Wax against each other.
Brilliant video and once again covers all topics in detail. There should be a hell of a lot more subscribers to this channel and I really hope people support Jon on Patreon also. Content is the best on CZcams and most important of all non bias and brutally honest.
Big thumbs up. 👍🏻
Awesome video Jon!
That where some heavy hitters you put the new TW Hybrid Solution Ceramic Spray Coating against. Impressed with it's durability and the gloss from it. Will see how it's priced here in Sweden when it comes here. It looks like when you use these Hybrid Solution line of products you can get an awesome synergy on your vehicals protection. The HS Ceramic Polish and Wax as the primer and after the 24h cure time apply the Ceramic Spray Coating and maybe another 24h if possible to get 2 layers off it on the paint. It's just for me personally I like to test out different products on my car LOL. But still have this as a base protection and then if wanted to get outside of the TW products could work great. And if it's so durable that you would get a year of longevity from it. Then start over with a polishing step with the Ceramic Polish and Wax and top it with Ceramic Spray Coating again.
Say that I would have this TW HS Ceramic Polish and Wax and Ceramic Spray Coating as the base protection. Then maintance washes with wash products that don't leave anything behind as in protection and glossenhancers. Since it seems to the highest hydrophobic performance wears off quite quickly. Would it be a good thing to just put on another coat with the HS Ceramic Spray Coating every month? Just to keep the hydrophobic performance from it as high as possible during the year before I would be doing a polishing step again. As you get a good amount of the HS Ceramic Spray Coating and since the SiO2 in it may not last over a couple of years before it hardens in the bottle. And if you have a car or 2 you can have some of the HS Ceramic Spray Coating left after a couple of years if you use it yearly and top it with another HS product. Have noticed this with other SiO2 products that they have a year of shelf life or just a little more. So it would not be waisting product but more use it up.
Looking forward to see the more in depth video. And other videos about the prep work you have mentioned in other comments.
spot on Tony. Ceramic polish and ceramic spray gonna be the most popular combo i think. I need to get stuck into the ceramic polish testing soon.
Please can we see how the ceramic polish does by hand?
Best test I have seen only thing I didn’t see was a good light visual comparison and which one he though had best shine.
Great test John, i'm glad Tyrtle Wax won.
I have used a number of these products and they hang on well on the top half of the car but are flat within a week or two on th elower half of the side in the wet weather here in Manchester, i'm wondering if there is some abrasion going on from the raod debris fitting the panels.
Could you recreate this wear and tear in a test, perhaps using a snow foam to with dirty/salty water?
Keep up the good work!!
Magnificent job and well done sir!!
Keep up the amazing work 😄
I really wish you could do a durability test for the Shinee wax.
Thanks again 😄
I think I did see the best detail spray video the most recent one.
Cheers mate loving the videos!!
That’s 🧪! Thanks for doing such a fair test with the video evidence!!!
Hybrid solution needs a durability test against...The Last Coat, spray sealant. A must & more to compare.
I enjoy your videos but...What I am really interested in, is how easy it is to clean a dirty car after using a particular product. It is all well and good looking at sheeting and droplets on the car and repeatedly spraying a clean surface but I don't care how the water runs off or forms droplets. I've used the Turtle Wax Spray Sealant (ranked #1 in your test) and IMO it is useless for shrugging off dirt. I rinsed, snow-foamed and rinsed and there is still a distinct layer of fine dirt on the car (2 year old, low milage, MB living in a garage). Perhaps I'm expecting too much of these products but I really feel tests should reflect real life so we can see how easily the dirt comes off as well as making the car look good. My ideal product would be something that can provide a "touchless" wash.
The mrs brought me the turtle wax sealant hydrophobic was about 2 wks ago and I tried it on my car last Sunday. Loved the ease of application and the shine and smoothness it gave, the smoothness was comparative to power lock I felt. I agree with what you said about its ability to bead its good but not a bead monster although I think it’s a good sheeter. Gonna be interesting to see how long it lasts in real world daily driving. One thing I have noticed is that the dirt does seem to be attracted to it, mind you we are in the winter so more crap is getting thrown up and being a white car it’s more noticeable. Awesome review jon, are you going to do a mega test again soon ?
You can tell there is a lot of time and effort put into theese tests. Love it!
Fuck yeah !!!!
Love ya John
I am switching from Fuso to tw ceramic spray as my only coating detailing cars.
Son friendly, more gloss , easier and quicker application, better smell.
Mmmmmm
Looking forward to a re-run of this with the new Turtle Wax pro products when we get them in the UK.
I honestly don't think you can beat Fusso Coat...for an amateur like me I find it far outlasts Meguires Ceramic and Turtle Wax Hydrophobic. Shame it's being discontinued, I wonder why?...Hopefully they'll change their mind and start selling it again.
I'm still waiting for TW to reach the SOuth East Asia which I'm pretty sure will be double the price once it gets here. In the mean time, Meguiars HCW seems to be doing a great job on my car so far under our super wet,super hot weather here.
you better believe it mate outrageous one place in Queensland Aust., on Ebay $76,robbery.
Great video as per, would like to have seen BSD in there maybe? Cant believe turtle wax want 18£ its 14$ in the US, I'm still undecided on the new turtle wax range maybe because its turtle wax? Idk, so I'm looking foward to the reviews on the rest of their new range!! Thank you 👍
BSD wont keep up with these products on durability Daz. its pretty cool but to as strong as these.
Great video Jon! Very informative. I've been using the wet wax version the last few days as a drying aid on a couple of rinseless washed vehicles one coated with 303 touchless and the other Hydrocharge and it worked great in both cases. I noticed it took a few hours for both to reach max shine so there seems to be a cure time involved. It played well with each product.
Another excellent video... I've only recently discovered your channel (which I have obviously subscribed to) and the detail you go into is phenomenal. Really excellent work.
If you could answer a question... After using a sealant wax, would using a spray detailer (say a week or 2 later for example) start to breakdown the the wax? I'm just still a little confused between applying detailer vs sealants/ceramic waxes.
Thanks 👍🏼
Great video. Interesting result, especially given the discounts seen recently for the TW Hybrid Sealant (I ordered from ECP for £3.57 a bottle yesterday). I would like to have seen Bouncers Done and Dusted Si Edition in the test or a future spray on sealant group test, as this is my go to product. A few layers and it performs very well, so easy to apply and very slick. Not expensive especially in 5L quantity.
DandD SI wont compete with these products on durability. but its just a different sort of thing really more like reall nice SI detail spray you could use every wash. The products in these test are very very durable.
@@ForensicDetailing fair enough, thanks for replying. I actually use Bead Juice, then DDsi as a sort of maintenance top up and to add slickness.
Seal & Shine is £5.49 on Euro Car Parts today, Nice video John.
Turtlewax Sealant Wax £3.62 for me on Euro Car Parts.
£3.62 using code CRX25ZLG
NOE King cheers mate. Just ordered another 8 👍
The code given is not working for me unfortunately..says the product is not included in the promotion.
marek bernard it was working earlier but looks like eurocarparts noticed so many orders with that code and removed it
great video jon, keeep the hotstreak up
Very thorough. Nice job!
Great - will try Seal n Shine
Great video... interesting results in that despite the carefully compiled numbers that would suggest certain conclusions, Moonlight is still your preference. High intangible factor?
yer have a read of what I said to the other chap above. the points help me pick winners but theres a difference between these tests and sort of real life. moonlight is unique comapred to these products.
Stev, moonlight is just a product you have to experience.
@@tacsystemusa1702 Believe me, considering it, have visited your web site a few times.
Great video again. Only concern are you becoming an "influencer" for Megs and TW or are you still impartial?
that Gray VW needs a window polish asap!!! look at the state of that front windscreen! Time to break out the pxe 80 Flex and Autoglym polish!
Cool video John, got to say I like the turtle wax sealant.
Great video as always John! I don't know if it is related with it but my question is: Can you use any of these products instead of Reload and Cure after applying a ceramic coating for preventing waters spots?
moonlight, fusso and Seal and Shine no.. TW ceramic spray and meguiars more so or yes. (Ive not tested but in theory they would be good).
I tend to like to use products specifically from the same manufacturer with a ceramic.. so if Im using CP I would prolly combo it with CP products for guernetee'd results
I use the Turtle Wax Ceramic Wet Wax as a drying aid and it doesn't half bead. not sure about durability as I try to wash the car every week.
Well done Dave I'm just hoping that they at turtle Wax HQ do not start to water down spray and shine because it is in my opinion stamping all over the other products and so it is absolutely genius I'm really hoping that there new paste wax in a tin yes if it's in a f****** tin it's wax with graphene he'd and whatever else it's got in it is going to be durable but spray and shine my god how easy how durable what a product going to give it till September and if I find that the new graphene turtle Wax isn't that good I'm going to buy a pot of soft 99 and back it up with spray and shine
Apex Detailing .. also had the TW Hybrid Ceramic Spray Wax as the most durable in his latest testing
yer not much in it though. Brian knows his onions.
I wonder how much UV affects durability and how it might be tested. I expect 1 day baking in the hot sun will do a lot of damage.
fusso coat has never been about gloss its all about its water repelancy
Put a coat of Soft99 King of Gloss or Kiwami on top, and you've got insane gloss.
@@SnakeDoctor5104 but lose the insane hydrophobicity of fusso.
@@BrianW1612 Not at all. KOG is about the same. I have both, so I can confirm this. If you even look at the ratings by Soft99, Fusso is a 5 in hydrophobic and KOG is a 4.5. Your eye's will not be able to tell a difference.
@@SnakeDoctor5104 I plan to do this in the Summer. Thanks for the tip :)
@@SnakeDoctor5104 KOG is a add on to the fusso coat and it would not last as long, but since it's a add on you can clean the car and then add a new layer of KOG. Im looking forward to see how it's going to look on my Mercedes when I got the time to polish it.
I use the new version of seal and shine apparently has UV protection and also may be more durable
Could you clarify this thing up for me, if you apply a coat of the new Turtle wax ceramic spray and wait the 24hrs for cure time but for eg it rains during that 24hrs and the car gets wet, does it stop the curing ?....just asking as I would like to apply 2 layers of it but you have to wait 24hrs between coats and I was thinking if it rains and stops the curing effect, does it make any sense to add another layer....Any advice?
it wont stop curing if it gets wet... But while a product is still curing its more vulnerable to being broken down.. so its less about getting it wet but more about washing it with detergents I think. you could apply one coating in the morning. and one in the afternoon and I recon you would be fine.. not tested though. Im not sure if I would wait 24 hours between coats..
Thanks Jon! I think I will try it and let you know how it turns out but if you ever think about running a video on the result of a few hour vs 24 hrs curing, let me know. Thanks again.