Warcraft III Review | Should You Play it in 2019?
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- Warcraft III is one of the most beloved RTS's of all time, and it's impact has been felt in the near-two decades since its release. But not in the way most fans would want. Has the recent announcement of Reforged finally given hope for a sequel? A better question is does it even need one - does the original hold up well enough to justify it?
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Yes! It won awards for a reason. Enough of shooter battle royales. Let's bring back the RTS genre!
RTS Wrc3 IS one OF The Best Games of all time!
just... don’t play games you don’t like.. they shouldn’t stop making any genre of games
I absolutely love FPS, but positively loathe Battle Royale. Really just CS, OW, & Halo.
I'd love it but can't see a rejuvenation coming before VR/holodecks coming around.
It's very funny going back to watch videos like this, when people still thought Reforged would turn out well.
Yes.... Funny...
😵😵😵😵
I mean one can find comedy just about anywhere, even in tragedy.
@@Zade_95 Even funnier, every bit of praise you gave to the whole network of Warcraft games has been nullified by the company and the shait way they handled it. You literally posted this review JUST BEFORE the Warcraft bubble burst.
The graphics won't turn you off and the game has aged like fine wine. Play it. NOW
The graphics of the game turned me off 10 years ago, it still does, but I do like the story behind Warcraft.
The graphics are the worst part about it, they looked bad even at release... (but 3D hyyyyype ! :/ )
Another fairly related issue is how battles quickly devolve into a giant mess of special effects - hopefully the remaster will improve that too ?
@@BlueTemplar15 Its graphics looked bad at release??? Are you from this world? Compare it to some other RTS at that time like Generals, it is many times better.
@@williamshakemilk2192 Are you kidding? CnC Generals looks *way better*, thanks to the fact that most units are blocky buildings or vehicles. Compare with Heroes of Might and Magic 3, released 4 years earlier : images.gog.com/877fc127578264724383a3270b7c56ac26740b22d7aecf9588195ab32d91cfa8.jpg
@@williamshakemilk2192 LOOK AT THIS DUUUUDE hhahaha Warcraft III looks better than Generals? I don't know what you are smoking, but you should stop using it.
What is the next thing you gonna tell me? That The Battle for Middle-Earth (which btw has exactly the same graphic engine of generals) looks bad?
Completed both the Reign of chaos and frozen throne campaigns last year. Still great:D The original Warcraft 3 has gotten 1920x1080p patch fixing the resolution for modern computers as well
Feels good man
Wait, wait, if you have the one with 1.31 patch, please download it on my Google Drive.
The voice acting, music and sounds are timeless. Truly amazing game.
Agreed!
I still remember being 7 years old and always excited every time I went to my uncle's place, where he would let me play his Warcraft 2 game. He introduced me to the whole genre and I was overjoyed 5 years later when Warcraft 3 launched and I got it that same x-mas. Being that young and falling in love with all those characters gives me ridiculous nostalgia and is still my all time favorite game.
I feel ya man, nostalgia is a powerful thing!
Should you play it in 2020?? YES DO NOT PLAY REFORGED FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!
I remember watching my friend's dad playing Warcraft 3 and being blown away by the graphics. Like, actual 3D models? Damn
While technically impressive, they look very bad.
@Derp Inshmurtz technically, yes - artistically, hell no !
Are you ? You're the one that's "bruh"-ing people...
@@BlueTemplar15 But this game was super fun
@@drakegamer5676 No question about that !
Going to replay it when the remastered version is here.
As am I! Looking forward to it
Well, it is finally here...
And I am regretting that I did not play it BEFORE Reforged.
I actually never finished the campaigns in the original WC3, and now Blizzard forces everyone to play through the buggy and problem-ridden Reforged - I have the Classic keys, but fuck me I guess.
Guess I have to pirate the game off some torrent site, it is unbelievably scummy that Blizz won't let owners of the original play anything else but Reforged now, when in some senses the old version beats the new hands down.
Oh, and I did preorder reforged. Regretting it already.
shouldn't have waited, heh
Oof
@Ryan Hoang I'm going to assume you no longer recommend this buggy, dogshit game known as Warcraft 3 Reforged? Stick to the originals. You cannot go wrong
I remember going into a cybercafe and saw WC3 icon for the first time. I clicked it and then the opening cinematic played.
"We never paid any heed to the ancient prophecies.."
That first line gave goosebumps. I feel in love with the game at that very moment lol.
I miss the era of WC3 so much. Blizz will never have the balls to make a true sequel.
I'm hesitant to agree with you, but you may just be right
So sadly true.
I guess they were testing the waters of the RPG genre with Reforged.
And since it is not doing that swimmingly, they will determine RPG genre is dead - instead of the actual case, which is were they to do it properly people would play the fuck out of it.
Do a piss poor job on reforged:
Conclusion: RTS IS DEAD. No WC4 guys.
(Actual case: No, you just did a piss poor job)
@@laurilehtiaho9618 I agree that RTS is dead, which is sad… especially since one of my favorite video game franchises is command and conquer- and EA just abandoned it cause it doesn’t make them enough money
SO HOW'S EVERYONE ENJOYING REFORGED
😬😬
Video nearly done 😈
@@Zade_95 the bell has been dinged
I still feel the Warcraft 3 Humans campaign is the best singleplayer RTS campaign I've ever played.I feel it does so well with the story, the level design, and the pacing of unit unlocks and difficulty.
It's one of the best in the game for sure. Always loved the story
A classic that changed gaming forever, a personal favourite of mine. Thanks for the review, Zade!
My pleasure - thank you for watching!
I still own the game and expansion disc back my father bought it at release and I play it to this day, the campaigns along with melee games and especially all the custom maps that are so creative and sparked Mobas to exist make warcraft 3 an amazing experience, never one to get dull.
That's awesome man :)
warcraft 3 was actully the first game i ever played
Same man. I remember playing it everyday when I was little
I remember finding it at a flea market when I was 7
Strangely, I've never been sold on RTS that used single model systems ( I grew up on Battle for Middle Earth, Total War, Dawn of War 2) for their armies. It just never had the scale that such a game should evoke to me.
Fair enough! Luckily there's enough of both games so we can all play our favorites!
@@Zade_95 Well said sir. But i am on the side of RTS games since thous need more skill, time and thouth to get hang of.
@@AverageEstonian if you haven't seen pro gameplay of WC3 you should check out Grubby on CZcams. There are EXTREMELY skilled tactics in this game
I feel like RTS games like Warcraft 3 allow for better control over your units and thus the battle. But I can see how some separation of control is part of the appeal of some of the games you listed.
Large Warcraft 3 battles also look very grand to me as you have each of the units fighting in melee or groups of ranged units in a pretty great spectacle. (Unfortunately this feels a bit lost to me in Starcraft 2)
Warcraft RTS is more 'squad combat' than 'strategic war'
"Big evil frozen bad guy" is my new favourite description of the Lich King.
You should also do a video on the Warlords Battlecry series, especially Battlecry 3 and standalone mod The Protectors. They're also a hero-based RTS and were doing the hero mechanics earlier than Warcraft 3.
I just clicked on this video, haven't watched it, but the simple answer is:
YES.
as someone playing since release , the answer is Yes.
Yes these are my childhood games lol but the biggest gripe I had with these games is population limits, the older C&C games are the first game that I’ve encountered and played in a total war fashion.
That fair - definitely on a different scale!
If Reforged has a similar unit control to Starcraft 2's, maybe it can support a higher number of troops in a single battle. As far as I remembered, having 3 12 stacks was already pushing the amount of control you have over your units. And in a single battle between armies things get chaotic and you can't understand everything that's happening easily.
They didn't have activated abilities for like half of the units, did they ?
The most favorite race I love is the Naga, and I can't wait to see them remastered
Naga could easily have it's own faction in a new game (warcraft 4). Burning Legion and Undead should also be separate factions in a new game.
For something that was only used in the campaign levels, they sure put a lot of work in what is essentially a new race.
@@bobbyferg9173 And that attention to detail was a good thing. They have tons to work with if they want to make a warcraft 4 and make it big. Warcraft 3 had plenty of elements that could be expanded upon.
Naga faction when blizzard
I got Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne on our laptop. Still playing it today.
For some reason it seems to me the orc vs human cinematic has less "power" to it in reformed than in the original. The fight doesn't feel as brutal and the orc scream doesn't sound as beastly as before. Just my impressions atleast,the cimematics where quite important in creating the atmosphere of the game so I have to be critical there. As far as the original game goes, there's a mission in the night elf campaign where you sneak past demon patrols while also avoiding getting involved in battles between Orcs, Humans and Undead. And at the the end you fight some Satyrs and corrupted Ents. It seemed crazy at the time and was one of my favourite moments.
Intersting - I actually feel the opposite! Feels more visceral in the reforged one, especially with the Infernal. They've said that the other cinematics are more remasters based on the originals more than full recreations, so interested to see what they look like in comparison. May hold more of the original feel you're looking for!
@@Zade_95 Hi the other cinematics will just be upscaled and will be a better resulotion. Only the opening cinematic was remastered, all the other ones will just look and sound way way better, won't be as god damn blurry anymore which is fucking huge imo. ALL cinemaics already look great, but the opening one was by far imo the one that looked the worst, I'm glad that got the remaster. What I am curious about is the illidian vs Arthas battle, is that going to be a proper cinematic or just them two hitting each other in third person and then one collapses lol?
We still play it Wrc3 Is amazing RTs game ! Good Games never get old!!!
Awesome!
The preview didn't age well. :D
I know right YIKES
You can still download the od wc3 from their classic games section on their site it will just need to confirm either your cd key or your account where you own reforged!
Great to know, thanks!
And Blizzard just killed it.
No I'm ducking serious WC3 and all files have been removed from Battlenet, and the "remaster" is in such a poor state that this may have herald the end of the Warcraft RTS franchise.
Yep, pretty atrocious. Video nearly done!
Thanks, I am looking forward to it.
Also there are people on Reddit who are posting ways to get the original WC3 game without the Battle.net requirement. So we got some preservation going on in the midst of this corporate retcon.
already have the reforged purchased and waiting
Im still playing it and and im hyped for reforged.
so... how'd that hype work out?
Its a good game still, sadly what they wont tell you especially from the custom community is those updates that blizzard has put in have not been so quality of life, the game crashes a lot, there have been entire custom maps that haven't been able to function even dota 1 itself and battlenet at a stage was so dead people were convinced blizzard were making the updates to force people to buy reforged essentially.
But the base game is still fine, I just feel that after owning it for many years I am getting less for my money when a custom map thats no longer being developed gets thanosed by a Blizzard update. Pray that reforged does help the game more than anything else.
Im just slightly confused with your comment here- Dota2 has nothing to do with Blizzard?
@@rubz1390 Sorry thank you for pointing that out I meant dota 1 or just regular defense of the ancients.
That is unfortunate, can't speak to much of it as I haven't been involved in the community over a long time, but I agree I hope the Remaster stands up!
Warcraft III will live for many years and still aged well when I become a grandpa lol.
They put a lot of effort on this game, thinking that younger generations will play this game in modern times, it's that good.
This video is super high quality great work
Thank you! :)
I mean I want to get it but, Blizzard has definitely changed for the worse when it turned to the Activision side of things...
Yeah I feel you. Definitely a fair reason to be turned off giving them more $$$
Damn, were you on point.
I still don't think this game needs a remaster, what's worse all the new patches are ruining the custom maps and crashes all over the place.
Yeah I'm not sure it does other - guess we'll see soon!
Was wondering what your next project was, not disappointed 😄
;)
Always got you covered!
Your marvellous Kiwi bastard I love your reviews! Keep em' coming!
Appreciate it Paddy - I will!
Preordering reforged grants immediate access to the base game and TFT. Once you download the launcher you'll be able to "validate" the game one of two ways, by attaching it to your battle.net account (so it can verify you own reforge), or by inputting the proper CD-keys.
Thanks for the tip!
Might need to update this video now 😵
Video on reforged out soon, but yes. Might need to 'acquire it' outside of battlenet...
Probably someone already told you, but I can't find it in the comments.
After you preorder Reforged you can go to your games in the BattleNet WEBSITE (not app), and download installer for Warcraft3. After installation it will show you a window with 2 options:
- Enter CD key for those who bought game before Reforged announce
- Login with B.Net account for those who bought it after
Either way you will get to play original ROC/TFT.
Pre-ordering Reforged does give you access to classic, but you have to download the client from your account. And at 30 bucks it's still a good deal.
Thanks for the tip!
Man, I had just picked the game back up last week!
Enjoy!
Damn man that major spoiler was not cool at 3:28 for those of us who haven't played the campaign. I was looking forward to reforged.
I normally avoid spoilers for recent games, but i mean this did come out 17 years ago :P
The game itself is good, but the CUSTOM MAPS just took it to another level.
100%!
Yeah, already Starcraft was amazing with its Turret defence games, but WC3 *really* turned it up to 11 !
“Isn’t much that hasn’t been said...” then makes a 17 minute video to say a bunch of stuff...
Hey, I didn't say I wouldn't repeat some of it!
Sorry but i am gonna skip this vid. Everyone will play it, just like Classic WoW.. end of story.
Outside of this CZcams/Web and whatsoever area.. there is the real mass that is like: "Ah, i heard they're gonna re-release Warcraft 3, nice.. can't wait to spend all my money on that golden classic title"
I'm currently playing Warcraft 3 (not refroged version) again! The storyline is simply amazing! It's the type of game that lasts that test of time :)
@13:19 OOF!
🙃
This was hard to listen to considering I watched your Reforged review first.
Bruh......
Do brood war or SC2 next
Planned, not sure when though. Lots of games, so little time! Soon TM
Oh cool. Looking forward to it
Really liked the game, still play it sometimes
Anyone else use one Warcraft code to install the game on several computers? It allowed me to play LAN matches with one copy and that was all I needed.
ez
Should you play in 2019, you mean you haven't been playing it every day of your life? Absolutely barbaric.
I know right. Ridiculous
Been playing it for 5 years still love it
Nasty playing Warcraft III with pure uncultured rasterization.
Oh man. I miss when the servers were insanely full. When you create a new game: Footman Wars Upgraded. And 11 others join within a second and you can start the game directly. Those were the times
when the nostalgia hits just right
FYI the original discs are good for F-all now, if you want to play multiplayer that is... I bought reforged for myself just to get a copy of WC3 and I used the original physical copies to install on my brothers PC, updated both games on battle.net, went to fire it up over LAN and they're not compatible, didn't realise they were two different patch versions. You cant update the original disc any further.
Good to know, thanks!
Only game I may have played more than Zero-K.
I basically never played non custom games though
That's funny, I was mostly the opposite! Loved Skirmish, only really like a few types of custom games (RPG, mostly)
I remember Hero Wars was my fav
Your Dark Souls joke got me
hands down one of the greatest games of all time
This was my first game . And it is a part of my soul
Only things I hate about this game are the pathing and 12 unit selection limit.
I think the 12 unit selection was a conscious decision, but it does get old sometimes :P
if u like more units go play starcraft then... remember warcraft 3 is micro based even if they gave us more units to control it will be better to be on the custom games like azeroth wars imo than melee ladder the pathing sometimes is bullshiet so i agree.
I play it sincecrelease lol, so the answer is hell yes!
HELL YEAH! I hope Warcraft 4 if it ever happens retcons wow.
If it ever happens.... I hope so!
It would be great if you could play and review Warlords Battlecry 3. It has some really interesting game mechanics and even with it's flaws my brother and I come back to it from time to time to test new hero classes and factions we didn't master to play.
As far as I remember that game has 16 (!) races!
Random tip: try Spellforce series :-)
I got it from my pre-purchase. all of their retro games are listed under a weird page on their website. if you google classic wc3 download it will be the first one to pop up
EZ, ty!
@@Zade_95 Haha I was in the same boat as you. You're welcome buddy
Answer yes you should play it also there's some great mods out there which I strongly recommend
I grew up with it, of course i should
I loved it so much when I was about six years old (~2002), and I still do! 😄 🤗
#CantWait4ReForged
You and me both!
And if you play all campaigns and watch closing video, you get the bonus campaigns. One of which I found better than the other main campaigns. Did I mention the editor that lets you change your NPCs and playable characters (and structures). Don't do this. I never would.
Oh, of course not. Me neither. Nope
My all time favorite game
I don't give a fart about World of Warcraft, but I adore the RTS games it was based on.
The competition with the Command and Conquer games urged both teams to get more creative and go for more variation and distinction between the factions.
Oh yeah.Unit personality. The heroes get the fame, but your regular units get to spit out gems like "This… is… my boomstick!" "Judge me by my size, do you?"
And a personal favorite: "Mortar Kombat!!!"
i hope the remaster w3 reforged has a ranking system for multiplayer
Me too!
To my is very clear why we don't get WC4, because WoW, cause they main story goes on on WoW and until they don't kill WoW the options they have are, making side stories leaving the main ones to be part of WoW or talk about a different one that may take place many years from the current lore (which I don't see happening) Besides the original idea for W3 was what we know now as WoW so in many ways... that also adds on it. Don't get me wrong I love RTS, W3 was a fine tune in gaming history but for W4 I understand why is a complex topic.
I agree, it'd be hard to make a W4 while WoW is sticking around
Warcraft 3 introduced the hero mechanics in order to be unique among RTS games. These days, RTS are few and far between whereas RPG elements are omnipresent which makes the old school, non-hero gameplay of Starcraft 2 unique. En taro Tassadar!
Weird how it works huh!
Controversial opinion: one of the things I loved about the original WC3 was that it had such a unique and vibrant art style. Maybe the graphics weren't the greatest, but the "look" of the world was one of the things that pulled me in, and still enjoy looking at. Plus, I'm lucky enough to have the original WC3 and Frozen Throne on my computer, STILL untouched by the Blizzard "update". The game itself has aged very well, certainly a lot better than other RTS's like the original Age of Empires (not AoE2, mind you! I still love playing that one.)
I agree! Love the art of OG WC3
If warcraft 3 reforged is a success i dont see why they dont make expansions for it like they do for wow. Although admittedly the direct sequel to warcraft 3 is vanilla so we could have either 8 fleshed out factions (too many imo) or just 2 protagonist factions (Alliance & Horde) with 2 antagonist factions - Dark Iron Dwarves and Black Rock Orcs for example. If Total War Warhammer series is anything to go by blizz could copy their campaign dlcs idea and create specific story campaigns like the invasion of gilneas and make specific factions for it like a forsaken and Gilnean faction.
Yeah I'd love that - here's hoping!
WC3 is worth it purely because of its plot, even if you hate RTS games.
I jumped in blind after being fascinated by wow's background lore, and absolutely loved every minute of WC3!
True that!
I'm back on it to play Frozen Throne cause I never finished it and campaign mods and the original DOTA which is still the best moba cause you are invested in the characters, not like LOL or other moba
I may and may not buy it, depending in how the multiplayer browser works. Because one of the biggest pains when trying to play with friends was trying to find a server and both of you trying to find and join that said server. I dont not HOW many hours we wasted with that rutine.
So a borwser and friendlist and that I can simply join a server via the friendlist would be nice.
Yeah I'd love that. Fingers crossed we get a nice server browser and direct join from friends etc
This game launched millions of gamers, and billions of $ in gaming, most of US started with it, DOTA, LOL, + other games started or copied ideas from Warcraft 3 customs maps, So you can say it may be the father/god of games :) Lets hope will have the controls and graphics for 2019+ so it can last at least 17 more :)
Whats the name of the map when you are killing the granite golem ?
Great review! This was my favorite game (not Reforged!) !
Thank you! Appreciate it :)
Hi. For anyone who’s played something like Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild, and WOW, how similar are the 2 games? If played 100 hours on BOTW and I’ve loved it. Will I love WOW/Warcraft 3 as well?
whats a good custom campaign that explains the story of WCI and II without getting into the really annoying controls?
Also anything for WC4 that doesn't go into the whole annoying mini quests.
Good question - I'm not sure myself, but would love to hear from someone who does!
W3 Battlechest was the best $50 I ever spent. I love this game and I LOVE that editor. I too want W4 but there were some good points here that deep down I think most people know are true. WoW is doing too well that AB wouldn't dare risk dividing up that cash cow, so maybe AB need a new inspired fantasy franchise they can palm the RTS thirst off to.
Yes.
TLDR: Yes
Finally a Warcraft III review/retrospective which acknowledges existance of custom maps other than that fucking DotA.
LUL
As a kid I hardly ever played DOTA - it was RPG for me!
@@Zade_95 For me it was mostly roleplay, TD's, hero survivals and more interesting maps like Toy Soldiers, Cruiser Command. Still, SotDRP, XRP and RoTRP were my childhood. Oh and Battleships/Battletanks
I preordered Reforged and i can play normal Warcraft 3
LUL
How do you play it in 4k mode ?
I am a huge rts fan, C&C RA 1 got me Into pc gaming but to be honest with you I never reay liked wc3, just played the campaign and thats it. Ofc we played a bunch of Enfos and TDs
Fair enough! Not everything's for everyone, I get that
Still one of my favourite games of all time
I never actually played this. Reforged may be my ticket
Dang, you're be in for a blast!
Same here. Great review Zade, certainly kindled my interest ☺
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is that even a question? of course many people should play this game and his masterpiece story and the all great custom maps made by community and the melee games ladder .
I still own both copies of the game I will go back for the remastered version and show my gf what amazing story there is in the masterpiece.
better show her the old one
There are only 2 types of people in this world:
- Those who haven't played WC3.
- Those that did.
When I was in the former camp, I avoided WC3 like the plague. Everyone hounded me to play it.
Now I'm in the latter camp, all my NEW friends avoid me like the plague lol.
The answer is:
Duh yes of course
ez
Who wants some game like Warcraft 3?
Try Spellforce 3:
+ Great story
+ RTS/RPG hybrid
+ Interesting world
but
- It has a few annoying bugs. Nothing game breaking tho.
It has it's own Frozen Throne-like expansion - Harvest of Souls.
Yes yes yes,,,i hope dota is still there
Warcraft 1 2 3 were soo great they weren't a part of my childhood they were my childhood