Real USAF DOGFIGHT training in the NEW T-6+
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- čas přidán 18. 07. 2021
- My flight in the new T-6+ with full audio and 360 video. This trainer is incredibly capable.
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PTN has special permission to test the outer limits of training. Typically BFM (dogfighting) isn't flown in the T-6, however, it translates suprisingly well to fighter aircraft.
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The guys in the front: hck uhhhh hck uhhhh hck uhhhh
Hasard: Wow what a nice view
He's really not trying that hard is he lol
He is experiencing g-forces so he has to breathe like that but yep i agree with you it is a nice view
@land5860 land5860 u angry or something im sluggish but im built to be a sniper from far ahead
@@jellylightningii5959 yer a good plane. Great support. But you know the cool youngling in the family is gonna be the F-22 for now.
@@FirestormX9 you mean my dad i know he is cool
this might be the clearest footage of a prop dogfight i've ever seen
But still get low res UFO videos haha.
My god this looks like fun.. these trainers sure can turn! Makes you think about late WWII combat and the kind of G's those guys must have been dealing with while fighting for their lives.. truly incredible
5:51 listen to the high-g breathing. THAT must be straining as hell.
Fun anx then say that again when being tailed by a bandit
@@davecrupel2817 no shit
And no G-suit.
I got a workout just watching this lol. I have the utmost respect for the men and women ruling the skies.
Did my boy literally just say "PEW,PEW,PEW,PEW" to mimic the gun fire? Respect.
I think that’s them breathing because of the G’s😂. I would love if that said pew pew though
OMG, Dude I've been telling everyone that you are the best, no bullshit fighter pilot on youtube, Thank you for being unafraid to tell and show us the real stuff.
"No BS pilot"...well, he is in the Air Force. Duh.
@@martinc.720yes exactly. We are lucky he is is willing to put this stuff out there in the public for us. Some other CZcams pilots “in the Air Force (or navy)” are much more reserved or unwilling seemingly afraid to talk in detail about the actual fighting training or tactics. Are they Allowed?? There is a huge world of simulation nerds and fans of BFM training that just love this kind of stuff.
@@tomc6086 He must be getting approval from Public Affairs for this stuff. I can't blame other youtubers for not wanting to go through the work to do that.
I would assume flying the T6 after flying the f35 must feel like driving a civic vs after driving a corvette.
I think you'd be surprised at how agile the T-6's are. They have quite good roll rate and are supposedly pretty responsive.
I think it might be more akin to a Civic Type-R ;)
@@shirothehero0609 yeah but it's fly by stick rather than by wire
@@nobstompah4850 automatic corvette and manuel civic
@@wyattbaldwin4206 Manuel Civic? I didn't know Manuel was driving!
@@shirothehero0609 One of the highest rates of G onset in the inventory. It may not be the fastest, but it is incredibly agile.
Excellent insight into your unique world once again Hasard. Fantastic to see the training from the Pilots perspective.
This camera setup is awesome. I'm able to track the fights and see the progression much better. Good stuff.
This looks like FUN! I could just imagine how nerve-wracking this would be in a life or death situation. Great job, and great video! The video quality is amazing!
Adoro este canal y adoro la aviación militar. Sin duda un gran vídeo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Saludos desde España 🇪🇸
Incredible footage. Thank you for giving insight into the true practices of the USAF.
Awesome camera setup, it felt smooth from my couch :) thanks for the glimpse into a completely different world
Amazing shot,
...and by the way, I love the sound of the breathing!!!
Great footage. No doubt that the job of fighter pilot is a demanding one, having to use all physical and mental strength. Respect to you all who serve in the air forces.
Great audio and 360 footage!
Loved this video, more like this one pls.
Cool and educational :) Thanks Hasard
Workin'! Thanks for sharing this!
Ooo I love this camera setup.
Awesome video man.. the Inspiration I needed to go fly train tomorrow. Sadly I'm not pulling g's
So awesome!! What a great camera angle!
Major Lee, (is that your correct rank?) Thank you absolutely so very much for this video. Thank you and thank you Air Force. Damn that was fun. As a civilian pilot I've always wondered about sight pictures and energy management of a dogfight and the dynamic relationship they have with performance. What an incredible ride. That T-6 is a pretty cool aircraft.
Glad you enjoyed it--this is a good representation of what BFM (dogfighting) looks like
I learned good energy management in War Thunder so I can use it as a civilian pilot
@@HasardLee Thanks 4 uploading this video, Hasard. Do u have 2b very good or excellent in aerobatics 2do ACM or dogfighting? Is practicing aerobatics important in ACM training, as well as knowing some physics about airspeed, altitude, energy, & positioning?
@@gundamdunham7479 What makes a pilot good in these scenarios is their ability to accurately set up a maneuver, and crosscheck parameters (both inside the jet, as well as physical positioning in space) to make adjustments during execution.
The basic progression of training is designed to step from reading basic aircraft parameters and correcting, to learning how to do that with more variables in baby aero (usually one plane of motion), adding more variables with advanced aero (multiple planes of motion), then going through that whole progression again with another aircraft involved. So, yes, while being good at ACM usually means you're good that those other things, it's *because* you learned how to do those other things well that you can translate the skills to ACM/BFM.
I love how the TA occasionally goes off, definitely not trying to practice BFM over here.
@TheNeatWhale or an off switch 🤣👌
Brings back old T34-C memories but looks more comfty. The 360 gives the impression the IP is slightly elevated? Also, you guys aren't completely drenched so I'm assuming somebody finally figured out to add AC to turbo prop trainers! Thanks for posting. Great video!
This looks like hard work.
hasard!!! all i’m
working towards right now is to start off strong in AFROTC this fall and make it from street to seat. my biggest question for you rn is what do you think about the new Russian stealth fighter reveal?? If you could do a video about what you speculate the comparisons will be to our stealth technology (of course while somewhat classified just in general speech) that would be absolutely amazing. either way thanks for being another inspiration to fly and someone that takes the time to take it from a mythical job to something doable
You guys make this s*** look easy.
I know it is a mental and physical workout, with endurance of alertness.
You're plane seems so slow, and the enemy seems to be all over the place super fast
Great effort ! Keep it up . 👍
Excellent! Thanks 👍
That camera is wild asf!! Wow!
That was cool JFP! Finally got to see you at work in the office! #lukeavgeek #fastjetbiz
camera work is low key incredible
When someone hits the joint and tries to talk at the same time
Greetings from TRAWING 4 at NAS Corpus Christi. 94 T-6Bs on station here.
I’m from corpus !!
Nice vlog, How can you search t6'o clock direction. Isn't that hard on the back seat?
Incredible!
Beautiful video, Hallo from the perimeter at RAF Lossiemouth moray Scotland, from Sylvia Stirnimann
This is great. Go USAF 👍
Its really awesome
I was digging the camera work and use. Really wish this technology was around twenty-five years ago. Or maybe not🤔
thanks for this
Had a ride in the backseat of a T6 (radial engine tail dragger) years ago. My time in a T28 did not help as I did a lousy job. No wonder you need time in the old T6 to qualify for instruction in a P51.
Jeez.... I am getting dizzy watching this.... Thanks for sharing :-)
T-6+ looks so fun to fly.
Hasard, how hard is it as a pilot to continuously turn to the right with the wing down when the target was circling you guys half way through ? This video is amazing!
The G force got to about 6G's--on a scale I'd weight about 1,200 pounds. You can feel it pushing you into your seat
@@nevergonna....7066 Yes, good physical shape is essential in withstanding G forces. Other factors like good sleep and hydration also play a large part.
Probably feels like synthetic death, I'd guess being healthy and fit is instrumental in resisting the weight of sweet release.
@@patrickmcbrien9303 Sleep, health and hydration? ..Something few WWII fighter pilots had. ....i.e. Papa Boyington and his Black Sheep.
@@HasardLee 6 Gs.
I weigh 250 pounds.
Under that turning, my fat ass would weigh about 1500 pounds.
*Jesus H Christ.*
Hasard- Would you say BFM varies from the sim to IRL? In terms of G’s? I see g-tolerance playing a big factor into the victor of the rate fight whereas in the sim pilots can pull much harder without effect.
Absolutely, it's much tougher in the air
good job
Hi Hasard.
What kind of video equipment do you use to make these 360 images?
Awesome
how does the camera tracking work? Is it all in the editor?
Great video Hasard👍 but I can barely understand anything lol
Getting some Battlefield 3/Battlefield 4 flashbacks....
Jokes aside - epic video, hats off to all who serve.
"Ok knock it off gentlemen, Viper has the lead..."
The sport of kings.
What is the tube running along the canopy? Also weird that is has the triangle patterns over your head.
the tube is filled with a bunch of small explosives to blow up the canopy in the event of ejection.
What is your cam and audio setup? I go to UPT early next year.
What are those radio messages?! Always love that communication of the Air Force. Reminds me of that sequence in Transformers 1 when they called in an air strike in the desert. I know its a lame reference but plebs like me gotta be happy with that :|
Most AFIs and AFMANs are available to the public. With a little digging you can find the basic comm standards for formation out there, with explanations. Most squadrons/groups will have some individual adjustments or additions based on the platform, but in short, they're all designed to quickly coordinate things between plane and ground, plane and plane, formation and formation, etc.
@@TheAlmostHarmless dude thank you for that information! I had no idea these comms would be available to public. A basic understanding of these comms could be self trained for sure.
@@FirestormX9 They absolutely could. The hard part is spitting out the right words when your plan is falling apart!
@@TheAlmostHarmless it'd be cool to just know some basics. Ironically could be used for humour too lol
Sweet, you guys based in NW Florida?
Hey Justin,
Quick question. Have you ever cleared your throat and had to hear it in the HUD tape later on? 🤣😮
Can you do a commentary over this? Explaining what exactly you are doing in each part. Lol kinda confused since im new
Wish there was a camera plane following, just looks like floating and rotating
New war thunder engine lookin great!
Not warthunder not enough ramming into enemy aircraft lol
That breathing yo, Darth Vader is my copilot
Correct me if I'm wrong. Is that not a Navy t6? I thought the Navy paint scheme is red and white and the Air Force has the blue and white. I know you guys do alot of joint training at Pensacola and I see alot of T6's training out of HSV international. I was just wondering? Love the lines of a T6. I know very little about flying but I'll bet its a blast to fly a T6.
Love watching them. More videos like this Hasard 😁👍
It is, navy is lending then to AF until the AF gets there own upgraded T6s
I want to see the TacView of this fight. ;)
Yes
what are the qualifications/requirements that need to be a fighter pilot? plz reply
A lot
Question: Which is more lethal F35 or F22?
Both are lethal but the F-22 is definitely better.
Are these versions of the T-6 headed to Vance AFB anytime soon ??
No, they're going back to the Navy soon. AF is looking to upgrade the T-6A's to something better than this in a few years
@@HasardLee navy always has the cool toys lol
Hasard can you react to Business insiders new video on the af academy
Damn they made him an IP
Amazing that we still get low res UFO video but perfectly clear CZcams video. 🤔
Is that debt cord on the canopy?
T6 appears to have a propeller?
Was anyone else half expecting to see actual shots off??
I think I play too much DCS...
What are those wires on the top of the canopy? I see other airplanes have these, like the harrier and others... is it just to support the glass or are there wires in there ?
They're a small line of shaped charges to fracture the canopy during the ejection sequence
@@TheAlmostHarmless that’s dope asf
@@EB-Ghost6 yes, it is.
When I flew through prop wash/jet wash in pilot training, instructors always called it asymmetric G; and I'm pretty sure 6.0 is an asymmetric over G in the T-6. The result was declaring an emergency and RTB. Has that changed?
Any Gs through the prop wash is considered asymmetric, but in this video, the aircraft went through at a lower G. Instructors and students are taught to ease off prior to going through so as to not asymmetrically over-G. The T-6B+ will report an over G condition and log it both in the cockpit and maintenance data recorder.
@@ryanriley9176 The T-38C also detected and latched the over-G. If that IP had my UPT experience, he would have hooked that ride. The only way to avoid a hooked ride in that situation was either 1) reset the G meter prior to going through the flight path so that the max G was under the asymmetric load or 2) if you had a nice IP you could maybe call out the G load while in the turbulence and they might let you slide...if you were lucky that day.
@@matthewglaser1812 Yeah, it hasn't so much relaxed, as much as now it's become a defacto standard to just call the G's if you cross through wake turbies, and if you're under 5.7 you're good. The actual roll rate required to asymmetrically over-G the T-6 is absurdly unrealistic even for BFM, and most instructors understand that. At least at Vance. Laughlin's a shitshow and you never know what debauchery will come out of that place.
@@TheAlmostHarmless Sounds like Laughlin hasn't changed. :-)
Is there study material for this aircraft
6:36 layman here .
instead of turning why not make a small " A " type climb & dive down from top of A .
Doing so may give shooting chance for both left n right from top while the target is still doing its circle .
May be i may be wrong though😅 😅😅
That's called a high yoyo, and what you're suggesting could be valid, but it depends on the aircraft you're flying.
The reason you would do that is because you know that between you and the bad guy, your turn radius is better at a lower speed, and you want to radius fight him (nose to nose fighting) E.g. you would pitch in the vertical plane, slow down, and then fly an airspeed to drag your nose inside the circle faster than he can, fighting downward, eventually turning into a scissors and an AoA fight (one circle). The disadvantage is if you fly it incorrectly, he will start traversing around the circle faster than you will, and eventually end up on your tail by simply flying in a circle (two circle / rate fight).
In this case though, both aircraft are exactly the same, so if the lead aircraft aircraft is flying "perfectly", and you try flying yours in a way that is disadvantageous based on the airframe design, you will probably lose if the bad guy doesn't make a mistake.
Because this is practice, the lead aircraft usually uses a lower power setting, so that the trailing aircraft has an advantage in the rate fight (chasing the tail, two circle fight). It's a training exercise to learn visual cues as well as habit patterns.
cool, but you could improve the audio quality by flattening the peaks.
Hell ya
This is a good ACM video, u could see what the student pilot is doing, as well as the aspect angle & position of where the other plane, & what he has 2do 2 achieve a firing solution or how 2 put the gunsight pipper on the other plane. 👍
great movie i learned two things: first that pilots can drink during flight,and second that i would have accomplished my dream to become pilot....🙏🙏
Is that hazard in the front?
UPLOAD DAY!!
There's a reason why we bought a lot of these low tech planes... I believe that we just saw why!!! Awesome video, thank you!
FYI, the T-6 is definitely not a "low tech" plane.
@@bertg.6056 Unfortunately your brain does not comprehend with my statement! I know it is a lot more affordable than even using F-16s for training
@@time4anewsystem452 It's not a "low tech" aircraft. Live with that fact.
@@bertg.6056 Oh so it has stealth capabilities? Can it carry cruise missiles or tactical nukes. There's a reason why these are hundreds of thousands each
@@bertg.6056 Didn't you compare this to a Honda Civic lmbo
Funny how Hasard is just kicking it in the back seat.
With all the technology we have today is it still necessary to fire a missile at 6 o'clock from the enemy? If the range of a missile is around 100K, why should it be in the rear?
no, look up off boresight or look into Aim-9X it can be fired from the aircraft and turn very sharp to get to its target.
1:21 i'm disappointed he didn't spill it :D
How is that camera being controlled?
Mind controls
Dont think my asthma ass can handle this 😂😂😂
what is that zig zag cable looking thing on the canopy?
It's an explosive that will blow the canopy if they have to eject.
Its nesa heating built into the glass for de-icing. if it werent there, the glass would be so cold from the altitude it would break with vibration. Also prevents the glass from breaking when rapidly descending
@@mtnairpilot I’m not sure if thats true, because that’s just highly dangerous considering glass and the blast from the explosion will kill the pilots(s)
@@mtnairpilot nope heating coil for anti ice
Mtnairpilot is correct - Aircraft with Ejection Seats have an MDC (Miniature Detonation Chord) of explosive zig-zagged into the canopy. The Ejection ‘sequence’ is a timed series of events initiated when the ejection handle is pulled, foremost of which is detonation of the MDC: This weakens the canopy to ensure that the seat (and pilot) penetrate and escape when the seat’s rocket propellant ignites and launches it. Note in the video that the highest part of the seat is behind the pilot’s head where you see two ‘spikes’ with a cross-bar. The arrangement of spikes and and MDC vary between different aircraft but the principle is always the same.These are the first thing to hit the MDC weakened canopy and ensure that it shatters so as not to impede the ejection. Remember what happened to Goose?
How many Gs do pilots typically pull in a prop like this?
The T-6 can to -3.5 to 7.0, although 4-5 is "normal".
It's hilarious how he's just quiet and the trainee is gasping for air
Pulling G's. Try it sometime.
What do you mean exactly when you call.....traffic traffic.....?
That's not them, that's the plane telling them it detects another aircraft (in this case their target) nearby.
@@suntzu5562 Funny...sounds like a different dude every time? And don't you have a war to prepare for?? Or was that an art lesson....?
Jesus I knew about the breathing techniques and all that stuff to make sure they don’t pass out I just had no idea how often and long they needed to do it when flying. That dude in the front was doing that forced breathing thing a whole bunch during this. Couldn’t hear Hasard in the back though. He seemed to just be enjoying the ride.
How is that camera being manipulated?
Because this is shot on a 360 camera, you can manipulate the origin point in the editing process to "steer" where you want the FOV to be.
Why am feeling like its hard to breathe when im watching these kind of videos... hahahha...
Bruv that breathing sounds like a struggle but there trained well