Space Engineers - Magnetic Grinding Torpedos, Sabotage Droids
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- After reviewing the claws design and updating it to be able to detect ships with sensors and then target them I decided to attach a grinder to see what sort of damage could be done.
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Space Engineer is like a mixture between Minecraft and Kerbal Space Program. The game is in pre-alpha and will be released on steam at some point in the future.
The main purpose of the game seems to be building a space fleet and fight/ally with the other factions. You build your ships piece by piece and the only know limit for the size of your ship is what you computer can handle.
Yeah it looks cool, but i think something that cuts armor with the grinder and then a timer detonates a warhead inside would be more useful.
if only buttons could be pressed by them hitting a block, then you'd only need a button on the front instead of a grinder to just blow on impact
Kevin Code
You can use a sensor to detect the ship & then detonate the mine.
Just imagine how destructive i will be on worlds with sped up grinding speed to like 5x
Slye Fox Even better: Let the sensor detect a player. As soon as he gets close... Boom.
Even though small warheads don't do much damage to large blocks...
***** yeah a spinning torpedo with a grinder on the front ill just grab that back with my ship lol
I tried something similar, but they were only designed to cut so far into the ship before detonating a large yield inside of it.
Managed to completely gut a cruiser-sized vessel with only two of them.
that's cool!
you mean GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) "bunker buster" style bomb (penetrate in target then explode)? well thats pretty op.
So you just created a bomb that is like a bunker buster but more powerful I am guessing or more chotic
Might be a good idea to put some interior turrets on those torpedos. That'll be a nasty surprise for any player trying to stop them.
Holy shit
Cool idea but wouldn't it be impossible to load them unless you do it manually?
Put them on the interior, so when the player cuts away the saws. They get greeted with gunfire.
What about adding a wahrhead and a sensor that detects players to detonate it?
If I could thumb up this comment 100 times i would.
Imagine all the dead people...
Ooooooh that's mean. I like it! But if these were large ships or modded small ones you could have a Gatling turret on the back of it shooting everything and everyone. Then have a warhead buried inside if they try to blow it up it makes a bigger boom then they bargained for.
What about a minefield of missiles similar to the ones arron deployed that detect enemy ships and blow them up with warheads?
Patrick Vaughan I would personally use a sensor at the front,sides and the top and bottom and have a lot of them set in one direction towards an enemy base so that most of them detect ships and make it head towards it with grinders or warheads in
IDEA: Add warheads inside the grinding drones, and use timer blocks to set them off. So maybe after they grinded inside a ship, they'll explode, causing even more havoc.
+Mateus Deathbringer Design it to blow if or when its tampered with, say when drill stops, caboom!
Also with that feature it could collect the stuff so it does not cause much lag, but when destroyed the block releases all the debris and cause huge lag with explosions, causing issues for any other player who survived from original blast. In that time the person whos drones these are would had time to go away, chance his ship to something like battle cruiser and come back finish them off when lag is gone.
I dont know much from this games mechanics, so just random thoughts trown into air! :D
+Mateus Deathbringer or have gatling guns on them so while they are inside they will fire at players and resources
You could also have a warhead, people inside and the drill, so in capital ship ware fare, you can deploy teams into the ship, and manually place bombs everywhere, so the person who is fighting you will either have to disengage you, or now worry about the ALLAH HU AKBAR guys inside.
Mateus Deathbringer so make them bunker bombs
to be honest it's a good idea but basically the same things created years ago
Just add anti personnel turrets and have a sensor set off a short timer so they can get through the armour before going boom boom
A cherry on top would be an anti-personal turret hooked up to the side.
Oh, that would just be brutal!
Now with the newest cloaking device, this would devastating.
Bastion Gerbil oh yeah
Muzzled an extra little fuck you to the other person! I love it!
what about a drop-pod version of this? it cuts into a ship until it gets into a open area in it and then opens a door to let people inside of it get out
that'd be a very effective way of raiding a enemy ship or space station, causing damage and releasing enemy shock troops upon them.
So kinda like those squid droids from Star Wars? I like it🙂
Kinda like in mass effect 2.
I hope that in a war, you will be on my side.......
half his crazy ideas would be your own downfall... the other half is what i'm worried about
Sander Datema Ask MandalMotors for a job! Maybe check out the MandalorianMercw, you could design a MEAN kit I bet!
hayden barnes agreed... I need these...
I feel like big ships are overrated lol
@@L._.A-06 how? large grid ships especially large ones can be extremely hard to kill fighters in space engineers are almost useless.
Try to make a ship with some kind of "mouth". A large ship with a large hole in the front. The point of the ship is to get near an enemy ship and capture it. Inside of the mouth will be a bunch of grinders to completely destroy an enemies ship.
You could try the same thing, but convert all of the sensors to detect asteroids and also put drills on them instead for little miners. Also, since the grinders would be spitting a debris field of resources out their bums, why not collect it for yourself with the collector drone I suggested on a previous video? Basically, the drone has a spherical gravity generator at it's core and is surrounded by collectors so that it gathers your goodies for you! I originally suggested this so it could follow you or your other mining drones to collect stray ore, but it would work great for this as well! Granted, that would be for if you wanted to stick around and steal their stuff instead of just leaving them a nasty present to find, but it would give you the option! I implore you to try it out!
YO I used that idea for one of my ships! I had 2 sphere gens on opposite and it would collect debris around me like a force field, great against rockets and turrets love to shoot the junk first!
Coolest thing I've ever seen in a game like this, i could watch this for hours ;)
Your profile pic makes this comment funny.
Radicrash Yeah i know, it makes most positive comments sound sarcastic.
Radicrash ikr
One well aimed rocket would essentially turn this into a light armor block with thrusters. No threat.
Of course, they'd have to see it coming.
Who would send just one when you can send a swarm. Preferably from every direction at once. 😸
To make these more effective, set up the timer block on these things to activate a warhead. Once they've buried themselves a little way into the hull, they detonate for maximum damage. The small warheads likely won't completely destroy the ship, even with a chain reaction of detonations but the damage should cause havoc to internal systems like generators, gyroscopes, medical bays and the bridge as well as softening the ship up for follow-up attacks by fighters and heavier frigates or battleships.
I feel like turrets would easily take these apart, however.
Turrets tearing these up can be fixed by adding some heavily armored decoy blocks to the sides to eat up the damage. Preferably ones that can be released prior to hitting the target so they don't prevent burrowing. Can perhaps even skip most of the armor if you can make the pod rotate on it's forward axis while it approaches the target.
Thank you for kind of answering my hypothetical question I posted back on your "Lock On Missiles, Sensor Guided Ordnance Concept" it even has the connector... although I suggested an ejector. Now that I think about it, I just realized that the grinder would pick up the bigger pieces and not be able to throw them out of the ejector, and adding the landing pads was a great idea to keep the grinders from being destroyed. You did a great job with them and I will definitely try to use these.
Add a warhead with a 2 minute timer so it explodes deep within the enemy ship?
New to this game, my favourites are weapons like these and the claw! Real raider type stuff! I had an idea involving that chain you made once, but it'd detatch from your ship and latch onto theirs, preferably wrapping and connecting at both ends, strapped with grinders or warheads or whatever.
Pirates and Reavers represent!
Could you engineer that into a scavenger drone, that would destroy parts of the enemy ship and fly back with materials.
These things are diabolical...
Cut through the hull and expose the enemy to the cold vacuum of space.
Good job!
Wow nice idea. I am really like this.
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Thats a really cool idea. Very creative and 'out side the box' in ways to get rid of a player's ship.
MAKE A HUGE CARRIER SHIP FILLED WITH HUNDREDS OF DRONES AND GET ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS TO BE IN A LARGE SHIP I THE MIDDLE OF THE SWARM OF DRONES
Lag
I'd love to see how you made it go back and retarget the enemy ship. that was amazing.
You can use them as automated salvage drones
I feel the effectiveness of these was not properly shown, you only tested it on a generic pre-built ship, but what about on your own designs?
Agreed
Just imagine how destructive i will be on worlds with sped up grinding speed to like 5x
glop cz not even that, have multiple ships carpet bombing a larger ship
raggedsolution21 and replace two of the landing legs with thrustrs and up thrusters un the back to melt through light armor and components snd the grinder to take care of heavy armor!
also imagine them grinding through heavy armor. for huge battleships even multi layer heavy armor. they wont do much before you disable them.
very situational weapon.
A good idea would be to add explosives to the inside, so that when a player starts to disable the drills, you can detonate them, denying the resources from the drills, and destroying even more of the ship.
I had created a few similar ships, except instead of using grinders, it used pistons that would push engines into the ship, melting straight through with incredible speed. These were of the large ship class, but relatively small. The largest of which, is a fully functional carrier that would launch troops out the front into the large hole that would be bored into the enemy ship in a matter of seconds.
A pearl harbor sort of idea....
ikr
JoshuaPlays how!? just how is this similar to PH?
Twoja Stara He said it in the video...
+Twoja Stara If you need reference its at 3:41
JoshuaPlays ok but in Pearl Harbour it was bombing not sabotage drones
When you mention those bugs from star wars I had this same idea myself when sensors came around.
Well you could add some sort of MG to your ship to always kill the player trying to stop the missiles...
Dude, you are like some sort of war master with some of these. By themselves, the ideas may be fallible, but in the chaos of battle, these could be rather effective, given the circumstances align properly.
put a warhead in it and set the timer so it gets to the middle of the ship and explodes
SgRampage1 Lol, I can imagine the chaos! xD
+SgRampage1 One problem I see with the timer would be the inconsistancies of the blocks and what routes that they would follow, but still, not a bad idea. We just have one little setback.
Well you would have to set the timer according to how heavily armored the target is to give time for the torpedo to chew through the armor for maximum damage.
and have sensor so when a player gets to close it blows up
Just slap a sensor on the back of the drone that detects a wide but short area around itself. The moment the armor of the ship passes in front of it, the warhead blows up.
You have a devious imagination, I love it. Imagine dozens of these things swarming around, you could deny an entire area cause no one would want termites on their ship.
I hope I don't face you on the opposite side of the battlefield, because you'd make a fearsome opponent indeed.
your name hahahaha
Unbelievable. That's the most interesting way of destroying a ship in Space Engineers I've ever seen.
this game complexity looks insane
It's not that complex, but if you want to make really complex stuff, you can. There's no mandatory complex process really.
bandzajus I bought it ASAP after some of his vids and it was definetly worth it! I can only recommend it as one of my favorite games of all time :D It's not as complex as it seems, mostly it's pretty easy especially once you get used to it. But the gameplay elements are highly complex, the programmers (Keen Software I believe) really put lots of work into this and did a more than amazing job! There is some really advanced stuff in the game too so you can make the most complex things you could ever imagine though if you ever felt like it, pretty much like Ian above me stated ;)
PUT THIS ON WORKSHOP PLEASE I LOVE THIS
The grinder torpedoes remind me a bit of a virus with how it looks and latches onto a target, then starts killing it. Just me?
not anymore, maybe we should call them virus' instead of torpedoes
XxVainFloxX Only issue is it doesn't really infect it x3
Otter of Toast true, but it goes in, does damage and leave, like a virus
XxVainFloxX A lot like a politician!
Otter of Toast lmao, so we got two names, virus or Politician
probably one of the trolliest ways to decimate a ship. I LOVE IT
put this on the steam workshop please...
That would be Really nice
love teh swarm effect of swinign around for another bite of the ship on those grinder drones though ^^
These are pretty cool; they're like buzz droids!
Collin Bardini STAR WARS SHIPS ARE KING OF THE BUILDS...
COLLIN BARDINI,YOU ARE RIGHT!
A went onto a random survival server, built two of these, one with drills, one with grinders, and dropped them off next to a asteroid base. i put the drill one outside of the base, and the grinder one inside the hangar. when i came back there was no base left and the drill drone was gone. (possibly because the grinder drone ground it up)
Imagine a swarm of these set loose randomly all over a ship. That'd be amazing :D
I was on a multiplayer server and i had a small ship grinder with a camera, controller, reactor, and gyro and it could all fit in one block. I invested in some antennas with an amazing range and i would float around is space, and when i saw a ship, i would grind in it, hopefully not alerting the player, eat all of the non vital parts of the ship, then slowly start taking out gyros and thrusters, then eventually reactors. I literally had a player with nothing left but a seat, 1 thruster, the front view of the seat, and a gyro and reactor. He didn't notice for 5 mins!
Aaron: "So you're probably wondering what the hell these things are in front of me."
Me: "Actually, I would say those are magnetic grinding torpedoes."
Aaron: "Wow that's exactly what they are! How did you know?!"
Me: "I read the title of the video. Mwahahahaha!!!!"
No they are anti magnetic torpedoes
Griffin Sells wat
Gosh, I've had this idea for a long long time, and only recently have I built up the will to begin doing it...
And you beat me to it.
My hat comes off to you sir! :3
Use theses on cap jack
This is great, I've been toying with this idea, too. Stick on a cargo container and they are the perfect salvaging drones
LastStandGamers
please put this on workshop :]
LastStandGamers
yeah!
LastStandGamers
even as old as this is i have to agree
this would be fun to play with
THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE!
I could try to make it, but i would fail with the sensors :(
i tried it .... that sensors are insane....
I had a similar idea a while back, but mine was much more basic. Using large ship parts, I used a small thruster, one small reactor, and a grinder. The basic idea was to launch several like missiles at an enemy ship and see what happens. They were quite effective but I am a bit more proud of another variant in which I placed a drill on the front. It works quite well for ships but it is amazing for drilling small astronaut sized holes in asteroids.
You should name these barnacles
Never, EVER, let Tazoo get these. Ever. At any time.
Why only use them as a weapon? These could be just as useful (if not more so, since then you don't have people trying to disable them) for salvage.
This has made me totally rethink making a ram ship as these seem far more useful and expendable
Blueprints pls ^-^
This is definitely the coolest thing I've seen bult in this game. I'm a big guerrilla tactics kind of guy so this is like candy to me
you should test this with sage
*****
......and you're a dipshit
You know, I don't find a lot of your special weapon designs to be practical in a survival war, but I see the potential for these things to be nasty...
Try plantery Ahhnaltion
It sucks horse cock.
I was thinking the same thing last month too.
:)
DeathBlazer git rekt m8
Beware of Space This spelling gave me cancer.
Beware of Space I'd like to see him play Total annihilation and supreme commander...
There are tons of different ways to give your opponents a nasty surprise.
Here's an example:
In survival mode you have this awesome, huge ship. Now you don't want your enemies to just take it over. So the solution is: rig it with warheads. Hide them within the armor near vital ship systems and the cockpit/bridge.
When your enemies intrude and you can't chase them out, press the "nope" button. This triggers a timer block which counts down 10 seconds (or whatever time you set up) and then triggers all the warheads at once. That way you can make a run for it and your opponents can't just take the ship for themselves. Also, since they also make a run for all the important stuff, they will probably get to the respawn screen as well.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ALL OUT WAR WITH LIKE 12 PEOPLE AND USE ALL YOUR PREVIOUS DESIGNS THE TURRETS THE TORPEDOES THE GRAVITY SHIELDS THE DROP PODS ALL THE GOOD STUFF! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE THIS WOULD MAKE FOR THE BEST VIDEO EVAR
I can trust you to come up with the coolest and most interesting ideas how to weaponize stuff in SE. Good work as always!
Can you post this on the workshop?
Yes!!!!! I’ve had this idea for real life for sooooooo long. Imagine warfare taking this direction. Or battlebots using something like this. Would ramp up the sci-fi of everything.
How do you "lock in" your ship with your landing gears, when you hit a surface?
Autolock mode.
Knsgf I didn't ask what it was called, I asked how to do it, like, which button to press?
Markowich Open the Control Panel and select the Landing Gear. There will be a check box named "Autolock"; tick it.
Knsgf Alright, thx :)
Alternately you could manually press P when you are close enough.
This is such a wonderful idea. I cannot fully express how much I envy you coming up with it.
potential troll weapon
Man, this is actually a great idea. Thanks for posting!
i'm know i late to this party, but i've devised a much more effective version - a bloatfly drone, winch is a big grid grinder on a piston attached to a drone core with 4 landing gears, it's hard to get onto a ship but if you're a good pilot you can basically penetrate through the entire ship.
I like the sounds of that. Got a video?
@@thomasc1830 nah, if i start making videos about S.E. i am not gonna get out alive
@@zlosov5817 understandable😂
I built 50 of these and made a huge ship for all of them, (I also modified them alot), well I used it on my strongest enemy who was alot stronger then most of my enemies and guess what happened, he started to try to shoot me out of the sky so I called back up and got those drills on and mainly I destroyed his main life source, we then made peace and he got some ships and we all lived nicely, I have no more enemy's also. So thanks for helping me end all my wars and have a awesome trading system and a one combined faction (: We have been attacked but all have failed
5 years to late but like everyone else is saying add a warhead, however what if you did the same thing with a decoy with or without a warhead surrounded by a few heavy armour then any turrets would shoot through its own ship to hit the decoy then blow from the warhead, love this idea of grinding drones
And if the ship was pressurized these would be lethal.
This is a really cool idea! Drop ship makes it perfect!
Just imagine a gun/weapon system that produces these and fires them at enemy shipping. Just more and more of these things tracking down and grinding at your ship, coming around for another pass over and over again like a plague of locusts. Oooh working title. "The 'Locust' Torpedo Array"
Reminds of Homeworld 2. Which reminds me, it gave me a lot of ideas. Nice job.
I like the idea of a player realising and not being able to turn their ship until the drones have been ground down, if they don't realise then they will end up with loads of debris inside the ship
I recently built a missile that can be launched from earth and can be remotely guided toward any target in space. It has a range of 50000m and 25 deployable decoys to prevent it from being shot down.
Reminds of Leeches in Homeworld Cataclysm. Job well done!
if your are successful in cutting ships in half you should have thrusters to push the two pieces away from each other that would really piss someone off lol
Imagine you and your friends attacking an big ship and the enemy ship is launching those pods at you at shredding your ship
Imagine more of these. Hundreds all latching onto your ship and just utterly destroying it. You'll never have time to stop them all
"The war has just started" lol k good luck fighting us with those ships over there. "WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR SHIPS NOOOOOOO
imagine letting a swarm of those out against an enemy construction area kilometers away and just destroying all of the ships in production. it could turn the tide of a war in minutes, especially if timed bombs within to detonate the remains and scatter the collected resources
Imagine having five of these in a fleet. Fighters rush forward to protect them in a spiral drill pattern, then these drop ships simply unload the cutters above the enemies cruisers.
The issue with most things like this is that they can be stopped. But in this case, enough of them would at least weaken the hull - and take either ammo or time to get them all off. This puts the enemy in a panic and potential to damage their own ship.
What would make this complete is a "Return home" function for automated ships. On signal they would just fly to say the position of a beacon. So you drop off the drones at an enemy ship, then they return to your ship with all the stuff that has been ground away.
These would be super handy to attach to small fast ships that can deploy them as a sort of swarm tactic. If you had a fleet of like 10-20 of these you could drop em off at several different targets and just cripple them
Already built my super weapon torpedo. Basically a grinder on the front with a camera block and remote block, allowing me to control it while in operation. Also has a deployer to spit out material and a warhead to detonate. I send it in to the shipand have it cuts its way through to the reactor, than blow the sucker. Expensive, yes, but still effective in simulations.
Oh look another fellow enter Elysium fan! Rip Xcom
For mine its a small drone that can fit inside a single large ship block with a grinder and a minigun so its like a soldier that you can deploy into someones ship from afar
I liked how when the torpedo cut through it still kept going so it pushed the ship down
maybe some people forget this but this is actualy usefull in combat situations, because when these things are grinding the ship someone needs to hack or destroy them, this means there is a minimum of 1 player involved in this, and if the targeted ship only has one pilot you can easily take the ship out while he is trying to get rid of this creatures
since those things actually lock onto ships and if they miss find their way back, imagine releasing like 50 of those in a battle to just swarm a ship and tear it to shreds.
Holy shiet you gave me nightmares
seems like it would be good to have a warhead on a time block so that when the mole enters the ship it would detonate creating a much larger area of damage compared to just a warhead penetrating the surface. This would also be a nice improvement because it would negate the process of someone eventually destroying the moles and if the timer was long enough might even kill someone trying to take out the mole. If you wanted to get fancy with this idea you could put a remote and camera block on the mole so that it could be manually detonated for maximum effect.
little hint: you can minimize the damage to your ship by taking the "activate drill" into a timer block on the drone, activating after a few seconds
still, can you develop a faster weapon? once these things are locked on, a single missile turret could take out 10 or more, even if they where at maximum speed, so it'd be good to install some kind of anti-turret maneuver, using timer blocks, for exemple (the engines a-d all are on maximum thrust overwrite):
tb1 activates tb2 and side engine a, while disabling side engine c (the opposing engine), tb2 runs down and when triggered, it activates tb3 and side engine b (b's opposing one), when tb3 triggers, it deactivates side engine a, activates side engine c and tb4, tb4 triggers and deactivates side engine b, activates side engine d and tb1.
this would make the drone move in an evasive maneuver to at least fool incontrolled turrets. with equal timing among the timer blocks, it would not move from it's normal course in total or change its direction, but evade missiles far away. and the recources for that shouldn't be too much
WOW, JUST WOW. I can't even imagine now, what all your weapons can do! Gravity gun, beacon dart, explosive dart, and now GRINDING DART!!!11! And Arron, please if you read this, please show them all working at the same time on the same ship, pleaaaase!
Another possibility. Lets say you want to decomission a ship and grind it down but no grind pit in the area. Then a ship like this can be useful, drop dozens of those small grinders and spit out. Use your large ship with spherical grav gen to pic up all the stuff and store it inside the big drone carrier. This way you can also retrieve drones by making them stop (if using an antenna)
for some reason I like calling them space parasites
One of your best concepts, I tried a much simpler version but gave up.
(drill and no sensors)
A tip for improvement is to have 2(/4) more landing bears one block back, helps with the harder impacts :)
True Space Engineering. Really nice.
Some one needs to make this ship into a one-block mod that spawns in swarms as a random encounter.
These look amazing btw like I bet any mothership would be devastated.
I combined it with a Small Torpedos and it has a Devastating Effect on a Enemy ship and one of my Torpedo Grinders Destroyed a Ship with one good strike destroying the 3 Reactors on the enemy ship