Phil Jackson on Michael Jordan in conversation with John Salley (Live Talks Los Angeles
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- Clip is from an hour plus talk with Phil Jackson in conversation with John Salley at Live Talks Los Angeles, June 12, 2013, discussing Jackson's book, 'Eleven Rings."
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Salley won championships with Detroit, Chicago and LA. Played with Isiah Thomas, Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. What a lucky dude
You forgot shaq. A man he enjoyed playing with.
Robert Horry played Hakeem Duncan Shaq
@@2005mssmsm what does that have to do with anything
What a life to live
All true, Sal was a super role player. You need guys like that to win, great coaches understand this. Rodman, Draymond Green type guys, Charles Oakey, and Ben Wallace. They may not light up a score board, but they contribute in ways you cant see.
Phil played against wilt and russell. Coached MJ and Kobe. Name someone else with more insight to a GOAT conversation?
Jerry west.. but he also says MJ is the goat
Kobe is definitely not in that conversation
@@user-ir3th6fd8g how could you possibly say kobe is not in the goat conversation he was the closest thing to Jordan but you have your opinion
@@user-ir3th6fd8g Kobe is thee most skilled player in NBA history. How the hell he’s not in the GOAT conversation?
@@darioja2469 thats not even true how you figure he is more skilled than mj or KD just because you hear people say that dont make it facts kobe is not top 10 he is top 15 but not in the goat convo
Phil by far said MJ was the best. He's just 'nice' about saying it.
Phil coach both Kobe and MJ so he doesn't one to really put one over the other but he knows MJ to him is the greatest. Kobe lost him two titles. He's undefeated with MJ and knows if he had MJ in 94-95 chances are he would have a four or five peat with MJ.
@@supratrd900 True he Loves both Jordan & kobe period
@@supratrd900 I think they’ve won 8 straight.
Jordan The GOAT
End of story
no.
@@Bluebirdfalling Who do you think the GOAT is?
@@zinnn.8842 Wilt is the GOAT.
WIlt is tied with MJ in points per game and is #1 in rebounds. Wilt also has the highest points per game season and rebounds per game. 37? laugh, Wilt had 50.
MJ never once was the best shooter. Wilt was. And no, Wilt did not just dunk the ball, most of his shots were fadeway jumpers.
"There's no I and me in team", "Yeah, but there is in win!". Wonderful conversation
me?
@@nomadcompany That's what I understood
theres a me in team
“Yeah but there’s an ME in that mother fucker” - Kobe
@@drewtap You beat me to it
Phil Jackson, greatest coach I've seen in my 65 years.
People don't give Phil Jackson enough credit because he coached Jordan, Pippen, Kobe, and Shaq. But he managed all those egos, and got them to buy into a system that helped them succeed as a team. Truly the Zen Master. He coached for 20 seasons, reaching the NBA Finals 13 times, winning them 11 times. Remarkable, even if he did coach all time greats. I have no doubt that had Phil coached LeBron James for most of his career, LeBron would have won more championships.
Lefrauds gonna quit. He'll rob a mud on Phils legacy. He still switches teams for super teams till this day and still falls short on achievements. He's good at trading his teammates behind their back wow dude might trade his son too lol
@@afambasil753uhhhhhh!🤭 touchy about something???
Lebron would not win more even w/ Phil. the problem is Lebron himself. he doesn't want to be coached. that's the reason he jump from one team to another.
Lebron cold have won more at Miami, a super team and a champion team already. specially under Pat Riley. don't you know why he left?, coz he want the coach fired!
imagine the audacity.. he went to Miami to win chips, when he can only have 2 out of 4, he then demanded the organization under Pat to fire the coach.
im sorry but if anything, LBJ hasn't accomplished anything solid to this day but stats padding...
or phil got his coaching career's first and probably last layoff by the real ceo
Lebron's gonna cry because Phil wouldn't trust him with final and winning shots, remember Pippen said he was lebron before lebron james haha
11 times in history an NBA player has won the scoring title and the NBA championship. Out of the 5 players who did this, Jordan was 6 out of those 11 times.
Frostshokula - nobody cares about scoring titles except delusional fans, who think scoring titles have some kind of divine, special meaning. So please explain to us why a scoring title is so special.
@@adolphdooley3632 you're the one who is delusional. In basketball, winners are determined by which team scored higher at the end of regulation. Obviously, a scoring champ or title indicates a player's ability to score. Although, it doesn't always translate to winning the chip. Unfortunately for LeFraud's fans, MJ won 10 scoring tittles in 11 full seasons with the Bulls, 6 of those are during his 6 rings and 6 FMVPs. 9 of those scoring tittles, he also won 1st defensive awards, simply proves he's as great on offense as on defense. Compared to LeBum's only 1 scoring title, MJ is definitely on a different stratosphere.
@@adolphdooley3632 if you need a explanation of why being the best scorer in a league of the best players the you need to stop watching basketball. The point of the game is to score more points than anyone.
incredible916 - MJ fan Clowns like to boast about MJ’s scoring titles he’s won, but nobody cares about scoring titles but Clowns! All of you MJ fan Clowns, need to quit Clowning around. You Clowns hate LeBron James for being such a great player. A bunch of Clown player haters. Nobody cares about scoring titles but Clowns!
Adolph Dooley
This dude probably values scoring less than assists (the most overrated stat in the game)
Name another good stat that a high school point guard could easily get in the NBA.
I could listen to Phil and John talk about basketball forever
Phil Jackson should write a book on The Last Dance
Is it about the NY Knicks?
He has
His bags are already packed 🤣 He doesn't need more money
John Salley was and is a great athletic, story teller and human being.
Mj the king
Kobe the prince
One and two for me always
Wilt was GOD!!!
@@llwells1 wilt chamberlain Choked in the championships.not a God a legend
@@mikemills8568 He was always too gentle of a giant. Dudes should've been scared to get in his way, but they knew if they took some charges from him, HE would back off. Wilt should've broke some bodies! They wouldn't be so quick to get in his way after he runs over them! He didn't want to hurt no one tho.
Love Phil Jackson
Phil was a genius coach. He created really a very good balance with a team. Knew very good also when to put bench players in the game to stay sharp and for example let Mike rest to perform better later in the game. You saw under Phil that the gameplan and focus just became better on the field. Sometimes it went wrong but most of the time very good.
wow amazing alrighty then
He was a good ego manager..I wouldn’t call him a great Xs and Os coach. He only won with the best players ever
Phil Jackson is at master level in basketball and we should listen to his wisdom and put the goat conversation behind. This guy being the best coach ever in NBA finalized it for all of us. Let's enjoy the game.
nope.
Hear that people?? The player with the Highest Scoring average in NBA History (Jordan).......held back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jordan broke one of those Records by Wilt that people thought would NEVER be broken.......and Jordan broke that Record while Holding back!!!!!!!!! DAMN!!!!!!!!!
Dr J's flare and athleticism was MJ's blueprint, and MJ became Kobe's, D-Wade's, LeBron's, and others after him.
MJ was the best in his era. He was a beast. He was the most athletic player, and one of the tallest at his position in that time. Aside from Drexler (Devin Booker), Steve Smith (DeMar DeRozan), Kendall Gill (Zach Levine), Reggie Miller (Rat Allen), competition was either too small or if they were taller and bigger, they moved like Frankensteins outside of the paint and he'd blow by them.
In past eras where he'd have countless players who could match him step for step, similarly athletic despite their sizes with the best players in the league being bigger and taller in stature (KD, LeBron, Antetekumpo, Dirk, Kawhi, Kobe, Harden and even players closer to his stature like Ginobli, Devin Booker, Westbrook, D-Wade, Steph, Kobe, Klay, T-Mac, Jimmy Butler, D-Rose, Lillard), giving a defense playing MJ problems that he didn't have to worry about in his era on a nightly basis.
Not saying MJ wouldn't have given eras after his problems as well, but objectively speaking it's small sighted to say that because MJ dominated an era that didn't have players as versitile and talented as players after his era, he's still the GOAT.
@@mobetta2092 -- You have to remember a couple of other things too. In the 80's and 90's, there were True Center and PF's. The 90's was voted the "Era of the Big Man" by either SC or ESPN, can't remember which. They compared Era's and the 90's was voted #1.
That means that when Jordan drove to the Basket, he had Oakley and Ewing in their primes, at their Peaks, waiting for him. Then the next night, he had Hakeem waiting for him. Another game, Mutombo right there waiting for him. Next game, D.Robinson. Another game, Rodman and Laimbeer.
Back then, Defense was still allowed. In today's NBA, Jordan would average MORE points. Defense has been BANNED. In today's game, players are not even allowed to Touch the player on offense! Add that to the fact that the Post is void of true "Big Men" of the past. All the post players of today are on the perimeter, so it would be a Paradise for a Player like Jordan. You can't touch him.......AND the post is all alone! OMG.
Because defense has been banned, today's game is paced so much faster. Because of that, teams are averaging 25 more shots per game. Can you imagine Jordan with 12+ more shots in a league with no defense and no bigs???? Jordan's scoring average goes beyond 45+ ppg while still winning titles.
You put ANY player from back in the day in today's game, their scoring average also goes up. Imagine Dr. J in today's game. Even players like Chris Mullin would go up at least one tier.
@@MasterSpade certainly the 80s and 90s were the eras of the big men, no arguments there.
Jordan was ahead of his time, which is no knock on him. That just goes to my point of how perimeter players weren't as competitive for MJ as perimeter players would be for him today.
Bigs were the best players and they were like lumbering Frankensteins who were no threat whatsoever outside of the paint. By the time MJ was on his way to the basket they had little to no options.
In this era, MJ would have his work cut out for him with players who'd make him work on the defensive end and bigs are more athletic.
Not saying MJ would be shutdown, but he wouldn't be as dominant as he was in his era....too small.
@@mobetta2092 -- Jordan, along with everyone else from back then, would be MORE Dominant in today's NBA. Back then, players were allowed to play Defense, and even "Thug Ball". Go watch videos of MJ getting past Dumars, then dunking on Rodman and Laimbeer. All while they were raping him.
If he can score 30+ppg in a Thug Ball league, imagine in today's NBA where defenders...........are not allowed to defend. They seriously cannot even TOUCH the player on Offense. The only time players of today hit the floor is when they Flop! Today's NBA is nothing more than a 3pt shooting contest where Defense has been banned.
Imagine putting Harden or Durant in the league in that 1984 Draft. Have them play the Bad Boys. Have them play those knicks teams. Have them play the pacers with the Davis brothers. They'd cry "toto....I don't think we're in our soft NBA anymore".
Now, put players that were not Superstar players back then, but were good players, in today's league. Players like Toni Kukoc, Detlef Schrempf, and Arvydas Sabonis. They would thrive in today's league. They were used to playing this style. They would go up at least 1 tier as players. They weren't too good at Defense, but today's league doesn't allow that anyway.
Bottom line, the league needs to bring back DEFENSE. At the very least, allow Hand-Checking. I'm not advocating to bring back "Thug Ball", but real true Defense. Until then, the NBA has become unwatchable.
@@MasterSpade there were lot of big men, but mostly dormant.. let that sink in.
Michael Jordan + Phil Jackson = Michael Jackson
lol XD
Where did Phil Jordan go?
Get that Michael Jackson nonsense outta here.
Wtf 😍😝
@J J MJ 23, you know I'm Bad, I'm Bad......and the whole world got the answer right now just to tell you once again I'm Bad.
There is no like other...the statement told by a reporter on Michael Jordan, which i agree and proven, in his games. He is fantastic....
I have never seen someone so calm.
Once upon a time there was a guy named Kawhi...
Basically, when Phil had this conversation with ML, only once did a player win a scoring title and a NBA Title in the same year. It was Kareem in 1971. The odds were against you, unless you are The GOAT
Phil Jackson is a teacher in life
Phil was the all-time best
Phil was the reason MJ min got cut he could score 30+ in 3quarters and have a seat 💺
This interview is funny, I love hearing about these stories.
Watch last :41 of Game 6 1998 Finals with Bulls down by 3 when Pippen was hobbled by back injury to see MJ’s will to win. Jordan acts like he’s going to pull up for jumper then blows passed Russel for easy layup. Down by 1. Then MJ sneaks from weak side to steal ball from Malone posting up Rodman. Jordan doesn’t call time out where Utah can figure out how to defend Bull’s last shot. MJ drives to free throw circle & swishes clutch shot to go up by a point with about 5 seconds left. Stockton misses top of key shot. Bulls win 6th championship. That sequence defines greatness. MJ’s determination to succeed was & is unmatched. Simply THE G.O.A.T.
Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time, his style and technique basketball fundamental attest to it and even his copycat kobe bryant is among as one of the best.
Nope, Wilt is the GOAT.
No one has ever won a scoring title and NBA title in the same year. MJ did it 6 times. Crazy.
Last dance, last episode when they show phil walk up to mj after winning. Phil was literally shocked at what he had just witnessed.
Totally agreed. I've said this in most channel. When I watched MJ saying to Phil, "I never gave up, I never gave up..." in the last episode of winning his last final, I swear it's so inspirational I had chills. This is the greatness mentality that not any 'great player' could ever achieved. #MJ the 🐐
@@mrloop1530 vice versa
@@jeypo85 it was also raw. Just plain what mj and Phil said
Both of these guys were able to push MJ to be even greater then he was!
NBA is an entertament industry, and Jordan was the best entretaner, he could score in many different ways, even over taller opponents, defend,with steals and blocks, and great ball handling. Then he started winning. People pay to see a star player or a winner, he was both, NBA attendance double as soon as he became a pro, and that goes for international basketball too.
Why was this so short? I was getting ready with my tea to sit down and enjoy the show and it ended.
It is a clip from this longer video also in the channel, but here it is:
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Zen Master Phil!
Phil is the GOAT coach 🐐
I just wish he turned out to be even 1/2 GOAT team president.
@@spinedoc18 Not everyone can achieve what Jerry West did - be succesfull on both roles . Even MJ was unable to get it right.
@@spinedoc18 Micheal is a bum chairman but he is the goat of basketball
Phil’s face lights up at the acknowledgment of John saying he’s a doctor j fan…
Phil was my favorite coach in my list
In his last Finals appearance, Jordan demonstrated to all why there is I in WIN.
He can help you solve your problem, he helped me bring my ex-lover back
MJ Goat period
Scoring tittle
Defensive player ..Era full of hall of famer
Mvp league
Mvp final
Should I say more
Doug Collins was in love with Michael, Phil just simply loved Michael and that's why they won championships.
Jordan is the GOAT.
I don't understand people who put Lebron over Kobe.
I agree!
I also think Bird was better then LBJ.
His new highlight video is great.
media propaganda
As great as Kobe was, after 3-peating while still a young and healthy player, the Kobe led Lakers teams went through seasons where they were nearly punching bags of the league.
After his 2nd season, whenever LeBron was healthy, no matter the personnel, his team was never in the bottoms.
@@mobetta2092 Yeah Kobe 3peated at 22 years of age. #lmao. Kobe's lakers went through a dry period after shack left from 2005 to 2007. Thats 3 years of not making the Finals. In 2008, Kobe was back in the Finals yet again and won again in 2009 & 2010 to add to his WINNING FINALS RECORD of 5-2. Thats 5 Championships. Lebron only has 4 with a Losing Finals Record. Kobe has a 3peat and Lebron has No 3peat. Kobe has a Dynasty and Lebron has No Dynasty. #lmao
@@jaydubb2005 this. As good as lebron is, he never seems to take the team on his shoulders unless he has great teammates to make him look better. Kobe never was afraid of dragging his team to the win in any way, and he was willing to fight his way to the top instead of trade to it
What Jackson told MJ is what Bird and Magic knew out of the gate. It has to be a team where all the players are involved. You can stop one guy, you can't stop five.
oh yeah? bwahhaaaahahahhaaa. wow.
Bird and Magic had better teams out of the gate. Check all of their teammates as rookies.
Bird and magic came in with hall of famer teammates Jordan came in with no all stars stop it
Can anyone imagine if Jordan had Shaq?
Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Shaq.
That'd be an even more unstoppable team than they already were
Z Moe they would have been unstoppable for sure but I think Shaq would of taken away some of mj’s greatness
@@clam741 nah, the best way to compliment a good shooting guard is to have a good center...MJ would've averaged more points and gotten more assists.
Bulls lost a coin toss for rights to draft Magic. Rod Thorn usually called "tails" out of basketball superstition but that night he called "heads" and the Lakers ended up getting the greatest point guard of all time
He did not need him. He got the best companion Scottie Pippen.He is also one of the best player of all time.
Salley will never say Jordan is the GOAT. He is a Bad Boy, Jalen already touched on this.
He needs to acknowledge JORDAN as the GOAT! Rodman already has!
@@emedina73 All day. I agree. He gives that credit to Pippen. Pip is top ten in my book but even Pip will tell you MJ reigns supreme.
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A huge part of being a coach is watching the game from a far, from a Bird's Eye view.
See what the players cannot see, from within the battle. Phil saw that Jordan was actually working too hard, and not utilizing the rest of team. Easier shots weren't taken. Opportunities were being missed, and defending the Bulls became too easy. He explained that to Mike.
Funny how he switches up when coach in the building..even tho he avg 47 against the Pistons
🐐🏀🏆💪
I think what people miss in what Phil said about Jordan is when Jordan was a more individualistic Stat machine early in his career the pistons beat him up and were able to get past him in the playoffs. When Jordan reduced his Stat stuffing role and started playing more team ball he became a legendary champion.
Fire the sound guy !
Mj is the GOAT 🐐🐐🐐👌
How? Lebron has more points than him.
signor pops lebron has more trips to the finals too right thats why hes goat :P
Charles Tan yes but to be the greatest you never should lost a finals appearance. And MJ did that. Simple. Period. Lol! Your QUEEN also started younger. Any logic? Lol
What about LeFlop? How would have he handled the triangle?
Jordan was such a GOAT, Phil had to teach him that his teammates are all NBA players that can help him win. Even sub-par NBA players when combined right can help a superstar to a championship.
Kobe Supreme Confidence
Phil is the Zen Master
Coach's need to incorporate the triangle in their offense, they'd be much more lethal if they did.
we all must realize that in those Bulls there were Goats .... one playing, one coaching
When Phil says “Michael” he sounds like dr. Loomis when he’s speaking about Michael Myers lol
watch 98 finals game 6 last 5 mins u ll see why he is the goat
Its clear that Jordan disregarded Phil's idea of how to win, and showed Phil that he could do it his way.
coach allowed all the "Main" players to win at all costs period! Quit on the team, mehhhh you play the majority of minutes when you come back, extended Vegas trip, take it and you will play over the guys who play the game right because you will help us "Win" at all cost! and on on on for 6 rings.
Nobody had to explain to Russell, Magic or Bird that it was about winning championships.
Phil didn’t make MJ better cut the 💩 MJ made Phil
MJ accepted the triangle offense because of Phil.
phil made MJ a winner.
players put up stats, teams put up banners.
Yudo NeidaNo well Phil without MJ didnt put up any banner until MJ came back. Lol Phil and the Bulls were 31-34 in 95 before MJ came back
@@ealicer81 phil needed players around him just like jordan did. jordan would have been the best player in the league with or without phil. what phil gave to jordan was the know-how to win and to get the most out of his team mates by actually trusting them to play their role. at the end of the day, you can't win by yourself.
I disagree. MJ would have been great regardless. But these 2 teaming up maxed out both of their abilities as coach and player.The Perfect storm for dominance.
man after helping out the knicks then bulls then lakers he should be taken care of by miami heat
Come on Sally let phil have it. Please.
Michael was so great, Phil needed to get his jaw fixed from smiling too much with the Bulls. The Zen master, Phil.
When Phil talks about the Pistons beating up or Jordan and Salley goes... 😂😂
Phil understood the assignment - his job was to coach Michael’s mindset first then his athletic skills second.
john realized this when he was on the bulls, not when he read the book!!!!!!!!!
Sound guy needs to EQ Phil Jackson’s mic better. Take out that hi end lol.
Current Bulls team needs Zen Master back asap.
Should have asked phil about morton's steakhouse
Listening to Phil talk about MJ's "weakness" is interesting, he would get nervous sometimes, handling the ball under pressure ?. Hmmm, sounds more like ME.
I think you misunderstood what Phil said. Phil was talking about MJ's teammates, not MJ.
2:20 Michael Jordan won the Scoring Championship every single year that the Bulls won the Finals
So if PHIL JACKSON doesn’t implement the TRIANGLE, MJ averages 38-40PPG? THE G.O.A.T.!!
Without the triangle they dont have 6 rings
Before Phil Jackson MJ led teams couldn’t get out of the first round in the playoff. There is a reason why MJ is known for only 6 years of his career 15 year NBA career.
That feedback from the mic is insufferable
Jordan still has the highest shots per game percentage than anybody in the history of the sport though 😂
God speedy?
Kareem.
Good argument.
All day.
Michael and Kobe weren't champions before him and were never champions after him.
How many titles did MJ, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe win before Phil Jackson was their coach? Zero. Let it sink in.
How many rings Phil won as a coach before getting Michael? Zero.
@@Hinshu85 Phil didn't get Michael. Michael and Scottie were already on the Bulls and Phil was an assistant before being promoted to HC after Doug Collins was let go.
Who’s running audio? Mic is feeding back
It probably took Jordan longer than most to realize he needed to share the ball more to maximize his success because his abilities meant he could often break that rule. He was so good that he usually could go against 3 guys and still score efficiently. Guys with less abilities immediately realize their limitations because playing hero ball won't work for them, but it often could with Jordan; his scoring abilities were so insane that he could get away with it. In fact, he could get away with it as much as or more than anyone who ever played, so in that sense his accepting a more team-oriented approach was inherently harder for him to come to terms with than for literally anyone else. This dynamic is epitomized in Steve Nash's answer to Kobe's question, "How do you trust your teammates so much?": "I have to."
Proof that MICHAEL JORDAN was STAT PADDING and BALL HOGGING for that SCORING TITLE
“Who da fook is this guy” - Connor Mgregor
I do not like John Salley. I think he thinks he knows more about basketball than others because he played. He just doesn’t make sense in some of his conversations with other tv outlets. He says Scottie is more talented than MJ in a skill set. What? Just don’t like him. Tell me I’m wrong.
Michael Jordan was going to be an all time great top 10 player ever but Phil made hiM the GOAT because he was able to unlock the best version of MJ. People always say “Jordan won nothing without Pippen” and that’s true but he also won nothing without Phil
Jordan's first MVP season came in 1988 (Before Phil Headchoaching the Bulls). He led the Chicago Bulls to a 50-win season. He played all 82 games, led the league in scoring (35.0 points), minutes (40.4), and steals (3.2). He became the first player to ever win the MVP and DPOY award the same season.
@@arielgarcia2642 Yes he was a great player before Phil. No doubt inner circle HOF trajectory. But Phil helped him become the GOAT.
@@iloveresses7277 No doubt my man. I was just point it out.
If Bron could have been fortunate enough to have had this guy as is coach during his prime years no telling what we'd be saying about him now "BUT" he wasn't that fortunate but he still did good but not good enough to be the Goat🤣🤣🤣👎
I hated the Pistons but John Sally was and is a complete class act!!
To be called the greatest you would think you need the most titles
Why? Messi doesn’t have World Cup. Neither does C Ronaldo. Maradona only has one. Doesn’t mean they can’t be seen as one of the best or the goat.
Same with basketball. MJ has 2 Olympic golds which is once every 4 years. If he wanted to be on the 1996 team, he would have been. He won an NCAA title. Team trophies is different to individual awards and MJ has more
Ok, there's one of mj's masters. That's what phil called himself. You didn't know. Do your homework.
Michael had a limited view point on his own teammates.
I guess the next GOAT challenger will be a player who lifts up the team.
Who could that be?
MJ is the greatest to ever play the game. Yes, I'm talking about Magic Johnson!
That's cool. Magic has always been in the convo. It's only to these new cats that he's not. Picking Magic as your goat ain't gonna cause a revolt. Only people who can lay claim to goat is Jordan, Magic, Kareem and Russell. Nobody else.
@@mpound97 Wilt Chamberlain? How about Larry Bird? There's two more you could add to that list. My opinion is Wilt #1 and Larry #2.
@@mattlenox4361 great players but that list starts with mike! Bird top 5 and wilt lost a lot too..I have wilt in top 10
Phil was tired, that’s why there wasn’t a 7th championship run.
John Salley is a little bitter.
He did it with David Stern and the refs, that how he made him a winner. (Help) Donahue, the cheating ref ( remember him) was told, with other refs dont call on mj. Called jordan rules, remember that. Detroit stand up. They bully that clown.
Salley has about 50 different versions of whether he thinks Mike is the Greatest of All Time or Not. Sometimes he is, sometimes he isn't. Typical pothead.
Rigged..LOL
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Bron cry😂😂
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