How Strong is Markus Ruhl vs Dorian Yates?

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  • How Strong is Markus Ruhl vs Dorian Yates?
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  • @StrengthUniverse
    @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci +7

    Thanks for watching. Please comment below.
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  • @Kneto
    @Kneto Před 4 měsíci +49

    That locked legs of Dorian in the leg press give me shivers. My knees are hurting from watching

    • @adamdahlstrom2095
      @adamdahlstrom2095 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Hehe was looking for this sort of comment, I 100% agree, hurts me tooo

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci +7

      I was thinking the same while editing the video

    • @luke-kun9030
      @luke-kun9030 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I couldn't even look at it

    • @Berserk1717
      @Berserk1717 Před 4 měsíci +3

      It looks dangerous and awful but trust me it isn't actually

    • @Joe_Pittard
      @Joe_Pittard Před 4 měsíci +1

      I always lock out, granted, I've only done five plates on the leg press for my sets, so maybe it's only an issue when you get real heavy, but I've never had an issue. No knee pain, no backwards bending. Just don't ego lift, go down all the way, and you'll be fine

  • @baldymagoo
    @baldymagoo Před 4 měsíci +24

    On form alone, Dorian hands down wins.

  • @toptextbottomtext3062
    @toptextbottomtext3062 Před 4 měsíci +13

    Ruhl's bench form was fucking absurd. I'm not even sure if it's appropriate to call that a bench press because it looks more like a guillotine barbell fly, and to do that with close to 5 plates is inhuman.

  • @Pantelifts10
    @Pantelifts10 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Interesting comparison. Both mass monsters and heavy trainers

  • @theeclecticlifewithsam
    @theeclecticlifewithsam Před 4 měsíci +9

    Nice. I've been a big fan of Marcus for years. Timing is everything with how far a bodybuilder can progress in his placings. Dorian came up at the right time as Haney's reign was closing. Marcus had to deal with Jay, Ronnie, Nasser and others when he was coming up. The competition was deeper for him, IMO. Great video of two amazing competitors! 👍

    • @dj_m1999
      @dj_m1999 Před 4 měsíci

      you're in denial, Dorian's competition throughout the 90s was steeper than what Marcus had to deal with.
      Every single name except for Jay saw their primes during the 90s.
      When was Nasser at his best? 1996 and 1997 when he was placing in the top 3. Not afterwards.
      When was Shawn Ray at his best? 94 and 96.
      When was Levrone at his best? around '95.
      Flex? 93.
      These same people were placing top 2 and 3 during Ronnie's era as well, but they weren't in their primes anymore, except for Cutler whose first Olympia was in '99 and Yates was already retired.

  • @ilmu7893
    @ilmu7893 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Future video idea: The strenght of Jordan Peters compared to some other strong bodybuilder?

  • @up-statestrong4451
    @up-statestrong4451 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Markus Ruhl's bench press form is very scary. It almost looks like a Guillotine Press when you come right under the chin instead of lowering the weight lower to your ribcage. I cant believe he never tore his pecs.

    • @Schmandgrab
      @Schmandgrab Před 4 měsíci +4

      He actually did tear his pec which led him to retire. It was a slow process,first notice by a photographer, but got worse over time.

    • @Schmandgrab
      @Schmandgrab Před 4 měsíci +3

      He stated himself that he would press with a different form if he could go back and change things.

  • @JohnPeter1940
    @JohnPeter1940 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Best back vs best delts& chest !

  • @Sthiwatari
    @Sthiwatari Před 4 měsíci +3

    Two legends in one video ❤

  • @George-sv1fm
    @George-sv1fm Před 4 měsíci +4

    Quality, as always!

  • @Bavarian_Lifting
    @Bavarian_Lifting Před 3 měsíci +5

    Dorian definitely did NOT bench 500x8😂 he barely got 405x5 on incline, that doesnt make any sense

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 3 měsíci +2

      I have doubts but he did say he used 160 dbs for shoulder press and did flys with 120lbs both of which are verified with videos or photos so who knows, maybe he got stronger later in his career?

    • @Mahmoud123_
      @Mahmoud123_ Před 27 dny

      The footage in the video before his blood and guts video , he is not the same size , I don't believe him specially when say (like) 500

    • @Mahmoud123_
      @Mahmoud123_ Před 27 dny

      How ever it doesn't matter I will never be able to hit that weight 😂😂

  • @kevinprendergast5885
    @kevinprendergast5885 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Johnnie Jackson vs Ronnie Coleman next! Glad to hear your narration again.

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks. Johnnie v Ronnie: czcams.com/video/oHFzQDOp4rA/video.html

  • @b_rabbit435
    @b_rabbit435 Před 8 dny +1

    I'd like to see Magnus Samuelsson vs Svend Karlsen.

  • @stupidbingus123
    @stupidbingus123 Před 4 měsíci +3

    nice video brother

  • @justaguyfromreddit
    @justaguyfromreddit Před 4 měsíci +3

    damn, haven't seen you in a while, youtube was shadowing you a lot, I never saw any of the recent uploads

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci +1

      This is only my second video since the start of Novermber. I expect it will be sometime before YT start giving my videos any exposure.

    • @justaguyfromreddit
      @justaguyfromreddit Před 4 měsíci

      @@StrengthUniverse hows the recovering is going buddy?

  • @Isumaninja
    @Isumaninja Před 2 měsíci

    The "Stupid Bingus" in your monotone style killed me lol. Love all your vids

  • @thedailybullshowyoutube
    @thedailybullshowyoutube Před 4 měsíci +2

    How about a video on "the worst synthol abusers ever" im curious how bad it can get

  • @hanswinkler8014
    @hanswinkler8014 Před 4 měsíci +1

    „Urs spottet Markus Rühl beim Seitheben“ in this Reel you can see Markus do lateral raises with 30kg in the age of 50

  • @factoryape79
    @factoryape79 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great to have you back 👍

  • @marcstarc
    @marcstarc Před 4 měsíci

    True.

  • @JUSTAMAN012
    @JUSTAMAN012 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Looks like i am first 😁

  • @damiensmith9240
    @damiensmith9240 Před 4 měsíci

    Welcome back. Hope you're fully recovered.

  • @colinluby5950
    @colinluby5950 Před 4 měsíci

    Cybex leg press and hack seem harder to train with than some other makes. They did compete on the same stage

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Dorian retired in 1997, the same year Markus won his pro card.

    • @colinluby5950
      @colinluby5950 Před 4 měsíci

      @@StrengthUniverse Sorry, my mistake

  • @kalzonenu
    @kalzonenu Před 2 měsíci

    Steeper angle=more force Dorian win
    I would also argue that skipping the bottom part of a military press makes it dramaticly more easy. So does a smithmachine.
    Also Ruhls inclined bench is more of a normal bench when you lift your ass off like that.

  • @giuseppelucido5780
    @giuseppelucido5780 Před 4 měsíci +2

    IN THE NEXT VIDEO DANIEL BELL VS JESUS OLIVARES PLEASE...💪👌

  • @mauricejenkins2819
    @mauricejenkins2819 Před 4 měsíci +1

    First of all with a Smith machine as you said you’re not doing that true weight that’s on the bar because of the counterbalance! But I also think more important is the fact that you do not have to your self balance the load as you move it ,it (which may be bad) has a predetermined bar path prior to you even attempt the movement! And I enjoy listening to your post not only for the history and comparisons, but your accent is cool dude💪

  • @user-jk8sq4qt9t
    @user-jk8sq4qt9t Před 4 měsíci +1

    Do Kyle vs itsadreamworld plz

  • @billj4525
    @billj4525 Před 3 měsíci

    That wasn't even lose to 518 on the shoulder press. Watch the actual video and look at the plates, and it's like just over 3 plates a side. The guy who made the video saying over 500 originally was lying or just had no clue. I have seen the video and counted the weight.

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 3 měsíci

      I've been training for almost 4 decades and speak to many of the athletes so saying I'm "lying or just had no clue" is just plan disrespectful. Here is the original video. You can clearly see 3 x blue (20kg each) and 3 x yellow (15kg each) per side plus the weight of the bar. Please feel free to count the plates yourself: czcams.com/video/0vgjAKoZHGc/video.html

  • @tjrocha7732
    @tjrocha7732 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I made it

  • @christopherseat9871
    @christopherseat9871 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Markus smoked cigarettes. DORIAN YATES didn't.

  • @billj4525
    @billj4525 Před 3 měsíci

    Full range of motion with on leg press with 1500 is way way harder than the short range of motion with 2094 as well. I have seen Ruls use close to rull range of motion and 1100 pound was challenging for him. You can't compare lifts with completely different ranges of motion. A lot of these lifts are just wrong.

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 3 měsíci

      As per the commentary, differences in grip, ROM, form and equipment are all highlighted

  • @giuseppelucido5780
    @giuseppelucido5780 Před 4 měsíci

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES , VERSUS 4EVER!!!💪

  • @rexdaugherty1987
    @rexdaugherty1987 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Markus for the leg press

    • @TheCaliRhino
      @TheCaliRhino Před 4 měsíci

      Nah, those hand assists on the knees is a major boost. I was leg pressing 1000 pounds last year for reps & the hands on the knees makes it way easier.

    • @hanswinkler8014
      @hanswinkler8014 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@TheCaliRhinoMarkus tells in this DVD the hands are just for the safety und not for the help, Im from Germany, Im so sorry for my bad english

    • @PiTeKCraft
      @PiTeKCraft Před 2 měsíci

      @@hanswinkler8014 def my thoughts

  • @ytsux9259
    @ytsux9259 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I don't believe the 500 x 8 bs claim!!!

  • @adamrojas8547
    @adamrojas8547 Před 4 měsíci

    Markus all the way

    • @billj4525
      @billj4525 Před 3 měsíci

      His legs were strong, but he actually wasn't that strong for his size. It's pretty obvious when you watch him working out. I mean it's pretty obvious Marcus couldn't bench that 463 without a spotter and lifting his body off the bench. Is he really strong? Well obviously yet, but just not super strong like a Ronnie Coleman. There are other guys stronger, many.

  • @robranko5931
    @robranko5931 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Dorian is d best but 8 reps of 500lbs??????????????????????

  • @kckubinski5621
    @kckubinski5621 Před 3 měsíci

    Dorian was 5ft9 Markus 5ft10.5
    Marcus was way bigger and stronger uncrowned Mr Olympia! Best of all time markus!

  • @joebot9309
    @joebot9309 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Marcus had much better legs

  • @Bigbencher
    @Bigbencher Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dorian lifted the weights himself...I don't know what Markus was doing on occasion

  • @Geckoliga
    @Geckoliga Před 4 měsíci +1

    I'd give it all to Dorian, cause of heavy weights and very good technique.
    Markus was/is still overrated: heavy stageweight small condition; heavy workweights small technique. 😘😊

  • @user-ol2qw7kx8f
    @user-ol2qw7kx8f Před 4 měsíci

    Every lift was helped, not any clean lift

  • @marcstarc
    @marcstarc Před 4 měsíci

    Almost every lift shown is assisted. No real powerhouses imo.

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci +1

      They are all hands on that makes the point in which they receive assistance very hard to judge.

  • @theotherchannel2028
    @theotherchannel2028 Před 4 měsíci +4

    with 150x6 seated press you ain't pressing 227 8 times on the bench mate, no way

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci +1

      There is no equation for carry over of an individuals strength from a shoulder press to bench press.

    • @theotherchannel2028
      @theotherchannel2028 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@StrengthUniverse yes but there is common sense, and also the gym experience

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@theotherchannel2028 I've got plenty of both but I wouldn't dare to assume what someone could bench press based on there overhead press. Some people, genetically aren't very good at overhead

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I hate their bs claims!!!

  • @edwardhinton1615
    @edwardhinton1615 Před 4 měsíci +1

    6 Mr Olympia's to zero tells you who was the strongest.

  • @Joseph-lr3lt
    @Joseph-lr3lt Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dorian was 5'4&3/4-- Marcus was 5'6&1/4

    • @incidentus7626
      @incidentus7626 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Dorian was 5’10 markus was comparable to ronnie in height maybe even a little bit taller

    • @MellonVegan
      @MellonVegan Před 4 měsíci +7

      There is more than enough video evidence of them next to other people. What you're saying is just wrong.

    • @dj_m1999
      @dj_m1999 Před 4 měsíci

      Ronnie is the same height as Dorian...​@@incidentus7626

    • @Pantelifts10
      @Pantelifts10 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Troll. Marcus was close to 5'11 at his prime. Stood beside him same height as me

    • @dj_m1999
      @dj_m1999 Před 4 měsíci

      Ronnie and Dorian were the same height@@incidentus7626

  • @BruceWayne-ri4wr
    @BruceWayne-ri4wr Před 4 měsíci

    Dorian bench pressed 500 lb for 10 reps he said that on Patrick bet David interview I don't think any of these bodybuilders are doing that

    • @Pantelifts10
      @Pantelifts10 Před 4 měsíci +8

      I don't believe it. Exaggerations. He had 405X6 on Incline on his prime.

    • @samscharp3367
      @samscharp3367 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Kevin Levrone was. He put on a master class when it came to bench press

    • @Pantelifts10
      @Pantelifts10 Před 4 měsíci

      @@samscharp3367 I believe that Levrone did it cause he had 3-4 reps 500lbs on a video after his torn chest injury. So definitely believable

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Lets not forget that Kevin tore his pec going heavy on the bench press

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  Před 4 měsíci

      @BruceWayne-ri4wr Dorian quite clearly states the weight and numbers of reps he performed on this video

  • @bugmeanie6526
    @bugmeanie6526 Před 4 měsíci

    🧙‍♂️🪄💨 It comes down to long-term sustainability.