Why Old Games Look So BAD

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  • @nithssh
    @nithssh Před 4 lety +1714

    I still remember Taran campaigning for adobe to add nearest neighbor scaling, and asking viewers to vote for that feature request in the adobe forums or something.

    • @HankW
      @HankW Před 4 lety +262

      And Adobe still hasn't FUCKING DONE IT!

    • @techquickie
      @techquickie  Před 4 lety +519

      That was merely a tweet, not a request on an LMG channel. But, here's the request: adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/37024072-nearest-neighbor-scaling-sampling-simple-and-v
      -Taran

    • @StevenZephyc
      @StevenZephyc Před 4 lety +193

      @@techquickie God the answer adobe give is basically "we are too lazy, nice day bye bye"

    • @MrGoldenfresh
      @MrGoldenfresh Před 4 lety +12

      @@StevenZephyc 😂😂

    • @ElijahCiali
      @ElijahCiali Před 4 lety +28

      Steven Zephyc That’s common for Adobe

  • @hiddenmimic3935
    @hiddenmimic3935 Před 4 lety +2289

    "Retro games"
    Pulls out Wii...
    Realizing the Wii came out almost 15 years ago...

    • @RadioactiveBlueberry
      @RadioactiveBlueberry Před 4 lety +257

      How long do we need before calling Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3 as retro?

      Oh wait they are the same generation...

    • @steffenstengardvilladsen3740
      @steffenstengardvilladsen3740 Před 4 lety +48

      I also think of pre-PSX consoles and Amiga when "retro"-gaming is mentioned.

    • @davidfrischknecht8261
      @davidfrischknecht8261 Před 4 lety +89

      @@steffenstengardvilladsen3740 When I hear "retro games", I think of the 8- and 16-bit consoles.

    • @darrylhannington1333
      @darrylhannington1333 Před 4 lety +6

      Our school has a wii

    • @iochisono97
      @iochisono97 Před 4 lety +31

      what have i done with my life?

  • @Quad5Ny
    @Quad5Ny Před 4 lety +1018

    Taren should host more, he's gotten really good being on camera.

    • @K.R.X
      @K.R.X Před 4 lety +24

      Isn't his name Taran?

    • @farikkun1841
      @farikkun1841 Před 4 lety +22

      @@K.R.X karen

    • @mrericmendez5049
      @mrericmendez5049 Před 4 lety +14

      Linus is good but I like seeing new faces occasionally too!!

    • @naomi_moon
      @naomi_moon Před 4 lety +7

      yeah usually im indifferent about techquickie but this video was solid

    • @AlbertJarodIbay
      @AlbertJarodIbay Před 4 lety +13

      Taran tech tips

  • @daniel_ghax
    @daniel_ghax Před 4 lety +1572

    Taran be like:
    Director
    Host
    Editor
    Writer
    Art Director
    *hippity hoppity you're now my property*

  • @andrewsprojectsinnovations6352

    I guess I'm in the minority here; I remember the old, bulky CRT's these games were meant for, and just how blurry those things could be (especially after decades of heavy use). Bi-cubic and higher do still blur the image too much, but I find that a simple bi-linear algorithm, paired with a basic scanline overlay for 240p, can provide a rather convincing effect. Those games weren't meant to be blurred into oblivion, but they weren't made for sharp digital displays. 480p (and even 480i) games, while not HD, were sharp enough to look decent with the default upscaling methods but still, ironically, look much sharper on blurry analog displays.

    • @idkrossplay
      @idkrossplay Před rokem +6

      Not sure what you're trying to explain. The reason CRTs look sharper is because at low resolution, the electron gun literally skips lines when drawing frames, and that's known as "scan lines". When you draw an image with scan lines it creates the illusion that it was originally twice as sharp and then cut in half

    • @michaeljurney8354
      @michaeljurney8354 Před rokem +8

      What he is trying to say is simply that on a CRT the eyes were round not square. (by whatever effect) you couldn't see sharp pixels, and thats whats important.
      The authentic experience isnt to have crisp clean pixels. But soft round edges. I think of the above bicubic is the closest to what it looked like originally in real life.

  • @Orchestructive
    @Orchestructive Před 4 lety +427

    "... find your old console."
    Me: Ah yess... NES, SNES, Master System... wonderf--
    *sees them pull out Wii*
    Me: ... ...

    • @Sp1tFire92
      @Sp1tFire92 Před 4 lety +24

      Well, it âme out in 2006,that allready kind oc old for a console/hardware.

    • @campkira
      @campkira Před 4 lety +3

      well yeah wii are very old... only people still had it in tv shelf is old people who just want so swing in front of tv... which not that many... well swich can do the same thing but alot of people just do fit ring... sad...

    • @BoydTheMilkmanX
      @BoydTheMilkmanX Před 4 lety +3

      @@campkira Because it was a lame gimmick that barely worked.

    • @unlimited8410
      @unlimited8410 Před 4 lety +14

      @@BoydTheMilkmanX Being able to aim better than dualstick is definitely a "gimmick".

    • @badcatalex
      @badcatalex Před 4 lety +1

      @@Sp1tFire92 it's old but at least it does psudo-16:9

  • @Revenant_Knight
    @Revenant_Knight Před 4 lety +57

    Great video, but even if you have perfect pixel replication it won’t look like your memories. Why? Because TVs in the 90s couldn’t replicate perfect pixels. They could do native resolution, but you often had scan lines, comb filters, and other issues associated with CRTs that would cause a natural blur to the games. This made the art look smooth, which developers knew about when they designed the art. In essence, a bit of blur on the pixel art was expected. Don’t believe me? Play an SNES game on a good old fashioned CRT with S-video and then play a modern pixel art game.

    • @HollowRick
      @HollowRick Před rokem +2

      This ^^^

    • @juststatedtheobvious9633
      @juststatedtheobvious9633 Před rokem +4

      I'd settle for modern retro gamers just accepting dithering as a way to extend a limited palette, and not something most of us ever saw.
      Also, it'd be great if they'd figure out how to display Capcom arcade titles in the correct 4:3 aspect ratio.
      Or if they'd realize that the warm glow of CRT scanlines doesn't make an image darker.

    • @idkrossplay
      @idkrossplay Před rokem +2

      Anyone who doesn't believe you wouldn't be able to do that lol

    • @km_studios
      @km_studios Před rokem +6

      This has why it annoys me so much when I hear retro games complain about all the filters when playing pixel art games nowadays. Sure, I think some of these filters grossly overdo it (like in the mobile versions of Final Fantasy 4-6), but there absolutely WAS filtering when playing games back in the day. You did not see every individual pixel! Do people just not remember what it was like to play games on a CRT?

    • @madness9651
      @madness9651 Před rokem +3

      @@km_studios Yup, this exactly. Actually I think it's the opposite with early 3D games like N64, these look way better with modern enhancements like 60 fps and sharper resolution, and a modern screen.
      But it were the CRTs technical limitations that made pesudo-3D games like Donkey Kong Country look like magic.

  • @Minitomate
    @Minitomate Před 4 lety +61

    Manufacturers: We care about improoving our scaling methods to be more precise and efficient.
    Taran: And how about nearest neig-
    Manufacturers: *N O*

    • @joshi_6887
      @joshi_6887 Před 3 lety +2

      jvalex18 plus everyone has moved over to the ossc, retrotink 2x and framemeister for retro console scaling because they are superior in EVERY way to ANY TV’s scaling, yes, even for vhs tapes! Framemeister makes an INCREDIBLE job with 480i content, it is low lag and the result is stunning for PS2 for example as well as VHS tapes! (OSSC is pretty trash on 480i, uses bob and bob isn’t, well, pretty?? and the difference is of a milisecond so why bother with ossc 480i? Retrotink’s 480i scaling is okay at best to me), but all three options offer less than 1 ms of lag for the scaling, and they support 240p, 480i, 288p, 576i, 480p, 576p etc.... (too many supported resolutions without problems!)

  • @tdkumon
    @tdkumon Před 4 lety +535

    Me: hmm i should do my homework
    Also me: ah *Why Old Games Look So BAD* interesting, interesting...

    • @jacob_beck
      @jacob_beck Před 4 lety +3

      Same

    • @cscscscss
      @cscscscss Před 4 lety +1

      do*

    • @The-Torbey
      @The-Torbey Před 4 lety +4

      @@cscscscss Maybe he creates his homework before he works on it :D

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 Před 4 lety +1

      nah, drop that homework, drop out of school, and just become a youtuber and make millions! its THAT easy!

    • @GroteGlon
      @GroteGlon Před 4 lety

      @@musek5048 good luck

  • @tdsora
    @tdsora Před 4 lety +243

    i love how more and more LTT staff are getting airtime. the face is fresh and the quality is just as good

    • @frogger1555
      @frogger1555 Před 4 lety +22

      Taran's face has been with LMG before the LMG name XD

    • @tuckfuddyduddy
      @tuckfuddyduddy Před 4 lety +3

      Taran has been around the LMG videos since.... eternity.

    • @tdsora
      @tdsora Před 4 lety +6

      @@frogger1555 yeah he was there, but how many videos were just him as the main host? in other vids it was just, hey its taran, he edits videos, and uses crazy shortcut and hotkeys to do it

    • @RiskyBRiskyB
      @RiskyBRiskyB Před 4 lety +1

      @@tdsora dude, stop. Nothing wrong with being new to the party. A new party guest is more exciting than an old party guest! Nothing wrong with it!

    • @Kevin-ep8sy
      @Kevin-ep8sy Před 4 lety

      I didn't even realise this was ltt omg

  • @glenwaldrop8166
    @glenwaldrop8166 Před 3 lety +15

    Bicubic looks more like it did on those old TVs.
    Remember the old TVs were 480i, fuzzy, a degree of motion blur due to the fade time and the way the CRT scanned the image across the screen.
    Most the blurring functions of these TVs and emulators make it look like it did back then. We couldn't see the individual pixels on old fuzzy screens.

    • @Usabell
      @Usabell Před 11 měsíci +3

      Motion blur is actually more of an issue with modern flat screen TVs. If you have a chance to do so, just compare a smooth and fast side scroller on both. On the CRT you can easily 'lock onto' details while they are scrolling, on the flat screen they become doubled/ghosting/blurry/smeary and hard to lock on to with your eyes.

    • @glenwaldrop8166
      @glenwaldrop8166 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Usabell I'm not talking about motion blur I'm talking about the fuzzy nature of the screen itself. The screen was energized by the electron stream and that actually takes a moment to fade.
      Motion was smoother on CRT than early LCDs for sure, I'm talking about a paused screen with Mario or Sonic the Hedgehog on it, you could not see the stair stepped spikey hair on the CRT TV, you could on the old computer monitors.

  • @darkmagician1184
    @darkmagician1184 Před 4 lety +48

    him: "why do retro games look blurry"
    me (with my CRT): what is he talking about?

    • @blahuhm6782
      @blahuhm6782 Před 4 lety +14

      No mention of CRT or interlacing vs progressive, aspect ratio, etc...

  • @TheSDBux
    @TheSDBux Před 4 lety +168

    Damn, Taran has been practicing his speech skills. Trying to resolve this version and the old "artist in a dungeon" appearances.

  • @Shadow-ig3hf
    @Shadow-ig3hf Před 4 lety +206

    Taran: "The real world is not pixelated'
    Crap.....I can't afford a new pair of glasses

    • @MrMediator24
      @MrMediator24 Před 4 lety +16

      That's just bad upscaling

    • @gamechannel1271
      @gamechannel1271 Před 4 lety +9

      @@MrMediator24 Nope, that's light rays hitting multiple photoreceptor cells in the back of your eye instead of converging at a single point because your eye is misshaped.

    • @randomplayer6461
      @randomplayer6461 Před 4 lety +13

      @@gamechannel1271 no, its just bad upscaling

    • @DanAikins
      @DanAikins Před 4 lety +1

      If you're being serious about the glasses, check out glassesusa.com. get a pair for like $20

    • @ryazortheeyezor1548
      @ryazortheeyezor1548 Před 4 lety +6

      Nah I’m just turning down my graphics so I can see more fps.

  • @ProfaneGrue
    @ProfaneGrue Před 4 lety +75

    It's very interesting and informative, however for retro gaming specifically, it would have been prudent to mention that as a gamer you were almost certainly playing these retro titles for the first time on a CRT monitor. Those pixel sprites would never appear as crisp as the images ripped straight from the code you see displayed in the modern era. In fact, some artists for NES/SNES games accounted for this CRT phenomenon and used sub-pixeling to make better graphics. Playing with ultra crisp sprites is fine, but its only a preference, and should be understood to not really be the most authentic experience as to how the game would have been consumed on release.

    • @TaranVH
      @TaranVH Před 4 lety +16

      The crisp sprites are what were hiding behind the shadow mask of a CRT all along. And yeah, it's a charming look. I considered talking about CRT scaling, but chose not to, as we have other videos about CRTs. With all the "backlash" in the comments, now I wish I'd at least mentioned it.

    • @jonnyesper6698
      @jonnyesper6698 Před 2 lety +8

      Totally agree 👍 I hate ultra sharp pixels, I aim to get it as close to a CRT as possible, as originally intended... But if your into sharp pixels, that's your decision 👍 all the power to ya🤙

    • @TheOtherClips
      @TheOtherClips Před rokem +7

      @@TaranVH But no human ever saw that behind-the-shadow-mask version. The graphics of games designed for CRTs were designed to be viewed on CRTs with all the artifacts inherent in them. Super blocky pixel art is a fine aesthetic, but I disagree that it's a more authentic experience.

    • @exyzt9877
      @exyzt9877 Před rokem +4

      @@TaranVH But they were never intended to be seen that way. Sprites and models were made specifically under the idea that there were gaps that the CRT's blurriness would fill in. Ultra sharp pixels, whilst preferrable by some, are not at all the intended form even from the development standpoint. The crisp sprites, to the developers, were incomplete.

    • @Usabell
      @Usabell Před 11 měsíci +4

      I was going to say exactly this. I really don't like the super sharp square-shaped pixels that are so razor-sharp it pierces my eyes. That's why I play retro games on a CRT monitor, as it looks and feels much smoother, responsive, rounded and still not as blurry or pixelated as modern TVs, emulators or other solutions make it look like.

  • @justanotherlikeyou
    @justanotherlikeyou Před 2 lety +9

    I've seen this a lot lately, the idea that the "best image" for old console games like SNES is razor sharp pixel images. However, this isn't how we experienced these games when they came out. Practically everyone played these games on a CRT of some sort, and CRTs did not present these games with razor sharp pixel images like modern flat screens do today. There was some rounding and blurring of the image that caused the graphics to look, well, less pixelated. You see, back then it wasn't considered a good thing for games to look pixelated in appearance. It was better for them to look smooth and blended with some sharpness, but not too sharp to look pixelated. Nowadays, though, it seems that everyone into retro gaming thinks these games were made to be viewed in as sharp and pixelated a form as possible, but this wasn't generally possible or desirable back then. When I play an SNES game on an emulator on a flat screen with the game perfectly sharp and pixelated it's just not the same experience as it once was. I feel bad for kids growing up today who only know flat panels and pixelated art. They don't know what it was like back then, unless perhaps they watch some video or look at some game magazines from back then like EGM, Game Pro, Nintendo Power, etc.

    • @battleriteroyalevietnam8447
      @battleriteroyalevietnam8447 Před 4 měsíci

      Yep. The very reason why back in the day i prefer gba emulator than nogba. The blurry make it feel like blended image and more pleasant to watch.
      I think old crt each pixel light overlap each other so the dark line of dot become thinner. and bright line more visible.

  • @sgnir2
    @sgnir2 Před 4 lety +44

    2:42 casual burn in the top right corner.

  • @kekistanifreedomfighter4197
    @kekistanifreedomfighter4197 Před 4 lety +144

    This is why I love my old CRT

    • @BitcoinIsGoingToZero
      @BitcoinIsGoingToZero Před 4 lety +39

      Guaranteed the crt looks closer to bicubic than it does nearest neighbor. Crisp pixel art is a misunderstanding of the media.

    • @NiGHTSnoob
      @NiGHTSnoob Před 4 lety +15

      ​@@BitcoinIsGoingToZero Yeah but it still isn't blurry or fuzzy so much as it is slightly tapered. Like the pixels bleed over the blank scanlines and each other's phosphers slightly based on intensity, they don't just blur together. They aren't supposed to be super sharp, but they aren't supposed to be blurry either. Soft is probably the best word for it.
      Nearest neighbor with a filter like HLSL properly configured is about the closest you'll get.

    • @lemons2300
      @lemons2300 Před 4 lety +7

      @@BitcoinIsGoingToZero I wouldn't interpret it as a misunderstanding on the grand scale. Digitally, that's how pixel art is supposed to be (crisp). But an inferior analog connection to a non fixed pixel display consumer CRT TV with low TVL count forces developers to work around that and so the pixel art of certain games would be optimized for the displays of CRT TVs (and so technically I would call it more specifically as "old TV art", or simply just 8-bit/16-bit art (which can technically also embrace 3D graphics that can theoretically benefit from certain non-nearest neighbor upscaling methods), rather than pixel art).
      Pixel art can be taken advantage of by LCD displays, such as that of handheld consoles, which in my opinion looks excellent, and can even give the CRT look a run for its money (e.g. Game Boy Advance, Neo Geo Pocket, WonderSwan Color).
      When ppl thought of home consoles, they didn't think of pixel perfect in the way ppl would've with handhelds due to using non fixed pixel displays with analog inputs back in the good ol' days. Now it's a different case since we're in the era of fixed-pixel displays and LED/OLED for everything. The problem is that the displays we use today are HD and UHD with very high pixel count rather than low pixel count, which means it's not exactly ideal for an authentic pixel art in the way we remember it to be, considering that fixed pixels on LED displays these days are barely visible to the naked eye especially with 4K displays, which makes upscaling almost mandatory. Running emulations of early 2000s handheld games on an LED display on PC still looks excellent as long as it's in the native pixel count, though games will look very tiny on an HD screen and barely visible on a 4K/UHD screen, sadly.
      I would assume that aesthetically, the black unoccupied scanlines isn't exactly ideal especially for an era of higher TVL count on large CRT TVs, but they chose to continue developing games that way until the sixth console generation because it was the only way to imitate progressive video on an interlaced SDTV.
      Pixel art in its most faithful form is, at least imo, on a fixed pixel display without using any upscaling (that means no nearest neighbor) while the display's fixed pixels are large enough to seen with the naked eye.

    • @SoidSnake
      @SoidSnake Před 4 lety +19

      CRT looks better because it doesn't need to upscale at all. It can actually change the resolution. That is something that LCD's and OLEDS cannot do.

    • @souljastation5463
      @souljastation5463 Před 4 lety +14

      If you want to play tetrogames correctly on an LCD you need a scanline filter and a slight blur filter. Also, scanline..2s are different between PAL and NTSC screens, the NTSC ones are bigger.
      It's true that who babbles about "sharp pixels" gemerally has no idea about how retrogames should look. The slight bleeding of the phosphors and the almost halftone effect of the scanlines were taken into account by people that designed the sprites.
      Sharp pixels is NOT the correct way to look at retrogames. The best is of course a CRT with an RGB cable, my SNES never looked so good (especially because back in the days I used the RF cable).

  • @SupaCLUCK
    @SupaCLUCK Před 4 lety +27

    I remember seeing one of my teachers playing the SNES Tetris on a TV, and it bothered me so much that it was stretched and blurry lol

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger Před 4 lety +10

      You should have gone all aspect ratio police on your teacher. It will totally give you street cred at school parties.

    • @jockel9502
      @jockel9502 Před 4 lety +5

      @@Knightmessenger and then the Super Nintendo started clapping

  • @AcidGlow
    @AcidGlow Před 4 lety +67

    I'm still playing Castlevania 3 to this day! 😁

  • @JT5ingh
    @JT5ingh Před 4 lety +72

    Good call on the My Life in Gaming shoutout. Their RGB series is fantastic for anyone looking for the best picture with their retro systems, be it CRT or modern TVs

    • @Benjamin-ko1fg
      @Benjamin-ko1fg Před 4 lety +2

      Yes their content is great. Extremely helpful for retro gamers.

    • @drecksbongert4367
      @drecksbongert4367 Před 4 lety +1

      i still remember when i fell into the deep rabbit hole of purist retro gaming. its an expensive hobby and gets old fast when you arent nostalgic for most of the old games..

    • @ripetika1600
      @ripetika1600 Před 4 lety +2

      DrecksBongert You ever get a PVM?

    • @thomasandrews9355
      @thomasandrews9355 Před 4 lety +1

      RGB Masterrace! Got a framemeister on my tv for all games, it's so great.

    • @relo999
      @relo999 Před 4 lety +2

      @@ripetika1600 If you're in Europe using microcomputer (for the Amiga or MSX for example) screens with SCART input are just as good for normal use, and WAY cheaper and easier to use. PVM's and BVM's are overrated. Even a good Sony frame is great for normal use, and if you know what models you look for they can often be gotten for free. (again, if you live in europe, seeing as SCART is quite important)

  • @theloniousMac
    @theloniousMac Před 4 lety +252

    I thought the title said why do old “GAMERS” look so bad. I was about to go off on yer ass.

    • @borislipschitz2740
      @borislipschitz2740 Před 4 lety +34

      Hey, old gamers do look bad. At least some of them do. I know... i have a mirror :-D

    • @jamesroggy1546
      @jamesroggy1546 Před 4 lety +1

      Well if you still look good mate respect the rest of us.....................Durp

  • @chickencurry7642
    @chickencurry7642 Před 4 lety +68

    His hair looks like he was recently using his brain waves controller headset

  • @palpytine
    @palpytine Před 4 lety +33

    Well, yeah, that... plus you're talking about games that were written in an era of CRTs. To make them look right you don't want zero blur, you want the _right kind of blur_ that mimics screens from the era.

    • @SolomonsProxy
      @SolomonsProxy Před 4 lety +4

      If you want it to look worse for nostalgia that’s kinda weird.

    • @weberman173
      @weberman173 Před 4 lety +11

      @@SolomonsProxy ACTUALY. a LOT of Games back in the day(especialy NES and SNES era) where designed with so called Color Bleeding in mind, where do to the way a CRT draws the picture colors "cells"(its not actualy pixels on an CRT) directly next to each otehr blended together, correctly used this could give Sprites more colors then they actualy had, and make them look more detailed

    • @auturgicflosculator2183
      @auturgicflosculator2183 Před 3 lety +2

      @@weberman173 I really miss CRTs... at one point, Toshiba and Canon had partnered to develop SED displays which would have an electron source for each pixel, allowing them to have screens similar in thickness to LCD displays but with all the benefits of a CRT, but then Toshiba jumped ship for oLED and the dream died :(

  • @nekomasteryoutube3232
    @nekomasteryoutube3232 Před 4 lety +8

    Thats one thing thats always bugged me about playing older games on high resolution displays is that some displays and/or graphics processors just dont provide nearest neighbor/integer scalling which seems like it'd be a simple thing to add, just mutiply the size the pixels to larger square blocks and you can keep the "pixelated" look of old games when upscaling them.

  • @EDMS
    @EDMS Před 2 lety +11

    After 6 years of using After Effects, i finally know what's that button for... LOL

  • @NordekPL
    @NordekPL Před 4 lety +164

    I am a simple man. I see Taran on a thumbnail, I click.

  • @ilniubblog9232
    @ilniubblog9232 Před rokem +4

    I have been following the emulation scene from the very beginning, and over the years, thanks to increasingly advanced filters, we have now achieved really good results in the upscaling of old games. I still own old consoles with a crt tv, and trying side by side the same original games on CRT and their emulated counterpart on new screens, I can say that now the performance is better on the emulators, or at least I prefer it. As mentioned by others, in the 80s and 90s programmers created game graphics aware of the blurring that CRT screens applied to pixels. You did not see the naked and raw pixel on old TVs, there was no concept of pixel art that is in vogue today, on the contrary, I remember very well that the reviews of the time rewarded the graphics when it was not too pixelated, the visible grain was considered a defect . If you want to see an example of what can be achieved today with modern emulators, try watching this video (preferably at maximum quality and on a 4K screen). There are those who like to see pixels, but I prefer it like this: czcams.com/video/9ipx2T8Jczc/video.html&ab_channel=IlNiubblog

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu Před rokem +2

      This Neo, Gen Z, pseudo retro, love of Pixels drives me nuts. I absolutely hate pixels.
      Only people who didn't grow up with the games think that's what they look like

    • @voltz15
      @voltz15 Před rokem +2

      Yeah I honest hate this video because it represents a gen that doesn't get the concept and with my ignored postings in the past really goes to say something about it. Pixel art is nothing but fan-boi works by folks who don't know low res. It's a shame @#$% like this is dominating re-releases to classic games on the digital markets. It's such a great way to destroy a hobby.

  • @JohnHoggard_aka_DaddyHoggy
    @JohnHoggard_aka_DaddyHoggy Před 4 lety +21

    When I first got my Wii I still had a CRT and while my PS4 looks amazing on my new 4K TV, the poor Wii... oh dear...

    • @SiGeTVee
      @SiGeTVee Před 4 lety +1

      There are special HDMI adapters you can plug to your Wii to get a better image for more modern displays. That...or hunt down a second-hand Wii U. Getting component cables for it and switching to Progressive Scan might be the cheapest solution, however.
      Or you can watch My Life In Gaming for more info on the subject. You have a ton of options.

    • @Ashton000
      @Ashton000 Před 4 lety +1

      @@SiGeTVee Those Wii2HDMIs are awful, they just send composite through HDMI AFAIK. Component cables are the better choice if your TV has them.

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 Před 4 lety

      @@Ashton000 I have a Wii2HDMI adaptor and while it has some problems (occasional dithering) overall the picture is plenty sharp. It was totally worth the 8 bucks I paid.
      Component cables to a CRT are preferable of course, but if your monitor only has HDMI inputs like mine the adapter is plenty good.

    • @Ashton000
      @Ashton000 Před 4 lety +1

      @@flameshana9 I had one, and it ended up putting out red over black or something. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408366253611155456/714818722560475136/wii2hdmi_red.jpg

  • @H2CO3Szifon
    @H2CO3Szifon Před 4 lety +83

    FYI, the name "Lánczos" is pronounced "lantsosh". Source: I'm Hungarian.

    • @hetakusoda2977
      @hetakusoda2977 Před 4 lety +4

      Ah, I thought it was Polish, where cz is pronounced like that

    • @cscscscss
      @cscscscss Před 3 lety

      @@hetakusoda2977 same

    • @iFishFrogs
      @iFishFrogs Před 3 lety

      @@cscscscss ​ @HetakuSoda Polish 'sz' is pronounced same as Hungarian 's' and Hungarian 'sz' i pronounced like Polish 's'

    • @Tuberex
      @Tuberex Před 3 lety

      @@hetakusoda2977 Lanczos doesnt sound polish

    • @MatthiasW97
      @MatthiasW97 Před 2 lety +1

      Szia ! And greets from Germany

  • @Cinetyk
    @Cinetyk Před 4 lety +1

    Wow, great video explaining everything and also with a great presentation, editing, production values, the works. Taran nailed it. More Taran please.

  • @ivansotelo4622
    @ivansotelo4622 Před 4 lety +1

    Good to see more attention for this subject and the My life in gaming channel

  • @phoenixsmaug1568
    @phoenixsmaug1568 Před 4 lety +116

    The real world is not pixelated? Laughs in Planck Meter

    • @misimik
      @misimik Před 4 lety +3

      Space and time are not quantized, and you cannot prove to me otherwise!

    • @Speedswiper
      @Speedswiper Před 4 lety +8

      @@misimik Can you prove that it isn't? I'd say it's best to not make any claims at the moment.

    • @Aelfraed26
      @Aelfraed26 Před 4 lety +3

      Length, not meter

    • @uzferry5524
      @uzferry5524 Před 4 lety

      Just 150 iq things bruh

    • @campkira
      @campkira Před 4 lety

      just used tv that still had rgb since it would softer the picture...

  • @RickyMcSpanish
    @RickyMcSpanish Před 4 lety +33

    My Life In Gaming and RetroRGB are great for old consoles in new tv's these guys deserve way more credit give them a sub :) there content is great too

    • @jarodatkinson5306
      @jarodatkinson5306 Před 4 lety +1

      "Metal Jesus Rocks" does awesome work on this subject as well... More real world view rather than tech based.... Definitely worth a watch...

    • @bwood2572
      @bwood2572 Před 4 lety

      @@jarodatkinson5306 Metal Jesus gives a lot of bad info.

    • @H311hunt3r
      @H311hunt3r Před 4 lety +1

      Agreed. They're producing pretty high quality documentations and put quite a lot of research into them.

    • @jarodatkinson5306
      @jarodatkinson5306 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bwood2572 Yeah, that's kinda what I was saying... He's not a tech guy, just a gamer... He does get some things wrong for sure. I just appreciate his gamer oriented view on this subject...

    • @joshi_6887
      @joshi_6887 Před 3 lety +1

      jarod atkinson metal jesus doesn’t use great equipement at times and really doesn’t explain a lot about it, he mostly talks about color, design, functionality but not scaling, integers, lag and overall playing experience.. and he doesn’t really know how the things he buys perform most of the time, I’d rather avoid metal Jesus and reach over to retrorgb, MLiG and others.

  • @SiGeTVee
    @SiGeTVee Před 4 lety +3

    Thank you for mentioning the folks at My Life In Gaming! They know their thing when it comes to old retro hardware output and signals.

  • @theX24968Z
    @theX24968Z Před 4 lety +2

    you should have also mentioned how some older games relied on the older scanline bluriness to produce the image they wanted to see. There was an image i remember seeing a while back of an orc from an RPG that looked shite on any LCD regardless of how it was displayed, but on a CRT, because the color was displayed and blurred properly, looked really good.

    • @aminimal_
      @aminimal_ Před 2 lety

      Please share a link to that image if you have one. Would be interesting to see.

  • @Demokirby
    @Demokirby Před 4 lety +7

    Glad to see the shout out to my life in gaming, their channel is excellent.

  • @QuartzSTQ
    @QuartzSTQ Před 4 lety +3

    The other main problem here is most TVs also interpret 240p as 480i. This essentially means that the second 240p frame is interpreted as the first even field. Then that gets deinterlaced. Oh, and to suggest more series and channels that explain analog video, I suggest Technology Connections and his series about television in general, and Displaced Gamers and his many videos that go really in depth about the signal(s) that go to the TV, and more console-specific scaling problems.

  • @SooksVI
    @SooksVI Před 4 lety +2

    I would be interested in a video featuring Taran's graphics workflow as well as favorite plugins if one hasn't been made already.

  • @piskipa
    @piskipa Před rokem +4

    The funny part is that these games were not meant to look sharp at all, the fact that crts sort of blend the light between pixels was what made these sprites look more detailed; most sharp sprites just look.. weird, as they weren't designed with that aesthetic in mind (modern pixel art games on the other hand, are meant to look sharp).

    • @TV-ge3uj
      @TV-ge3uj Před 11 měsíci +2

      Just like the old statues weren't meant to be white. Imagine a Highlander-like Greek or Roman seeing this - "No guys, we painted them. It would have been crazy to leave them white."

    • @mineturte
      @mineturte Před 10 měsíci

      @@TV-ge3uj perfect analogy!!

  • @AlexYurian
    @AlexYurian Před 4 lety +28

    You can really tell who edited this with all the quality and details! Nice job man!

  • @SKIMER
    @SKIMER Před 4 lety +40

    It's pronounced "lantsosh", not "lantchos"
    This is the last name of one Hungarian mathematician.

  • @Aelfraed26
    @Aelfraed26 Před 4 lety +2

    5:36 I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THAT ADDON ALL MY LIFE

  • @CaptainXLAB
    @CaptainXLAB Před 4 lety +2

    2:41 "like my hair" lol me too, quarantining just like Taran :D

  • @crash11235
    @crash11235 Před 4 lety +7

    This video was REALLY impressive. Well-researched, written, delivered, and edited. I'll be keeping an eye out for any future Taran TQ's

  • @baitboy3191
    @baitboy3191 Před 4 lety +61

    LOL “classic console” picks up the wii

    • @muffinmonk
      @muffinmonk Před 4 lety +20

      It's 14 years old. It's old enough to go to high school lol

    • @franciscobutte
      @franciscobutte Před 4 lety +10

      The Wii is a non HD system. So he's right.

    • @FranciscoJV0
      @FranciscoJV0 Před 4 lety +11

      The Wii was a low resolution console even when it came out, so yeah it fits.

    • @Gamess0000
      @Gamess0000 Před 4 lety +3

      You guys are too vintage I guess

    • @rubberballoonlover5471
      @rubberballoonlover5471 Před 4 lety

      @@FranciscoJV0 I mean... it looks good on my Samsung Smart TV.

  • @lplumptree
    @lplumptree Před 4 lety +2

    Another reason not mentioned here is that most modern TVs misinterpret the 240p as 480i, so they try and deinterlace a progressive image. That’s why there are weird line gaps at 0:12

    • @voxeltek6624
      @voxeltek6624 Před 4 lety

      Yeah I see as I think 480i was more common

  • @normalaggain
    @normalaggain Před 3 lety

    I recently built a pi-arcade, was really disappointed at the blurry images, looking forward to poking around at the settings again, now I know what I'm looking for. Thanks a lot 👍

  • @DavidWonn
    @DavidWonn Před 4 lety +35

    Retro games always look fine to me because I play them on the CRTs they were designed to run on.
    As a bonus, I get no input lag.

    • @voxeltek6624
      @voxeltek6624 Před 4 lety +2

      You still get some. There is always going to be input lag, whether it be the slow transfer rate of copper cables, or the time it takes for the beam on the CRT to sweep back around, you always will get input lag. It may not be noticeable, and it may not affect anything, but it will always be there.

    • @epicstacker413
      @epicstacker413 Před 4 lety +11

      @@voxeltek6624 I'm guessing he meant "lowest possible" input lag. I see "no input lag" thrown around a lot and I always assume they actually mean "lowest possible" because a CRT will grant the lowest input lag experience. (Although some great alternatives have been made in recent years like the retrotink2x paired with a low lag monitor and what retroarch emulation is doing.)

  • @lucky1954
    @lucky1954 Před 4 lety +52

    Interesting learn new things every day love this channel dope tech

  • @GKSchattenjaeger
    @GKSchattenjaeger Před rokem

    Great video, very informative.
    Good thing you can make the upscaling happen as you wish before the tv comes into play, even without a PC. For some small extra cost.

  • @blazetownsend8785
    @blazetownsend8785 Před 4 lety

    Awesome video. Thanks for bringing light to this issue.

  • @betchaos7383
    @betchaos7383 Před 4 lety +11

    I love how any video about retro gaming just says "go watch my life in gaming"

    • @nerdyneedsalife8315
      @nerdyneedsalife8315 Před 4 lety +4

      They're stuff is full of content that isn't a slog to learn about. It's fun.

  • @CJayyy
    @CJayyy Před 4 lety +11

    Dope video!

  • @mimc8786
    @mimc8786 Před 4 lety +1

    This is a really well put together video.
    Took a topic I thought I understood, made me realise I didn't, left me feeling like I understood it.

    • @mimc8786
      @mimc8786 Před 4 lety

      Also bonus for using a pic of Dennis.
      More Dennis.
      Give him a channel.

  • @darak2
    @darak2 Před 2 lety +1

    Nearest neighbor is a form of 'zero order hold' filtering, which consists on just holding the received value (the color) unmodified until the next one arrives. There are many cases where zero order hold is visibly and even mathematically superior to very expensive and 'intelligent' filters, especially when those filters make assumptions (such as the continuity of the signal) which are not true in the source. Pixel art is just an example, Amiga music is another: when playing ancient MOD files using proper Paula emulation at the intended rate, ZOH produces a clearer sound and is closer to the original in comparison to the typical linear or cubic filters.

  • @Nicholas_Chris
    @Nicholas_Chris Před 4 lety +6

    And this is why I still have my old CRT, PlayStation 2 still looks amazing.

    • @cekan14
      @cekan14 Před 4 lety +1

      I bought a component cable for my PS2 and looks pretty good on modern screens, if you ever wanna try it

    • @powerslave0606
      @powerslave0606 Před 4 lety +2

      I bought a component cable and Gran Turismo 4 looks pretty good in 1080i on my 1080p screen. Resident Evil 4 also looks pretty good in 480p. You have to know the correct button combination to change the game's resolution right after the console's boot logo. Some of them include the options on settings.

    • @Nicholas_Chris
      @Nicholas_Chris Před 4 lety +4

      @@cekan14 Unfortunately my old Samsung LCD TV broke and can't be fixed. It had Component input for DVDs and Gaming consoles. My new Philips LED TV doesn't have component. The only way I can connect my PS2 or any old console is with RCA. The irony is that my CRT TV bought in 2007 works perfectly, and the LCD TV Bought in 2010 broke in 2017. Looks like CRTs are build to last.

    • @nerdyneedsalife8315
      @nerdyneedsalife8315 Před 4 lety +1

      @Andy Young Space is a big concern that many don't want to talk about. I'm crazy so in my one bedroom apartment I got a 32" Trinitron. Now the apartment is moderately sized and I have no kids so it's fine. The issue is not everyone will be in my situation. Some might have studios and have no room whatsoever. Some might have a house but the kids' stuff take up everything. That's why I'm glad scalers like RetroTink exist.

    • @Eichward_SKV
      @Eichward_SKV Před 3 lety

      My ps2 games looks great on a 4k LCD with the kaico hdmi cabel, same for my classic xbox and GameCube.

  • @buddyfoster6698
    @buddyfoster6698 Před 4 lety +3

    When I see a video with Taran I automatically like it. I’ve been watching Linus for so many years now and I feel like I watched Taran grown into a man from a gawky kid.

  • @No__one1
    @No__one1 Před 4 lety +1

    Usually I thought the blurry pixels looked higher quality than sharp pixels when I used Super Mario Advance 2 with the GameCube GBA adapter

  • @hhectorlector
    @hhectorlector Před 4 lety +1

    this is easily one of the best edited videos LMG has done. well done, Taran!!!!

  • @aublak7492
    @aublak7492 Před 4 lety +7

    Yeah, but retro games were never sharp. CRTs softened everything back then.

    • @neoasura
      @neoasura Před 4 lety +3

      CRT softening is different than hardware/software softening on modern LCD displays. Thats why games look great on CRTS, but look crappy with "scanlines" and bilinear filtering turned on.

    • @TravisERobertson
      @TravisERobertson Před 4 lety +5

      Yeah. This video makes me think that he's either only played these games on an emulator and thinks that's what the games looked like when they came out, or its just been too long since he's played on a CRT and forgotten.

    • @nerdyneedsalife8315
      @nerdyneedsalife8315 Před 4 lety +3

      Yeah softening on a CRT is unique. Genesis games on an emulator look razor sharp while CRTs round them out. Since I use RGB cables for the Genesis the picture is sharp, well-colored, and rounded. That's why N64 games look great on a CRT while not performing well on modern TVs, despite having tons of mods for that issue.

    • @lordeilluminati
      @lordeilluminati Před 4 lety +4

      Many people are very accostumed to the emulator look like the vídeo shows, problem is that old games were never intended to be THAT sharp either, they used a lot of tricks to make the sprites look more natural than pixelated like a emulator. The biggest offender is Sonic's Green Hill Zone. The waterfalls were intended to show in a transparency look, using oversharpened filters like emulators do make the game reveal its tricks, you can see clearly the "chess" pattern which you were never supposed to see. Even though i kinda got used to pixelation on emulation to minimise visual processing and lag, i hate how many articles and stuff tell "how the game was supposed to look" with modern techniques like this when it is not true at all.

    • @blahuhm6782
      @blahuhm6782 Před 4 lety

      She probably never heard of a CRT, or aspect ratio

  • @CoolJosh3k
    @CoolJosh3k Před 4 lety +5

    Loving your hair style, Taran!

  • @twellmanjr
    @twellmanjr Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the great info. It definitely explains quite a bit and shed some light on pixel resolution for newer tv's.

  • @RatikusuCh
    @RatikusuCh Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the clarification on scaling Taran. I love your lectures.

  • @VelocityEditsuwu
    @VelocityEditsuwu Před 4 lety +3

    “Like my hair”

  • @TDA1989
    @TDA1989 Před 4 lety +30

    i managed to catch this video 6 seconds after being posted, that's a record for me

  • @Unbaked89
    @Unbaked89 Před 4 lety

    Dang. This was very informative and very quick. Great video!

  • @mrsqueakyvoice97
    @mrsqueakyvoice97 Před 4 lety

    I remember taran from the old videos way back in the house, whole room watercooling, he's had such a glow up.

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider Před 4 lety +4

    Thank you for this information. I love my PlayStation 2 but it doesn’t look great on modern TV’s

    • @GenesHand
      @GenesHand Před 4 lety

      Have a look at GSM that lets you force different output resolutions, also depends on the quality of your video cables.

    • @redpheonix1000
      @redpheonix1000 Před 4 lety +1

      One thing you can try (if that's an option), is to just hook it up to an old CRT TV

    • @sgtcreasegrease
      @sgtcreasegrease Před 4 lety

      can get some good component cables for like $25

    • @Jon-lp6en
      @Jon-lp6en Před 4 lety

      Gollot yeah but it doesn’t change the internal rendering resolution

  • @dan_loup
    @dan_loup Před 4 lety +6

    There's another BIG problem with TVs as well that is the part where the upscaler is not programmed to deal with 240p.
    The "tv standard" is that you send 240 lines, 60 times per second, and those lines are either ODD or EVEN, as in you send line 1, 3, 5, 7 then on the next frame its line 2,4,6,8...
    But old consoles don't do that, they send just the same field over and over, while keeping the other field black, and this works fine on CRTs as you get twice as bright lines etc..
    So ideally, the televisions should detect when this is being done and either keep one of the fields as black lines or double the lines, but instead they try to force the picture to be 480i and you get awful artifacts like the combing you can see on this video.

    • @voxeltek6624
      @voxeltek6624 Před 4 lety

      Wait... I thought that what you just described as 240 PROGRESSIVE scan is actually interlaced

  • @Samcubegamer
    @Samcubegamer Před 4 lety +2

    I really love it when Taran gets to host videos like this. You just know buying that component cable probably came after him going crazy for several days.
    Those 'My Life In Gaming' videos make you question every cable you can possibly consider 😅

  • @iansrven3023
    @iansrven3023 Před 4 lety

    thank you, always learning new things, you taught me today :)

  • @moustafadjekrif559
    @moustafadjekrif559 Před 4 lety +5

    Great editing, great presentation!
    Maybe you need to be on more videos?.

  • @voxeltek6624
    @voxeltek6624 Před 4 lety +5

    Retroarch isn't an emulator, it's a front-end for a collection of emulator cores....

  • @Tridaak
    @Tridaak Před 4 lety

    Good video. Seen so many sites not make use of the CSS image rendering property when displaying pixelated sprites and other graphics, it quite annoys me sometimes. Didn't even think about how these hi-res screens affect retro gaming.

  • @jaysons8050
    @jaysons8050 Před 4 lety +2

    I hate sharp pixels on retro games displayed on modern monitors. The crt tvs from back in the day had natural scanlines that slightly smooth out the harsh pixel edges and stair step effects. When I play old school games on an emulator I always use filters to get it close to the old crt tvs as possible

  • @MassiveJetGrind
    @MassiveJetGrind Před 4 lety +4

    Hey, everyone; we've passed EVGA and taken 3rd place in Folding@home! Great work!

  • @AzureSymbiote
    @AzureSymbiote Před rokem +6

    The sharp pixels are not what you should want. Older games were designed for CRT TVs, which smoothed the pixels and made it look closer to bilinear or bicubic.

    • @tokenslol
      @tokenslol Před rokem

      unless the crt is super old or low quality it'll look blurry, but in a way that still lets you tell apart of the pixels. i did see a video about how there's a transparency effect created on a waterfall that only works on crts, but i think it was more about the pixels moving really fast.

    • @AzureSymbiote
      @AzureSymbiote Před rokem +2

      @@tokenslol I work with art, including pixel art. No, you are not supposed to see the raw pixels. They are supposed to be smoothed out by the TV. And some textures look hideous without a proper filter or a real CRT.

    • @tokenslol
      @tokenslol Před rokem

      @@AzureSymbiote I mean maybe I've been looking at the wrong footage but bilinear and bicubic just aren't close enough to what the CRTs do for you to want to play with them.

    • @AzureSymbiote
      @AzureSymbiote Před rokem +1

      @@tokenslol Indeed. But nothing else on a regular, modern television comes close. Some emulators have good filters, however.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu Před rokem +1

      @@tokenslol Scanline filters are the key. The difference in picture quality to raw pixels is insane. I don't understand people who like raw pixels.

  • @cortexauth4094
    @cortexauth4094 Před 4 lety

    5:45 Man of culture, also I was listening to OSTs od Chrono series and other Yasunori Mitsuda pieces before opening CZcams

  • @makyurax
    @makyurax Před 4 lety +1

    Good video; for the wii I casually discovered a thing, at least on samsung and lg 4k tv, the upscaling process works far better from the hdmi cable than component cable so if you use a cheap wii to hdmi adapter (i bought a 7€ one from amazon to not carry with me that component cable) you get a better image without spending a lot of money.

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak Před 4 lety +14

    I still thinking it's really pretty

  • @sotomonte_
    @sotomonte_ Před 4 lety +3

    This is like Taran's channel but with less complex stuff. Still love it!

    • @ESHIELDS
      @ESHIELDS Před 4 lety +1

      What's his channels name?

  • @Andrew_G4CH
    @Andrew_G4CH Před 4 lety +1

    MLiG is a fantastic channel!! Glad they got a shoutout for their RGB Master Class series.

  • @collinwilliamson2489
    @collinwilliamson2489 Před 4 lety

    Very glad to see support for My Life In Gaming. Great channel with criminally low subscriber count. Give them a watch!

  • @trolmaso
    @trolmaso Před 3 lety +4

    SNES: 60 FPS
    *27 years later*
    Nintendo Switch: *30 Take it or leave it*

  • @anonygsc6851
    @anonygsc6851 Před 4 lety +15

    90% of the comments: "ive never been this early in my life"

  • @startedtech
    @startedtech Před 4 lety +2

    They don't do nearest neighbor because composite doesn't allow you to do that. There's no resolution to go off, so it can't possibly do nearest neighbor scaling. It is literally impossible.
    Also, since it's not processed pixel-by-pixel unlike digital signals, and due to the inherent noise of composite, even if you could do nearest neighbor it wouldn't look any better than standard bilinear filtering on an LCD.

  • @shrededpudding5921
    @shrededpudding5921 Před 4 lety

    its awesome to see taran hosting a video again. it brings me back tp a simpler time

  • @hyakin7818
    @hyakin7818 Před rokem +3

    or just use an crt how it's meant to be played

    • @gamecubeplayer
      @gamecubeplayer Před rokem

      15khz sdtv crt to be specific

    • @lilg8017
      @lilg8017 Před rokem

      a consideration of impracticality

    • @ag4640
      @ag4640 Před rokem

      "just [do something]" is when the solution proposed is simpler than the one that is being discussed

    • @gamecubeplayer
      @gamecubeplayer Před rokem

      @@ag4640 if you can find a cheap 15khz sdtv crt then it's better than a cheap upscaler

    • @ag4640
      @ag4640 Před rokem

      @@gamecubeplayer I guess so, but in my case the problem is finding space for it. In my living room there's already a TV and in my desktop 2 monitors. And even though I love old games, many people like me don't want to look funny playing on those antiques. I rather buy a GOOD upscaler or even use emulators, they have pretty neat upscaling options.

  • @DEXEuphoria
    @DEXEuphoria Před 4 lety +4

    God, I love this guy

  • @Anima420
    @Anima420 Před 4 lety +2

    5:51 Their screwdrivers have a really nice personality

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel

    I love how the noise when it expands to fill all the pixels to make 4:3 is happy then it goes all distorted when it stretches to 16:9 lmao.

  • @DigitalHaze65536
    @DigitalHaze65536 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm old enough to remember playing those games on CRT when they were new. I actually hate the "perfect pixel" look because it does NOT look like the way graphics used to look. Those old TVs and consoles used interlaced graphics, so the look was more like bi linear than pixel perfect. Pixel perfect just makes the edges look way too jagged compared to the other methods. If jaggies were so desirable anti-aliasing wouldn't be used. The hope back in those days was to get rid of jaggies, not make them more apparent!

  • @CoNfUzLeDaNdLoSt
    @CoNfUzLeDaNdLoSt Před 4 lety +6

    “sness” oh hell no

  • @chalor182
    @chalor182 Před 4 lety

    I really enjoy Taran in the host role. Informative and pleasant to listen to. Love when LMG rolls out the back bunch it's always great content.

  • @thomasdarby6084
    @thomasdarby6084 Před 3 lety +1

    Well, I'm old enough that a "retro" game for me is Pong on a black-and-white, coin-operated table. That being said, I've kept many of my old consoles including an Atari 2600, NES, SNES, and even a Genesis happily pumping out those pixels without extra adapters by simply keeping my old, 2006-model Sony Trinitron CRT TV around just for the purpose. It's 21-inch screen was plenty big for the time and for the graphics that the games offered. It keeps my experience real. No upscaling, no worry about added hardware, no frustration. Meanwhile, my PS4 Pro is hooked up to my 48" 4K-Ultra TV.

  • @discreet_boson
    @discreet_boson Před 4 lety +4

    The last time I was this early, Linus looked like a 15 year old

  • @discreet_boson
    @discreet_boson Před 4 lety +3

    Me watching in 144p be like: wow, I can see a difference

  • @Curtofthehorde94
    @Curtofthehorde94 Před 4 lety

    When does using more than Cat 5e cable matter in regards to tasks? Does is matter in gaming, streaming, or large file transfers on home machines?

  • @classydays43
    @classydays43 Před 4 lety

    And then you have the issue where each pixel on a lower res output just spreads each input pixel across several on the screen, then adopts some aliasing to make it look like the image is better somehow.