Test driving the new electric Scania in Norway snow
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- čas přidán 28. 01. 2023
- I had the chance to drive the new Scania electric truck out in Norway on the snowy roads. This video is how I felt about the truck as a driver, diesel lover and a nature lover.
Great analysis Jemma, you have a sensible view of the topic, love the look of terror when you started to lose the back end😄
Hahah it’s never nice when it slides 😂
Very interesting video thanks.
Didn’t notice. You looked great as always. Stay safe. Mick.
Awesome Video. So this is the future. Thanks.
nice to see u sorted panda eyes out for the test drive keepum coming Jem carnival looks fun...
Great video Jemma
Im not against reducing emmisions. However If you take into account what it takes to build the batteries alone, its more than counter productive. Combustion engines are so efficient these days, it costs more in pollution to produce batteries than drill for oil.
This is what people dont get, not to mention the fact the powers that be are leading everyone down a path to a dead end, Hydrogen is coming, JCB have started production of their engine for their machines and gas networks are already planning for infrastructure
Spot on.
I don't know whether it would be the same for trucks, but an electric car can be as much as twice the weight of the same ICE car. This puts additional wear onto both the roads and the vehicles tyres. Heavier vehicles must cause more damage to the road surface, and the extra wear on the tyres will produce extra rubber particles to be produced. Both are extra costs, more frequent road repairs and more frequent tyre replacements. The extra brake dust produced by a heaver vehicle could be at least partially offset by regenerative breaking so that at least may not be as bad.
This is not true! It is a myth spread by conservative people who like their old combustion engines. (I am an electrical engineer with university degrees and a keen interest in climate science since fifteen years. I know. Period.)
Jemma never worry of your looks 👌 and your info and voice are great 👍 keep up your passion 👏
What are you talking about you look gorgeous. Great vlog.
Very informative video and well presented...... and you don't need makeup! Hope you enjoyed your time at Scania and they invite you back soon...... maybe Volvo to!
Very good video jem at least you were smiling in most of the video jem
Interesting video Jemma 😊
Interesting video. Thanks.👍
very interesting thanks
Hi Jemma great video keep up the good work.I will be getting truck and driver stay safe.🤩
Thank you🤗
Great video Jemma. I'm a mobile mechanic with the same issues as you regarding working in the middle of nowhere down in Cornwall most of the time. At the moment I don't think the battery life for a heavily loaded van would be enough but keen to see how this gets developed
Thank you. In London they have a £7,500 scrapage scheme for vans if you replace with electric. Shame it’s not all over the country. It would have been worth looking in to at least
@@jemmawarren27 I guess gradually these schemes will reach further out out into the country. I think hydrogen power may be more of a useful alternative, seems JCB are coming on leaps and bounds with that.
Many thanks Jemma, that is very interesting. Take care. I agree there is a long way to go before this can become the norm.
Absolutely!
A very good Monday afternoon to you all from Wellington Somerset
Great vlog again. Would've thought the mechanics could put some paint on that wheel while it was off any trailer. Never mind x
Brilliant video Jemma😊😊
Thank you!! 😁
I'm still going to put it up,excuse my face .......priceless! what a great down to earth vĺog! Totally take on board what our say ɓut it ain't a V8
Well I know a lot of young people watch and I would want them to do and feel the same. I spent too long in my youth worrying about how I looked. I tracking we’ve still got a bit of time with the V8s
I think I prefer Hydrogen Powered if we need to choose. Easier to install filling points with current infrastructure.
cool video too :)
You can become the Itchy Boots of trucking!
I'm sure this was a fun and very interesting trip for you. Usually batteries doesn't like the cold, so I'm curious how long the batteries in these electric trucks will last. I assume it was pretty cold in Norway, so that country is a perfect location to test the durability of the battery. I agree with you that it's great these electric vehicles are super quiet, but it's also scary a bit. Just like you said, somebody can easily step in front of the truck, simply because he/she didn't hear the engine noise. It's indeed a good thing the truck looks exactly like a diesel version on the outside, therefore hopefully drivers will accept them easier in the future. Yes charging is a challenge at the moment and currently an electric vehicle wouldn't be the most practical for the job you do daily. Great video again Jemma, it's good to see you really enjoyed the trip and I must add that the snow covered winter wonderland is magnificent. 😀
Yes they seemed to cope well the electric truck seemed to go all day on one charge even if it was just being test driven in the local area
Great video Jemma. Well done. I agree there should be some noise for the pedestrian to here. X
Totally agree!
Not had the chance to watch full video. I deliver fuel and it’s manic at the moment. I saw your 3 minutes left on your driving lol x
That's one point I would make to all manufacturers is there to quite and like you said people can't hear them making the dangerous at the moment
Good to see a video from the users view point. Given the mixed views on EV cars perhaps trucks will overtake cars, a lot depends on initial cost and maintenance. Thanks Jemma, much appreciated.
Thank you. Yes time will tell I guess ☺️
@@jemmawarren27 Ohio
Love what your doing and what these companies are trying to do but all depends on the initial cost of the lorry plus how long the warranty is and what it covers like I would imagine the batteries are mega expensive so I do think it's a way way off yet personally but let's see🙂👍
Looks like you had a great time Jemma ! We live next to a large hospital, and they've got lots of electric vehicles running
round the area. They're a menace, you don't hear them creeping up behind you, hate the things ! With regards to electric HGV's,
lack of charging points and battery running time will cause problems, give me a large, loud diesel anyday !
Good vid 👍
Thanks!
If 'they' want trucks to convert to electric they're going to have to give you proper places to park (with charging points) instead of leaving you hunting for laybys and industrial estates. I think you're right, it'll start with smaller trucks doing more local work (back at their yard/depot every night) and as range increases and infrastructure grows we'll start seeing long-haul electric trucks too. 👍👍
Great video Jemma nice to see you have a great experience how did you get on sat on the left side 👍
Hi it’s Leg less Norm you are so right about not hearing a car or Truck moving I had just got two plastic legs and I didn’t hear a car start and it hit me the people were very careing
Nicely held on the slide. Did they admit to much range difference between winter and summer running with batteries being affected by temperature.
Surely this is the future I just wonder if they will have the power up hills etc and then there's the charging
as usual Jemma brilliant video, tbh it will be the charging or lack thereof that will dictate the take up of electric hgvs, not just in the UK but Europe and elsewhere
The infrastructure is being created at the depots of the people who buy the trucks☺️
Love them or hate them they are the future. Once the infastructure and the range and charging times are improved there won't be much of a problem. Although I think hydrogen would be a better replacement.
Great Video you look Gorgeous anyway 💯❤️👌XX
Brilliant video as always Jemma I'm a diesel lover however I'm impressed with what Scania has done, however my concerns echo your own as in how will someone know a truck is coming if it is silent?
Indeed I think there needs to be some sort of sound ☺️
10% sales by 2025 that’s pretty soon 😳
Yes they are really pushing for it. I feel like I need to learn a bit more about it all
Hydrogen is the future especially for heavy transport, JCB already know this & now have fully functioning hydrogen equipment. For you Jemma you can keep your V8 sound to !
Hi Jemma how long does the batteries last init I bet it's weird to drive with no sound from a truck
Interesting video Jemma but definitely missing your filming in the usual V8 😂
Definately agree 100% on the engines being so quiet and always said with the hybrid cars so dangerous for people not hearing them and stepping out in front of or behind them. Hopefullyy get a video back in the sunny uk soon and the make-up was looking great 😉🤣
Yes my biggest fear with them
Aren't Scania getting involved in hydrogen electric fuel cell vehicles? I don't really understand how all this works but it seems like some kind of solution to having electric vehicles that have the range and don't require a long time to recharge and don't need a lot of heavy batteries using rare earth metals to make them.
Love the videos, as a retired driver it's nice to see the job put in a good light and you demonstrating just how skilful and responsible that good lorry drivers, like you. are.
Agree with your closing comments. Plug-in electrics like this will never be able to replicate the flexibility and cost-effectiveness of diesel for top weight long haul work. That can only be achieved through the Hydrogen Fuel Cell.
I wonder in those temperatures how the batteries fair? Don't work well in the cold. As you say short haul as nowhere in the UK has enough charging points. Don't apologise for the makeup situation, didn't even notice tbh, to busy on the content. At least you had fun in the snow, well jealous 🙂
Very much enjoy your videos, however, has anyone thought if the power grid will be capable of producing enough electricity to charge these vehicles as well as power household needs. No one has considered all the pollution that is being created in mining the lithium, plus how do you dispose of these batteries when they are no longer active. Cold weather is very detremental to these batteries, and cuts their travel distances in half.
There's a recent video on CZcams showing an electric truck being destroyed by fire. Horrendous fire with horizontal ferocious flames, which I believe are a tell tale of a battery fire.
I certainly wouldn't want to be driving on top of one!
There are also horror stories of atrocious battery replacement costs for cars.
I'd hate to think of the equivalent cost of a truck battery.
I think ICE vehicles will be with us a long time yet
You are really good at your speeches and you are very beautiful lady don’t worry about the small things
I’ve always been against EV/Hybrid but after getting a Ford Galaxy hybrid I’m slowly coming round to them.
Interesting to hear. I was surprised how well the truck went to be honest
@@jemmawarren27 once we have charge times to rival refuel times I think it will work but until then hybrid is the closest I will get.
HYBRIDS ARE ESSENTIAL EVEN IF ONLY FOR EMERGENCY CHARGING. If you power out in the wild, the rescue vehicle will still charge or tow. Better a compact charger engine.
Great insight on electric trucking and your thoughts about the future 👌🏼hydrogen is probably a better solution to long journey times and remote locations. But not sure how dangerous storing high pressure explosive gas where the fuel tanks usually go. 🤔
I think that is the biggest issue with hydrogen. You wouldn’t want to be carrying anything flammable
@@jemmawarren27 I feel that would be dangerous and even batteries are too sometimes. Maybe ammonia would be safer or just electrical overhead wires like trains. Being CO2 neutral is almost impossible in this modern world 🌍
Definitely going to be an issue for the V8 lovers without that V8 sound. Like you though, I agree that electric is the way forward but there's three main issues. Firstly, the range. No good at all for those long hauls across the UK unless you have fast chargers at either end. 2nd is the costs for replacement batteries although the cost of this might be offset by the lower costs on engine maintenance. 3rd is the electricity infrastructure, we don't have what we need for cars let alone trucks too, and that's not just the charging points but also the extra cabling to carry all of the extra current needed. Could you imagine one day, a truck stop full of trucks packed in tight like a tin of sardines? They'd be no room to fit all of those charging points and as you're aware, many places can't offer even the basic of facilities for truckers as it is. I think the truth is that we still have a very long way to go but only a short amount of time. 2030 until the last diesel engine rolls off the production line? Not long. Great vid BTW 🙂
They think it will be only 50% by 2030 as like you say it won’t be suitable for every type of work but to be honest there are so many large companies now that it could be possible for as they have depots all over. I think as they are replacing cables they are putting in higher capacity as I understand, ready for the extra power needed. I think it’s going to be really interesting as like you say…. It’s a big task
@Jemma Warren yeah I was reminded when I saw your post about a school I used to work in that was built around the 1950s. It was fitted with computers all over the place, fax machines, printers and photocopiers etc. During periods of heavy use, the fluorescent lights in the staff room used to flicker because of the excessive drain on the electricity feed into the school. It just wasn't designed for that sort of load. I can see things here in the UK will get like that. I'm not sure it is possible for the larger companies right now tbh. I worked for a while at Hermes in Rugby, massive site full of trucks, trailers and of course all of the warehousing too. But I can't imagine how they'd implement, or even find the space to charge 50/60+ tractor units. Change has to happen, but I think we're still a long way off from being able to meet those targets.
I guess it will be the same as plugging in fridges when parked at the depots with designated parking. There is a new power station being built in Somerset that should be finished by around 2030 so that should help massively with the power I guess. I definitely think supermarkets could do it with charging at the depots and the stores
Hi Jemma, absolutely great video about electric trucks, they are more for urban use in cities, and trunking, like those on gas, who need to keep recharged, they don't store energy well, is there a way electric, gas and diesel can work in the future, I can't see us getting many fresh oranges from Spain with electric power, you and you're fellow drivers are our countries backbone, I and the country need you, not politicians who haven't got a clue, I support a mixed operation, diesel do your kind of operation and the gas and electric do the urban work, what do you think, I'm just an old spanner monkey, you are our future. ❤
I do 800 to 1000 kms a day and stay out about 2 weeks at a time unfortunately electric hasn't got the range yet or the ability to recharge overnight
I think you are correct when you say they won't be suitable for all roles.If your truck is doing work where you need to use PTO'S etc I can't see how they would be able to have enough battery power to do the job unless farmers and the like have some way of letting you plug in to an external power source.Ha!
I see Hydrogen as our best way forward for trucks that really have to work hard but it's going to take the major oil companies to start investing in this fuel before it becomes mainstream.We will see.
I think we are a long way off on the farm work stuff but the supermarkets and big companies that have depots and shops all over could definitely do it
Interesting that it only takes 90 minutes to charge. I think the main issue is that we're just replacing one energy source with another, and neither are sustainable long term.
Yes you are probably right but i guess any fuel will run out one day. Thankfully not in our lifetimes
Hi Gemma I hope you are ok I miss your videos have you stop?
They have many of these in China already. So, I was able to look into the future - how the world will look 10-20 years from now when this technology finally reaches Europe. Here are my observations: good for driving on the flat surfaces, but they really struggle on the hills. Europe is mostly flat, so I think no problem here.
The Quality of this Video was Poor so I don't know if EV Trucks are Viable.
Your looking stunning you don’t need makeup
There's nothing wrong with your face, you're beautiful make up and all 😁☺😘😘
Diesel, the only way
Massive Milk Truck.
Great video girl, I’m with you about the future but fear that the infrastructure is nowhere near yet. My guess is that hydrogen is the real future, or even tiny nuclear power packs eventually. You still sound a little stilted on the voiceovers but you’ll get there, it’s only practice. Trucker Jay was the same originally and now he’s more relaxed. Keep up the good work!
Well done Gemma No probs with the make up. In my opinion Electric Vehicles is not the future it's a waste of resources continuing with their development. Electricity still has to be generated it's not a green energy source. If all vehicles were Electric We couldn't Generate enough power to cope. Lithium ion Batteries are far from Environment friendly. Thumb's up number 386 that's me.
Hi, what advice can you give for woman taking her HGV test
Exactly the same as I would say to a man. Work hard. Ask if you don’t know something. There is no shame in getting out and having a look. It’s better than hitting something. Watch what others do, it’s the best way to learn easier methods. Get plenty of sleep, there is nothing worse than driving tired and have fun
@@jemmawarren27 thank you for the advice. I hope I get on ok!
:)
Old White Guy here.
I'm all for EV's,(cars) but I don't get the mad rush to plug ins trucks?
Why not a Hybrid Truck?
A small 160 HP Diesel 440V generator, hooked to these batteries,
and motors.(much like your carnival trams)
I've seen trucks with an extra steering axel.
Use one of those for any added weight.
Drive on batteries untill they're low, and the then the Gen kicks on, and builds them back up on the fly. Just like every Prius in the World.
No one needs the anxiety of running out of juice,
when there's great hybrid systems around.
The end cracked me up a bit. All that positivity throughout the video, and then the harsh reality bites. And its all true.
We are at the horse drawn cart stage of electrification, we are nowhere near in terms of technology or infrastructure. What happens when 300 trucks pull into the services to charge for 90 minutes? Totally unfeasable.
And then there is the issue of that nasty lithium, mining it, and then storing it at end of life. Not to mention the dangers it poses when they get damaged in an accident.
Think you are right, more suited to local work, but then the problem: what small company is going to spend twice the amount on an electric truck when they could get a diesel one cheaper?
It will happen slowly over time and maybe not in all sectors. But there are some many huge companies with depots all over who could easily do it if they put charging points in depots and shops
interesting thoughts. unless the infrastructure in uk is sorted it will never properly happen. uk will be behind as usual.
Yes electric trucks is a nice idea. However it's only suitable for local town delivers due to range. It's a bit like Tesla cars. Great stuff till you run out of juice attempting motorway travel. Think I stick to me gas guzzling rover 75 V6 quadcam. One life enjoy the horsepower . Stuff Tesla.
I like the analysis you make about the truck and e trucks in general.
Its not up to you. You dont get a vote. The decision has already been
made to go electric & you wernt consulted. The future is NOW. Those
drivers that hate electric and refuse to switch will have to find a new
career. Petro engines are destined for the scrapheap. A lot of petro
trucks WILL be converted. There are companies out there who sell
conversion kits for cars & as soon as the demand presents itself they
will provide kits for trucks & busses too.
Welcome to Tomorrow.
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Agreed! If you can’t change it…. Embrace it
I can't see a transport company being happy with its drivers sitting around for 90 mins each charge, if the wheels ain't turning the truck ain't earning..
What if you can't get on a charging point straight away as well, that's more waiting around on top of the 90 mins ??? 😳
Cost, range and charging times are prohibitive and will stay that way until we are forced to use electric vehicles alone
U dont need make up your cute without make up
All the points made by others are valid, but to me the biggest issue with electric vehicles is the base product for the batteries...Lithium, it's such a filthy wasteful process and is causing massive pollution in the areas it's mined, and once the batteries are knackered the Lithium cannot be recycled... Best place for electric vehicles is in city centres where there are not enough tress to offset the carbon emissions of internal combustion engines.
Not to mention where the lithium actually comes from and is “gathered”.
4:31 Give up the make up, it would save a lot, and cut wasteful testing.
Also cut your worry level.
You don’t have to impress anyone.
Being a driver is more then enough for anyone red blooded.
Electric powered emergency vehicles for example would not be a viable option and I know that’s already being looked at, I have no problems with battery vehicles on the road as this is one potential option to replace diesel and petrol fuelled vehicles. For heavy goods driving I don’t think electric is viable but would be ok for short range routes and construction industry plant.
If you have seen any articles on JCB they are actively working on hydrogen powered engines which I believe are now in production and have been working with small trucks and vans to see how this new tech performs ( apparently quite well).
I see no reason why hydrogen is not a viable option for transport and even domestic use and it’s up to the government to push this clean burn option forward ( I bet they won’t!). As for what we have now I do agree the dirtiest vehicles that are blasting out heavy smoke should be taken off the road and keep what we have well maintained on the road for as long as is possible!
I have no doubt over next few years the used vehicle market will go crazy around 2030 with people looking for quality used diesels and petrol vehicles!
Sorry it’s a bit long…..maybe I should have done a video lol
Electric trucks won't work. They just don't have the power over the longer period of time needed.
I just dont think all these electric powered things are as clean as they make out, producing them cant be clean then there is having to generate electric to power them! I think electric vehicles have a future as city hoppers but not long distance.
the main problem is the charging network for cars is rubbish at the moment to charge a truck i think is a big negative point and then the time to charge as well , weve all been at the fuel islands waiting in turn to fuel what are the ques going to be like waiting to charge , for the moment i think electric trucks are for close to depot work and not the usual trunking work until a better infrastructure is made, in a way im glad that my time with trucks is coming to a end been through euro 0 to euro 6 best leave leave the new generation trucks to the new breed of mechanics who wear big rubber gloves and rubber wellies . and by the way makeup wasnt that bad should see the missus after a night out bloody cyclops
😅😅 I hope she doesn’t read that! Probably something my better half would say about me 🤣 I can see where you a coming from though with the comment on the trucks and I think it will start with the bigger companies who can afford it
no worry about the makeup . you look good with it or without it,,, electric car owner are moaning about them now wishing they never bought them electric truck wont work at all
maybe electric trucks will work for city work other wise no way it will be hydrogen that carry's on from diesel, i couldn't think of anything worse driving a truck that doesn't sound like one. besides the environmental damage caused by the manufacture and disposal of just the batteries is the biggest con going. save the loud pipes!!
The Government won’t catch up with the PowerPoints till after 2030 And I’m sure it will be costly to buy these electric Vehicles. Also you will lose time during the day with having to power the trucks. Worse will be an accident and electric trucks stuck in heavy traffic. M 25 standstill. Unless they put fast charging on there as well. Didn’t notice the make up.
There are a lot of jobs where there is less driving and more other work that would be suitable for electric trucks
It will never work 💯
I don't think electric vehicles are the answer. The environmental and human damage is horrific. Hydrogen power is the way forward and you can keep your V8. Refueling through existing modified filling stations will be easy and quick.
Nice video. I have been following Volta Trucks (www.youtube.com/@VoltaTrucks) for a while now, their low, central driving position is a great idea especially as they are focused on the town/city delivery, so different to what you do.
Thank you I’ll have to give them a watch
After u take in the carbon used 2, make the truck and batteries, and it will take around 15 to 25 years b4 its carbon neutral