Dr K talks to a PROUD Trump Supporter with David Pakman
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You can't fight fire with water when they are using napalm. Most of us Gen Xers had to raise ourselves so we set our own rules. I could help you understand our Generation, you still don't really get it. We did NOT have an EASY LIFE in the 80s at all.. BTW fellow Texan here!
If you wanted to have an unbiased discussion to understand the other side, why did you pull a pair of dumbass children from the street obsessed with tribal politics? If anything this misrepresents people's views
ADVICE FOR DR K: just at the start of the interview and its a little disorienting to hear notification sounds for discord as i only have them on for PM's. please turn of all notification sounds when doing a stream. thanks.
What is Jimmy’s CZcams channel called?
I feel like David was seeing him as a project but Dr K. was seeing him as a person
David Egotripman
The big problem with ppl on politics they always see the other side as "something to be fixed"
Yeah, I think that David has that problem a lot. He has an interesting way of thinking about things, but seemingly struggles with empathising with people he disagrees with. Even people with harmful or hateful beliefs deserve the simple respect of being treated like a human being. They don't choose their beliefs any more than anyone else.
That's a lot of these leftie commentator types. A lot of them are far worse than the people they shit on.
@@knightofjustice5475 citation needed. in all serousness though, i have met ton's of nice and kind people who happen to be conservative, and absolutely despicable people who happen to be conservative. like wise for liberals, and likewise for progressives. trying to moralize politics, doesn't really work, aside from making you look like a hack and a shill.
I thought it was weird when david opened Jimmys intro with his entire crime history. love how dr.k lowkey calls him out on it to start the interview.
Yeah, David fakes compassion for this guy
This is David 'Dpak' Pakman slander...
David is a political grifter, there are many like him. On both sides.
@Zurg How is he a grifter?
@jmalcolmg123 I was definitely more than disappointed in Pakman on his stance over Bolivia, but I'm wary about throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. I certainly haven't seen too much wrong with his stance on domestic issues
While he has gone down in my estimation due to Bolivia, one issue in and of itself isnt enough for me to write him off just yet
All things aside, this guy could 100% be a voice actor.
for real
In roger rabbit 2
Maga version of Gilbert Gottfried
Find me some work
@@JimmyfromPhilly1you can work these balls into your mouth
The secret therapy here is in getting David Parkman to empathize with someone he disagrees with.
Exactly
Hahahahaha that is right, David is one of the most frustrating SOB I have ever seen
Yeah, the guy's a weenie.
I was thinking that too. It was probably very informative for Pakman, who probably hasn’t met a lot of guys like this in his life. Or it seems that way at least.
@@LeanFutureI get that on a personal level. Definitely haven't genuinely gone deep with very many people.
Dr K impresses the heck out of me here. He's actually listening and questioning and prodding both both parties, while managing to do it all respectfully and firmly. It's a lost art on youtube and in media.
He's pretty disconnected from it tbh; Jimmy focuses a lot on trans and gay people, which is easy for him to shrug off as he is neither (at least publicly, which still makes it easier even then).
For my part though, I would not sit idly by and be made a joke by a balding old man with lungs like an old paper bag. It isn't the job of minorities to put up with that, so it's good these two are the ones dealing with it instead.
@@reaganeidemiller7132 You're thinking about it too combatively. In my opinion there is no "job of minorities", we just made that idea up, as there is also no "job of the majority", because everybody is a minority or majority based on the set of characteristics you define. For example, a "balding old man with lungs like an old paper bag" from Philly as you wrote makes him a minority compared to the entire US if your criteria are those characteristics.
The solution then is to approach people as individuals, challenge their ideas with other ones respectfully, and both give and take suggestions for everyone to consider.
@@Acoto it isn't our job to deal with somebody that thinks of us as a joke; we don't owe him that kind of respect.
@@reaganeidemiller7132 I agree that respect is earned. However, do you believe he owes you any kind of respect? I'd argue that no one owes another respect, it can only be given freely.
If you don't have to respect him and he doesn't have to respect you, the only option is conflict unless someone opens dialogue with the intention of sharing and debating ideas. So what outcome do you want, to try to understand and be understood, or to fight?
@@Acoto He doesn't respect my existence, I don't respect his actions. I have every right to demand he respect my existence.
There are different levels of respect; I don't respect choices of his, he doesn't respect who I innately am.
No one thought this was staged, David.
He wished it was so he projected. Because Jimmy turned out to be a wise but whimsical person, and David Pakman just made himself look like an ass.
@@OmegaF77 David's introduction was a shit show and I am willing to bet he regrets it. By the end of the show it seemed as though they were two people from vastly different walks of life able to just have a talk. But Jimmy comes across as wise and whimsical because he was able to have a conversation with someone that he did not see as an adversary and that person brought the best out of him through extremely careful and paced dialogue. It also seems like he does not necessarily offer the best of himself to those he sees as adversaries with making fun of gay and trans and calling people the n-word as he openly admitted. Feels like both have room to grow and that over time both have grown from their now years old relationship. With that said, the fact that you could watch this in it's entirety and pick one person to be a good guy and one to be a bad guy speaks more about you and how you view everything. David only arranged this conversation because it seemed like it could be positive for everyone involved and maybe shed some light for both sides on why people feel the need to chose a side and stick with it even when it is imperfect. But hey, I'm just a dude on the internet that hopes everyone will put away the swords one day and realize that no matter how you feel politically we are all just people trying to get by.
I think a lot of people think this is staged. I'm not a therapist so maybe I don't realize it happens a lot but how often do mental health and personality traits boil down to one specific root cause. Things aren't like the movie or TV shows where you can point to one specific thing for cause and effect. These types of things can be very nuanced and build on top of each other.
I could be wrong about Jimmy but it seems like a lot of how he acts can be attributed to a very direct, precise, past life event. I don't believe, for most people, it's that simple. So when things line up almost perfectly it seems suspicious.
Dude, the viewership of David's show must probably consist more of type of people that would think this is staged, u gotta understand that Dr K's show attracts a certain audience and David's a different one, so reserve judgement for him for saying this if you will. He surely had a strong reason to do so.
Never watched David's show, but people probably thought it was fake to get views or some shit on his show
I love the cohesion at 55:22 with Jimmy blowing smoke into the top right and Dr. K starting to cough
Lmao
empathy coughing is funny af
Haha that was even better than I expected 😂
i love that david said maybe 15 words and spent the rest of the time looking extremely worried
It's kind of shocking that he manages to come off worse than the Trump guy. He comes off like a slick, cruel, dishonest, propagandist. Like he's just sitting there huffing his own farts about how superior he is for not having any opinions outside a political dogma.
Every time I see him have a conversation with someone he doesn't agree with he is condescending and belittling the entire time. It's hard to watch.
He looks like a smug asshole, chewing that pen and smiling like that while is name is flashing in the background
@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat this. It's a fantastic example of how political ideologies are only as bad as people make them be. I've meet conservatives, liberals, communists, and free-market libertarians alike, and I've met amazing people and a**holes on all sides.
The best ideology is always to keep an open mind to understand others and find common ground with people.
I think he maybe realized how he came off in the beginning and when he said that the interview wasn’t stages. Either that or he is actually learning about Jimmy’s past and is feeling for him.
"When was the last time you had a relationship?"
20 years ago.
He's 58. 58 - 20 = 38. 38 is the age he said he went through rehab and cried at his mother's grave. He also said his ex "betrayed him". That's quite a lot of stuff for 1 year.
Man doesn't fuck around apparently.
yeah I don't blame him, something like that would make most people not care for another relationship again
He is a paid actor
@@mr.o523 if he is, he is one good actor!
@@mr.o523 Seriously doubt it.
This is couple's therapy between Jimmy and Dave.
Underrated comment lol
@@wesley3300 truxu
THAT DAVID GUY GOT SO HUMILLIATED HE COULDNT EVEN SPEAK FOR LIKE HALF AN HOUR LMAOOO HAHAHHAHA
Yo! 😂
Dave isn't on the same level as Jimmy, I think a relationship wouldn't work, even though Dave probably doesn't have a hairy a**
I think the most hilarious thing about this (very enlightening and fascinating interview!) is how Dr. K was very cordial, very professional, very open, and I think really helped Jimmy and planted some seeds of growth, but once the interview ends, Dr. K just goes "what was THAAAAT😂😂😂" and is just bemused by the whole thing. The therapist, and then the human
I think that's a real sign of maturity for anyone - to be able to hear things that make you go "???????", but to hold composure and have curiosity to know more.
Yeah, this is why we need professionals, not just some random person moderator.
Yeah thats extremely unprofessional behavior (acting like that afterwards, since everyone can see it anyway)
@@Aliangeragreed. Very unprofessional.
@@Alianger How do you expect him to act afterward? The guy is simultaneously arrogant and ignorant. On top of that, you can't be radiating hatred and expect people to not be reactive at all. Therapists are human too.
Jimmy if you're reading this, your painting/illustration is REALLY good! Thanks for sharing that, especially since earlier you said, "I wish they'd just put a guitar in my hand." And thank you for showing so much of your life and getting so personal, that takes balls. Like I don't think I'd be brave enough to be in a equivalent situation (like a right wing show host and a Christian pastor counselor or whatever the equivalent would be)
Actually I didn't paint it,lol,I commissioned an artist that hangs out on a channel that I listen to and he was worried that David would sue him so he refused to sign it so I had him put my name on it,lol
Did anyone else find it funny that David was talking about Jimmy like he was Jimmy's mom talking to a specialist
Edit: guys it's been over 2 years, I get it, you magas think it's not funny (it is) and you neolibs think it's okay to be disrespectful to another person if they're uneducated. Nobody's adding anything new to the conversation. Most of you guys in the replies don't seem to watch any of Dr. K's other videos, because you clearly haven't learned to think like a therapist, and it shows, and it's cringey. I know you're gamers, but seriously, go outside or something once in a while.
Absolutely. Around 42:00 he doesn't even talk to Jimmy directly, but in the third person as if he's talking to Dr. K without Jimmy there also being in the room and it's a little cringey, to be honest.
More like 0 respect. That david guy acts like a passive aggressive teenager
I am sure they have talked with each other about that before but don't even know what episode to point you to, given the 3 years of publicised "Jimmy from Philly" calls.
I would guess David didn't want to be in this conversation beyond making the connection, given his general other attitudes and comments
LOL actually tho
David is just trying to cut through Jimmy's deflections.
David: he chased down 4 black teenagers in a car while drunk
Jimmy: No he is getting that wrong, they were all over the age of 20 and in court they couldn't prove I was drunk, even though I was
well this is gonna be a fun one
Ahahahahaha
"I wasn't drunk"
Seconds later
"I wasn't THAT drunk"
Oh boy this is a fucking treat
That part
LMAOOO
Hunter S. Thompson doesn't like getting the facts wrong.
This guy is a text book case of growing up with a severe case of adhd in an environment that didn't know how to deal with it.
This was a master class on talking to people we disagree with. David's introduction completely closed me off to Jimmy and by the end of Dr. K's discussion with him I almost wanted him to be my neighbour. If 10% of us approached each other this way, half our societal problems would evaporate.
Check Vivek ramaswamy
This is easily going in the top 5 HealthyGamer interviews
Love that you appeared in this comment section lmao
The first ten minutes alone are gold
This blew my mind.
100%
Two elitists psychoanalyzing a guy who likes to laugh at everything.
Grade A stuff 😂
Watch this again, but pay careful attention to Pakman. He came into this having already dehumanized Jimmy. Jimmy isn't a person to David, hes a caricature of the enemy. Now watch his face as the interview goes on. Dr. K talking to Jimmy like a person, re-humanized Jimmy. This is what we all need to remember. Other Americans are not the enemy. We all have much more in common than we like to admit.
Someone who opens the gates of the city to let the enemy in so they can burn and pillage is not your friend, your countryman, or your ally. You have nothing in common with such a person. They are a traitor.
@@StarboyXL9 You really think you have more in common with some CCP goon, or a tribes woman from the serengetti than you do with some asshole from Philly?
@@deang8017 Read my comment. The traitor who opens the gate to let the enemy inside the city is NOT your friend, ally, or brother. Period.
@@StarboyXL9 Can you elaborate? I'm not following your logic
@@deang8017 You wouldn't be able to golem
This shit was intense. Never seen someone chain smoke and do whippets during a therapy session, haha. I do feel for Jimmy though. I hope he is doing better now and I wish him all the best.
I was wondering what that sounds was, lol
Thanks,I'm sober from everything now for 8 months
i was wondering what the black screen/noise was but as soon as I read your comment I was like "oh... yea sure, that checks out"
@@aunderiskerensky2304 they had to take it out as per the terms of service for CZcams.I have it unedited and there's another channel that has it too..Q something.It's pretty funny
@@JimmyfromPhilly1that's incredible man! How does it feel to be on that path currently?
I've never watched David's show, but I was extremely disappointed with the way he introduced Jimmy. Dr. K, you highlighted the nature of that initial characterizarion perfectly. I would've tried, but your patience is definitely greater than mine. I wouldn't say I have right wing politics, but that intro, that basically said "Here comes the wild criminal" is what pushed me away from the left. It's as if many left-leaning folks are scared to empathize with people like Jimmy to begin with, because it's bad for your brand to be associated with anything remotely "right wing." That is fear, and it gets us nowhere. Thank you for having the courage to relate to what Jimmy was saying, Dr. K. A lot of it resonated with me, specifically, our caregivers just doing the best they could, often unable to navigate negative emotions, especially in men. I experienced a lot of that growing up and built some pretty thick walls of my own. This gave me a ton of insight into my relationship with my mother and was a good reminder to continue to move closer to her, despite the resentment I've been slowly chipping away at. Thank you, Jimmy. Much Love.
I know right?
What's interesting is, I agree with what you said, but with the context of David's show I think it's very easy no matter your political opinion to make the assumptions David did. This episode really did teach me a little about the importance of patience and compassion when navigating difficult conversations.
You're welcome
This is a masterclass in communication.
Jimmy is fascinating, which helps.
Jimmy makes some really great points. I also hate david packman sitting there almost laughing the entire time.
@@zachemorgan I don't know anything about David Packman. His relationship with Jimmy is strange.
@@venassis7749 I think so to he's a very left wing political commentator on CZcams I watched one show of his to try and see what he was about but it was so far left that it felt more like propaganda than news. I'm a Tim Pool guy myself.
@@Darkdevil1584 cause hes left wing
how does no one understand this.
Imagine randomly seeing your dad on your recommended after you haven't talked to him for 10 years
BRUH XD
Strength to you, champ
LMAOOO
Wait, is he your dad?
Do you mean hypothetically or is he actually your dad??? I need to know
Someone cast Jimmy in the next mafia boss roll. He has the perfect voice for it, plus the smoking and the language he uses, it all fits perfectly
This was an amazing lesson in listening and understanding. Jimmy reminds me a lot of my dad, I think if my dad hadn’t found my mom and cooled off a little his life would have gone in much the same way, and this conversation just really improved my understanding of how someone with a tough childhood carries that trauma forward.
Thanks Dr K!
Whats amazing to me is how there's only a minor dichotomy between far left and far right people. I think alot of the issue with the political climate is the victim mentality caused by childhood and early adulthood trauma. The difference is the left tends to internalize that mentality, while the right externalizes it.
I do think a good woman can help a man be happier. I'm glad for your parents. Jimmy is tough, but I think he longs for that innocent kid before he became tough. When Jimmy explained how he was happy and skipped around, then he got bullied for it, he accepted it was inevitable. .He understands the world he grew up in. Also, the doctor asked him what it would mean to him if he ever really was a victim. Jimmy said, "I don't know because I don't behave like a victim. If somebody wrongs me I get back at them... And I generally make it funny and spectacular. It's just what I do." Wow! That is an understanding of himself. I think people might have missed how much confidence Jimmy has in himself. He did say forgiveness has to come with an atonement, you can't just say it was okay they hurt you. He isn't a wimp. BUT, he misses that noncynical, happy innocent kid that he was. And I think that kid is important to him. I also think Jimmy is super smart. I just wish he could see the world isn't wimps and strongmen. It's people who have their own kid inside they also live with.
@@velvetbeesyeah I think me and him are much the same but realizing adults are just grown up kids at an early age was very formative for me I clearly remember that realization
I also have a built in deep humility and empathy due to my body destroying itself starting at an early age I had a 14 time no loss tournament win streak in MMA because what’s pain that thing I feel every day and I could ride a bike for 24 hours easy but pretty soon I’m not going to be able to walk and I’ll probably die if a heart attack no fault of mine quite the opposite I did everything possible to perfect my physical condition but that’s just the cards 🃏
I felt the same way, not just about Jimmy's relationship with his mother, but also about what my dad has told me about his relationship with his own mother.
@@velvetbeesThat is very thoughtful. Life is more intriguing than we can all comprehend. So easy to box people into labelled categories than try to understand where they come from.
Dr K is such a damn good psychologist.
I found his approach to jimmy very sympathetic for the most part but too many times in this interview did he give Jimmy reassurance in his behavior... agreeing with everything he says anx moving on almost seems insulting to Jimmy has a person, he deserves the respect of a man to tell him to his face that he should not be doing the things he is doing and its offensive and dangerous. Lets stop treating Jimmies like children and treat them like the adults they are.
@@brooksbrooks6805 Like Dr K said at the beginning, he's not there to treat Jimmy but just have a conversation with him. You don't call people out on their BS when you're just chatting with them. Dr K let it go because he's not here to change Jimmy, just learn about his perspective.
@@brooksbrooks6805 Ah yes, the random comment with likely no training knows more about approach than a trained psychiatrist
@@brooksbrooks6805 If you do that, then the other person shuts down immediately and no constructive conversation is possible anymore. Gotta make them feel comfortable to open up and ask them questions that lead them to come to conclusions by themselves and only then are they able to maybe be open to trying to change things. It's a long process though.
Psychiatrist not a Phychologist , simular but not the same .
“Everything is funny” is a damn clear coping mechanism
To be fair. Everything is funny tho.
@@Greeezy Everything? Every single thing is funny?
@@Greeezy Dave Chapelle said it best "everything's funny until it happens to you" I definitely didn't see a grin on his face when he was talking about feeling abandoned by his mother...
@@zeeenno humor is our species way of dealing with dark issues. So yes, I’m a sense, everything is funny. Maybe not initially but at some we can find dark things funny.
@@michaelmiller6050 Wise af. Couldn’t agree more.
Dr. K is amazing!!! Thank you Jimmie for being open to this conversation.
You're welcome
He’s actually way more thoughtful and flexible that I thought he would be-I know lots of ppl who have yet to forgive their parents for things in their childhood, and he clearly has moved on in the best way he can, he’s very positive and tries to be resilient. I really hope he lessens his alcohol and smoking and whip it’s 😂
I'm 5 months sober at the moment,thanks
@@JimmyfromPhilly1 it’s getting close to a year, hope things are still doing well jimmy!
@@ferretlord3990 Thanks it'll be a year on the 20th.Pretty sure that I'm gonna do a follow up interview with Dr.K over the summer
You knew this was gonna be good when he called him, “Doc”
I’m glad I’m not the only one who had this thought lol
As soon as he said Doc I thought "Oh here we go". I love this guy by the way.
😂😂😂 wtf right !
The way he speaks you can tell he knows reality
the people that immediately refer to transphobia, homophobia, xenophobia are the true looneys in this world favored by some inconsistent force as a means of displaying chaos
@@crowmaster9652 ok boomer
it's so impressive to watch Dr. K work. I never would have expected such a deep conversation out of Jimmy after the first 5 minutes, but Doc revealed what a complicated and thoughtful person he is, flawed as he may be.
These videos are the ones that remind me how much more work I have to do to truly be able to listen to others.
Could you point out his flaws? Other than the obvious chain-smoking of course
@@azmaIS I don't think making fun of people for being gay or trans is a good thing lol.
@@azmaIS I can answer in Ryan's stead.
I'd say that most of the "flaws" probably boil down to a lack of compassion for others that may also be somewhat unintentional.
And, as Dr K said, the rigidness of his beliefs makes it harder to show him how he may be hurting people with what he says/believes.
Other than that though, besides his drug use, I'd say he seems like a genuinely friendly dude.
But that's just my perspective on the situation.
@@janold0808 from my perspective I think Jimmy(and myself included) cares more about facts than peoples feelings. If someone is being delusional I don’t think taking part in their delusion is a compassionate act, it’s the opposite in my opinion if you look at the bigger picture
As a right winger, I'm actually really glad he was willing to step across the aisle and actually listen to someone he disagrees with, instead of modern political discourse, which is just a bunch of reactionary nonsense (and yes, I mean that on both sides. Most people do it nowadays- I try not to)
I don't like to prejudge people on the internet (or irl) based on what I find in their political beliefs- although my brain automatically sees their online bio and goes 'yep, definitely left wing' or 'yep, definitely right wing'- I always try to be willing to reach out and make friends. Sadly, I don't see a lot of that from the other side (i leave political indicators out of my bios usually), and I also don't see it incredibly often from my own side, so it always brightens my day to see someone genuinely engage in conversation with someone from another political belief. This is what America was built on- respectful debating and chatting about politics- not the identity politics, and not the reactionary politics and disrespect I see all the time nowadays.
That said, have a great day, and thanks for reading my ramble!
Yeah, I wish this was more common. I'm not a fan of David; I don't see him debating people who are extremely articulate like Destiny does. David also seemed very disrespectful and snake like in this video in my eyes but I could be wrong.
When it comes to the left, I like people like Jimmy Dore and Glenn Greenwald the most because they don't buy into the corporate media's bullshit. Jimmy Dore is an outspoken socialist and hates most of Trump's policies outside of foreign policy but he knew RussiaGate was bullshit pretty quickly because he's still capable of being logical.
I've never seen a rational argument from someone who's antiwar that didn't acknowledge Trump's foreign policy was better than his predecessors.
We need more of this! It was lovely to hear him open up and understand his own motives better.
You made me feel compassion for someone that I fundamentally disagree with, and I think that is something that we could use more of in this world. Thank you.
Will it take this level of "knowing someone" for you to have compassion for someone you disagree with in the future? ... I have learned in the last couple years that you should never be mad at or hate or whatever people whose opinions come from the heart no matter how much they came from lies etc... At that point i just "pray" for them, or the human species as a whole anyway. It's unfortunate that some people are so lost.
You may have compassion for them. But, do they have compassion for you?
@@ceekay4649 why does it matter? Do immigrants for whom we have compassion for, have compassion or contempt for us? My father came from Pakistan back in '78 as a refugee seeing asylum and he was not a big fan of Americans and America in general.
@@UsmanKhan-coolmf it does matter. I will not feel compassion for someone who hates me and wishes nothing but harm to me. They are my enemy as they have declared war on me. I feel compassion for people who are truly merit it, those who are being discriminated against and experience injustice, and expect nothing in return.
@@ceekay4649 it's difficult to be compassionate if your heart is filled with vengeance and hate. You can't walk over someone dying and begging for help because they didn't help you when you did the same and be a compassionate person. Or can you? (I could be wrong here but maybe you understand the point I'm poorly trying to make haha.)
Somehow the way David responds to Jimmy leaves a distasteful feeling, like he looks down on him or tries to antagonise him, even Dr K notices it
yeah because pakman is a lefty and he its not about truth its about winning, thats why pakman goes for the jugular within 5 seconds of starting, he is scared that he is wrong
I don't know much about Doctor K, but both of them act like conceited dicks from Planet Serious.
The guy's been a listener calling into David's show leaving hateful messages for over two years now. If that's the extent of your interactions with no knowledge of the strangers past, I don't blame him.
@@rve420 is that how delicate pakmans little mind is, some stranger from the back ass off nowhere and pakman needs a doctor to help deal with him lmfao, you people are pathetic
@@slappy5204 You are projecting very hard here.
I like David a lot & believe he is a truly insightful & talented guy. Having said that, I thought his introduction of Jimmy was disgusting. He might as well have introduced him as 'the thug' which I think caused Jimmy to put his guard up at the very beginning. I liked it when Doctor K called David out on that & think that I the Doc did a great job breaking thru those barriers.
It caused me to rock a whippet,lol
I agree. I was appalled with David.
Because David is a super dense and dull human being.
I have no idea who David is but i felt the same yeah. I was like "can they all hear eachother? What's happening here?"
This convo made me cry at multiple points as a 27 yr old women with how relatable it was to see the way Jimmy arrives at conclusions. It made me happy and relieved that although the life he has had and is having have vast difference to mine, the human thinking can parallel each other this strongly
This is the thinking you relate to?
@abhishekgodse6 i think she means that it's relatable to see the ways his experiences shaped his thinking and how it could have been similar for anyone. What I'm finding incredible is that underneath the abrasive language and attitude, he's said some really profound and wise things. He's proven to me that he is a thinking, intelligent person who has developed coping strategies that unfortunately may hurt others. What blew my mind is that he said he's an atheist, and that he's examined a variety of religions and cultures. His expression is crass, sure, but he's much more relatable than Pakman or any of us could see when the video started.
Same, it got tough before the one hour mark. I was distracted at the part of Trump supporters which I thought they titled the video wrong for a bit! Amazing almost 2 hours. I AM curiously tempted to visit his yt channel!
@@merlin_24why are you here? To troll comments, or do you relate also?
@@Indy__isnt_it so you relate to that thinking as well? LOL
Jimmy should be a voice actor. He definitely has an iconic voice
He's literally a real life Mort Goldman from Family Guy. He looks AND sounds like him. You can't make this up
He sounds like Louie's dad from "The life of Louie", at least in the Romanian version of it. Maybe the title's wrong, idk what it is in English, but the cartoon was about the cildhood of a guy who was a comedian.
@@HakumeiTenshi Bro that's exactly what I was thinking 😭😭
no, he just has an unhealthy smoker voice
@@kuromdy nobody asked you anything
"I'm trying to vape more"
This is a wild interview lol.
put this on my tombstone
"My doctor recommended I vape more" is basicly what he said later too lol. What a doctor
Edit: To everyone pointing out that doctors recommend vaping as a substitute for cigars, you can rest assured I know that. I'm just pointing out his interpretation of what the doctor said gives a hell of a mental image of a bad doctor. Note that he said "Doctor recommends I vape more" rather then "Doctor recommends I smoke less, so I've been vaping more."
@@Eric-jh5mp Yeah, that had be absolutely in stitches lol
@@Eric-jh5mp it sounds like the doctor was trying but he misunderstood. Imagine a doctor has told you a hundred times that you stop drinking soda but you won't and finally he asks you to try this low sugar version. You hear that and start drinking twice as much of the stuff because now you dont feel bad about it. Better for you doesnt mean good for you but he took it to mean that.
@@connorchristensen1291 well you probably could smoke more with the vapes if he wasn't still also smoking the cigs and it wouldn't be as bad. Rat poison and shit doesn't tend to be in vape juice 😂
This was great, Dr. K! I'm always happy to find longform content that lets people settle in and fully talk through what they see as important. I thought you guided the conversation with grace
I learned a lot from this interview. What I have learned is that sometimes hurt people hurt people sometimes intentional or unintentional. I do have greater sympathy and empathy for Jimmy. ❤❤❤
Yes. Evidently David has been hurt.
Always good to start an "unbiased" interview with a character assassination.
You'll have to excuse me... I thought you were on some BS when I read this at first, but 15 minutes into the interview, holy crap, David is monstrously cruel...
For a second I thought you meant because he looks like a npc from a game like hitman or something
@@catsrule8844 You think maybe you're missing the context of the relationship between David Pakman and this guy from Philly? The guy from Philly was a known caller to the show and repeatedly lambasted David as some preacher of falsehoods and was known to use transphobic, homophobic slurs etc. So David might be more comfortable being tough on this person because of their history. Not only that, but this man adamantly states that he doesn't really give a shit about what anyone thinks. So, who cares if David points out his personal problems? The guy from Philly very obviously doesn't care what David says.
BTW is he smoking meth whenever he turns the camera off? He seems very much like i am when I take too much adderall. Constantly smoking and fidgeting.
Yeah holy shit
The irony is that Dave is there to make fun of this guy, but you were able to actually put political bias aside and do some real active listening to give people perspective on this guys survival strategies (as questionable as they may be) everyone is just trying to survive in the best way they know how, that doesn't mean its the best way.
Facts.
This is a horrible look for "progressive" David.
The point is to be less judgemental, and David took the opportunity. I think all of us should be less so. The only person you should try to be better than is yourself.
@@lilithdvs13 "all liberals ever do is judge tho. I don’t see how any liberal can stop being judgmental as long as they stick to those fucked up, prejudiced beliefs." I do hope you see the irony in this.
>canadian
@@franklinnartz1381 what’s an example of one of those “prejudiced beliefs”?
This interview was wild. It was a roller coaster where when it began, i was like ohhhh boy... but then we dove into it, and i was like, "He makes some points," and then we get into his pas, and then he shows that he's tried and still is trying to self improve... and it completely gives new light to everything. Then he makes the comparison of him being just like dr.k and i was like "dang he's not wrong, they literally have the exact same situation, just that one had it worse (im not saying this objectivly, i obviously don't know focter k's backround that well but if it's anything like mine then i think i understand)... legendary interview with so much that can be learned.
I hope he stops smoking.
25 minutes in I started feeling bad for this guy, realizing he’s hiding the bad parts in his life behind humor.
It's not hiding.. The past is real and that's what Made him. If you ignore the past you Will never get over it.
@Toms Markovs well, perhaps he's not hiding but all of that stuff has CLEARLY manifested as a lot of hate and intolerance.
I hope he finds a way to pass through the world without so much friction. It seems like he's finding so many reasons to be mad when all he has to do is look away.
Haha he’s hilarious
@@stivenhunt395 “this right-winger is ACTUALLY like when left-wing”
A year ago I said "I wouldn't even talk to a Trump supporter" because I thought they were just 'gone'
But we have SO much in common! It's really just minor discrepancies between us, and I'm a leftist
I started laughing so hard when he said "the only thing I'm a victim of is the 70s" lmao
Lol
Actually, I wonder how much of MAGA is the result of boomer drug use in the 60's and 70's. I'm a boomer myself and it seems like the people from my high school class that were the hard core druggies are now hard core MAGA's.
43:12 Timestamp
That was good shit, I too cracked ok that part.
And the tobacco industry.
Nobody who watches this channel would think this is staged. This is a trusted community.
I'm absolutely enthralled by this interaction. I used to be angry, retaliatory, frustrated, addicted, and i blamed everything on everyone else. I hit a wall where I either died or changed, I changed. I had to confront everything about myself and I see that need for sefl actualization in Jimmy. The hate needs to stop, gay people didn't make you feel this way, trans people didnt hurt you. Insecurities that cause us to attack or "one up" other people that we can just walk away from is a crutch, a crutch that kills you. Im obviously just another idiot online lol, I was never as intense as Jimmy, even tho my parents killed themselves in front of me and left me as a broke and alone orphan from early high school. Anger is a drug, hope you get yourself help and embrace it. Respect for all involved for their part in this.
I'm only turning 20 soon, and I can't bring myself to forgive my mother for like, way less shit than this guy forgave his own for. It really puts into perspective how much longer I have to live and develop as a person.
@youjustlostthegame5042 I was unplanned, and she was messed up on drugs and alcohol at the time so Ive been living with my father in a house with 6 other people, where theres often conflict and yelling, it not perfect but its way better than the alternative.. Im mad at my mother because once she got clean and i tried reconnecting with her a few years back, i soon came to realize that she felt entitled to my love despite there being essentially no relationship between us. she would get mad at me not saying happy mothers day, or not saying I love you back. im not the kind of person who feels comfortable bullshitting an "I love you." So I've stopped talking to her for the time being (its been over two years since i last spent time with her), but she keeps trying to get back in contact with me. i simply do not want her in my life right now and she can't seem to respect that.
@@dazzdazzle8758 I feel you on that. Weirdly similar situation myself with my mom. I’m the opposite and I forgive a little too easily. Sometimes forgiveness is great for letting go of anger. But at some extremes I end up letting bad people back into my life. So. When you’re going through that growth. Remember to keep a balance
@@dazzdazzle8758 While forgiveness is a valuable tool for healing, it's important to realize that nobody deserves forgiveness. Forgiveness is earned and it is a choice made by the victim of harmful actions. Regardless of how forgiving Jimmy is for his mother, yours is a separate journey.
@@dazzdazzle8758 Let's look at it this way.
I forgave my mother for being on drugs. She continued to do it behind our backs. She ended up dying to the fentanyl lacing along with her fiancee a year ago.
@@jzburda random stranger here, you ok?
Jimmy says he's happy all the time, but he sounds like he is angry all the time, and laughs it off.
That's partly because of growing up in Philly.
I am also from Philly. Part of that is just the way we talk. We all sound angry.
I saw that too. I’m also like that sometimes and it usually comes from repressed resentment and anger. Can be pretty painful.
I would say he's more sad than angry, think his sadness turns into "anger" to cope with it.
He's definitely angry. I mean, even looking at the small things like the "f%ck Biden" poster in his room. Why go through the effort get a poster like that that exudes such negativity and hang it up on your wall? I don't like a lot of people, concepts and other things, but I would never hang a poster about any of those things to remind me how much I hate it. I would rather hang up things that exudes positivity. If I were Jimmy, I would hang up that painting that I made instead of the Biden poster. Why should I keep reminding myself how much I hate Biden when, instead, I could remind myself how good I am at painting?
This is fascinating, I had no idea that part of the brain may shut down in survivors. This interview was eye opening to understand some of my friends and family.
I learnt so much from this conversation. Eye opening. Thank you.
I'm officially a fan now... it's incredible how you got the man to speak about the possible origins of his homophobia, and instead of calling him out or simply acting like his psychologist and saying "do you think that might be why you make fun of gays? Because you were made fun of for showing such qualities?" Instead of that you search for his internal logic with nothing but support and understanding! now THIS is what I call unbiased and proper interviewing. I'm honestly impressed.
Why do parents have to tell their children not to say things about overweight or men who are dressed as women or people in wheelchairs. Why? .. i think because children are intently like that. Why do kids enjoy making fun of "fat" or whatever? ... There can be deeper issues in some cases but for most of us, we are just human. My opinion is ignorant and i have education in this area so it's probably wrong.
@@UsmanKhan-coolmf Why do parents have to tell children how to handle small things when their below 3 years old?
@@victorvanvolt8425 because they sometimes need to be taught what is right and what is wrong
@@UsmanKhan-coolmf Not all kids are the same. Assuming they are is your problem.
I never had to be told not to make fun of people different than me. Maybe that's why I never liked the right.
Bear in mind, Dr. K can do this because he’s a trained therapist/psychiatrist. So he’s not interviewing like the average media personality would.
Jimmy is the type of guy no political streamer would seriously debate because he seems ''beyond changing'' and for the first minutes of the conversation it feels that way, everything ties back to politics and conspiracies etc, but with less than an hour he was already admitting the one time he felt like a victim in life. I feel like we are way too quick to say someone is beyond the point where they are worth talking to
It's not that they're literally beyond reach, but reaching through to them in a way that can engender meaningful, lasting change means sifting through months (at least) of hate speech and constantly discussing new misinformation. When everyone is already feeling beaten down, very few of us have the capacity to reach out to people like this because it easily becomes exhausting and hurtful.
I’m some ways it’s hard to tell if by change we mean to persuade to our beliefs, and we are trying too hard to that end with this whole “beyond saving” talk. Not everyone is going to fit your mold, and Jimmy if anything is a great example, he is tired of being shoved into a mold, he stands up, and he snaps back.
There are multiple sides to things, and it is important that his concerns are heard as well. We are all flawed, we all have different backgrounds and biases, and it’s ok. It takes opening up on both sides to agree on something, anything at all, we can’t just focus on Jimmy, we must look inward as well.
You build a footing with common ground, but don’t set out with a goal of knowing your right and you are here to conquer, no wonder people put up walls and lash back out. Take that precious common ground and build upon it, expand it, and do so without a selfish intent.
@@ApolloTheDerg I get the rationale of finding common ground and trying to understand where other people are coming from, but that's not an excuse to toss out your morality. There are lines that should not be crossed.
It's not selfish to want to stop people like Jimmy from harming minorities and it isn't incorrect to recognize that that's what he's doing. Nobody should be open to agreeing that hate speech is okay.
@@AbandonedVoid This take is hilarious because you back up Jimmy’s claim of a truth nuke being inadequate to counter an emotional decision.
That take is incredibly selfish and either exposes the weakness of your own ego, or how fragile you think minorities are, and that says more about you than anything.
These words only wound fragile egos, and it appears you may be even more judgmental than Jimmy.
Context matters, intent matters, and if you can’t accept that, maybe it is you who is “beyond saving”? You have the gall to sit here and complain about time converting someone and then sit here and spew narrow minded stuff like this, no wonder the world has Jimmy’s.
@@ApolloTheDerg It's judgmental, narrow-minded, and selfish to say that hate speech is wrong and hurts people? Is that something someone who claims to believe we should listen to everyone's concerns would say? I don't think so.
Incredible interview. Jimmy is abrasive but deep down he's a good guy. His sucky fcky comment and Dr K's reaction had me laughing out loud. Don't blame him for going after the people repeatedly stealing his property either.
I don't know if Jimmy would be reading these comments, but if he does, I really hope your daughter watches this and gives you another chance to get to know you and form her own opinions without your ex's influence.
Thanks
2 years later and Jimmy is still looking at these comments. Amazing how much this interview may have affected him! Hope things are going good Jimmy!
@@calebperz-stewart4334 sober 6 months in a recovery house,thanks
@@JimmyfromPhilly1how are you doing? Are you ok?
@@egontokessy1610 Yes 6 months sober, thanks for asking
This was an amazing interview. You never cease to amaze me with your skill!
I really hate so much that if I met someone like Jimmy on the street, I might've shared a lot of the same feeling David had towards him and assumed similar things.
I am in awe at how wonderful a friend DR.K can be to someone and help someone unpack all the things that he did for Jimmy. I have a lot to learn.
I mean, hard not to share similar thought given how David introduced him.
Even at the very end he was asking him about using so even with all being said, he probably sees him mostly as an addict and he uses it to explain Jimmy's behavior.
yeah you clearly do have a lot to learn
Beware of people like David. He's very manipulative
I really appreciate the openness and humility you have to be able to acknowledge that. I know a lot of people feel the same but have a hard time coming to terms with it. Shows incredible maturity (:
There’s humanity in every human and we all deserve a level a respect you acknowledging this though is huge we have a right to disagree or not like other people but they are still human beings
Dr K is a genius for being so empathetic and logical at the same time - I could only do one at a time lol
that was a great statement, being able to have empathy and logic. You put what Dr. K does into words very well, maybe youre smarter than you think ;)
@6Seraph6 thanks for sharing this!
That's the type the person that I strive to be, being so empathetic and logical.
Thing is people that Dr. K said himself that he would rate low on the emphatic scale if it was tested, because being a psychiatrist requires that.
He objectively understands emotions, that being logic if thats what you mean by him being emphatic.
@@Journeyagain0 Emphathetic ? 😂
This dude is so chill he actually makes David seem like a judgmental person.
I mean you don't have to make David seem judgmental, he does that himself
until you hear what Jimmy actually says rather than this convo
He is ...
He’s definitely chill I would love to chill with him if he didn’t hate me for my skin color
@@melanindrip5931 good news, I can guarantee he doesn't, the right tends to be very welcoming towards anyone as long as they're a good person
I had been a long time avoiding this interview because him being a trump supporter is so not interesting to me, but god I feel so much for this man. It is great that someone as understanding as dr k exists for people who tend to just be dismissed as bigots.
"I'll say this for you... LSD has helped me tremendously"... "I HIT THE SUCCY FUCCY" THIS LITERALLY KEEPS GETTING BETTER
LMFAO I know this guy is great I can't stop laughing!!! P
WHAT THE FUCK EVEN IS A SUCCY FUCCY I WAS TOO BUSY LAUGHING MY ASS OFF TO COMPREHEND
@Jimmy from Philly Wiped why can't i find this word in the urban dictionary
@Jimmy from Philly Wiped how many times did you do LSD? Is one time enough to do the trick?
@@weatheredseeker David doesn't seem like a leftist to me, he seems pretty liberal.
I didn't expect to cry watching this. When he described the punishments he would receive facing the wall I teared up. The abandonment of his parents. He was teased for existing in happiness and now spends the rest of his life reenacting the pain on everyone else. It's sad.
You have to be trolling, I hope so anyway lol Jimmy is great
@@kramliker I'm not trolling it's called empathy maybe you should try it some time.
No, its a problem, and he needs to go to fucking counseling. He's miserable, but that doesn't make his life sad.
People really lack empathy nowadays
I had very similar life experiences (minus being a delinquent) and worse and I haven't turned into a callous, ignorant buffoon. His life wasn't that hard, and like many straight dudes, he decided to turn into a bitter bigoted bully.
While he’s got some issues, Jimmy cracks me up at times for sure. This was a solid interaction. Knowing the history with Pakman, this was much needed.
wow I watched the whole thing, thanks Dr. K, loved your analysis at the end.
This is probably the best interview that Dr K. has ever done. A very good reminder that Dr K. isn't just an AoE healer, he's max level BIS healer. Top tier. Absolutely incredible.
BIS?
@@danethenice best in slot
Dr K is min maxing hard
He is like that healer that has "heals for 50% of the original value to allies nearby the target" but has so much raw heal that this is more then enough.
he would probably ask you to be careful with idolizing other people on internet, or in general
I love that he calls Dr K "Doc"
Ive never seen a man so quickly start to enjoy the conversation that he IS a part of.
This is fucking amazing!!! Thank you for having this type of discussion/therapy session .
This guys life is so sad, and he clearly is just damaged and coping in the only way he was ever taught. I started out ready to condemn this guy, but hearing him be vulnerable about his experiences (even if he doesn’t understand that is what he is doing) made it clear that he is just broken like everyone else. I sincerely wish him the best in growing and developing as a person, nobody is too old to change.
To change to what? Become an npc?
Did you not hear what he said, he is happy, people like him should be accepted while they still exist
The most hateful and narrowminded people are often the most broken, because they are that way as a result of their experiences. Hurt people hurt people.
Sad? Nah man, he grew up and he's content
@@genocidist2602 People don't always know how they feel. They can tell themselves that they are happy, but it is just a way to ignore issues most of the time.
There's two ways we can approach people that think differently than us. The way David does, and the way Dr. K does. I think we all know which way is the path to progression.
Facts
It is VERY hard for us untrained folk to take the dr. k route. That takes years of work to get towards.
@@IWANTHOTDOG no it doesn't. all it takes is to treat them like a human. just dont be radical and think people who dont agree with you are monsters and you are like dr k.
David Pakman is a holier-than-thou, insufferable asshole.
Yeah a progressive mindset is not coming from a proclaimed progressive.
Fantastic interview. At first I was afraid that the whole conversation would be Dr K asking a question, and Jimmy rapid firing political talking points instead of giving a personal answer. Really good job on completely bypassing that. I would have struggled to do it.
This was an incredible watch. Thank you.
I really cannot imagine having HALF the patience that Dr. K has.
I know right? Like hearing that drug addicts voice rots my brain.....ughhh
@@dragonslayer101Jimmy is GONE
@@dragonslayer101r/beatmetoit
Anyone that thinks Jimmy can't have a 2nd chapter and do better has either a poor reason to live or nome whatsoever. You may think he can't do better but if he's a person so are you and if you can do better so can he
Why do you find so hard to non judge others and allow them to explain themselves ?
Jesus christ.... this conversation got better and better with every passing topic change...
Oh hi veritas
When are you coming on to talk about anger management issues when twitch chat asks you a stupid question?
^
lol this dude's life legit feels like a movie , i was hooked within 5 minutes
@@henrik1743 As soon as @HealthyGamerGG decides to have me on :)
I loved this! We need more open conversations so we can start to understand each other. Unfortunately, it seems pretty difficult to have conversations like that these days.
David's aggressive and attacking behavior here really highlights Dr. K's exemplary ability to focus on understanding and compassion, even in the face of someone so polarizing like Jimmy. What a great role model.
Truth.
Not gonna lie I couldn't help but smile when he pulled out that painting. He looked so genuinely proud.
It was surprisingly good
It was very good
It was a painting of him spanking David Pakman, the guy from the beginning XD
Well, it was actually really good
*narrators voice*
“And it was at that point, that Koov, like many others, truly felt the fellow humanity of an angry, old republiQ”
I feel like if this guy spent about 5 minutes on self reflection, a lot could change. The fact that he said he didn’t like being made fun of, but then also said he was glad it happened so he could come back with witty comebacks was astounding. Like, they molded you in to what they wanted you to be by making fun of you, they destroyed something unique about you. And instead of realizing how bad that made him feel and deciding not to do it to other people, he just continued the cycle. Hurt people hurt people.
He would need more than 5 minutes.
From his story is sounds like he was all alone so he coped by adapting. He couldn't skip? So he stopped skipping. He was send away by his mother? He guilt tripped her for a bit but says that later in life he finds her decision justifiable. He was throw away to some boys house to get fixed? He tried to have fun and make friends since day one. And I wouldn't be surprised if those friends were users aka bad influence too.
In a way he is still doing it in his adult life. He mocks minorities, who react to him negatively while the other side of the extreme supports him and finds him hilarious.
How can anyone change if all their live the same pattern happens? And if he tried to change now and show "weakness", he probably feels like he would be eaten alive since the loudest people are the least forgiving. And I mean it on both sides. The one extreme would call him a snowflake while the other would say he is lying and should pay for his actions while never accepting him.
Change is hard, especially in the era of the internet. Everyone can look up what you said and even if you delete it, someone probably screenshot it. It's very hard for anyone to even think of turning a new leaf because the past will always come to haunt you. Especially when people are not charitable and misrepresent your actions while removing most of the context.
The way the other guy introduced Jimmy was pretty cold-hearted. This is probably why when Dr K was asking his question Jimmy was defensive for the first 30 minutes or so.
@@illusionofquality979to be fair, it's hard to give a warm-hearted introduction to someone who has decided to make their personality "the bad guy" - even if it is a giant front.
He is the way he is because Narcsisism makes you incapable of self reflection. He believes he's doing everything just fine.
But EVERYONE does this! Just watch people, and if you look hard, you'll see the same type of things in yourself because it is hard to re train your learned behaviors, it's subconscious and it just doesn't occur to you easily.
You can only be hurt if you're fragile
25:15 + there it is.
31:00 geezus. he doesn't even realize he's describing himself. 🤦🏾♂
the only thing this did was make me pity this guy. didn't expect it at all but i really feel so much pity for him. his background absolutely explains why he is who he is today.
he's a grown man now tho. + even tho our trauma is not our fault, it is our responsibility. his decision to expel his pain + harm others instead of heal is why i can't feel sorry for him, just pity.
hope he decides to stop blaming everything + everyone except himself + start healing one day.
😂+😢+🤬= Jimmy
Nah you are out here most likely with a political agenda in your underdeveloped brain spouting this bs and hating on the old man for not agrreing with your bs
Yeah 31:00 how did he not realise
Yeah i also agree that parkman shoul heal and stop blaming others
Nice job truly listening to your guest and trying to understand vs. just trying to stay stomp the guest.
When this is done, we find that we actually have much more in common than we think.
Dr K: 🧐
Jimmy: 😂
Packman: 😐
27:55
"Can I just think for a second Jimmy?"
"You don't need my permission to think"
I know Dr. K's question is rhetorical, but I loved the answer
It's the Philly dark humor, rhetoric questions do not exist there.
Even if their understood as such.
I legit think that every time he says that. I know he's just being polite when he asks, but its still kind of funny
It's actually super annoying when people do that. They know you're being polite and they're just being dicks. Like when I ask cashier "Can I have x?" and they're like "I don't know, can you?" like, sorry for being polite...
@@Anna13Tonks lol that's a joke because the proper way to say it is "May I have x?" as Can is more like are you physically able to?
It's just Jimmy trying to be funny when he really isn't. Nothing more. Nothing less
Great experience watching the way the three of you communicated and how over time the dynamic shifted. Dr. K. Is phenomenal as he works with someone. Exactly the type of approach I would thrive with in treatment. Excellent episode and really appreciate all that you do Doc.
That was great. Ahhh, the good old days, doing therapy with a very difficult guy, then finding he's not as difficult as you think. Yep, that darned anger, it's contained in a hard little nut of pain. Jimmy was way more interesting than I thought he would be. Most of my career was in San Francisco, but a few years at the end were in a rural area of the northwest. The scale of rural poverty and hopelessness far outpaces that of my urban clients. Even though I do understand them better, I still have had great difficulty living among them - expecially after retirement.
This is like an opening to a movie, he's just smoking like there's no tomorrow with a f*ck Biden banner in the background.
Good, he’ll get capitalist greed and big government funded induced lung cancer. Hope he has health insurance 🤷♂️
A movie where the protagonist is actually just a piece of shit
@@Versace_sheets Holy fuck the shots being fired
hes smokin like this is his last minute..
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 pretty sure it's just tobacco mate
I have ADHD but this kept my focus for the entire hour and a half. Absolute content gold
Makes sense. I think he also have ADHD and 2x cluster B.
same
Jimmy is authentic. Dr. K is logical and professional.
Big feel
Same
dayum!!!!! Man.... I'm speechless..... I mean, I've being watching (most listening to) a lot of these videos lately, lots of amazing ones (Sasha, Charlie...) but this one, man...... I'm so amazed how Dr. K can have such a great conversation with someone in such an advanced age and with such a harded mind. Dr. K, you're a great person/doctor, you inspire me to want to become a better person
I really enjoyed that discussion. From the psychological perspective and my own AA/Recovery and personal experiences. I won't express my own feelings or opinions on this man because it's not my place, and frankly, no one asked lol. I just really want to applaud your way of speaking to him in an honest, constructive, and positive way. This is the first time I've seen your channel, or heard you talk. I'm definitely going to subscribe. Thanks.
Just an interesting observation:
Therapists are trying their best to prevent the conversation from going on a tangent because the person who is going through the therapy desperately wants to avoid the topics or thoughts that would help them overcome their issues. So I have a lot of respect for therapists who stuck it out in a bid to help their patients.
Yeah, most doctors have to somewhat guide the patient in the right direction. Help them realize and understand. A psychiatrist is of course way more equipped than a surgeon, but all need the skill.
Absolutely. If it isn't reigned in it becomes a conversation, not therapy.
Yeah well, he wasn't there for therapy in the first place. That's why.
I have an even more interesting observation for you: you missed K's preface of the conversation as being 'just a conversation'. Even better is that he is trying to find a reason for painting the behaviour of the man in a bad daylight. The dude has some rough edges, but seems to be up front, honest and not too complicated..
That's a good point. They do the same thing in police interrogations, actually. If you've watched any JCS you'll probably be familiar with this. Guilty/nervous people tend to go on long, unrelated tangents to avoid talking about the crime, and police have to find a way to gently guide them back to the topic without making them more nervous.
This was a beautiful interview in some ways. I learnt so much as a human being and a health professional. It's made me reflect on my own preformed judgements, those open questions that are not really open? I think I have my own kneejerk, over the top defences because I can't deal with feelings of victimhood, judgement, pain or vulnerability. Our experience shapes us. May I learn to temper the fire, enjoy the soothing balm of water. Grateful for the lessons and skills illustrated in this interview 🙏.
it was clear that Jimmy's definition of victim is someone that doesn't respond after something happens to them.
I love and appreciate your videos, Dr. K! Understanding is essential.
"Once you get someone to make an emotional judgement, not even a nuclear bomb of truth can change their mind" Jimmy spittin facts
Yup. It's why some people just can't be reasoned with. *racks shotgun slide*
Except he may not have imagined it happening to himself. I think that's what Dr.K was trying to ask when he said "Is it possible you were a victim(of this fact)"
Lol that’s not true at all. Depends on the person and their emotional intelligence. And Dr.K stated he disagrees as well. So in other words only a guy with the brain of an ape would believe that horrid logic.
It’s funny how that statement actually applies to trump supporters too…
I read this comment at the exact moment in the video he started saying it. Really freaked me out!
“The video only showed I was angry, it didn’t show I was drunk”
*Seconds later “I was drunk” Lmao He’s funny
he is a comedian no doubt
that was pretty funny
He never said he wasn't drunk, just that the video didn't show it
@@andrewprahst2529 Based on the length of the video and/or amount of information available (haven't actually seen the video), it is possible that an expert or someone with training could have inferred based on his behaviours that he was probably drunk. He's either too egotistical or doesn't recognize the behaviours that give away his drunkenness. Additionally, him admitting to being drunk is a sign that he's probably egotistic and thinks that he hid it better than he actually did.
@@bandgeek0622 I was just taking his word for it, because he said he won the case and that's all I have to go off of
This was a super great listen if anyone is wondering I found it very good!
Why was David even in this interview. He should have just passed him to Dr. K and left the call. Everything about the interview that makes this video so golden is between Dr. K and the vulnerability from Jimmy. David literally only impedes that from his introduction to the close.
So David was trying to make a fool out of me hoping for a reaction.He only made a fool out of himself
"Jimmy chased a car full of black teenagers while intoxicated"
Dr K: *Bewildered expression* Takes notes
No no dude he got it all wrong, they were 20. It really changes things.
@@Versace_sheets Ah yeah my bad
I cant believe he said that like it was a meaningful correction lmao what a moron
@@Versace_sheets Also thieves and racists
He only called them the N word in the police cruiser 😂 jfc
I've never seen someone so aggresively yet casually chainsmoke in their own home
and is that his edgy son's bedroom. . .lmao
Smoke and vape at the same time too
@@conjointoates "I'm trying to vape more" 😂
Can't smoke if you are too busy vaping... or are you? O.O
@@GloryBlazer Dual wielding ftw
Great conversation and really appreciated Jimmy's points of view. I think he makes sens and it's true LSD helps with mood, like for depression. Even if he is a character!
What a fascinating and forthcoming conversation. At some point trust was established and genuine sharing occurred. Dr K, your respectful questions built that trust. Jimmy has built his life in a way that makes sense and given his intellectual perspective, he will value this conversation. The compassion to have an open mind is essential to being human.