4-Link Rear Suspension for Air Ride and Coilovers
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2011
- Weld-in a 4-link rear suspension system onto any street rod chassis. Here, we are adapting RideTech's 4-link to a 1948 Ford pickup truck, however the process is very similar for most applications. We cover axle location, panhard bar fitment and theory and shock absorber angle tips. For more information on this universal 4-link system, visit www.ridetech.com/products/bol...
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love the diagrams. they helped heaps with what you were saying!!
I appreciated this installment quite a bit. Simple, straight forward and doable.
Wow, just ordered that set up for my '51 GMC....now fun begins for real...
Thanks for you guys and y'all's knowledge is on point!! Great work and quality information!!
Bunch of tips and knowledges from your video, cool fabrication ever with diagram which giving me more clear picture for fabricating. Thanks for sharing the video..and knowledge!!!
This is a good quality content. Nice work
This is a great introduction into the basics of setting up/fabricating a 4 link. I've got a project in mind maybe a year out of converting a v8 swap, fwd sports car to rwd conversion mostly for street/drag racing and this really helps give me some idea on how it can be done and what parts are available. Thanks.
New thing learned today 6:02 ....... “Longer the bar, leas sode to side movement”
Thanks a lot sir..... wanna learn much more..... respect
Good demo,we need more on this stuff on CZcams about 4links.
Building a v8 powered 73 super beetle, this video gave me an in depth explanation of everything i was thinking of! Thank you so much for your time!
the best video i've ever seen! GREAT!!!
Awesome. Love the diagrams.
Absolutely on point with information!
very informative.
took so long to discover your channel ;)
Helps a lot.
Thanks for the upload.
I like your keep it simple approach 👍
very nice information u helped me out with all my answers i had
I paused the video just to say i love you man for this helpful information. Now back watching
I appreciate that
Your welding machine works perfect....)
Awesome video very informative and to the point
Great video!! Keep it coming!!
Great work guys, very informative even for us guys in Australia. Some of the work were not allowed to do but yes love the clips.
what do you mean some of the work were not allowed to do?
@@rustyshackleford-uu2ny i was wondering that also
That's like saying all the Falcons in the country are not allowed. The rear is the same style as what's gone into this truck. 🇦🇺
Thanks a lot! Very useful!
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egy igazi szakember velemenyere lennek kivancs aki perfrekt az aire ride-ben muszki hiba eseten koszonom a sok jelentkezest
Nice video and explanation.thanks dude
God you guys made that look easy 👌
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Thanks guys. So so helpful.
Dang great vid, common sense, nice kit. Thanks.
Very good video guys! Keep up the great work.
great video .. cheers
VERY VERY GOOD VIDEO .GRREAT INFO THANK U SO MUCH
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Very Informative!!.....Good Job!!
Glad it was helpful!
@vcarreon17: Depending on the size of the C Notch, yes and no. By the looks of this C notch, they will either have to begin cutting into the bed or raise the floor of the bed. However, there do exist some notches which can be welded in which do not come up past the stock location of the bed floor. All depends on how low you want to go.
Very informative.
i like this vidéo ..good vidéo
Yeah, i'm thinking they previously found that ride height would be perfect when the top of the axle is welded to the frame, (must want to slam it on the ground)
@0:56 They have a spacer in place, so that must be a ride height they were trying out, but wanted it lower in the end.
So get your measurements and ride height set. Weld axle solid to the frame in ride height position (including pinion angle). Then fab up your link kit.
Just my guess. For what it's worth.
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Now how about a video on the front end!
Very good 👍🏻
ok look here @ the 1.37 mark of this vid. You have a drawing that shows the engine and pinion angle the same and even state that you want them parallel. Now you can have them paralle, but the angles can NOT be the same as you show in the drawing. They have to off set eachother. so if you have -3 for the motor you have to have +3 for the pinion. That is so important that if on the build the engine and pinion happen to be at the exact height you must push 1 pull the other. in order to create that off set.
Muy buenos videos amigos
👌🏼Thanks guys
Huh. No leftover parts but a missing digit on a hand. 🤔🤣😉 great video. Thank you
perfecte job :)
Awesome video! What are them threaded bush end part called? I’m looking for some as I’m trying not to use rose joint for the road to reduce noise. Thanks
good job thank.
Holy crap... Why'd you make that panhard bar so short? On factory applications like 82-2002 GM F bodies the bar runs from one rail in the unibody almost to the other end of the axle. Same on like an Escalade or Avalanche. I was thinking to myself "if I was doing this I'd go watts link" so you get no side to side movement (or minimal at least).
John Hartley they called a 5 link a 4 link; you expect logic to go with inability to count?
That track bar setup looks like it will make the rear end move side to side as it travels up or down.
Nevermind I commented to soon. I was right you covered that.
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do you have to use a different rear end for this i noticed you installed a new/used rear diff ?
Couldn't u do a lot
Of the centering up with the leaf springs still on? Maybe break it down to the main lead so it's more flexible. Just wondering if I could 4 link my jeep myself the springs are on top the axles maybe just remove the ubolts put the brackets on and weld
Fiat used a 4 link suspension setup with leaf springs in the 125 and it worked really well
how maybe just left up and right down?
it's still work? or broke the link?
sory for my english
Crazy question but how do u find ride height with out tires and rims? Cause i want the kit but I want stock body stance
Great work. Is a 55 chevy truck frame the same as a 55 chevy car?
Please tell us the tap size of the pan hard bar
Surprised you didn't put the diff mount for the panhard bar closer to the pass frame side to make the bar longer. Other than that, I want a kit then something to screw it to.
Looking at your setup the bar is near axle mounted parlle to axle but I want my slop shortie bars to push my rear free float around so I want my shortie bars 2 right & 2left gay pushing my rear around max movement.
how long are those link bars? i want to do the same setup
Why not angle the top links like a mid-70's GM coil rear suspension to eliminate the need for a panhard rod and cause the rear axle to move up and down in a straight line instead of an arc?
Do you offer a Watts-links system in place of the single pan hard bar for better side to side control?
would technically be 5 link the panhard bar counts as a link
Is the 4 link kit universal? Wishing to install on a 2005 ram
Looks like the panhard bar will take a hit before the end of travel.
Where can I buy the 1.125 x 219 round tubing ? I checked with Triple S Steel here in houston and they dont carry it..
An open hat channel is better for flexibility for the 4 bar, rather than tube which will not allow twist with different left right wheel bump motion... I understand the reason for using round shaft it's easy material to source, cut and fabricate...
That's a pretty mangled rear beam... I'm guessing they made sure the frame is square, but that beam is worrying. I'd have fixed that first before having a company come in to do a custom suspension.
Great job fella's. I have a quick question. Now you guys C-notched the frame, do you have to modify the bed after C-notching the frame?
yes
How do you interpret that into 4x4 world with spring ride and more articulation?
Great instruction. What would you recommend for an econoline pickup unibody? I’d like to lower a couple inches. Any suggestions?
not a lot of good options out there to lower these vehicles.
How can you set ride height with the axle pinned to the frame?
is it necessary to grind off some of that rust before welding?
Very. Also grind your surfaces clean
U set the ride heigh about 4 inches pinion angle at 3degrees and do u set the 4 link brackets at 3 degrees or at 90 degrees and 4 links at 2 degress thks.
I'm not sure what your thinking was regarding all the geometry set up with the axle welded to the frame when in reality it shouldn't you set pinion angle and all other angles when axle on ground with drive weight on frame at the height you want? Or have you assumed 0 is where it is at where it is welded?
I would love to know that as well
What's the highest amperage setting yall used on that mig gun
How much can an air bag twist and bend?? Like i mean if its not straight up and down. Can it inflate and deflate even if the back is not straight
Would love to know how much axle shift they're getting with the panhard bar from deflated to inflated
about 1/2"
@tmk5522 oh, so that was suppose to represent ride hight? seems pretty low.
The ideal set up currently dreaming: it up would b 2 coilovers per corner low range & high range both dialed in & if my low harvest the max rear push & limits the bump even better.
Good luck
Hi I'm in Brazil my name is Rodrigo and I have a Chevrolet blazer / S10 year 98 I would like to install the airbag suspension but here there is no professional to do this work I would like to know if it is possible for you to help me with yourjustice for installation in the front suspension and back
What abouth a73 chevy pick up ss454 are those brakets work and were to order and whats the hight
was wondering that as well. im kinda thinking they must be lowering the ride height and that c notch is gunna give them the clearance they need. but then again the reason im watching this is cause i dunno either :P
will this kit fit a 1979 ford f100
Why would they weld the axle to the frame first?
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that real shortie pan hard bars? moves the rear opposite way but "locates it/address here usually doesn't change. But if cornering u could cause rear to intentional kick into a turn on track that would b a good thing. If not f-ing going around in pntless circle
I should have done it that way building a race truck or 2 a few years ago
would have saved a DAY measuring by just tacking the tube in center. shakes head K>I>S>S method works best every time
You guys have the 4 link for a 57 chevy truck...? I'm in need of one and looking at options.
Hello!! You should look into our universal parallel 4-link: www.ridetech.com/store/weld-in-air4link-parallel.html
Give us a call if you have any questions; 812-481-4787. Thanks!!
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Every 1 is pushing 3 link but I needed to see a 4 link rear to decide for My/God self.
donde se pueden comprar las bolsas de aire
panhard bar hits the differential when is fully lowered
You could always add a bumpstop; since we don't drive anything while at full drop, it wasn't an issue during this build. Give us a call at 812-481-4787 if you have any questions; thanks!!
ridetechtv this video helped a lot witj my chevy luv. not the same truck but the setup is almost the same
That is why they mentioned you could bend the panhard bar to keep from hitting without affecting the geometry.
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panhard bars were fine with horse a buggy but a watts link should always be used
Yep, and mounting the panhard rod on top of the axle means an unnecessarily high roll centre = poor handling. Should be lower and as long as possible
PSk same as the axle line would be ideal
All depends on the persons . In high speed racing hving rear kicked into turn will give u more drift &grip & allow u to stay ON power while turning & races r won in pits & in the turns. Off road we want exact opposite widest track poss rear kicked opposite to direction we r big f-ing truck trying to turn or lockers trying to turn.
Better pinon control is key in off road setting. Easier I'll bet to use a bar come down off factory 4 link & switch it after market then go the other way & that is key w/jeeps customizing built into factory design.
Are you sure it was 11years ago
Is there a way to do this and not notch the frame? I don't want to cut my box apart.
It would require a bit more fabrication; give our guys a call at 812-481-4787 to discuss details! Thanks!!
Don't go as low.