The Maple Leafs Have Some Cap Issues + Were They Really In On Markstorm? | SDP
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- čas přidán 21. 06. 2024
- Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the report that the Toronto Maple Leafs were in on the Jacob Markstrom sweepstakes. Do you believe that? Then, what is Toronto going to do about their precarious salary cap situation?
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Jesse is dead on about Brad checking out everything. In his time with Calgary the Flames were linked to almost every big name out there.
Even with cap issues, just see how Leafs will still find a way to extend Marner 😅😂
Marner already has a contract for the upcoming season. There are no real major cap issues.
@@johnsummerhill8323 but....but Marner is the reason why they definitely have cap issues this upcoming season with his contract. They would have much better cap flexibility if he were to agreed to a trade. He holds all the cards here so if he wanted to screw with the Leafs he definitely could. It's going to be a rough ride for him if at the start of the season he is in the Leafs starting lineup though.
@@marconion What about Matthews? I think he would be easier to convince to move to an American team. He has a much bigger cap hit. And because he has term on his contract, the Leafs would get a team altering return in a trade. Being a UFA, no team is going to give close to equal value in a trade for Marner.
@@johnsummerhill8323 Agree, no team is giving equal value for Marner. They will get pennies on the dollar for Marner. All teams know that the Leafs want him gone. Not a good place to be for the Leafs. The return could get better if it is a sign and trade though. As far as Matthews goes yes i agree he is a more attractive asset to other teams. Definitely possible though but they just extended him. He would definitely garner a huge return. I just can't see that happening though. Marner is the piece that needs to move whether it is for a low return or simply for cap space flexibility.
@@marconionThe Leafs have said that they are going to try and sign Marner to an extension and Marner has said he wants to remain a Leaf. It will go the route Nylander took.
Leafs aren’t doing much as long as JT and MM remain
according to all the so-called experts, Leafs are signing every free agent - line up of 60 players and salary cap of 200m - and still won't get out of first round
Markstrom would have been a cheap add...at 4 million... opportunity missed to get a mentor for Woll.
Thanks boys for the interesting perspective 😊
I think the idea that the Flames won't trade with the Leafs because Brad Treliving quit has probably been overstated. I'm pretty sure, he is well aware of the odds of doing deals with Calgary so if he knew they wouldn't deal with him, I don't think he'd be trying. If he is, then he's stupider than I give him credit for which I just don't buy. Furthermore, in a hypothetical scenario, if the Leafs offered the Flames a "knock their socks off" deal then the Flames would be fools not to consider it.
The only way the leafs imorove this year is if some rookies really step up. Knies needs to take a big step. Topi Niemela needs to come in and be a factor. And Fraser Minten or Easten Cowan needs to make the lineup and be a factor. And the only one of those that somewhat likely is knies becoming a 25-30 goal scorer
The Leafs could not have traded for Calgary's goalie because Marner is on the team. They have to get that sorted out first. Had they made the trade with Calgary for Markstrom or even had it set up, other teams would have offered pennies on the dollar for Marner. They have to move one of the core 4 in order to move forward.
Matthews may be the one to move.
@@johnsummerhill8323ha 😂😂lmao...yea ok there bud
@@tylerjohnson8973 Player with term will get much more back than a player with only 1 year left on his contract. And since they usually win with Matthews out of the lineup ( including 2 playoff games this past year) , why not?
You can go over the cap during the summer.
They have 20M in cap, they're fine💀
Hyman scored more goals than Matthew's this year Inc. Playoffs and mitch is sipping Shirley temples at the country club
That’s not true, Matthews scored in the playoffs. They’re tied at 70 on the year.
No doubt about Marner though.
No one cares about Hyman or the Oilers.
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Look who it is! Mr. “Panthers in four or five,” himself! 😛
@@disinformationworld9378 aren’t you the same guy that called “Panthers in four or five?” Sounding pretty bitter there.
The thing about trading with the flames is, it’s not just the flames. I watched Brad be “in” on deals for a decade, he’s always in, he never wins. Every major deal over even just the last 5 years, “flames were in on (blank)”. This is Brads M.O. always in, never win
Extending Marner could be part of a sign and trade deal, so Marner can get an 8 year deal instead of 7 as a UFA. It’s the only bargained chip they have with the player. Think about it. Who’s going to trade FOR Marner a year out from UFA, without knowing they can extend him? If they can agree on a number times eight years, it could be an incentive to waive his NMC, to get an extra year guaranteed at his $12M+ asking price. He might waive his NMC for $12M extra.
I miss the days of * IF YOUR A GOALTENDER*
They should probably pay 60% of the cap to four players.
Also 00:18 Nobody minds the damn net.
The flaw in all this conversation is that the Leafs have no chance of winning the cup next year, no matter what move they make . They need to free themselves of that Tavares contract before they can move forward. The Leafs should have done what Philly did when they traded Carter and Richards in their prime.
I wanna know the offers before passing judgment. I wouldn't be surprised other teams just had better assets to offer
easy... robertson, gregor, lilligren and whatever is in the marlies that won't make a difference. they got a 1st rounder this year and a 1st rounder two years from now that is it for draft picks. So draft picks aren't going anywhere, just like they weren't going anywhere at trade deadline
100% agree. This upcoming season the Leafs are actually in a bigger cap hell than the last season. What will help? Marner needs to agree to a trade or this could once again be the same old same old. Marner holds the dagger here and if he wanted to screw with the Leafs he definitely could do that. On the bright side though the 2025-26 season is looking promising with the Leafs having much better cap flexibility with many players coming off the books but........ they also currently do not have a #1,#2,#3 and #4 draft pick in the 2025 draft.
You guys act like all trade rumours are full on trades.. this isn't iginla to boston but actually Pittsburg.. chill out, for all we know markstorm was given the choice between new jersey and toronto and he chose new jersey
Leafs almost made another mistake but dodged a bullet. Markstrom is too old, too expensive and too inconsistent. Even the best of goalies can be unpredictable, look at Bobrovsky who was a brick wall in games 1 to 3 and then pulled in game 4 ????, Now heading for game 7.
Save some $$$ and go with a good tandem for Woll like Brossoit or Stolarz. Give Hildeby a chance! Juuse Saros would be great, but due to cap space this year can the Leafs afford him and still address the other open wound at the blue line.
The Leafs are done for another season. Bumping up the cap hit of the core four is beyond ridiculous.
Cap goes up and the Leafs actually get worse. 🙄
Leafs don't have a 2025 1st, they traded it to CHI for Jake McCabe.
Marner will not get traded.
Agree. No way Brad trades him w Berube now behind the bench whipping them all into shape.
@@tunertransformationreturns9497Surely running it back for the 7th time will work
😂😂😂 The core fours 3rd coach yup im sure thats the answer
after a couple games with out the no contact jersey he has worn since juniors he be asking for a trade
@justjohnny420 remember, don't throw the baby out with the bath water 😊
They can, and they will.
This is a year the Leafs need to give the young guys an opportunity to see what you have in the pipeline. They get a year of NHL experience. Save cap for deadline. Lots of cap space next year.
what is in the pipeline is nothing but bring up, play for injured players and send back down. Du(m)bas gave the pipeline away remember. They need to build up that pipeline again. If Marner stays, there is still no cap space next year.
The leafs have no hope 😂😂😂
Flames no longer have any thing the Leafs want so doesn't matter. How ever if Conroy comes calling. If Treliving doesn't immediately hang up. Any thing out of the Leafs organization starts at at Least Two first round picks and goes up from there.
I wouldn't go that far. Guys like Weegar, Andersson and Backlund would be useful players here.
Leafs always think they have the upper hand to demand salary retention while giving up next to nothing - the most hilarious organization in pro sports.
Leafs should look into trading minten. Value would be good for him and I don’t think he’s as good as people make him out to be
They didn't have the Cap to sign Markstrom so NAH.
goes back to the gery leman for Doug Gillmor trade
Over 54 million on core 5
I don't doubt that Marner will be traded. However, if he is, I don't think Leafs fans are going to be happy with the return based on what I see a lot of delusional fans expecting.
Well said Steve, it is monetarily impossible to improve this team, considering the over committing path they are on. The cap increase is more then spent already. Bert wants more, Domi wants more, and on and on. This path they are on is so disappointing. The over paid top have no intention of winning the cup. Next year Knies is due a raise, bye bye Knies. Its been nice developing you. They are so stupid
Knies is an RFA, he’s not going anywhere. Leafs still have 18 million to work with, lots of cap space to improve the roster. Forward core is going to have to be ELC’s
You are right, two years left, but due a substantial raise after. I just think they keep shooting themselves with the giant contracts.
Yeah, lets talk about the leafs during the playoffs. Like the guy says at 1:07 or so, its a profound waste of time.
Steve is still traumatized by the MLH SaudiSteve thing.
Marner for Saros
Marner and ? For Dobson and Sorokin
Marner and? For Thompson and Theodore
Trading Matthews makes more sense. They usually win when he is out of the lineup, including the 2 games he missed in the playoffs. He has term on his contract, had a good year and would bring back more than a player that is going to be. UFA at the end of next season.
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Man that dangle is a serious child
Because of what, him being right?
It’s either Tavares or Marner one has to go. In my opinion, it should be Tavares. It’s not that he’s not a good player. We just can’t afford everybody and that’s that we need defence and better goaltending.
Its both or you just get the same no depth team
Run it back, run it back, run it back........the comedy is too good pass up.....Leaf fans will go mental....till the 4th liner is signed as the new saviour....or the 5/6 Dman comes to save the team.....or the back up goalie......same story...same results coming in another Shanascam year.
great another second rate goalie
We can and we will ruin the leafs
Greedlynder
Almost evert team us somewhat tight to the cap. The Leafs still have enough cap space to add players.
Signing other teams cast offs is not going to make Toronto a contender in the playoffs….the last 7 years have proven that
@@richardhayling4339 All players available from other teams are castoffs.
@@richardhayling4339All players , other than draft choices brought up through a team's farm system, are castoffs.
They dont have enough to have a deep forward group and fix the defense. You can make the semantic argumwnt about cast offs but that doesnt address the actual issue. They are too top heavy up front and have a weak defense group. @johnsummerhill8323
@johnsummerhill8323 nice trying to use a technicality but you fully know what I am getting at this team as it stands has no chance of making it out of the first round
Steve really needs to calm down.
It's pro-sports, have fun!
I always wonder how much of this is just hamming it up for content vs if he believes half of what he is saying. Normal doesn't cut it in content land
But it's all Mitches fault...
that is the stupidest thing everyone says, its du(m)bas' fault he thought he was building a basketball team instead of a hockey team