How to PERMANENTLY Disable Auto Start Stop

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  • čas přidán 17. 01. 2017
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    One of the most infamous features on a Ford vehicle is the Auto Start Stop feature. Now that the 2018 F150 has this standard across all engine choices so there is no getting away from it! This video shows you how it works, and also how to get rid of it forever! Leave your questions below...
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  • @Guillotines_For_Globalists
    @Guillotines_For_Globalists Před 6 lety +56

    There should be an option to disable it in the menu, just like traction control. I seriously dislike any feature that takes choice or preference away from the operator and/or owner!

  • @177SCmaro
    @177SCmaro Před 4 lety +179

    Auto companies tell us for decades that the most wear on an engine occurs during starting then someone gets the "brillant" idea to start adding a feature that shuts off the engine at every stoplight to eke out a tiny bit more fuel economy. Brilliant.

    • @majormctater232
      @majormctater232 Před 2 lety +22

      All a part of them intending on their vehicles not lasting forever so you have to come back sooner

    • @R1Kyle
      @R1Kyle Před 2 lety +14

      It is damage at start up after being parked for extended periods of time... The oil settles and drains off areas it would have a film of protection on.

    • @sylentxtinction2097
      @sylentxtinction2097 Před 2 lety +7

      That used to be the case, because of flat tappet lifters. That isn't the case anymore. Only if the engine has been stopped for hours, and oil has drained away from the friction surfaces.

    • @W42PZ
      @W42PZ Před rokem +2

      *when cold! 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @TheSaintberzerker
      @TheSaintberzerker Před rokem +3

      Then they try to come out and tell us this doesn't hurt the engine at all.

  • @daveamburgey9937
    @daveamburgey9937 Před 6 lety +363

    Check the cost of a new starter + labor. Screw the gas savings

    • @Rock7132
      @Rock7132 Před 6 lety +7

      Yeah, manufacturers NEVER thought of the starter with this feature... There haven't been any issues across the board with starters due to start/stop.

    • @Rock7132
      @Rock7132 Před 6 lety +3

      Start/stops have been on vehicles for more than three years. There haven't been any issues.

    • @johnturner9924
      @johnturner9924 Před 6 lety +1

      jldude84, are you ignorant, you are making up a problem with this feature added to the F150 that has been around for 6 years without issue.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 Před 6 lety +8

      jldude84
      Don't buy a Ford if this feature upsets your delicate mental balance . Obviously you cannot handle change very well , did mommy abandon you at a young age ?

    • @redtra236
      @redtra236 Před 5 lety +16

      I have a 1966 F250 and we have a 1983 F250, 1989 Cummins, and 1999 F350 in the family and that's it(Although the '83 is currently down and needs major work). That 5 year warranty doesn't mean much most people keep their trucks for 10+ years.

  • @mdubiansky603
    @mdubiansky603 Před 7 lety +124

    It absolutely does not save you "big". The savings is minuscule but just like vehicles made to burn E85, manufacturers get a credit for including this trash on their newest models. They're doing it for the credit, not because it will actually save you any notable amount of fuel.

    • @stevecampbell7620
      @stevecampbell7620 Před 3 lety +3

      Correct this is the "game" car manufacturers have to "PLAY" to stay in business. they can't just build a vehicle and sell it. They have to get approval (permission) from countless Gov. Regulatory Agencies before they can build a car and sell it. No matter how ridiculous it is. So the Virtue signalers can feel good they we did "SOMETHING" to SAVE THE PLANET. czcams.com/video/VNxNgfVzAvo/video.html "The planet is fine" George Carlin.

    • @scottjordan8912
      @scottjordan8912 Před rokem

      So you're one of those misinformed individuals that likes to ramble BS about E85!

    • @PC4ever
      @PC4ever Před 19 dny

      The government mandates that all car companies comply with climate change agendas.

  • @crlaw75
    @crlaw75 Před 7 lety +551

    Not a fan of auto stop/start.

    • @tommytruth7595
      @tommytruth7595 Před 6 lety +28

      It is stupid horsesh--.

    • @AnyManProjects
      @AnyManProjects Před 6 lety +9

      Get ready... all gas cars and trucks will have this very soon (government mandate)

    • @conservativeamerica9655
      @conservativeamerica9655 Před 6 lety +21

      crlaw75 can't be good for the starter!!

    • @AnyManProjects
      @AnyManProjects Před 6 lety +9

      It's a different high torque fast starter. Hybrids have been using stop start like this for near 20 years and rarely have to replace them. I think it'll be ok. Plus, I just programmed my 18 F150 to not do that anymore :)

    • @DehnusNorder
      @DehnusNorder Před 6 lety

      Aaah, all the same argument as the downsize engine arguments. Even though those little 1.0's keep camping along as they have been designed with being small and a turbo in mind! (Not the other way around, adding a turbo to an engine that's not designed for it). You guys really hate your wallets do you? :P

  • @geminikuan
    @geminikuan Před 2 lety +14

    This is up there with the same tactic as Apple intentionally slowing down your phone every time you install a new update. Their aim is to wear out your engine fast to ensure you buy a new car every few years. It's all about making their bottom line as rosy as possible. Dealerships love it too.

  • @amindnew527
    @amindnew527 Před 5 lety +16

    Sweet, once i see your truck, im grabbing that trailer connector! no more start / stop, thx bro!

  • @philliphall7985
    @philliphall7985 Před 7 lety +164

    I own a 2015 with this feature. It save no noticeable amount of fuel and is quite annoying in stop and go traffic. The button should be permanent on or permanent off. That would solve everyone's issues. BTW, plugging in a trailer light tester disables your rear parking sensors, so that's not a great option.

    • @simonheavlin3668
      @simonheavlin3668 Před 6 lety +20

      Phillip Hall yeah because how would anyone EVER be able to back in or park a pick up truck without parking sensors?????

    • @blackwar12
      @blackwar12 Před 6 lety +12

      I have never owned a vehicle with rear parking sensors, so if you know how to drive, you really don't need those rear parking sensors. they are just a convenient feature. I'll take that trade off of disabling a a very annoying feature that puts unnecessary wear and tear for a convenience feature.

    • @Sig721Tau
      @Sig721Tau Před 6 lety +2

      Phillip Hall
      Maybe, you have a lead foot. Lol

    • @username-mc7jw
      @username-mc7jw Před 6 lety +18

      Phillip, I too have a 2015, and I have permanently disabled the auto start-stop 'feature' on mine. What YOU need to do this is FORScan Lite www.forscan.org/home.html and this BT OBD Scan Tool www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006NZTZLQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Don't skimp on the Scan Tool. This one WILL work. Others may or may not. Using FORScan, you will be able to toggle the bits stored in the vehicles ECU that control many, many features... including the auto stop-start. This will permanently disable it for you. I have had mine disabled for more than a year now using FORScan, and I can attest that there is absolutely no effect on overall mileage. Once you start playing with FORScan, you'll find so many other cool things you can do with it like enabling 'bambi mode', disabling the horn chirp when locking doors with remote, even enabling remote window open-close using your stock Ford key fob!!! FORScan is pretty awesome!
      Now, I take you back to your regularly scheduled program of total retards making useless comments regarding your truck's backup sensors and your driving abilities...

    • @juanzingarello4005
      @juanzingarello4005 Před 6 lety

      I know some BMW dealers will offer to reprogram the button to default in the previous state at owners request. The reason they default in the ON position everytime you start your car is because otherwise it won't count when CAFE standards are concerned. But hey. I don't mind the extra procedure. Start car, buckle seatbelt, shut off engine stop/start, place into drive, release parking break. Now when you pull a GM and remove the OFF switch, well guess what. You aren't getting my business.

  • @djhinton570
    @djhinton570 Před 6 lety +13

    I like the option of turning the ignition to off if I want to. Came standard for years. Other ways to save fuel, go easy on acceleration and anticipate red lights.

    • @leecowell8165
      @leecowell8165 Před 8 měsíci

      Exactly. Try learning how to DRIVE! Also saves on brakes AND wear & tear on the drive chain. Its called smooth driving AND your observant passengers will appreciate it as well.

  • @chrisdaniel7751
    @chrisdaniel7751 Před 5 lety +14

    The auto stop and start is such a pain. So now we have to "trick" the system by making it appear a trailer is connected...and you get to see that message every time you drive. HATE this feature. Driving a company vehicle but I will never buy a vehicle with this on it. Government regulations imposing unwanted, worthless, and cumbersome processes.

  • @marks619
    @marks619 Před 4 lety +1

    Ingenious solution. I had moved a switch under the hood but had to put it back in place when I took the Jeep to get serviced (warranty concerns). This works great and extends the four pin connector when I need to use it. Thank you!!

  • @nosoupforyou425
    @nosoupforyou425 Před 6 lety +66

    I do not want to save .20 cents of petrol at the expense of my starter, battery, electronics, alternator, etc.

  • @davea4037
    @davea4037 Před 6 lety +7

    Ford informed me that you lose 3 of the 10 gears when a trailer is connected on the 2018s, so that means that while it's a nice idea, it's definitely not worth losing 3 gears to permanently disable the feature.

  • @veholic1
    @veholic1 Před 6 lety +71

    I'm all about saving gas, but I want the engine to live as long as possible and I do not like that it drops out the oil pressure every time it auto stops. Watch in the video where he accelerates and puts load on the engine before oil pressure is up, how can doing that doing that 10 to 20 times along the commute not going to cause premature wear?

    • @larrybe2900
      @larrybe2900 Před 4 lety +5

      The engine is designed to hold oil in the top of the engine longer so there is still lubrication.

    • @Kamal_AL-Hinai
      @Kamal_AL-Hinai Před 3 lety +7

      Planned obsolescence.

  • @RealDude
    @RealDude Před 6 lety +2

    Purchased a vehicle without start/stop, but find this video very interesting and informative.

  • @jlautomotive6349
    @jlautomotive6349 Před 2 lety +2

    What a cheap and ingenious way to bypass the AST but the fact that you lose your lines and anyone could steal that from your truck I’ll stick to hitting the button but love the channel!! Keep up the great work 👍

  • @iasimov5960
    @iasimov5960 Před 4 lety +4

    I dislike the Auto Start Stop feature. To me it represents a solution to a nonexistent problem. However, I could live with it better if its default setting was 'off'. I could see it would be handy in a traffic jam or in construction areas where lengthy delays might justify shutting off the engine.

  • @karlwills3549
    @karlwills3549 Před 6 lety +27

    save gas ? ,car goes through near No Gas at idle

  • @colg7351
    @colg7351 Před 5 lety +2

    I’m not a fan of this on my wildtrak however your video explains a lot of unanswered questions I had 👍

  • @markgennaro153
    @markgennaro153 Před 6 lety +13

    Great video! However, what you failed to mention was that when the trailer hitch is connected, your backup lines don't work anymore in conjunction with the camera . All you have is a camera view of the back of the truck. Those backup lines that project the path of your truck are really nice and you will miss them. As much as a pain in the neck that it is, I suggest you just press the button.

  • @nickmolloy7492
    @nickmolloy7492 Před 6 lety +47

    OEM’s fit this feature to meet exhaust emission requirements. It’s not for the consumer’s benefit at all.

  • @michaelmeier3919
    @michaelmeier3919 Před 6 lety +120

    More uninformed internet crap. You insert the trailer plug and the computer goes into tow mode. Shift points change, fuel economy drops a bit, trailer sway control is enabled dropping the MPG a bit more. Backup camera does not function. Rear proximity sensors are disabled. Just jump it out as shown on multiple video's.

    • @curtkautsch
      @curtkautsch Před 5 lety +9

      good point, typical salesman having the wrong answer, just to make a sell.

    • @HugsBach
      @HugsBach Před 5 lety +2

      People who tow should have been able to put their input but, the saving grace is our mutual commentary on CZcams. How many people know to grease their hitch balls? Something that isn't passed on to new trailer owners. IMHO

    • @slbynum
      @slbynum Před 5 lety +2

      USA#1 !! I could not agree more! Pushing a button on the dash is no big deal in fact if you hate stop/start it so much, pushing that pesky horrible button on the dash will become a habit and you won’t even think about it after a while. Next thing you know folks will complain about having to use energy to crawl into their truck or car.

    • @bobmillard8921
      @bobmillard8921 Před 4 lety +1

      @@HugsBachThere's no need to put grease on the hitch ball! Use a one foot section of wax paper folded twice and place between ball and hitch when hooking up. Works perfectly and you don't have to deal with the greasy ball rubbing on your leg every time you're near it!

    • @user-cn3pf5fv6c
      @user-cn3pf5fv6c Před 4 lety +2

      I just pulled a single connector out. The whole process literally took about 15 seconds. It drives like a regular vehicle now.
      www.f150forum.com/f118/disable-auto-start-stop-seconds-406110/

  • @XChaoticComposerX
    @XChaoticComposerX Před 6 lety +1

    this is the MOST USEFUL video!!! Thanks. :)

  • @joncombest11
    @joncombest11 Před 6 lety +85

    But you also failed to mention that when having something plugged into the trailer light plug, you lose functions such as back up assist, blind spot detector and backup sensors.
    They should really have an option to manually turn it off under settings instead of having to push the button every single time.

    • @evanwindom3265
      @evanwindom3265 Před 3 lety +2

      And the winning comment is...
      You're 100% correct across the board.

    • @TheCentralflorida
      @TheCentralflorida Před 3 lety +1

      I was wondering if anyone had mentioned this. Very important

    • @CannonFodder873
      @CannonFodder873 Před 3 lety +2

      They could also pop the auto start/stop switch out and jumper it so it automatically defaults to OFF instead of ON, when starting the vehicle. (you'd need to remove the jumper to turn the feature back on)
      Took me 5 minutes...and you have ALL trailering, back up and traffic assists still usable. 😎 2019 5.0 Lariat FX4 CrewCab 4x4

    • @patl8363
      @patl8363 Před 3 lety

      Plus with the trailer plugin it records how many miles of towing you do in your history. May not be good for resale later when you have 80000 miles and 60000 towing miles.

    • @garretthoffman8475
      @garretthoffman8475 Před 3 lety +1

      Forscan. CZcams videos describe whats needed

  • @mstngken
    @mstngken Před 6 lety +191

    the savings in gas is total bs

    • @tommytruth7595
      @tommytruth7595 Před 6 lety +14

      Start Stop is nothing but total bs.

    • @Tshizzle42o
      @Tshizzle42o Před 6 lety +27

      It does save gas but imo its not enough to justify the system. I think the starter will fail prematurely costing you way more money than you eill ever save in gas.

    • @Rheisler1475
      @Rheisler1475 Před 6 lety +12

      lol only saves a couple cents per weak.. totally stupid tech

    • @gord2358
      @gord2358 Před 5 lety +9

      Best way to save gas is don't drive it. Leave it parked in your driveway.lol

    • @spacemarine40k
      @spacemarine40k Před 5 lety +3

      Mine never turns off and on in time to be useful.

  • @samkendall8471
    @samkendall8471 Před 7 lety +23

    I'm glad I have a 2015 f150 xlt ...that start/stop feature would get on my nerve...lol..

    • @Bladerunner4924764
      @Bladerunner4924764 Před 5 lety

      I have one and it's got it.

    • @Allen-yv3ue
      @Allen-yv3ue Před 3 lety

      I was thinking of getting a new truck - not now, will keep my XL 2015 with out it

    • @gnatbutter100
      @gnatbutter100 Před 3 lety

      @@Bladerunner4924764 me too, 2015

  • @ninawade3055
    @ninawade3055 Před 4 lety

    Thank You you did a good job explaining the auto stop

  • @Outdoors.with.Ricky_P
    @Outdoors.with.Ricky_P Před 3 lety

    Thank you for this!

  • @marcaliventialiventi765
    @marcaliventialiventi765 Před 6 lety +15

    A friend BMWs start-stop. Failed nightmares trying to fix. You are not saving that much in fuel by having the engine on and off

  • @sho-meraptor6506
    @sho-meraptor6506 Před 4 lety +4

    I’ve got an ‘18 Raptor. I just unplugged the bottom plug under the left side of the dash on the drivers side. Cured.

  • @Courtnabees
    @Courtnabees Před 4 lety

    good info and good video thank you!

  • @chriswright8464
    @chriswright8464 Před 5 lety +2

    I'll keep my 2011 Ranger! Old School and I love it!

    • @mtibbe
      @mtibbe Před 3 lety

      I'm keeping my '56 Ford F100. Engine is super easy to work on. None of this computer crap.

  • @SlurpRooster
    @SlurpRooster Před 7 lety +23

    RIP Starter Motor

    • @mertz313
      @mertz313 Před 6 lety

      Because the engineers at Ford didn't think of that, huh?

    • @thestig8768
      @thestig8768 Před 6 lety +4

      They didnt think of carb deposits on intake valves when they went direct injection and turbos

  • @JohnTucker
    @JohnTucker Před 4 lety +16

    There's a better way that doesn't cost anything. It involves unplugging the black module that controls two things: 1) trailer lights/signals, and 2) the auto-stop/start. The only caveat is to be sure to plug it back in if you're going to pull a trailer. In the F-150, this module is under the dash and just left of the steering column. There are three modules stacked vertically. The bottom one is the black one that you want to pull.

    • @philtucker1224
      @philtucker1224 Před rokem +1

      Hi John! Best wishes to you and your branch of the Tucker dynasty 😁

    • @JohnTucker
      @JohnTucker Před rokem

      @@philtucker1224 Same to you, Phil! 😄

  • @jorgemorales4131
    @jorgemorales4131 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the help!!!🤗

  • @heavenlymaker
    @heavenlymaker Před 6 lety +3

    Appreciate this info. Just purchased a 2018 F150 and the auto on off is annoying and hazardous. I sometimes forget to turn it off. I have had the truck turn off while positioning in the suicide lane trying to merge into traffic and while backing into a parking space. It was curious to me the feature should not engage when the steering wheel is turned. In both cases mentioned the steering wheel was turned. I'll run some more tests on the feature operation whilst the steering wheel is turned and report to my dealer if needed. Will pick up the part as suggested regardless.

    • @02hreblue30
      @02hreblue30 Před 2 lety

      pull third black plug under steering wheel dash. easily reverses. did it 3 years ago. flawless

  • @taylormoore3121
    @taylormoore3121 Před 5 lety +3

    My only fear with auto stop start on Eco-boost is if your turbo or turbo's are hot and it needs oil circulating to cool them. Will the Propulsion Control Module take turbo temp into consideration or will it allow engine shutoff causing a heat soak which can burn your oil effectively reducing the engine oil life? And to all the nay sayers....engineers do account for excessive starter and battery use with this feature. It is also tested to ensure serviceability into the future.

    • @timc2219
      @timc2219 Před 6 měsíci +1

      they test to ensure durability thru warranty period :( you have maybe the MOST valid point here- turbo aftercooling /constant overheating-rapid recooling at restart can be nothing but bad...great point i'd never thought about.

  • @georgewashington938
    @georgewashington938 Před 4 lety +20

    engine stops and oil pressure goes to zero, then when you go the engine is under load before oil pressure has come back up. won't that cause excessive engine wear?

    • @scottjordan8912
      @scottjordan8912 Před rokem

      You really need to research the topic if you don't know the answer to that question. The answer is NO, by the way.

  • @Ali-wg7xt
    @Ali-wg7xt Před 7 lety +1

    Another issue in this feature is when you live in countries such as GCC where the temperature is between 104 to 122 for most of the year and people don't get out of the vehicle while waiting for someone or even for loading or offloading items and they need the AC to stay running for people setting in the vehicle... The disabling feature is must.

  • @ramcity2540
    @ramcity2540 Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing video thumps up 👍

  • @displayfireworks1
    @displayfireworks1 Před 6 lety +4

    2:02 that noise scared me. Hurt my neck also. LOL

  • @ammcpq1
    @ammcpq1 Před 7 lety +13

    Would be interesting to see if by having the tester plugged in, if the shift points would change in the truck as it 'thinks' it has a trailer, especially on the 10 speed box. Or is that in tow/haul mode only?

    • @matthewhartup941
      @matthewhartup941 Před 6 lety +2

      I sell for Jacky Jones Ford.. If I'm not mistaken it's automatically puts the transmission in tow/ haul mode when you hook up to trailer brake lights.. Im going to try this on my 16 F150 this week to verify that, and then hook it up on the 2018 I am trading for this week.

  • @johnwells7931
    @johnwells7931 Před 6 lety

    I absolutely love my Ford ranger sport it's been the best truck I've ever owned by far !!

  • @k.r.v.4219
    @k.r.v.4219 Před 6 lety +1

    All I know is the system in my Jeep Cherokee V6 4x4 works very well! In heavy bumper to bumper traffic it definitely helps save gas! When the engine stops you can barely even sense it never mind feel it happen. When it restarts its quick and quiet, with little to no feeling.

    • @AStanton1966
      @AStanton1966 Před 2 lety

      We have this on my wife's 2017 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. She leaves it on while driving and when she does, I cringe at traffic lights when the motor shuts off and the headlights stay on.

  • @timc2219
    @timc2219 Před 6 lety +5

    just a guess, but doesnt trailer mode also increase shift points, enrich mixture for cooler running, decrease oil condition monitoring hours, etc? pushing the button or tuning it out might be better

    • @douglinn1583
      @douglinn1583 Před 6 měsíci +1

      You must select trailer mode on the shifter to make that happen.

  • @aipo86t
    @aipo86t Před 7 lety +266

    Another reason to keep your older cars.

    • @devn3813
      @devn3813 Před 6 lety +7

      aipo86t or to not buy a ford

    • @myroadtours6147
      @myroadtours6147 Před 6 lety +14

      Auto Start-Stop isn't unique to Ford. It started with high end imports and is slowly making it's way to domestics etc.

    • @matthewhartup941
      @matthewhartup941 Před 6 lety +3

      Right, that way you don't have to worry about auto start stop on your 03 Malibu huh

    • @matthewriordan-solidaxlesa5810
      @matthewriordan-solidaxlesa5810 Před 6 lety +5

      Midwest Mopars it’s on everything not just fords

    • @anthonymolina7416
      @anthonymolina7416 Před 6 lety +4

      matthew riordan ford and chevy are the only reliable American car companies fca is crap

  • @daveyburgess
    @daveyburgess Před 7 lety

    A friend of mine recently came into town and rented a car which turned out to be a brand new Ford saloon with this auto-engine-off feature. The problem he faced was not knowing his way around, so he set up his GPS on the windshield and plugged it into the cigarette lighter. Every time the engine shut off, so did the cigarette lighter, the GPS powered down and he had to reprogram the destination when it powered back up!! What a PITA!!!

  • @COBHC8890
    @COBHC8890 Před 5 lety +1

    This is why I still own my (according to everyone) outdated Nissan Frontier Pro 4x!!!! No cylinder de-activation, no start stop, and no overly complicated electric garbage. 😁

  • @sporttracxlt
    @sporttracxlt Před 3 lety +3

    On the 2919, if you go into your dash settings. You can disable it there

  • @AKJeeper
    @AKJeeper Před 7 lety +27

    I want to see what the starter looks like on a model with start/stop. Seems like it cranks over faster than a normal starter.

    • @TCcustoms_
      @TCcustoms_  Před 7 lety +7

      That is true. The starter and battery is beefed up to support hits feature.

    • @prestonstreebin2298
      @prestonstreebin2298 Před 7 lety +3

      AKJeeper it's the same idea of a hybrid car engine starts and stops all the time. now I do realize hybrid set ups are way different my dad has a hybrid Lincoln mkz the engine doesn't even drive the car. the wheels have electric motors on them the engine just keeps the charge on the massive batteries. but so does the tesla.... so I see what your saying but ford's not dumb they know the strain on the starter and designed it for that reason. Fords testing vehicles way before anyone knows they learned alot of lessons over the years. and still #1 sell truck for 35 years.

    • @prestonstreebin2298
      @prestonstreebin2298 Před 7 lety +1

      AKJeeper it's the same idea of a hybrid car engine starts and stops all the time. now I do realize hybrid set ups are way different my dad has a hybrid Lincoln mkz the engine doesn't even drive the car. the wheels have electric motors on them the engine just keeps the charge on the massive batteries. but so does the tesla.... so I see what your saying but ford's not dumb they know the strain on the starter and designed it for that reason. Fords testing vehicles way before anyone knows they learned alot of lessons over the years. and still #1 sell truck for 35 years.

    • @AKJeeper
      @AKJeeper Před 7 lety +3

      I wasn't arguing whether Ford engineering was good or not. I just wanted to see what the starter looked like, and whether it was physically different than the non-stop/start trucks.

    • @prestonstreebin2298
      @prestonstreebin2298 Před 7 lety +3

      Oh your good just explaining what most people don't see. My buddy who works at an after market shop bought one of these and he had analog gauges and computers connected to his truck and drove from nebraska to Florida and back on a family vacation to see how it acts and in my opinion these trucks are going to be a huge advancement in the future in fuel economy. Just hope I do not eat my words in 2-3 years when stuff starts to fall apart.... but my buddy is old school he bought the truck for his wife. He still drives a 1976 f250 with the 460 haha. So he's old school and he was impressed.

  • @lesliewood4154
    @lesliewood4154 Před 5 lety +4

    Mine is a 2007 I'm happy with the turn of the key to start it up☺☺☺☺☺☺ They should discontinue making the push button they are more trouble then key ingnition start ups!!!!!

  • @blackericdenice
    @blackericdenice Před 6 lety

    Thank you very much. Just bought one on Ebay for $4.39

  • @elvispelvis5268
    @elvispelvis5268 Před 5 lety +8

    At least flywheels are easy to change...they just mount with Velcro right ?

  • @demagab
    @demagab Před 6 lety +48

    I'm used to turning it off in my car. It's like part of the turning on procedure to me.

    • @ransomsmith3815
      @ransomsmith3815 Před 3 lety +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Same here

    • @julianb3309
      @julianb3309 Před 3 lety +2

      Same here! The only time I turn it back on is in the drive through, I have a mbrp dual side exit exhaust on my truck.
      czcams.com/video/n7KF8RtopzQ/video.html

    • @BalrogUdun
      @BalrogUdun Před 3 lety

      Same but my wife doesn’t

    • @ryanrasmussen6746
      @ryanrasmussen6746 Před 3 lety

      Same!

  • @johnsamuel3698
    @johnsamuel3698 Před 6 lety

    good deal thanks for info

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Před 7 lety +1

    That's kind of funky! How does a "trailer connected" situation affect other vehicle parameters? I think just hit the button each time you start to disable it. I do that with traction control on my Mustang and after a few times it just becomes part of starting up the car. Not much different than adjusting the climate controls.

  • @G8GTJav
    @G8GTJav Před 7 lety +12

    Well, hopefully the auto start/stop logic on the switch can be reversed with computer programming. Wouldn't feel comfortable accelerating from engine off mode like you did due to low oil pressure. Wonder if this feature will cause main bearing failures down the road. Ford should just add an eco-mode for people that want the auto start/stop feature. Should be off in all other modes. GM did that with the AFM on the Corvette.

  • @gregbaird7582
    @gregbaird7582 Před 5 lety +3

    After reading all the comments here I must say....
    I never thought there would be a time when the truck driving crowd so desperately needed backup sensors.

  • @islanderson691
    @islanderson691 Před 7 lety

    hey thanks for the info video, any way to get the outlet plug in the 2016 f150 to stay on while key is in accessory I don't want to keep my truck running while using the outlet all the time I understand it's a safety features was just wondering

  • @abpob6052
    @abpob6052 Před 4 lety +1

    I have that feature on my new 2020 F150. I don't mind it except when it is really hot outside and you need the ac on max. When the engine turns off the compressor also stops spinning so the air will get warmer quick.

  • @haywire17
    @haywire17 Před 6 lety +6

    I own a truck because I LIVE IN THE COUNTRY. If i VISIT the city it might be nice to have the feature ON, but since FORD has decided it SHALL NOT BE up to the driver to turn it off until they want it on (Instead it is shoved down their throat" every time they start the truck), I have chosen to defeat mine by bypassing the switch in the dash PERMANENTLY. My gas mileage hasn't suffered even 1/2 of a mile per gallon. It's a worthless "feel-good" feature. If I had experienced different results (actually saved gas), I would have tried to find a "latching" switch to replace the "momentary" one used by Ford.

    • @musashironin1531
      @musashironin1531 Před 5 lety

      How do you bypass the switch in the dash. I'm about to buy a new SUV that has this Damn thing. I don't want to have to remember to turn it off every single time I get in to drive.

  • @lonniestilley8382
    @lonniestilley8382 Před 5 lety +7

    Personally I think it is a stupid design because if you know anything about mechanics you know that more than 50% of your engine wear begins with startups so Penny on the dollar that you're saving and fuel will not cover the cost of premature wear of constantly starting and stopping

  • @dcar9079
    @dcar9079 Před 7 lety +1

    If you just take the time to learn the pressure point of the brake pedal that engages the feature, you can just fully brake then ease your foot back as you come to a complete stop and the truck does not turn off.

  • @guy2860
    @guy2860 Před 3 lety

    THANK YOU!! You just saved me $115 because I was getting ready to order the start/stop Genie and now I am on my way to Wally world

  • @Wildicon19
    @Wildicon19 Před 6 lety +4

    You can go into the vehicle's settings and find the start stop function and uncheck it in the settings! No mods needed! Vid up today!

    • @spol1622
      @spol1622 Před 3 lety

      Not every car has tat option.

    • @cmrayment
      @cmrayment Před 3 lety +1

      It doesn’t stay off. It comes back on when you turn the truck off and on again.

    • @Snakekilla54
      @Snakekilla54 Před 3 lety

      Can you do it on the 2020 F150?

  • @lostinmyspace4910
    @lostinmyspace4910 Před 7 lety +9

    I agree it begins with government mandated fuel economies, but excessive wear and tear on not only the engine, but the transmission too with fluids suspended to it. I like the dummy towing plug method best so I don't have to tear my instrument panel apart to disable that silly feature. There isn't any real appreciable savings with the start/ stop feature. At a four way stop, it takes 10 seconds before you move again. There's no savings. At a red light, hardly any there. Going to McDonalds, two minutes tops. It's a stupid engineering myth that there's any appreciable savings vs. wear and tear on the motor. And besides, hearing that stop/start feature really grinds my gears. Can't stand it!

    • @TheBlankJoker
      @TheBlankJoker Před 3 lety +1

      Government regulations is the same reason why Farmers are buying more older equipment than the newer ones. Farmers don't have time for a shop to send someone out onto the field to try and fix it or have to get it towed out of the field and into a shop. And the effects are usually neglectable.

  • @jordandibell1146
    @jordandibell1146 Před 5 lety +1

    Plug a trailer tester in continuously is just opening your terminals up to water/ salt and just going to corroded your trailer plug so instead of replacing a starter u will just be replacing that. Brilliant

  • @hughd7636
    @hughd7636 Před 7 lety +12

    How much gas does it save ? And it seems like their are a lot of sensors that could fail on this technology. Also isn't it killing the starter motor ?
    Thanks for the video. I don't know too much about this but thanks for the heads up on how to defeat it.

    • @jonetech5324
      @jonetech5324 Před 6 lety

      They have a special starter

    • @jeffthomas6242
      @jeffthomas6242 Před 6 lety

      They come with a heavy duty starter and battery.

    • @PumpkinKingXXIII
      @PumpkinKingXXIII Před 6 lety

      jldude84, probably will notice more when it wears out and costs a lot more to fix it

    • @Wildicon19
      @Wildicon19 Před 6 lety +1

      You can go into the vehicle's settings and find the start stop function and uncheck it in the settings! No mods needed! Vid up today!

  • @EmeraldXV
    @EmeraldXV Před 4 lety +8

    3:10 for how to

  • @georgewashington938
    @georgewashington938 Před 4 lety

    thanks for the simple method of disabling the feature (decent stop gap, but not great for long-term)

  • @jetdr
    @jetdr Před 3 měsíci

    All you need to do, under the steering wheel just above the brake pedal, there is a white rectangular block with a few plugs, the bottom plug (small black two wires) unplug and it's disabled. 10 seconds, just when you tow, hook it back up, it controls the trailer brake lights.

  • @ericsolberg8812
    @ericsolberg8812 Před 3 lety +3

    The power steering totally gets affected and can be a huge safety issue

  • @alanlinforth7461
    @alanlinforth7461 Před 6 lety +4

    The reason stop start was developed was mainly to cut down pollution when not on the move

  • @natehawkins2910
    @natehawkins2910 Před 6 lety +1

    "...it will save you Big on gas" if only you could prove that statement! Aux Electric water pump, aux electric transmission fluid pump (inside the transmission case) and vacuum pump all have to be added to this truck to make this possible. Tons of extra (made in Mexico, Philippines and Korea) stuff to break!

  • @mikeswink9331
    @mikeswink9331 Před 6 lety

    Using the trailer tester will also turn off the backup sensor's beeper. This a good thing if you are backing up with the tailgate down or if you backing a boat trailer down a ramp with the lights unplugged.

  • @tjmakings
    @tjmakings Před 7 lety +66

    just another thing to go wrong and it's a truck you don't need all these stupid things on a truck. Your starter won't last that long.

    • @EdwardJamesBickels
      @EdwardJamesBickels Před 7 lety +6

      Auto Start/Stop uses a much more heavy duty starter and battery for the repeated starts.

    • @rbrooks1305
      @rbrooks1305 Před 7 lety +14

      please note the Heavy Duty Starter costs over $100 more than a standard starter when it does go bad. So much for saving money on gas. PAY ME NOW OR PAY ME LATER...I prefer to just buy the extra 3 gals of gas per year.

    • @zerkfiter
      @zerkfiter Před 6 lety

      +R Brooks 3 gal a year. .you killed me

    • @tommytruth7595
      @tommytruth7595 Před 6 lety +1

      And wait until you have to replace them, Edward. $$$$$$$$

    • @terryfoster5446
      @terryfoster5446 Před 6 lety

      Wrong, TJMakings, these trucks are equipped with a heavier starter and battery, designed for this feature. Read your owners manual.

  • @cameronschindler25
    @cameronschindler25 Před 5 lety +5

    The only time I’d use it if I leased the car and I would’ve turned the car back to the dealership before I need a new starter

  • @ProDigit80
    @ProDigit80 Před 5 lety

    Does it affect highway RPM (final drive gear) on newer models having 9 or 10 speed gearboxes?

  • @tangle70
    @tangle70 Před 6 lety +1

    How much gas does it save? Also what is the excepted life of the starter? Also, if you are at one the 5 minute stop lights we have where I live, will the AC continue to keep you cool in 100 degree temps?

  • @donaldnewton5852
    @donaldnewton5852 Před 7 lety +6

    If you have a Raptor, just keep it in sport mode. No auto start/stop

  • @HondaCummins
    @HondaCummins Před 7 lety +12

    Unless the engineers figured out a way to keep oil pressure while the engine is off this is a terrible idea. And since pretty much every engine uses a mechanical oil pump, one would assume vehicles using this feature will overall experience premature engine failure compared to the ones not using it. But hey, you're saving $18 in gas every year so when you need a short block in 4 years you'll have that $72 you saved as a down payment on a $6,000 bill.

    • @joshcooper1000
      @joshcooper1000 Před 5 lety +2

      HondaCummins no need for oil pressure while the engine is off lol

    • @dougiequick1
      @dougiequick1 Před 4 lety +1

      oil will still be warm and everything drenched for the couple minutes until restart ....I don't think it will cause significant wear like cold starts do ....still sucks but imagine that is well thought out at least

  • @Garrettb214
    @Garrettb214 Před 7 lety

    just wondering, would a 4 pin trailer light tester work for this too?

  • @MrPLC999
    @MrPLC999 Před 4 lety +1

    Just disconnect the ground side cable from the auxiliary stop-start battery. No more stop-start. You will get a check engine light and a code. You will want to reconnect the battery and clear the code before visiting the dealer or doing a smog check. You could even install a heavy duty switch to conveniently turn that battery on or off. If it's disconnected for a long time, it may lose charge and that can give you the same code. Use your OBD scanner occasionally to ensure the vehicle is not generating codes for other reasons.

  • @dylansmith1261
    @dylansmith1261 Před 4 lety +80

    I’ll just keep pushing the damn on/off button every time I get in

    • @dewrus2153
      @dewrus2153 Před 3 lety +3

      I use Auto Stop Eliminator (the OBDII version) and love it.

    • @michaelmiddleton2427
      @michaelmiddleton2427 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dewrus2153 Would you mind explaining to me what the OBDI version of the auto stop eliminator is and approximately how much it cost? Thanks in advance. I appreciate your time

    • @dewrus2153
      @dewrus2153 Před 3 lety +3

      @@michaelmiddleton2427 - Certainly. AutoStop Eliminator sells two different items that make "off" the default setting for auto start/stop (instead of "on"). They have one version where you pull the dash trim off, unplug the start/stop button and then plug in a little pig-tail between the factory connector and the button. The other option is a dongle you just plug into your OBDII port. The OBDII port option is nice because it's easy to install and remove if you want. The pig-tail version is nice if you wanted to leave your OBDII port open for some other use like a tuner, code-scanner, data-logger, etc. They are both about 100 bucks (although if you search, you can find online coupon codes for 10% or 20% off). Here is the link: www.autostopeliminator.com/ You can go there and find your make/model and it will tell you the options for your application. I hope this helps!

    • @michaelmiddleton2427
      @michaelmiddleton2427 Před 3 lety +2

      @@dewrus2153 Thank you very much. That helped a lot! I really appreciate you taking the time to explain the difference between the two options and for providing the link as well. Thanks again!

  • @kylewilliams5471
    @kylewilliams5471 Před 6 lety +7

    I wish I'd have taken the time to notice start/stop (took it on a long test drive with very little stopping so start/stop wasn't even brought up) I would've bought a Ram probably. If I spent $53k on a truck I shouldn't have to do anything to it in order to not be annoyed by it. I wish I could return it.

    • @Wildicon19
      @Wildicon19 Před 6 lety +1

      You can go into the vehicle's settings and find the start stop function and uncheck it in the settings! No mods needed! Vid up today!

    • @MainMatK
      @MainMatK Před 3 lety

      @@Wildicon19 Hey Crimson, can you be a bit more explicit as where that setting is? I have one of these trucks, paid a fortune for and would love to know how to do this. I don't live in a big city where I have a lot of stop and start. It's very useless for me.. thanks in advance sir..

  • @tomgarges7045
    @tomgarges7045 Před 3 lety

    Brilliant !

  • @jasonman1515
    @jasonman1515 Před 5 lety +1

    I already had 4 f150 truck with starting issue where the truck won't crank. and another truck having engine repair due to that feature. instead of doing what the guy did to bypass, we however add a jumper wire in the back of the switch to deactivate. Then you don't have to worry about someone possibly stealing that $20-30 or whatever it cost and the jumper wire just cost only cents to do.

  • @dc76384
    @dc76384 Před 5 lety +12

    Save gas...but ruin your engine. Brilliant

  • @dodge-io7gd
    @dodge-io7gd Před 6 lety +5

    stupid feature wont ever buy a car that has it. i bought a new truck this year and ford was not considered due to this idiotic start stop.

  • @chass6166
    @chass6166 Před 6 lety

    Will the trailer lite detector work across all Ford's with the tow package? 2018 Escape 2.0L AWD for example.
    Texas temps in summer hit hi 90's
    The,auto/stop-start works over time st stop lights/traffic.
    The feature is get in winter I do lije that .
    But summer it is not efficient. At least here in Central Texas

  • @JaceJackson
    @JaceJackson Před 6 lety +2

    Or you could just buy a $30 forscan obd 2 tool, download forscan and turn it off through the program. This doesn't void the warranty as the are factory selected parameters that the dealer can do for you. If you want you can have the dealership turn it off for you but that'll cost you $80-$120 depending on how much an hour of labor is for them.

  • @philipschillaci168
    @philipschillaci168 Před 4 lety +16

    Does Ford offer a lifetime warranty on the starter motors?

    • @ocvipe
      @ocvipe Před 3 lety +1

      Nope

    • @NoonMight
      @NoonMight Před 3 lety

      I’m not sure, i know the auto start/stop had problems with the 2015 and under models after awhile, but I’ve been told the 2016+ f150’s have a better time with them, the engines of the 2015+ are a lot cleaner anyways.

  • @johnwells7931
    @johnwells7931 Před 6 lety +47

    wouldn't it be nice to go back to old school cars with new technology without onboard computer nonsense

    • @johnturner9924
      @johnturner9924 Před 6 lety +4

      no

    • @stereolababy
      @stereolababy Před 6 lety +2

      see a shrink

    • @draconas109
      @draconas109 Před 6 lety +2

      some of the "computer nonsense" actually helps you not get into accidents, look at ABS, ESC, ect.

    • @gregoryfaulkner5345
      @gregoryfaulkner5345 Před 6 lety

      Yeah a great form of population control [sarcasm].

    • @Booboobear-eo4es
      @Booboobear-eo4es Před 4 lety

      @@draconas109 - Welcome to the nanny state. Perhaps you should move to China or N Korea where your life is micro-managed on all different levels.

  • @matthewjohnson9361
    @matthewjohnson9361 Před 6 lety

    I've made a habit of hitting the off button on the auto stop/start in my '16 Focus EcoBoost. I love that little 1L 3cyl turbo! Will ford dealers do a reprogramming to smooth out the surging under acceleration? And also to tighten the shifts on the 6 speed auto? Covered under warranty?

  • @FordBossMe
    @FordBossMe Před 3 lety

    Actually if the battery voltage drops below a certain threshold a few times it disables until BMS is reset and no aftermarket parts are needed

  • @kevinbreese5739
    @kevinbreese5739 Před 6 lety +3

    The good thing about this feature, is the truck has a much heavier duty starter and battery. It's an extremely minor annoyance sometimes and I often turn it off but sometimes I forget...no big deal to take a half a second to push a button. The trade-off for the upgrades starter and battery is worth it, plus it will save a little at the pump.

    • @roby14
      @roby14 Před 10 měsíci

      theres a seperate battery for the Auto stop start feature.

    • @timc2219
      @timc2219 Před 6 měsíci

      not on a for 3.5 anyways... we had 4 in the family, 19-22s all 3.5s, all single battery. only one that ate a starter (and a battery 2 months later) was youngest sons- he used the auto stop/start... I was surprised its just a normal starter/flywheel... a few more years, bet theres gonna be folks facing 4-5000.00 cab offs to replace flywheels. we saw ZERO mpg differences with that son's and the others- only difference was oldest son's fx4 had higher numerical ratio, he was always down about 2 mpg... but the start/stop? I truly think it was another planned obsolescence thing. of the 4 we had, my 19 and oldest sons 19 both had bodies off , my 19 had dash out twice...love my 19, but wont lie: its been in the shop more than all vehicles ive had combined the last 40 years...great driving trucks- stupid expensive/difficult to repair... the cabs were built easy to pull, but jeez- you gotta have a 2 post and 15' ceilings to swap a engine when timing chains jump, and about half the techs pull cabs just to do phasers- so easy to botch the job trying to squeeze in and do in place, facing a redo... oldest sons got a crate engine(body off) after a botched warranty phaser job resulted in a sudden broken chain cruising down the highway not even 1k miles later... great vehicles when they work, nightmare engineering snafus on fords part though... the phasers/ten speeds/ac plenum cracks-leaks/stress related glass exploding... theyve got many many things that long term are gonna ruin any residual value... flywheel ring gear wear from the 20x normal startup wear or whatever is gonna be a thing coming up on a lot of these I bet... I'd suggest forscan'ing it off or hitting that button if you plan on long term ownership...its only gonna cost you money :( @@roby14

  • @jamesmurphy3415
    @jamesmurphy3415 Před 5 lety +9

    Sure start and stop is great for a "new" car once the engine starts the show age that stop start will be great fun ... but of course we should be buying a new car every 2 years right (sarcasm)

  • @kerrylogan2978
    @kerrylogan2978 Před 3 lety +2

    Perform a tank of gas MPG comparison by using the Auto Start/Stop feature and then during the next tank, using the same routes and usage, have the trailer light tester hack installed. That would provide us with a real life comparison showing that the MPG savings using the Auto Start/Stop feature is not worth the wear and tear on the components.

  • @alanspring8462
    @alanspring8462 Před 5 lety +1

    Pretty nifty idea 😊♡

  • @tawanawashington1263
    @tawanawashington1263 Před 7 lety +3

    When you plug in the trailer socket, it disables your backup camera and/or your backup sensors. I put in a separate toggle switch located near my right knee, which connects to the white and black wires of the disable switch. See other videos how to disable auto off on permanently.