Why Doctors are Scared of the Pediatrician
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- čas přidán 18. 07. 2022
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I always tell the doctor “pretend I don’t know anything”.
Smart move 😂😂
“Pretend”
That is the reason I don't immediately tell other doctors as outpatient that i'm a physician. I usually only tell them at the end of the visit or at the 2nd or 3rd appointment, or if they ask me. If I am in a medical consult, it is because I want advise from an experienced professional, not because I want to be quizzed.
Can't agree with that either. If you are a physician you should mention that. Saves a tonne time.
I introduce myself, and add that, I am not familiar with this disease. I always hate it when doctors don't disclose, I feel betrayed 🤣 when they do tell after multiple visits. Counseling, monitoring, decision making, everything could have been so much smoother.. not to mention the time! My time!
Just tell them you're a psychiatrist.
I'm a pediatric resident and cornering your fellow physicians like that is pretty shitty:p
I pretty much assume that doctors know jack sh*t about kids:p I mean don't ask me about Wolff Parkinson White, cause I'll be stumbling like a fool as well....
@@drkrishnap That’s kind of weird to take it personally when it’s someone else’s private life..
I once worked a side job as an after hour advice nurse. I will never forget one call. I was talking to the parent who bashfully admitted “Both my husband and I are pediatricians”. When it’s your own precious kid you can never be too confident.
So with your own kid you aren't confident, but you are confident about other children,why?Are other children's lives inferior to your child lives?That you can talke others children's lives in your hands but not yours😒 pathetic
One of my most embarrassing moments as a pediatrician in the newborn nursery in residency was when I didn’t know that the baby’s dad was an IM attending. I explained as if to s kindergartner, “The amount of sugar in your baby’s blood is low and has not responded to oral liquids. We have placed this little tiny straw into her vein so that we can give her sugar that way.” I was mortified when I figured out he was a physician!🤷🏻♀️
I wouldn't know how embarrassing that is but that was perfect to help me (a mother of current 4 month old) understand what you're talking about. You earned my trust if my baby needed that.
I'm not a doctor or medical professional.
As a fellow pediatrician, that's amazing! 😂😂😂
Yeah uh I had a daughter in the NICU
I graduated High School & tech school.
Dont explain it like that
The more simply and clearly a doctor explains something in laumans terms, the more I trust them. They know their stuff, have moved past the new learner jargon stage and can think about how family members are feeling. Keep it real and simple and families will thank you, if they want to know more, they can ask.
@@iyaayas There's nothing embarrassing about it. That's a job done well. we're expected to not use medical jargon with patients and you did just that. I'm sure that's why the parent didn't say anything either.
I've gotten some practice with saying, "I have not done any work related to or thought about this topic since grad school. Please explain it to me the way you would to anyone else."
Same
Most people are reluctant to admit that they have gaps (everybody has gaps), and that's why they end up pretending that they know, and then - above scenario happens.
If I'm seeing a doctor's baby, I'll explain everything, only difference being I'll use medical language, without abbreviations at least initially. Actually I think that them not mentioning that they are doctors is even worse!
My husband is a doctor and we just had a new baby. The pediatrician found out and she was quizzing him on the physical exam findings. Luckily, he got everything correct. (He's a surgeon not a pediatrician for anyone wondering).
I feel this is super rude.
@@shirinkester6856 yes, let new parents be new parents
@@shirinkester6856 It's ignorant and mean. People can't remember something they learned years ago and haven't used since, plus medicine continues to evolve.
Yeah.. I'm a ped myself, i would never do that. I avoid abbreviations the first time i say, I'll say well she has patent ductus arteriosus or PDA, and if you recall, we would expect a continuous murmur and she has it. Like that. I'll be conveying the points but not exposing their knowledge gaps. Asking a surgeon to auscultate and find the murmur would be plain rude and cringey. Absolutely unprofessional.
Aw man I can imagine how embarrassing this would be 😂😂. They have to remember that even though you’re a doctor you specialize in something different so you could always use a refresher 😅
As doctors this also applies when seeing other specialties as patients ourselves. It’s also true that we make the “worst patients” because we think we know better, but we do not 😂
Half of us graduated never even knowing the pediatric milestones lol. I crammed it in the night before every single test and never referred to it again.
Used the word erythematous with my son’s pediatrician and now I can never go back to that practice :/
I remember being pregnant with my oldest and the doctor saw in my chart that I had been pregnant before, so she said something along the lines of "But you've done this before, so I probably don't need to go over that." I had to point out that my first pregnancy ended about 1 day after I found out I was pregnant. I hadn't really been through any of it before.
Omg I’m so sorry. :(
Facepalm
Wonder who wrote the notes! They mentioned the GPL score wrongly and that's why the obgn was confused.
My great aunt is a retired physio therapist, something her physio therapist is unaware of and she will take that secret to the grave if she must.
I work at a pediatric ER referral hospital as a nurse.
The rule is that the parents are there as parents, not physicians. So I treat them as parents.
That said, if one of them has a medical background then I don't explain simple basics like SpO2 readings.
However, one of the other rules is that length of time before the parents informs you they are a physician is directly proportional to how well things go. In other words, if they walk in wearing scrubs with a hospital ID badge, then they're gonna be a know-it-all pain in the ass. Whereas, if it casually comes out after ten minutes of history taking and physical exam, then everything should be alright and we can figure it out together with no problems.
But I hate it when it comes out after a day of IP. That's the worst ones, they are testing all of us
As an L&D RN I have had patients who were doctors, although rarely OB doctors. I always explain things the way I would to a non- medical patient. I did have an OB resident once, but still explained everything fully. It's usually a whole new experience for docs to be the patient, especially if they haven't done OB since med school.
My mom always said it's different when it's your own kid so she pretends to know nothing. Poor doc!
Seems like everyone would be best served by the pediatrician saying “I know you’re a doctor too, and I don’t want to waste your time, but I also know your not a pediatrician and what we know and remember from med school rotations vary, so I’m happy to answer any questions, refresh your knowledge, or offer my opinions for care if you’d like. I know if I or any of my family needed a [insert other doctor’s specialty] I’d be lost, I haven’t learned anything about your specialty since med school!”
Also, come on doctors, use this opportunity to flex your “humble” muscles! Saying “I don’t know, I need to refresh my knowledge/ learn more about this, can you help me/ give me your opinion?” whenever you can only makes you a better doctor for your patients!
If everyone knew everyone else’s specialty then… there wouldn’t be any point to a specialty, would there!? 🙃
thats what we do in real life. thiswas meant as a joke
Yes! But since when are doctors humble!?
Saying "I don't know" isn't being humble, it's just routine day-to-day stuff. Doctors don't know loads.
Doc Schmidt, this is hilarious. It made me bust out laughing at dialysis
Thank you!
That's not a sound they are use to hearing in there😸😸😸
Not a parent or doctor. I have a B.S. in zoology (many, many biology courses!) and if I feel the doctor could use bigger words with me, I tell them. And they do. It feels good to hear terms I’m capable of understanding. If I don’t, I ask for clarification. Don’t be afraid to speak up and say you don’t understand. You can avoid potential problems that way.
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and this is why ER doctors are supposed to treat other doctors as if they have no medical training when they first come into the ER
the reason for that is twofold, first because you don't want to treat people differently in the ER based on their class, and second because if it was something the patient doctor could handle alone there's a high chance they wouldn't even be there
Never assume someone knows this kind of stuff, except maybe when it's their specialty, but even then it's only a maybe.
The pediatrician has an obligation to fully review all options, in detail, with the physician parent and spouse, even if they fear insulting the MD. However, in real life, I've seen this scenario play out many times....sigh
Lol!! I'm gearing up for surgery and you still made me laugh. Doc, you're one in a million. Hug that baby and have a good week!
Haha lol I am a pediatrician, we don't do this- but I thought it hilarious
I'm a paeds nurse and I get this everytime I see my doctor haha. Pretend I know nothing- I deal with little peoples haga
Peds*** paeds is not a word
@@AT-yj8gl it is a shortening of paediatric which is the correct English spelling of the term before Americans butchered everything. Get off your high horse.
Ugh yeah it is. Pretty much anywhere that’s not the US. So presumptuous…
Would you pull me up for my spelling in words like colour or aluminium too?
@@AT-yj8gl I'm in Aus where it is spelt paediatrics so yes it is
Ahahaha
This is basically me and my dad. He is a surgeon, I am studying pediatrics and we have a battle royal everg evening over my mom's ER patatients
😅 Love it! I like knowing that I can always say that I don’t know everything ❣️
Bahaha ... Ya that'll be me. Ya I remember some things as a need student/resident but I've forgotten more than I learned in pediatrics.
Aww I hope your kid is ok 👌
(Also don’t worry, Paed peeps are so nice!)
Even as a nurse, this happens to a certain degree. Especially with other nurses.
I didn't told my dentist that I am also dentist and he started selling me treatment and even made up some things. I refused for some, told him at the end of my 3rd visit. He was mortified. Now I only see specialist, don't tell them either but somehow all of then found it out in first visit and asked me if I have any background in dentistry.
First off, hilarious as usual. Second, my nurse status gets noted pretty quickly from the terminology alone. I do say that I am a nurse though. The only reason for that, is that medical terminology is easier for me to understand than the overly vague statements they make to non-medical folks. The many healthcare people that I have cared for over the years, the terminology is the only thing that changes. No one wants to try and remember shining schooling from many years ago when you are sick, tired, scared, and/or in pain.
I told my primary care not to order x ray for my ligament injury,
not becaused i am board certified to know x ray is not even good for identifying early fracture ,I said no
because I don't want to copay 500 dollars for x ray due to crappy insurance .
Else i am up for useless test 🙃 got dme strap from Amazon.
Will save up for getting mri once I complete Fellowship and make specialist money
Ive had a PhD once assert that he was a doctor and he was my peer. That visit lasted well over 45min 😒
I get confused easily because in my first language, "physicien" is for physicist and "medecin" is for physician
All Latin languages: *frustration*
When my daughter broke an ankle the consultant was quizing her on the related anatomy.(2nd year medschool at that time, her medschool is 6 years) this was early morning after the 5 hour traumatic rescue from the base of a cliff for a severe break. When a person is under personal stress is not the time. Whether they be the patient or parent. Treat them, tell them things you might think they should know, maybe they do but adrenalin has wiped their brains rn.
A few weeks later an ortho surgeon family friend gave her a much deeper quizing and educating but by that point her pain was under control and she was back in Uni, a totally different scenario.
New guidelines that I haven't seen 😂😭🐔
Let’s give it up for the IM/PEDS docs 😎 Best of both worlds 🤣
This is the same way I always get nervous talking to my kid's teachers. They're like "yeah you know where she's supposed to be at" and I'm like... Do I? >.>
I have a master's in biology and I sometimes get a minor version of this. I focused on cellular and molecular biology 😒
I'd be a little scared of that pediatrician as well!
So don't have kids, but when would this follow up be where you are talking 6 and 12 month milestones, and if it is considered a "patent" ductus arteriosus doesn't that imply that it is already past the several days to a few weeks that it would normally take to be fully sealed?
PDA at that age is treated based on symptoms and if the child is asymptomatic the most pragmatic approach may be observation until the child is big enough to have a percutaneous closure which is much safer and has lower rates of complications.
Yessss.. the passive aggressiveness sets in after few sentences 😎😎😎
Congratulations on becoming parents! Get as much sleep as you can when you can. Your mind and body will thank you for it.
Step exam😮
I thought it just me ..lol
DocSchmidt: any comment on Dr. Deborah Birx? The efficacy of the vaccine?
LOL!!!
Lmao!
Congratulations! You’re gonna have a kid but you’re a doctor so you’ll be fine.
Pathologist: …. Yeah, if the kid dies before I do.
Edit:
Radiologist: Only after the kids born.
Oncologist: *sweats nervously*
Heuheueheu
We love our kids pediatrician and office! My family doesn’t wear masks and they always work something out for us if one of the kids needs to be seen. Just did all three kids wellness checks two weeks ago.
Why are you proud that your family doesn’t wear masks? And why do you feel the need to spread that on the internet?
@@charlieh9725 Because wearing a mask is a ridiculous counter measure for preventing the spread of SARS-CoV-2 in healthy individuals.
@@SuperJoker167 how so?
@@charlieh9725 Choose a city, county, state, or country that required a mask. Start at the date where masks were first required and see if there is any positive effect on SARS-CoV-2 cases in the timeframe after. Graphed out in the majority of cases you wouldn’t even need a trend line to make a conclusion. You can also find examples of places(Oregon) that had long standing mask requirements that surged in cases during that requirement.
@@SuperJoker167 Its just i have to wear surgical masks when i am in the OR because it’s proven it lowers the amount of bacteria and virus that enters the air from our lungs or pharynx. So I was just wondering why you think Covid is different to other viruses?
And also why you refuse to wear it, even if it’s ineffective why would you not wear one? It doesn’t hurt you.