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Useful Battle Tips #1 | Head On Dogfight Bait | War Thunder
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Music: Blitzkrieg OST - Empty Houses
Four things to remember:
- Stay below or at the same altitude as Your enemy
- Don't shoot on head-on
- Turn around in front of Your enemy
- Make sure Your enemy has a chance to take a shot at you.
Risky but usually works. A good way to eliminate faster planes / passive players out of the battle.
If You liked this, You may suggest what tip I should present next time, for example "how to evade on head-on". I'm open to suggestions.
Good tips
Kurde, i was abouth to ask you Question abouth combat. U damn mindreader haha, dzięki i dobranoc.
Maybe: "how not to be a d*ck in air rb" video? ;)
@@siemeknumberone how not to kill steal? xd
@@smigoltime how not to kill steal, how not to climb to 11km in bomber, how not to play shit bomber at all, how not to press start then be afk for 30mins... I've got a lot of ideas for u :D
**roll underneath his gun to avoid fire**
My pilot being unconscious at the first 3G force: **crying in gaijin**
XD gotta upgrade dem crew
@@smigoltime hey could u do of how to play bombers? Just got the b29 and I don’t know how to use it I mean I know get as high as u can and if someone is coming for u close the game but more than that I don’t know
@@turklander69 as an b29 owner who some how spaded it using the 10 free repairs (2of those repairs where spent because of an accident ) , getting a 7.3 game is or best bet , il tell u why , first of all climb , ur a b29 ur best tactic is climbing make sure everyone is under u , if u get a game wh3re bases can be destroyed so u can hit the airfield , tell ur team mates in b57s or a2d1s to destroy the bases , focus on climbing yourself , ur best alt is 7.000 meters , now if an enemy jet approaches u , spam 50.cals in his way , NEVER and i mean NEVER let ur AI gunners do the work , by the time they open fire ur opponent will be in a excellent position to open fire and hit u , now back to where i said that 7.3 games are the best , this is because early jets don't like to climb , the enemies is mostly going to fight actual fighters and then focus on bombers , and jets in that br are early so they dont have a strong climbing ability , also they will try to get under u to climb , u can use ur manny defensive gunners to hit them , even if u don't hit them they will be spooked and try to dodge costing them speed and energy , and if u do hit u will probably hit an engine which is vital to an early jet causing them to slow down or retreat to repair , u dont have a blind spot as u can fire in all directions , but the worst defensive spot is to ur sides and u dont have side gunners , u still have those turrets above and under the aircraft but its kinds hard to fire .
now if and enemy is the same al as u , don't try to out climb then , all ur doing is slowing yourself down and making yourself a bigger target, make the enemies go behind ur tail , u will have at least 6 50.cals firing , which can cause either fuselage dmg or engine dmg or maybe a lucky pilot snipe / fire
fly an me262 yourself (which is your most common enemy around that br ) or if u don't have it test drive them , see how they barely gain speed or energy after turning .
@@mouhibgh6928 whoa thanks bro best of luck in ur next game and in ur life if u wanna play with me my is is abduzdash hope we could play together, gotta tell u I’m not good at all
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2:36 -> 2:45 OMFG THAT ENGINE SOUND
One thing you forgot about this all: you need to have a lot of energy in case you'll need to maneuver more than once or twice. Even maneuvering two times against MiG lost you quite some energy and if your enemy knows it, you'll be in a very bad situation when they have speed and energy while you have none of either
That is why You try to keep them as close as possible, otherwise they will extend away and keep BnZooming. Like I said, only inexperienced/average players will fall for this. Tbh there isn't much else a slower, but better turning plane can really do.
@@smigoltime I use the Zero to do this. I occasionally meet an actual good player, but I normally manage 3-4 kill games if I play it right. Even experienced players fall for it in a Spitifre, 190, or 109.
Bf 109: the fastest climb rate in the west
spacefire **block your path**
Spitfire LF : 6km? thats cute
@@ariq4209 Ki-83 wants to say hi :)))
J2M3 on the moon
Mig21:...
Bonus tip: if you're in a BnZ aircraft and the enemy is agile enough to turn out of your sights, for the love of god don't turn with them
I've seen 1 enemy get 4 kills because my team of FW-190's thought they could turn with a spitfire. Then I dove on him with my 109 and ended it properly, by BnZing, not by dogfighting
The biggest 2 things to successfully BnZ-ing are
1. Know your limit, play within it
2. Be patient. If you need another pass, pull off and set one up.
FLAT SPIN LAND MAUS PLES I BEGG
DID SOMEONE SAY FLATSPIN????
Flatspin : switch off instructor, 0% throttle, level off flightstick, counter-rudder (ex. Flatspinning to the left, rudder to the right), if the spin started to slowing down, pull down and only throttle if you're out of the spin
Lol, I love your guidance. Everyone trying to use this trick in front of me were dead. It waste too much energy and put yourself in a passive position. If the attacker following the rules of energy fighting, he will just simply bait you maneuver up and you will loose all your speed. If you don't follow his bait, you also loose a lot of energy. You just make yourself a sitting duck.
Okay, you might read this might not, but I think you should cover energy management guide on how to use energy in a rolling scissor, because many people (and I mean, a lot) overshoot their targets, also explain how going slow (sub 300 at like 3.7-6.7) won't make you turn better etc. Right now I guess this guide was meant for more experienced flyers, but if this becomes a series, it really should be a bit more (really, just a tad bit more) idiotproof. Regardless, great video, well and briefly explained a tactic all expert pilots use.
Most headons I do I usually spam rockets at the enemy. So far only worked twice against 2 phantoms while using the F100. Pretty disappointing.
Do you have fuse range set on them?
One time I caught an enemy up close and mid bank-turn and I shot three rockets. I lead so much with them that I thought I would miss but I didn't, I hit them smack dab in the center of their plane and they split apart and it was totally epic.
Please make this a series! I always have a hard time in Russian planes that don't have a lot of ammo or particularly effective cannons. The one thing that kinda saves me is energy retention during maneuvers...would help if I knew more about how to handle it.
Wow. Such a useful video to get rekt more in. Man I suck in Air Battles. (Fighter)
The other problem might be that my Crew is just absolute crap when it comes to pulling G’s. Yeah, I’ll blame that.
1:25 ah yes make him FELL, have a good day smigol
can't wait to see more of these!! I've been really trying to learn mechanics of what to do besides some pretty basic stuff that's intuition based more or less. Hopefully these will help out cause everything else I've seen people put out is a lot of technical explaining and such and it befuddles me but this was easy to understand.
Most of the maneuvers shown in this video is something I use on the regular in both the Zero to great effect, and the F-16 in DCS also to great effect. Just useful maneuevers to engage with minimal damage, and get on the enemy's tail.
lol, enemy just can merge and start climbing using his speed (I’m doing this on my bf 109)
Ah, that blitzkrieg ost brings back a lot of good memories
So basically:
1. Put yourself in a disadvantaged position
2. Be better than them
When I fly planes with powerful armament I usually also shoot s hort burst from 2/1.5km, if you're accurate you can get a lot of kills by doing that, expacially with stealth belts. It's also very satisfying!
amazing tutorial, would be great to understand the staging of the flaps too.
If you're the BnZoomer, the best way to counter this is just never follow the enemy in any maneuvers. If you have speed and acceleration over your opponent just don't follow them when they try this. They'll burn all their energy trying stuff like this, and you can easily get away. I'm not saying this is a bad video don't get me wrong, but at the end he says more experienced players won't get caught up that easily and this is what he means.
Lovely how most players want to turnfight like it's only thing they can do. Spitfire F Mk.XIVe while not really awesome turner is great for defensive flying. Roll under them and do some cheeky vertical maneuvering stuff and they're toast :P
If a plane has excellent roll rate (relative to your foe), and has ok climb rate, and you can lose speed like nobodies business, you can defensive fly it. Pretty good example would be a fw190 against a p47/p51, yak3, la7, and sometimes mk9 spits. It is really important to know your opponent's energy compared to yours tho.
Blitzkrieg, szanuję bardzo.
Thank you for the tips. Sadly when I get into a dogfight next I will panic and forget all of this :)
this guy remind us, that faster plane and get faster than the enemies was not the only solutions to win a dogfight
i like it :)
I always pretend like I'm going to headon, then break off about 1-2km out, when they start shooting, then force them into a turnfight. It normally works if they're not someone who has played war thunder for a while. It's so fun baiting spitfires and 190s with the American A6M2
These are great! Keep making them please. Also do you stream on twitch? If not you should
I dont, my internet wouldnt take it xdd
Smigol Time! Rip the dream
When the MiG 3 was chasing you and you entered into the second scissor maneuver, he didnt pull up and chase you into that scissor so you could take some space in the loop and drop behind him. Would this only work if they don't chase you at that specific point?
The MiG was finished the moment he made the first turn tbh, if he pulled up, I would've still caught him. His only escape at that point would be diving away. And if You ask if this works only in a 1 v 1, no You can take more than one enemy, but it's way harder. Same goes with every maneuver pretty much.
As soon as im about to start tutorials everyone else seems to be doing them too lmao, nice to see you spreading some great knowledge regardless, keep it up chief!
I'm bad at this, maybe You'll be better, try xd
NGL i just head on, fire a 2-3 second burst at about 2.5km - 3km, aiming a little above them to compensate for range, THEN maneuver into the dogfight.
you'd be surprised how many just fly straight into it even with tracers coming right at their face.
Thank you so much for tips!! You r the best youtuber ever... keep IT up
Honestly i learned some useful advice from an arma 3 cas flying guide and it applies a lot, maybe even im real life personal problems:
If you fuck up the approach and feel like you are going to fail bevause its in an akward angle, don't do it, unless you are in a hurry
Or in short: DON'T DOGFIGHT IF YOU ARE BnZ PLANE, GET OUT AND TRY AGAIN
This is really, REALLY cool. Now do you have some tips for avoiding B&Zers with turn fighters and slow planes?
I'll try to make more vids about it
Usually turning beneath them makes the job easier
Oh, and don't forget to commit.
Never attack unless you're sure that you will kill the enemy not the other way around or you will find yourself second-guessing your decision in the middle of a turn fight.
Nice
BnZ Players: YE IM ON HIS SIX
Also BnZ Players: I MADE A MISTAKE PLS HAVE MERCY
nearly spat out my heart on the P-47 reversal seeing his guns coming that close to your plane
As a old sub it's so good to watch the content evolve. Keep up with the videos, and keep trying new stuff!
There's no amount of encouragement and baiting that would make me close-dogfight a trapanese in a MiG-3
i didnt know this was an actual maneuver as i learnt to do this in a Zero on my own as a means to survive P47s
Once that mig 3 decided to dive. It's already over for him, mig 3 is very very bad at turn fight and will never going to win against zero or spitfire in a turnfight. If Im in a boom and zoom or energy fighter, always go up if I know that I will overshoot and force him to either do a vertical fight or go to the ground. If you're the enemy, to counter this tactic is just to cut the fight and try to keep distance and try to get speed and wait till he try to do boom and zoom again, wait until he is faster than you and roll over him to get over his 6. If he's smart, He'll try to move away and keep distance because his plane has more energy, instead of pull up right away because you will have a chance to get him.
If you know that you're not going to win the fight, dive and go to your friend. If he is following you, your friend has a high chance to kill him. Because your enemy now has less energy than your friend
Thanks smigol for yous tips🤩🤩🤩
Zwykle wystarcza nakurwianie hineri komi i operowanie przepustnicą xd
A Macie może jakieś porady jak grać dobrze Rosją? samoloty jakoś mi nie idą :( Będę wdzięczny :)
Very nice video, i have been looking forward to the day you would start making theese vids knowing that you are one of the pilots i admire the most in WT, keep it up!!
I tried to get Japanese planes but the two planes you start with were so horrendous I gave up because I was getting like 50 rp every match. It was like playing in a cardboard box with nerf guns taped to the sides.
I almost always go head on I. The j22 and come out of it victorious because I literally just roll until their dead or we pass eachother
tanks for the tips it really help
Thanks man, it helped me with my BF-109 E-4 its hard to turn when you exceed 400 knots.
Also, can you make a tips video about dive bombing?
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Hello anybody :D
Note that this man is using high manuever planes and doesn't say if this works with slugger planes like FW190s
Its funny because I figured all of this out through my own experience and now I can air-out a whole enemy team in my Chaika if they are spread apart. Today my team was completely killed except me and I managed to kill 2 of the 4 remaining enemies and I would of killed all of them but the last F4F and P-63 were quite close to eachother.
Może coś nt. Uników i manewrów których można użyć kiedy lecisz sobie cegłą wesoło i wolno a nad tobą spada z prędkościa światła jakiś samolot kręcący się lepiej niż bęben w pralce. Wim że bnz to się nie kręci, ale czasami nie ma wyboru:P
A new Greenfury have born
Well, I use the same strategy but in your video there is a BIG problem. Your first turn are always too early. So if you're ennemy is good or if your plane isn't very maneuverable you put your self in front of the ennemy gun, and it's you're death.
well that's why You need evasive maneuvers
instruction unclear: got killed by Leopard 2 at 3km trying to roll him into head on in my bt-5
Ah Yes, VL Pyerremyrsky in video
Im kinda new to air rb and i keep getting caught out in headons i guess this will help
Woah, this taught me so much about flying in a mere three minutes!! Now let's see whether I can actually make use of it in practice... Heh.
Thank you for the tips, I am sure to try this out! Please make more... these are very very helpful.
Thanks 4 the tips bro✌
That is impressive!
But what should you do if you got ganged up by a >2 at once? (happens every f**king time to me I swear!)
this video should have a Yak-15. He's the best at it
Выглядит круто. Никогда не понимал геймплея на этих самолетах. Реактивы лучше.
Cool video! But flying the ki 27 should be a war crime.
'Master-Baiter'
Good job man thx
War Thunder: Psychology warfare
Useful in simulator battles
Probably the first one that should be series
Good video, nice and clear, thanks for the help!
Literally how i bait ppl to get my clips. This is top secret information you are leaking. People will see through my bullshit.
XD
Właśnie się dowiedziałem że jesteś z Polski
Niby próbuję swoich sił i manewrów w takich sytuacjach to jednak chętnie skuszę się na więcej :P
I tried this and the enemy crashed into me... I then realised... He was a japanese pilot in a German Bf109
Thanks for the useful video
the best part is, that he is using a Nippon plane
ps : this does not work on biplane wazowski stare*
Finally, i can learn. Thank you.
Nice video! Could you do the same type of video but for jets and supersonic planes ? :D
I wish I could call myself good enough to make a video about jet tactics now. With all the missiles added, I don't think I'm a good jet player now.
Smigol Time! Sad times :(
Its hard to pull off those kinds of manuvers for me on xbox so i have to just go for people who already are chasing a friendly
I'm pretty sure you can plug a keyboard into consoles amd use those controls, which should help a lot
This is actually really helpful, thanks : )
Raptor
Ace
_"Ace"_
Lol, blitzkrieg music xD
Man... thanks you i love it💓😳
Correct video, but if your viewers will do that, sometimes they will meet somebody like me and instantly die
Fantastic! you are truly a master of your craft
Hey try American planes advice trust me American pilots need it
american pilots need better planes
@@Pipcyś no Americans have good planes they only need good pilots
@@Pipcyś tbh when you compare planes at the same BRs more than often American planes are better. This is balanced by the fact that usually the problem is how american pilots fly them
@@Gechi999 A point occurred to me before. Despite the F4U being introduced quite a long way into WW2 the earliest one has the same BR as the first Spitfire. Shows that the American planes were lagging behind during the war in terms of tech I guess but they soon caught up (P51 Mustang had a licence built Rolls Royce Merlin too).
did you choose light names to get them highlighted? ive been trying to change my setting to make them better
recently in a very good game against Japanese a zero in a head on he avoided me with a very strange maneuver right in front of me he made a strange turn forward he looked very acrobatic and great and with that he got to my 6 and I would like to knock down know if you have any idea of the maneuver he did because I want to practice it XD
2:47 missed oppoturnity to say ”finnish”
In short: Discombobulate
Very nice video !
541 Thumbs up, 0 thumbs down, enough said. Great vid, and War Thunder academy material.
3:05 but ima God at head ons
Time to bater aquela gameplay
Eyo do the vittie bro
How do you get someone off your back when they chase you?
genius