Bro...this is seriously the BIGGEST Hole in my game and I appreciate this more than you can imagine, so many times I would get someone in the corner and I’m the one at disadvantage
Oki is not very spoken of, so don’t worry! I see a lot of people with terrible Oki online & I just get to leave their knockdown pressure for free. Good luck with your training
His videos are amazing as well, I wish he still uploaded. His editing style seems to take a lot of effort/time tho, maybe that’s why he couldn’t get many out :(
Great video man, I really like to play tien, if some day u wanna do some character guides I would like to see tien's one. Really like your videos thanks for everythink
I got absolutely smoked today by someone who figured out that I suck at oki and basically mashed his way out everytime, so this video was really helpful. Btw, are you going to do character specific guides again like for Gohan or will these universal guides continue? I appreciate both regardless, good work.
@@NovaZayn well I know how to oki but this setup in general I've seen but never used since I didn't know much about it. I used different setups mostly like 6m setup on dbs broly.
@@NovaZayn it does but off of broly grab at the end of a combo I don't think it has as much frame advantage to do either frame kill. Btw if you want to know the set up its his medium grab (after smash property has been used) whiff 2L then do 6m it covers all tech options and can combo if it hits since it's meaty and is plus rather than 0 on block as well.
@@biroti89 on the back dash one, you hold up forward yes. Which character are you using? Is it on a jH/jDR knock-down? You can’t delay any of the inputs, and the falling jH needs to be as you fall. Send me a clip to see what you’re doing
Welp, it's time for me to stop being a clown at this game. VERY informative and I will make sure to go thru this again step by step when I am learning a new team. Thank you!
Useful video as always! Can I ask how to pressure during sparking or defend that? I can't benefit though I use sparking, escaping from pressuring only..
I have 3 burning questions my FGC-Heroes... (maybe im to late, don't 2H me, im a Newbie) 1.) Is it possible to defend against Level 3 or DP's (delayed max. or not) with the back dash OS Option presented in 6:51 "high jump setting" Did you do that in 9:58 because unfortunately i can't se Inputs there... 2.) 10:15 Does this mean that the Opponent will land a bit more near the corner or that the "FA" (Frame Advantage) is higher in "%"? 3) I know that you mention DR or H for the universal Setup, but in my case it worked out also for QCF-Motion for some Charas... I would really appreciate an answer.
1) The level 3/DP comes out right when the j.H is about to land, giving you time to block. The backdash doesn't come out since you haven't technically landed yet; just react to holding back. That's against regular tech of course, if they delay tech SLIGHTLY they can catch your backdash but it's a very strict timing and you'll usually be too far to get hit by DPs. 2) Covering more aerial ground means you reach closer to the corner so that you can get into your set-ups 3) Not sure what you mean here. The FA after j.DR and j.H SKD are the same, but some specials also share the same FA such as Black's j.236M in which you can get into the same oki set-ups
@@NovaZayn First of all thanks for your answer. I entered Science-Mode now. Im highly motivated even im a Scrub with learning Issues. 1) Is still a bit complicated, buddy. Because i set the "Dummy" to perform a Level 3 after i made use of your universal OKI-Setup OS Backdash (High-Jump-Variation) and i think around 15 Frames of Wakeup-delay the Dummy catches my backdash with Level 3 i think somewhere between the frames you are able to backdash and VANISH but you must have a good reaction.. but like you mentioned if the Invincible is at a specific Frame you as the Backdasher (even with OPtion-Select) have no chance... at least not with the Backdash OS... am i right?🔂 2) It's clear now! I just misunderstood something. "Case" closed✅ 3) I just wanted to know, if they are plenty of Specials for other Characters like Goku Black's j.236M that behaves with the same Frame-advantages (i found out that some worked out but im not 100% sure) like your presented universal OKI Strategy. Because sometimes you want to end the Combo with a Special. And if not are there a Guide to Character specific OKI's after Air Specials from your side? Because i like your Videos.▶ EXTRA) And finally after reanalyzing your Video on 7:31 you mentioned Frame-Kills to "reload" the Assists. I tested this method but i set the Dummy to 2H instead. But the reload after the Framekill is not very reliable or i do something wrong. Has that to do with the length of a combo? I also tested the exactly same combo with your'e team and it didn't reload on a constant Level. BONUS: Surprisingly i also testet Tiens Volleyball-Smash "M" Version in the Air with the exact same Combo and it worked? It's a bit confusing.😵💫are there Character-Specific Framekills for each Character to reload the Assist? i searched your Videos but didn't find... Im just about to learn and maybe i take things to an extreme Level. Anyway i leave with a Sub. Because i appreciate your'e effort and time to explain!🛐👨🔬
EDIT: For my 1st Point. I exchanged something, sry you can see im confused. With Backdash OS you are able to escape from Level 3, IF the Opponent delays his Level 3 to a certain Frame. As example Cells Level 3 catches me while i perform the Backdash OS, if he don't delay his wakeup!
@@mr.nipplealternateuniverse Don’t worry about specific delay tech timings, that’s more advanced and you’ll see it with time. I might make a vid about it soon. Besides the universal stuff I went over in this video, every character has their own character specific Oki and unique frame kills. I wish I could make a video on them all but i don’t have time:/ sorry about that
@@NovaZayn It's ok Buddy. I just figured out that you can OS dash certain DP Moves.. but you can't OS dash safely against Level 3's or Cells QCB+Heavy as example. My primary Question was if the OS-Dash is kind of a savejump AGAINST Level 3's, but after my Trial i figured out that if the opponent don't delay his wake-up options or just slightly paired with Level 3 than it's not possible to OS-Backdash.. please tell me if im wrong.. Don't worry about time-issues. I always liked fighting games but to speak/wirte it out, honestly you have to put a lot more time if you want to play it on a "decent" level. So for me it's not a surprise that a lot of Gamers avoid Fighting Games at all. It's fairly understandable. I mean let's be honest it's the hardest Genre. It's easy to have no commitments, live under mothers Rock (House) and analyze Fighting Games 24/7 not all People got this privilege (nothing against them).. But i try to invest some time if it's possible to at least learn some key-Features... Time is a privilege you can say what you want but thats how it is...
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This is unbelievable. I've just stumbled on a hidden gem. This is a very informative and in depth guide
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it
Bro...this is seriously the BIGGEST Hole in my game and I appreciate this more than you can imagine, so many times I would get someone in the corner and I’m the one at disadvantage
Haha I feel that! Make sure to practice these and you’ll be set
@@NovaZayn will do bro you on psn?
Same
You can't go wrong with this channel, excellent video as always
Thank you so much:)
This is the best FighterZ channel by far. It's taught me so much!
Thank you so much!!!
Thanks i've really needed to work on this, this is one of my weakest points in the game, and you're amazing at explaining everything
Oki is not very spoken of, so don’t worry! I see a lot of people with terrible Oki online & I just get to leave their knockdown pressure for free. Good luck with your training
@@NovaZayn Thanks so much :)
This channel is hella underrated. I really needed this. Thanks!
Thank you:)
This video is godlike I’ve been playing this game for a long while but my pressure game is still kinda wacky but this video helped out thanks! 🙏
Thank you glad u enjoyed!
Your videos along with Doc's are being great for me
His videos are amazing as well, I wish he still uploaded. His editing style seems to take a lot of effort/time tho, maybe that’s why he couldn’t get many out :(
can't believe i have not seen your vids before, easiest sub of my life thanks for the info!
Haha thank you! Welcome to the channel
Informative and concise, straight to the point, very easy to understand and watch, definitely some of the better guides out there.
Thank you!! I’m glad you enjoyed it
This is gold. There is information I've been missing but this explains a lot. Ty
Thank you🙏
Just found this channel. Really underrated channel. +1 sub. ( 2 videos are already saved in my dbfz playlist ;D Agohan and this 1)
Thank you so much, welcome to the channel!
This video opened my third eye
That’s why Tien was hosting this guide😎
Really helpful thanks man
Glad I could help:)
This is a great video. Thank you for making this.
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Phenomenal guide!
Thank you!!
Top notch content!
Appreciate you bro🙏🏾
Great video man, I really like to play tien, if some day u wanna do some character guides I would like to see tien's one. Really like your videos thanks for everythink
Thank you! Tien is really cool, might have to explore him sometime👀
Everyone: learning really good fighterz information that can help your gameplay and overall quality of life
Me:🕺 🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺(Jump Force Lobby Theme)
Lmao???
@@NovaZayn the only good thing that came from jump force was the lobby theme
@@yeetusthefetusdnp OHH lmaooo facts and visually looks nice
Your a god send for these dude
Thank you🙏🙏
this is really useful!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I got absolutely smoked today by someone who figured out that I suck at oki and basically mashed his way out everytime, so this video was really helpful. Btw, are you going to do character specific guides again like for Gohan or will these universal guides continue? I appreciate both regardless, good work.
Now you know what to do to lock them down! Yep, character specific guides coming soon before any more universal concepts
Nice vid for 5 years I've play and never utilized this
A lot of online players have no clue how to oki it makes me sad
@@NovaZayn well I know how to oki but this setup in general I've seen but never used since I didn't know much about it. I used different setups mostly like 6m setup on dbs broly.
@@ssjshaun8512 I’m not sure about DBS Broly’s oki since every char does have their own setups, but these ones do offer more options than 6M!
@@NovaZayn it does but off of broly grab at the end of a combo I don't think it has as much frame advantage to do either frame kill. Btw if you want to know the set up its his medium grab (after smash property has been used) whiff 2L then do 6m it covers all tech options and can combo if it hits since it's meaty and is plus rather than 0 on block as well.
Quality content keep it up. Trying to main A Gohan and this guide are really helping to up my game!
Thank you! I love A Gohan
@@NovaZayn I have questions
1 - You only use normal upfoward right no IAD?
2- I keep getting 2H'ed with both options what am I doing wrong?
@@biroti89 on the back dash one, you hold up forward yes. Which character are you using? Is it on a jH/jDR knock-down? You can’t delay any of the inputs, and the falling jH needs to be as you fall. Send me a clip to see what you’re doing
@@NovaZayn I'm using A. Gohan. On this case it's the J.H variant that gets me punished. I tried using the super jump buffering but no luck so far :(
@@biroti89 czcams.com/video/ZfP_ljqrv6g/video.html
It def works, maybe you’re pressing jH too early?
that jump force music goes dummy 😅
Haha ikr!
Welp, it's time for me to stop being a clown at this game. VERY informative and I will make sure to go thru this again step by step when I am learning a new team.
Thank you!
Thank you! Good luck with your training
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Was hoping for more mid screen options for meaty wake ups tbh
Midscreen coming soon, this is called corner edition for a reason!
Useful video as always! Can I ask how to pressure during sparking or defend that? I can't benefit though I use sparking, escaping from pressuring only..
Another great question! Sparking video might come up in the near future👀
I have 3 burning questions my FGC-Heroes... (maybe im to late, don't 2H me, im a Newbie)
1.) Is it possible to defend against Level 3 or DP's (delayed max. or not) with the back dash OS Option presented in 6:51 "high jump setting" Did you do that in 9:58 because unfortunately i can't se Inputs there...
2.) 10:15 Does this mean that the Opponent will land a bit more near the corner or that the "FA" (Frame Advantage) is higher in "%"?
3) I know that you mention DR or H for the universal Setup, but in my case it worked out also for QCF-Motion for some Charas...
I would really appreciate an answer.
1) The level 3/DP comes out right when the j.H is about to land, giving you time to block. The backdash doesn't come out since you haven't technically landed yet; just react to holding back. That's against regular tech of course, if they delay tech SLIGHTLY they can catch your backdash but it's a very strict timing and you'll usually be too far to get hit by DPs.
2) Covering more aerial ground means you reach closer to the corner so that you can get into your set-ups
3) Not sure what you mean here. The FA after j.DR and j.H SKD are the same, but some specials also share the same FA such as Black's j.236M in which you can get into the same oki set-ups
@@NovaZayn First of all thanks for your answer. I entered Science-Mode now. Im highly motivated even im a Scrub with learning Issues.
1) Is still a bit complicated, buddy. Because i set the "Dummy" to perform a Level 3 after i made use of your universal OKI-Setup OS Backdash (High-Jump-Variation) and i think around 15 Frames of Wakeup-delay the Dummy catches my backdash with Level 3 i think somewhere between the frames you are able to backdash and VANISH but you must have a good reaction.. but like you mentioned if the Invincible is at a specific Frame you as the Backdasher (even with OPtion-Select) have no chance... at least not with the Backdash OS... am i right?🔂
2) It's clear now! I just misunderstood something. "Case" closed✅
3) I just wanted to know, if they are plenty of Specials for other Characters like Goku Black's j.236M that behaves with the same Frame-advantages (i found out that some worked out but im not 100% sure) like your presented universal OKI Strategy. Because sometimes you want to end the Combo with a Special. And if not are there a Guide to Character specific OKI's after Air Specials from your side? Because i like your Videos.▶
EXTRA) And finally after reanalyzing your Video on 7:31 you mentioned Frame-Kills to "reload" the Assists. I tested this method but i set the Dummy to 2H instead. But the reload after the Framekill is not very reliable or i do something wrong. Has that to do with the length of a combo? I also tested the exactly same combo with your'e team and it didn't reload on a constant Level. BONUS: Surprisingly i also testet Tiens Volleyball-Smash "M" Version in the Air with the exact same Combo and it worked? It's a bit confusing.😵💫are there Character-Specific Framekills for each Character to reload the Assist? i searched your Videos but didn't find...
Im just about to learn and maybe i take things to an extreme Level. Anyway i leave with a Sub. Because i appreciate your'e effort and time to explain!🛐👨🔬
EDIT: For my 1st Point. I exchanged something, sry you can see im confused.
With Backdash OS you are able to escape from Level 3, IF the Opponent delays his Level 3 to a certain Frame.
As example Cells Level 3 catches me while i perform the Backdash OS, if he don't delay his wakeup!
@@mr.nipplealternateuniverse Don’t worry about specific delay tech timings, that’s more advanced and you’ll see it with time. I might make a vid about it soon.
Besides the universal stuff I went over in this video, every character has their own character specific Oki and unique frame kills. I wish I could make a video on them all but i don’t have time:/ sorry about that
@@NovaZayn It's ok Buddy. I just figured out that you can OS dash certain DP Moves.. but you can't OS dash safely against Level 3's or Cells QCB+Heavy as example. My primary Question was if the OS-Dash is kind of a savejump AGAINST Level 3's, but after my Trial i figured out that if the opponent don't delay his wake-up options or just slightly paired with Level 3 than it's not possible to OS-Backdash.. please tell me if im wrong..
Don't worry about time-issues. I always liked fighting games but to speak/wirte it out, honestly you have to put a lot more time if you want to play it on a "decent" level. So for me it's not a surprise that a lot of Gamers avoid Fighting Games at all. It's fairly understandable. I mean let's be honest it's the hardest Genre. It's easy to have no commitments, live under mothers Rock (House) and analyze Fighting Games 24/7 not all People got this privilege (nothing against them).. But i try to invest some time if it's possible to at least learn some key-Features... Time is a privilege you can say what you want but thats how it is...
is that jump force lobby music i hear??
So Oki is recovery pressure
Sure, they share similar concepts
I was playing with someone earlier and they were fucking me up with this meaty stuff and i knew i had to search it up lmfao
Hope you learned something !
jump force lobby music lolol frick yeah
Yezzir bangers!