I Never Use My Screw Gun
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2020
- The 18v collated screw gun
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Hi Scott, you have to keep the trigger pulled in constantly if you try and pull the trigger for each screw the rpm’s are not high enough which causes misfires. Also you need to use good screw strips, cheap ones have thinner plastic which also causes misfires. Hope this helps.
Diddnt even watch the whole vid and knew he would have been using it wrong hahaha
Interesting
Scotty, I've had one of those drivers for years and always cursed it. Untill the last job when I adjusted the screw length adjuster.
Then it worked likeva dream
It took you years to figure that out?
@@user-tx7hz2iu1t that's what he said
scrawe lenth adjastar
Better late then never I guess, that tool in a working order is be god-send when putting drywall up all day every day :D :D
@@kalev60 dry
There's nothing more annoying than having to hand-screw something together czcams.com/users/postUgkx1McjgiqTNcTjrhvRvJWcrk5bzTeQW-Wn except for the pain in your wrist that is. This addition to my tool kit is great and I can get a lot done without all the pain and annoyance. The battery last's a long time and I have yet to run out of power when doing a small project (granted I am saying small project because I'm no construction worker). The only thing that I wish it had was an LED or pair of LEDs to indicate when it was charging and whether or not the charge was complete (or full).
adjust the depth of the drywall screwdriver to the length of the screws. should be good.
And if its starts to slip then philips should be changed.
True. And if it keps slipping change the bit. You got 4 when you bought the machine.
Or just buy a Dewalt drywall screw pack 30 bucks and your away.
Uhm new to this channel but if you explaing to the dude how to use tools. Why are any of us watching it's great he doing he's thing an it's like watching a actor learn he's role...
@@fladlagkage I remember the good ole days when tools came with cheap ass bits an blades. Then ya had to go buy a quality product from another company.
Makita NZ “Can someone sort Scott’s damn driver out ASAP before the next vid comes out?!!!”...
Lmao 🤣
knowing how reserved he is, when he said 'this sucks' i had to double take. that must have stung makita marketing
1:44 "that stops it from slipping when it`s under a lot of pressure". Old classic drill chucks are just fine when it comes to non slipping. SDS Plus is here because its ability to deliver impact action just by moving drill bit (or chisel), not a whole chuck.
Wow, wearing a dust respirator and using a vacuum when cutting with a multi-tool, 100% better than any trade I've ever seen over this side of the Tasman!
Im a production manager in a house factory and our volume is 450 m2 per week (350 m2 plasterboarding, where 15% is handgunned)
We mostly do our plasterboard installation with weinmann cnc bridge(nails). Jobs, that we can not do with bridge, were using Maktia and Spit Screw-Guns from 2018.
Before we used Senco guns, bought 8+ of them, 3 of them in 2017(new models and they are not much better then old ones) Senco had error rate of 7%.Once we started to try out Makitas and error rate droped to 3%(and yes, we measure it).Spits we are using mostly on site, because they are heavy duty guns.
In my experience, Makita screwgun has 2 main problems:
*Adjusting it: has seen in video, your screw get stuck between the frame and the guide box. always regulate it higher, with every time it get stuck there your guide will get worse.
*GUIDE BOX: you have to change it regulary. If you think that changing the screw tip, then thats not enough. Its actually cheap, i belive that we buy our ones about 20 Euros. õ
And for last. If you want to walk as fast as technology goes, then stamplegun/method is the thing. We are going to change our arsnenal to stamples (range 70% - framing is the issue). Stample is 4x cheaper and error rate is almost =0%
Taavi Haan stample as in staple ? Because iv’e seen some people actually use huge staples to put up there drywall.
Brian B Yes, staples. By us staples are just now passing fire requirements(drywalls) and we have used them, but our prefabricated walls installation crew really dnt like them.. if they damage one board and need to change it, then imagine pulling out 120 staples for example. And we know, that germans are using staples to frame timber walls and were looking into it also. You need to run as fast as technology is developing otherwise your out of busyness soon :)
What is a stample?
I had the same issue with mine, what I found was set it to the next size screw up from the one you are using then adjust the depth to as deep as it will go and works like a dream and finishes the screw about 2mm under the surface.
Keep the videos coming. Love seeing a chippy that isn't an American, nothing wrong with them just nice to see a change!
I've had similar issues with with different tools. My dewalt 20v framing nailer will sink its max diameter nail all day. But the min diameter nails(like paslode nails) misfire all the damn time. Those skinny paslode nails are engineered to be fired at a much higher velocity I think.
I'm so happy I got myself that smaller drill as well - being a hobbyist it wasn't too easy to justify having two drills, but I'm so happy with my DDF484z - yes, I got hammerless version, which is another 120g less and 10mill shorter. DHP481Z skin weighs as much as DDF484+battery. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Mate,,i m a dryliner,,working in the UK for 5 years now,, i have just that tool and let me tell you,,,last job was a 13 floors students flats,,40 on each level.on ALL those ceiling,s we use that kind of model, i give it 10+.
Nice vids btw
it really is designed for jobs where you're just sheeting large expanses all day long. It's more hassle than it's worth on small jobs like this.
Same here. Save so much time,but I don't get that micro break grabbing the next screw😂😅
I bought one of these a couple of years ago and used it to do a 500m² house, halfway through it stopped working and jamming like yours is. Turns out it wa the Bunnings brand of screws, swapped screws and it worked.perfectly.
Hell yes heaps of Bunnings screws are shit
Service it man, Also make sure the depth is set. There great tools when there all in working order
Its seems to be operator error. More specifically the operator needs training/practice with the adjustments and/or techniques of the use of the tool.
Translation: a man uses his own tools because he is familiar with their...quirks.
How dare you
You inspired me to buy a brushless battery Makita kit, saw, drill, driver and circular saw and put a sliding glass door into the side of shipping container. It was a lot harder and took longer than I thought. The circular saw, same as yours is just brilliant to use. Now the friend I did it for has got a few more projects lines up!
Hi Scott, I have the same gun (mains powered). and had exaxctly the same problems.
I took the whole collated mechanism apart, used some dry PTFE on all the moving parts, stopped using generic colleted screws and started using Senco screws. The difference is night and day, I used to get a jam at least once in every two strips, just drywalled the whole of my brothers extension and didn't suffer any jams.
Thoroughly enjoying your channel, keep up the good work and keep safe and sane.
I love this dudes character. Very laid back and calm when working, got my sub for this.
love that he just installs another ceiling under the previous xD
Love how a true craftsman makes things look so easy.
Pablo Ucan - The video was speeded up considerably and much work was edited out.
@@carlcampbell6827 he meant the editor
@@taiyoqun - He said "a true craftsman" (means worker) not an editor. Have a good day and take care.
@@carlcampbell6827 whoooosh
I love the cleanness of your work
Love these videos bro!
Well, carpenters now make amazingly edited videos. Video Editing is such an amazing skill.
the focus and care required for one craft tends to trickle down to other interests 🤝
I had one and it jammed loads of times, thats why I don’t have one anymore
Love your vids! Cheers from Holland!
Always watch your vidz. Very relatable being a chippee in Auckland myself. Funny how I'm questioning something then you answer it. Cool shit! Keep it up. And the instrumentals you loop for your vids are dope!
I been a student in my college for 3 years and honestly Scott has been inspiring me so much with his videos. It may sound daft but it's true. Keep up the great content! ☺ (I forgot to mention. I'm studying Carpentry) ☺
you can study carpentry?!
@@joseppedaia3673 That's right. ☺ This year I was doing level 2 site carpentry. I was hanging doors, fitting door handles and locks and guttering. I also done level 2 bench joinery!
@@vl_Ghosty_vl Oh thats cool. In germany (one can correct me on this) it is "just" an apprenticeship. But I looked it up just now and it's possible to study interior design (bad translation there) so it's kind of possible here to. Didn't know that!
@@joseppedaia3673 That's very interesting! In our college's we have 3 different years of carpentry. Level 1, 2 and 3. Each one you do different stuff such as guttering, hanging doors, using circular saws and chop saws. (These are parts of the assessments and exams to show that we are capable of using the tools at hand)
@@vl_Ghosty_vl in New Zealand we do an apprenticeship. Takes between 3 - 5 years, it seems all depends on your competency. By the end of the first year, most, I 'd say 90% of apprentices are competent with most of the tools. What country are you in?
Been using this tool all week and there is certainly a knack in how to use it, I agree though it's one of least favourite makita tools it can drive you insane when it jams. Getting the correct screw's helps,been running dewalt screw's all week and they seek to work without much issue.
Where did you get the Dewalt screws?
@@yup3398 I bought them from a wholesaler I use in the UK called R&J hardware.
I buy loads from them in bulk for my sites
@@rossmale8715 thanks mate.
Swap the head out for a older one with no flaps at the front first thing i do is throw these heads out when when buying a new gun terrible design you will need shorter tips for your gun longer life less jams
Hi Scott. I have the same gun. It used to do this a lot. Then I realised that it was the spring flap gates at the front of the machine head. One of the springs had failed and so the screws would go off to the side and jam every now and again.
It's an easy low cost fix. The gates are replaced no bother at all and are cheap to buy. Hope this helps you. Keep up the good work.
Good to see you manage to sheet a ceiling by yourself. It takes practice. All the best from Inverness.
Stay safe
Scott, as always a pleasure! Those drills are amazing when they work but can be a nightmare. The jobs looking good!
The length of that Sparky's drill bit 😂😂😂
when you don't have the right diameter in the short size, you use the long one. ev1 does it now and then
SCOTT!! Get that Drywall screwdriver RMA'd if you registered it for the 3 year warranty.
There are tons of drywallers that use that exact same model day in day out for thousands of screws without the problem your experiencing.
Have a look at the "Maxkil" youtube channel and search Makita. They are a AUS based youtube drywalling channel.
EDIT: Here's a good example, link - czcams.com/video/ymoz2pqsc8Y/video.html
Hope that helps, that's too expensive a piece of kit to be kept sub optimal.
I can testify to this!
No-one resisters for warranty
If have the same driver DFR550 AND the same issues! At 2:06 you can clearly hear the first misfire followed by 2 more attempts that wouldn't work of course because the screw got drilled into the side of the guide 2:37 and if you're lucky you can unscrew it. Mine is still under warranty and a new guide has been ordered, but i'm still not convinced about the mechanism.
@@DodoOnCocktails It must be a one off pal. Literally there are thousands of drywallers around the world and they all stick to Hiliti, Dewalt or Makita and put thousands of screws through them.
If you get the machine back try a different brand of collated screws there can be a difference in tolerances.
Literally thousands of dyrwallers will be hammering this gun without fault on 32mm, 35mm and 38mm screws around the world. If it is not working perfectly and you are using it according to the instructions then it will be faulty.
Hope this helps.
@@robthesamplist a lot of people do. Literally buy the tool from a reputable seller and create an account on the Makita website within 30 days and change the warranty from 1 year to 3 years.
It would be silly to pay for it and not register it IMHO.
I have the Makita drywall gun too and at first I was excited as well, but same problems: screws don't sink in consistently. I hardly had any jams though. I was thinking all the time I am too stupid to utilize it correctly, but seeing a pro like you also having troubles with it makes me feel so much better. Thanks for sharing honest experiences of it. Also, nice job results!
I LOVE those tools. A mate of mine have a Festool one I borrow every time I install drywall. Never ever doing it without it again.
Funnily enough, I bought the festool drywall gun last year and used it for the first time today, I’ve used the makita before but the festool is miles better. So smooth much more powerful.
robin burgess - Yes researching what the professional drywall hangers are using daily will answer the question of what screw gun to buy.
Hilti collated guns are also a really good option
@@yerdawearsbaggies2752 agree!!
@@yerdawearsbaggies2752 the best
Agreed, festool is the way to go if you are doing lots of drywalling, hilti is the next in order, makita is nowhere near as good as festool or hilti. It will get the work done yes, but it's not user friendly.
Have you adjusted the depth to suit the screw length, Scott? Makes a huge difference
Love the vids bro, keep up the good work 👍
Hey Scott, any thoughts on the new rule here in new zealand allowing up to 30sq meters without permits, great news i think.
Mate, you should definetely try replacing the bit in the screw gun. I had the same drill (I think) and it had the same problem,changed the bit and now it works like a charm...
Had one, sold it after 4 weeks bought a Festool, more screws on one Batt. No hearing protection needed👌
You always do great work
I have a similar support arm but it's got a safe lift limit of 50kg and has really helped with hanging some cupboards in the past. Thanks for the content!
Exactly the same problem with my drywall gun.One conclusion I have found its the collated strips. Some are more flexible than other makes and just work better. But overall the thing is a pain and lucky I seldom do drywall these days.
Oh forgot, always have a can of WD40 to hand when using....
Yes! Strips are key! I use timco yellow plastic strips. No problem. I'm in the UK. Soft strip goes through better for sure!
@@3amsaint Yep, totally agree..The worst are British Gypsum, more expensive and always getting chewed up
@@gavincollins9376 WD40 is not a good idea. For my screwgun I use PTFE lubricant (dry lube), so no dust sticks to it. And before applying any lubricant, I use compressed air to get rid of any dust. I all else fails, I just change the whole front cartridge. So far I did it twice during 9 years of use.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I don't have any problems using WD40 if need be...
I have lots of tools like that. They sit around for awhile but when you need them they save a ton of time
Seems to be how it goes, eh! Especially when you do a wide variety of work.
They gather dust for a long while, then you figure out why you bought it in the first place.
True
I bought a cordless angle drill once with no plans for what i would use it for. Needed it the next week to assemble wine racks.
Agreed, I used to do construction and had a pretty good system of lining my fingers with screws. However belt fed screw guns outpace me easily. Plus you dont have to lineup 30 screws in between your fingers.
I like the music and the beats. You got a good taste. Keep up the good work and thanks! Greetings from Amsterdam
Yo, glad i stumbled upon this channel. Production is on point...
Hey Scotty, great work. I literally said " thats overkill" when you put in the screws in the brackets, but that just got you a sub partner. Great work, time and effort into everything you do, cheers mate ! Keep crackin'
Same with my FiL. I swear, that man would build an entire wall out of brackets if he could.
Incoming tool rep with a new screw gun 😂
I can only hope.
czcams.com/video/ZvUjUeHCvmE/video.html Big issue can be quality of the screws and the collation. No point buying a good tool then feeding cheap, sub-standard fixings through it.
Matt A ...Incoming fastener rep to say that you’ve been using inferior screw ammo belts. =-)
I used these for all my job( I’m a gib fixer). Your problem is probably the gates in the front cost about $25 to replaced I also make sure that all my screw guns are clean and graphite before starting the job in the morning
I have used my Makita screw gun a lot, and mostly on MDF. The experience all over great, sure some jams occur but always user (bad alignment or not push the tool straight) related or hitting a screw or nail that diverts the screw. As I am renovating my own house I have the luxury of having electricity and uses the corded gun. Make sure the guide doors are moving freely. Keep up the videos Scott!
Hey man, I hope you use the right screwdriver. Your screws seems to be Pz ans your drill Ph. If it is, that's the reason why it's wrong, no ? This automatic drill is awesome for drywallers.
One thing I’ve always found frustrating about the Makita screw gun is that if you aren’t holding the end, or should I say barrel, perfectly flat to the surface when you press it in, the screw won’t countersink in all the way. I have found adjusting the angle of the barrel somewhat helpful when using it tight against walls to avoid this, but it’s just extra hassle. I end up going round with a drill afterwards anyway to sink in every one that I didn’t fire in properly.
Still a big time saver though and a massive help when putting up ceilings, especially with the trouser hook.
Keep a screw driver on you and check each sheet once you are done. Won't pull the screw through the paper with a screw driver 👍
Thanks for the explanation of the different drills that you use it makes it a little clearer why you use what you do.
I have the old Makita 10.8V set of drills, I found the drill great for plasterboard as you can set the torque and its light for your pockets.
Hi Scott how come you use gyp in a bathroom we always so fibro in wet Ares then water proof it?
Btw we have the same problem with that screw gun.
Love the videos. 👌👌
Yeah it is funny how they do things different os. I notice in some parts of america and canada they wack ply on the floor then tile with no waterproofing.
@@sydneyshinshi thats not parts of america, thats shitty clueless contractors. you find them everywhere. like this guy... clueless. gyp cant get wet, no matter where you live.
@@DieselRamcharger Its aqualine gib, wax designed for wet areas.
green boards are moisture boards in the UK
Even though I already own all of those same tools and know exactly what to do with them, it was still a highly entertaining video. Chur bro.
What sds drill do you recommend and battery or cord? Tried your idea of picture frame around a deck and will always do it that way from now on. More work and framing but worth it. Thanks and keep safe.
finally someone who actually builds something with the tool in a demo
interesting. In the US that outlet the "customer requested" is required by code next to the "basin" (we call it a lav(atory), or sink)
Where as in the UK you cant even have a light switch in the bathroom
Ask hilti for a shot of the sd5000. Different class
hi sir, where did you buy the support weight pole ? looks really handy
hey scott great video, one question what brand where those stands that you used to hold up the plaster in the bathroom, i have been looking for something similar. Thanks
There are several models of makita autofeed screw guns catering for different length of screws all superb machines , my guess is you have been using the wrong one.
You should do some tips on drilling holes in plaster board. Those holes for the shower/vanity are mint man!
Gargolorz Search for Robin Clevett measuring hacks 👍🏼 he’s like the English version of SBC, both have quality videos, but that one in particular will show you how to get those holes in exactly the right place
Not hard with a tape measure though?
Was thinking the same thing. Close is close but those were Perfect
BigB Tape measure can take more time, most/lots of things are quicker without using a tape measure
Its called measuring, give it a try.
Had the same problem. Then I changed from the the ‘grabber screws’ to the fortress ones and haven’t had any issues since 👍
Dude the festool auto one is sick, complete lifesaver when installing drywall
Also got one 10/10
I'd recommend a Senco. Only tool that I have Senco brand is drywall gun. Can't go wrong if you use it properly.
I've used both the Makita and Senco... The latter just feels so much better, hardly any problematic drive-ins. Senco finish nailer is a good tool aswell.
Sad when the video ends 😭😅
Having the gun fully reved up before you try to impact a screw I find is what it takes to use those constantly, otherwise it’s doesn’t have enough power to put the screw fully in without miss firing, jamming or going in crooked
Hey Scott, impressing doing this job of hanging the deck alone, really impressive! I totaly hate work over my head for long time, i am not used to it!
Huh, I've used quite a lot of makita screw guns, and I've never really had much trouble with em. But I will say that I got to use a hilti screw gun and it was much better.
Agreed, the Hilti was just better, possibly as Scott mentioned the battery was bigger and the quality of Hilti is just over kill
I mean it should be at twice to four times the price.
@@OmegaGamingNetwork well I mean if the makita is so bad that you tend to avoid using it then it might as well be a waste of money.
So it's better to buy a more expensive tool that you will actually use.
When you’re showing off the size of your sds drillbit and your sparky’s like “call THAT a drillbit!?”
A space bit coulda worked, but sparky was flexin'
I have a festool drywall gun. I had the same issue, worked great and then crapped out. Eventually I realized the tip of the bit was worn out and needed to be replaced. I swapped it out and it worked like new.
I've owned one of those Makita belt fed guns. I found that if you go too fast with it that's when it messes up. Drive one in, give it a second for the motor to wind down and then repeat.
I'm surprised about the screws straight in the concrete! You guys don't use screw anchors at all in blocks or brick walls ?
Yannick Lemin No need with a screw designed for masonry/block work. Get the right screw and they HOLD. Those Hilton look good, like a Timberlok for masonry.
Yannick Lemin those are special screws designed to screw directly into concrete once you have pilot hole. They are much faster to install.
I wish we had such screws over here in Belgium, I'm no builder but it would still make my life much simpler 😁 thanks for the explanations guys
Yannick Lemin Search for Simpson, Hilti or Tapcon, I’m sure you could find them or get them online. Best of luck!
Love my makita screw gun just finished gibbing my house. Just keep the screw bits fresh stops the slipping.
Proper tool upkeep makes those auto feed drills far more consistent. The bits round off quicker than a normal driver. Those are also truly meant for drywall and shallow penetration into wood.
Unless you are hanging something heavy off of that ceiling, it is WAY overbuilt, and yes, I am a journeyman carpenter. That tiny ceiling doesn't need lag bolts in concrete to hold it up. It also doesn't need the side straps that you installed. You could have saved yourself a HUGE amount of time by framing the 2" x 4" frame on the ground and then using your drywall support to hold it in place as you lift the entire frame up at once. Tapcon concrete screws are sufficient to hold it in place along with the framing nails in the studs it is mounted to.
On the positive side, if this building is ever in an earthquake, your small little ceiling will be the last thing standing lol. I am kidding you on this job, but there is no question that you did a high-quality installation, and for that, I give you a lot of credit.
I have a vision! I see. I see. I see Makita NZ reaching out to you, soon. Very very soon :-)
More like hilti NZ
😂
i love when people judge tools whilst having no idea how to use such tools properly
as already stated if you set the depth properly it will work as it should
My senco started doing that. I swapped the phillips bit for a new one and it's been perfect ever since.
Nice job, its always nice to have the right tools, especially when they work right, then it gets frustrating when you have to stop and reset. Be an Electrician for 30+yrs now. And again. Nice work
Forget Makita buddy. Try out Hilti´s drywall screwdriver, it might cost alot more, but its simply the best ive ever tried
Agreed
Love your video. Please do merchandise PLEASE
That m12 stapler is a dream for hanging soft ducting, saves time and cleans the job up nicely 👌🏼
You will need a Licensed Building Practitioner for it. But yeah, good news for tiny homes.
I've had both chordless and chorded ones and had the same issues with both. I just make sure I have new bits and graphite handy all the time. And one of the apprentices checks the screws as we finish the sheets.
Hi how's for man? . Do you not put dwangs in at the edge of your sheets where 2 sheets of plasterboard meet?
Always a pleasure to watch ! Nice 👍 tempo and nice job 👍🥳
Hey Scott, where dos you buy that toolbelt, and what did it cost?
So what's the final verdict? Is it at a decent tool to get, or not? I've kind of always wanted one of those for drywall.
Also, I know you have the Festool dust extractor, but what about the Makita cordless ones? Have you used them?
I used to do allot of drywall with a corded Senco driver with collated screws. I beat it up allot and it almost never jammed.
1) you´re missing anchors in that block walls 2) you have so OP construction for that dry wall celling...
Wow where can I get those poles for holding up the gyprock? That's so cool
festool scott the best one!!!!
You remind me of my dad, it’s not necessary to go this extra mile but I will for the sake of doing an excellent job. Keep up the good work
Wearing a respirator and using a vac, good work practice. Here in the US we snort 20 lines of gypsum dust before lunch lmfao.
Scott how do you know bit size for those concrete screws ? I have some others but they don't tell you on bag the bit size
Does anyone know if you can refill the strips with loose screws or do you have to buy fresh strips?
Hey Scott, I'm sad to hear I'm not the only one having problem with that Makita auto-feed mechanism. I've got the older, corded version (Model 6832): should have plenty of power, but still can't sink consistently without jamming. Adding insult to injury the replacement bits are almost impossible to get here in Canada. So I bought a Bosch with their MA55 auto-feed attachment. It worked consistently enough to hang a 1400 sqft apartment of 5/8ths without a hitch. It feels good when it just works!
the extra brackets for the ceiling joists are definitely required. great work.
Now that was a neat job around the pipework. Very neat.
That grey stuff you rolled onto the timber we call it felt in the UK and we use it too to cover shed roofs and flat roofs but a different type slightly and for stopping wood from touching concrete we usually use plastic DPC I think it's called