Film Theory: 3 Thor Love And Thunder Theories (Thor Trailer)

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    The trailer for Thor: Love and Thunder is out and it is SWEET! Well, the song choice is anyway. The rest? Well you will have to stay tuned as we dissect every inch of the new Thor trailer to find every clue and easter egg! Then we can try and predict what kind of crazy adventure this movie is going to be! Let's go!
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  • @coltonkinsella5858
    @coltonkinsella5858 Před rokem +341

    That awkward moment when MatPat theorizes a plot that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual film, but would’ve been leagues better than the actual movie we got😬😂

    • @christianmodester1025
      @christianmodester1025 Před 9 měsíci +2

      The best part was he mentioned the actual plot when he talked about gorr

    • @cybrogpotato7425
      @cybrogpotato7425 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Real. If I was a movie director for marvel or DC I'd just drop a trailer, see what Matpat comes up with, and do that cause his idea would probably be cooler than what I had in mind

  • @hydranoid2009
    @hydranoid2009 Před 2 lety +7042

    The "blonde hair, blue eyes, girl from Thor's childhood" could potentially refer to Amora the Enchantress too. Which would be less crazy than the Phoenix and Angela theories

    • @michaeldaniels642
      @michaeldaniels642 Před 2 lety +254

      Phoenix would be weird since she is heavily X-Men and they haven't shown any signs of bringing them in yet. Angela was his sister in the comics which was done with Hela in the last movie so unless there is some stuff happening she's out too.
      Edit: OK, I really gotta watch the video more before replying to comments I see.

    • @driveasandwich6734
      @driveasandwich6734 Před 2 lety +125

      It's certainly *possible*, but Sylvie already was a partial adaptation of the Enchantress.

    • @Kinji_Hakari
      @Kinji_Hakari Před 2 lety +23

      @@michaeldaniels642 wait if marvel is using Greek mythology which DC uses does that mean DC will use Norse mythology?

    • @loganshaw4527
      @loganshaw4527 Před 2 lety +35

      @@Kinji_Hakari I think it is nice that the Greek gods show up.

    • @Kinji_Hakari
      @Kinji_Hakari Před 2 lety +10

      @@loganshaw4527 then that means DCU and MCU will meet like come together like join forces
      Something like that happened in the comics

  • @gregreilly7328
    @gregreilly7328 Před 2 lety +840

    I actually think it references Thor's daughter, as in the Next Avengers. A new generation of heroes after all the contracts expired. Hawkeye explores a new generation rising as well.

    • @chefrasercooks3922
      @chefrasercooks3922 Před 2 lety +43

      EXACLTY! Setting up for a Young Avengers movie or series...

    • @Him_Downstairs36
      @Him_Downstairs36 Před 2 lety +7

      Hawkeye got cancelled. Don’t know how sure they are about a young avengers lol

    • @awesumtoast97
      @awesumtoast97 Před 2 lety +42

      @@Him_Downstairs36 Kate bishop and yelena the new hawkeye and widow.....

    • @unknownguy6883
      @unknownguy6883 Před 2 lety +1

      That's what I was thinking

    • @asafesseidonsapphire
      @asafesseidonsapphire Před 2 lety +6

      @@Him_Downstairs36 wait really? That's sad i loved that series...

  • @jwcaded
    @jwcaded Před rokem +639

    I always wait to watch these til after the movie, especially since he’s been spot on recently with marvel. But happy to see he’s dead wrong with this one!

    • @manas21899
      @manas21899 Před rokem +14

      Same dude

    • @JamesJungHyunKim
      @JamesJungHyunKim Před rokem +72

      Spoilers:
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      He came sooooo close though 😅 he thought of up (mother) and sideways (sister), all he had left to cover was the correct answer of down (daughter)

    • @jwcaded
      @jwcaded Před rokem +12

      James Kim yeah I definitely thought he was going to get there lol. Now looking back all the clues were there

    • @kankynza
      @kankynza Před rokem

      @@jwcaded ikr... what's funny is that it's literally there... Sweet *child* o' mine skdjjdkskssjsjks xD

    • @Sean-qg3gg
      @Sean-qg3gg Před rokem +14

      Another thing is that Heimdall’s son has the same pronunciation as Axl, the writer of the song.

  • @taseen7025
    @taseen7025 Před 2 lety +1960

    I think the best explanation for “sweet child o mine” is Gorr trying to save his kids and wife from a famine by praying to the gods, to which the gods don’t respond and his family dies, hence the following lyric “where do we go now”. It sets up a connection with the villain and is a lot more logical for the movie.

    • @Daltem
      @Daltem Před 2 lety +36

      What about in the gorr the god butcher comics (godbomb), that we literally saw thor's 3 daughters?

    • @Gottaloveaxolotls
      @Gottaloveaxolotls Před 2 lety +7

      Another comment here I agree with AS WELL AS being the 69th like on both

    • @obikenobi8855
      @obikenobi8855 Před 2 lety +11

      @@Daltem Weren't they his granddaughters?

    • @GamingWithMasrurElahi
      @GamingWithMasrurElahi Před 2 lety

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @Daltem
      @Daltem Před 2 lety +3

      @@obikenobi8855 still means he had a child, and as Jane's in this film, there is a path

  • @TheJammerman
    @TheJammerman Před 2 lety +2623

    Fun fact:
    The “where do we go now?” break in the actual song Sweet Child of Mine exists because when they were writing the song they weren’t really sure what to do after the guitar solo ended.

  • @LlamaLogic
    @LlamaLogic Před rokem +109

    Ahh, I love watching these videos after the movie releases. Maybe next time Mat

    • @mareksroka5629
      @mareksroka5629 Před rokem +10

      Matt may have been wrong about the child's identity, BUT was totally on point about the song significance, indeed "spoiling" the end of the movie.

    • @Lewkis01
      @Lewkis01 Před rokem +1

      Now that I've seen this, having known nothing about Angela before (I'm not a comic reader), when he mentions she appears after a multiversal tear or whatever.. I don't think she's completely ruled out as making an appearance.

  • @alexthorfinnart2937
    @alexthorfinnart2937 Před 2 lety +31

    Sweet Child of Mine could also be in reference to the loss of Gorr's family and unborn child. Just another theory that kinda fits, in a grim way. "Where do we go now?" could be in reference to Gorr's decent into madness after so much tragedy.

    • @ta_co8984
      @ta_co8984 Před rokem +2

      I dont know if you seen it but spoilers …………… it was gorrs kid but she becomes thors kid

    • @GreatDG
      @GreatDG Před rokem +4

      You are a legend dude
      You literally predicted the movie

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache Před 2 lety +4054

    16:35 “Cap is gone, Tony is gone, Natasha is gone”
    RIP. It’s even sadder when you’re being reminded that they’re gone.

    • @zcat9721
      @zcat9721 Před 2 lety +180

      There is no eastern bunny, there is no Santa cause, there is no queen of England! - megamind

    • @HeresorLegacy
      @HeresorLegacy Před 2 lety +146

      Even sadder to see him miss Hawkeye

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      @benito23453 Před 2 lety

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    • @MisterIncog
      @MisterIncog Před 2 lety +19

      @@zcat9721 it’s actually Titan, not Megamind

    • @kazumi751
      @kazumi751 Před 2 lety +2

      Hello there (again)

  • @greenbat731
    @greenbat731 Před 2 lety +4136

    I just wanna point something out. Children in Viking times actually had their last names as their fathers first name and then "son" or "dottir" depending on if they're a boy or a girl. So Thors last name is Odinson. So calling Angela Odindottir actually isn't just lame and unoriginal it's also historically accurate! The uhh... the vikings were not known for their subtlety
    Edit: as people in the comments pointed out these naming conventions don’t apply in modern times in most Scandinavian countries. Hope that clarifies things!

    • @TheAHuman
      @TheAHuman Před 2 lety +196

      For a well known example. Leif Erikson (the Viking that actually discovered the Americas) was the son of Erik The Red (whose name was Erik Thorvaldson)

    • @jorgelotr3752
      @jorgelotr3752 Před 2 lety +107

      I believe that the "not subtle" part was her original given name Aldrif, which if you check the translation means "adrift".
      Also, Icelanders still keep that custom, and some even have a secondary surname based on their paternal grandfather (-sonar). In the case of single mothers (or divorced mothers that cut off all ties with the fahter), the name used in the surname is the mother's, and in the case of people whose father has a second name, they use the one their fathers is mostly known as.
      As a side note, they've recently added -bur as an alternative for people who register themselves as "gender neutral".

    • @consberg1990
      @consberg1990 Před 2 lety +41

      I mean, it’s not like the vikings invented patronymic naming; they have found Ancient Greek pottery shards with patronymic naming on them from the 5th century BC, where the earliest recorded northmen raids wasn’t until year 700-something AD. It is also used prevalent in Arabic naming traditions and many other naming traditions. :-)
      I am just a nerdy person with an interest in linguistics, so I just had to jump in and say that.

    • @marcusanark2541
      @marcusanark2541 Před 2 lety +17

      He was talking about the Adrift part, adrift like she was lost to one universe and ended up in another...

    • @DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro
      @DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro Před 2 lety +3

      @@marcusanark2541 there was an editor’s note that directly proves u wrong lol

  • @GiubileiFernando
    @GiubileiFernando Před 2 lety +49

    I thought the song was in reference to Thor's daughter/s because he meets his descendants in the storyline they're adapting in this movie (three women), thanks to time travel shenanigans. The movie could introduce a child he had and didn't know about (maybe with Lady Syf) or outright have his daughter from the future show up.

  • @oolong2
    @oolong2 Před rokem +12

    Soooo right about the song. Sooo wrong about the theory.... 😂

  • @missingpage
    @missingpage Před 2 lety +918

    To be fair a lot of people immediately pointed out that the song had a deeper meaning to the movie. My favorite being that the song Is from Gorr's point of view

    • @DoubsGaming
      @DoubsGaming Před 2 lety +28

      I assume you are referring to the song. I know nothing about it so could you elaborate? I'm curious.

    • @aidanwiehl2397
      @aidanwiehl2397 Před 2 lety +78

      @@DoubsGaming the song is Sweet Child of Mine by Guns N Roses, and Gorr started to hate the gods when the gods didn't save Gorrs child

    • @DoubsGaming
      @DoubsGaming Před 2 lety +10

      @@aidanwiehl2397 Ok that makes sense, tell me more. Is Gorr the person who wrote the song?

    • @totallygeekedout615
      @totallygeekedout615 Před 2 lety +24

      @McDoubletap Gorr is the villain of the movie

    • @me-lx2wt
      @me-lx2wt Před 2 lety +9

      @@DoubsGaming gorr is the villain of the movie

  • @unknownvariable9239
    @unknownvariable9239 Před 2 lety +1981

    I love the trailers like this that don’t tell us too much but still leave enough room to theorize and get hyped about the movie

    • @benito23453
      @benito23453 Před 2 lety +2

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    • @Axluratt
      @Axluratt Před 2 lety +6

      So many bots lol

    • @Williamwoodiam789
      @Williamwoodiam789 Před 2 lety +8

      i hate bots

    • @BBK113
      @BBK113 Před 2 lety +1

      I be seeing you everywhere wtf I just saw you on a video from synsei on zoro

    • @loganshaw4527
      @loganshaw4527 Před 2 lety +1

      Right or the movie makers make a twist so the theory is wrong.

  • @andreugibert4890
    @andreugibert4890 Před rokem +25

    Mat pat’s problem was assuming that the MCU is capable of writing a good story nowdays

  • @GalaxysGreatestDad
    @GalaxysGreatestDad Před rokem +4

    Coming back to this after just watching the movie. Boy was this theory wayyy off...
    I still love the passion and effort you put into the videos Matt.

  • @XrosHeartless
    @XrosHeartless Před 2 lety +800

    As much as I would love to see Angela make a film appearance, Hela kind of already took her role last film. So if she does appear, it’ll likely be with an altered backstory.

    • @BoxyDoxxy
      @BoxyDoxxy Před 2 lety +2

      I I S T H E O N L Y C O M M E N T Y E S S I R

    • @karenamyx2205
      @karenamyx2205 Před 2 lety +8

      Sounds like a perfect opportunity to subvert expectations.

    • @ghostygirl__7796
      @ghostygirl__7796 Před rokem

      @@royalcookiee technically she was if you count the theatre lmao

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl Před rokem

      Just make her not evil.

  • @MagickP00dle
    @MagickP00dle Před 2 lety +96

    "Caps gone, Tony's gone, Natasha's gone. I guess Hulks still around."
    Hawkeye gets left out of everything.

    • @PrincessToyNerd
      @PrincessToyNerd Před 2 lety +3

      Hawkeye: Oh come on! Why do you always have to leave me out???

    • @MagickP00dle
      @MagickP00dle Před 2 lety +5

      @@PrincessToyNerd also Hawkeye: at least I got invited to Civil War!

  • @collinpannhoff8919
    @collinpannhoff8919 Před rokem +22

    theory was so close you even brought up who the sweet child is and were correct about how the song matters

  • @_u2
    @_u2 Před rokem +11

    One of my camp counselors was actually a special effects editor for this movie, which makes me really excited to see it in theaters.

  • @nategar412
    @nategar412 Před 2 lety +685

    Fun fact: the whole "Where do we go now?" thing came up when they were first writing and practicing the song and couldn't figure out what to put in the bridge. They started improvising and throwing spaghetti at the wall and the in joke stuck and made it into the final product.

    • @1thedanfan949
      @1thedanfan949 Před 2 lety +15

      I'm about to eat some spaghetti guess I'm making a song

    • @nategar412
      @nategar412 Před 2 lety +12

      @@1thedanfan949 sounds like a plan. By the way, thanks for commenting on this with something that wasn't spam. Lol

    • @havelthebonk1226
      @havelthebonk1226 Před 2 lety +10

      Was it a great spaghetti incident by chance ?

    • @Craftlngo
      @Craftlngo Před 2 lety

      which found a call back in the album Spaghetti Incident

  • @rosscalhoun3389
    @rosscalhoun3389 Před 2 lety +758

    Hela already took the "secret sister who has been trapped in another dimension" origin in the MCU. It would be really disappointing for them to do that two movies in a row.

    • @TheTrixman123
      @TheTrixman123 Před 2 lety +35

      Yea sad that it had to be hela Angela sounds a lot more badass

    • @steveh5458
      @steveh5458 Před 2 lety +7

      Came here to say the same thing

    • @jonasdiller4977
      @jonasdiller4977 Před 2 lety +22

      I agree, I think matpat is stretching it on that one

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper Před 2 lety +15

      It was really disappointing that Marvel removed Lady Death, changed Thanos to a misguided ecoterrorist instead of the pinnacle of "That Guy Who Thinks Escalation Is The Solution To Every Problem" trying to make a girl love him by flexing on the universe, and retconned in Thor's secret sister instead. Blocking the introduction of Angela is just one more disappointment to add to the pile.

    • @devaannandksivan3374
      @devaannandksivan3374 Před 2 lety +1

      𝙃𝙢

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement Před rokem +2

    4:01 I did not know Matpat could roll his r's this well that's neat.

  • @ImTakingFlight
    @ImTakingFlight Před rokem +5

    I doubt Angela will make an appearance, but it was hella awesome to hear her mentioned in this video. I've been an Angela fan for about 11 years, but haven't heard her mentioned since I first laid eyes on her comics. This was definitely a treat.

  • @filmandfirearms
    @filmandfirearms Před 2 lety +183

    Calling her "Odinsdottir" is just following old Norse naming conventions. That custom only died out relatively recent, a few hundred years ago, as part of a modernization and streamlining program that led to the growth of the Swedish empire. With a growing modern military, things like everyone having the same last name started to become a bit of a problem

    • @consberg1990
      @consberg1990 Před 2 lety +10

      Many common last names in all of Scandinavia still carries this tradition. If any last name ends with -son or -sen, it’s stems from “son of” patronymic meaning. Also, it didn’t die out as a practice until maybe around 150 years ago; my grandfather’s generation was around the last ones to have patronymic naming in Denmark.
      Also, while I am not Icelandic, I do believe they still do use the patronymic tradition (and being the absolute badass feminists that they are, they also have matronymic naming as well!), because the Icelandic language is very close to old Norse and as such, the Icelandic people are good at keeping the oral traditions of Norse culture alive. To my knowledge, they name their daughters and sons differently and therefore still use -son for sons, -dóttir for daughters. I remember my professor at university (who is Icelandic) telling me that they do not change last names when they marry, as your spouse isn’t suddenly the son/daughter of your mother/father. As such, even siblings could have different “last names”. I am not sure if this is still the case in 2022, but it definitely was for my professor, who is around 40-ish years old now.

    • @filmandfirearms
      @filmandfirearms Před 2 lety +3

      @@consberg1990 I can see if the Icelanders still do it, as they never really had a need to switch to the traditional Christian system like the Scandinavian Norse. I do believe it did continue in Scandinavia, but not as last names, rather being the same as the Russian patronymic system, where it's effectively the middle name. It's actually still tradition in Russia to call someone who is either older than you, or, in the military, a superior officer, by their first name and patronym. For example, if you watch Attraction, you'll see Artyom refer to Yulia's father, both Artyom's senior and a colonel, later general in the second movie, as "Valentin Yurievich"

  • @4891MR
    @4891MR Před 2 lety +218

    What about Sif? I know from cast lists available online that the Sif character is definitely going to be in this movie. She was a blonde goddess in Norse myth, although in the comics, her hair color was charged by a magic curse. She's also an old girlfriend of Thor's.

    • @anamacias9081
      @anamacias9081 Před 2 lety +12

      With Sif around Torunn being the Sweet Child becomes a possibility.

    • @antona.1327
      @antona.1327 Před 2 lety +9

      You're giving too much credit to a film made by a hack who makes comedy schlock and doesn't care what's in the comics, let alone Eddas.

    • @timberwolfe1645
      @timberwolfe1645 Před 2 lety +5

      WELLLL......VALkyrie was SUPPOSED to be blonde and blue eyed, but they wrecked her already

    • @MichaSennin
      @MichaSennin Před 2 lety +11

      what the mcu did to Sif is a crime.

    • @GamingWithMasrurElahi
      @GamingWithMasrurElahi Před 2 lety

      That's totally a possibility.

  • @killerillusionnightmare2361

    It's always scary when he gets it mostly. Oorrect accept Gorrs daughter is the sweet child

  • @el_m4ver1ck50
    @el_m4ver1ck50 Před rokem +8

    You were right on the “Sweet Child O Mine” theory 😉

    • @dylanrosen4351
      @dylanrosen4351 Před rokem +1

      He just needed to look a little more literal

  • @radekzurek3589
    @radekzurek3589 Před 2 lety +201

    Honestly, seeing how much mythology is being put into MCU, I hope they'll add someone from the Slavic mythology like Perun or Chernobog

    • @vladan9374
      @vladan9374 Před 2 lety +7

      That would be awesome

    • @ranwolf1240
      @ranwolf1240 Před 2 lety +5

      They were in the comics not too long ago as part of the Winter Guard(Russian Avengers)

    • @yash3576
      @yash3576 Před 2 lety +1

      Meanwhile I’m wondering why there hasn’t been any mention of gungnir after or before odin’s death

    • @antona.1327
      @antona.1327 Před 2 lety

      Maybe if a competent director-writer was at helm, not a comedy hack who has no grasp on the grandiose and mythological.

    • @kylepeters8690
      @kylepeters8690 Před 2 lety

      sadly I wouldn't bet on it. Both barely appear in Marvel comics, neither of them even reaching ten appearances, the perun that showed up wasn't even a god, just a super soldier who got killed in one hit. It's not impossible but I highly doubt it

  • @angrysonicbird6779
    @angrysonicbird6779 Před 2 lety +807

    What an interesting prediction. Can't eait to see Marvel crush it into dust when the characters don't appear at all.

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      @ApolloStar Před 2 lety

      Eait yes eait (funny mistake its ok :) )

    • @metal_monster7723
      @metal_monster7723 Před 2 lety

      What are you talking about

    • @kingfisherc9608
      @kingfisherc9608 Před 2 lety +1

      I also can’t eiat

    • @mauro27279
      @mauro27279 Před 2 lety +13

      why theres just bots here

  • @anilgarg4682
    @anilgarg4682 Před rokem +3

    His theory was far better than the actual movie, someone make this theory happen

  • @lukiepai9277
    @lukiepai9277 Před 2 lety +3

    lol hawkeye gets written out once again 16:30

  • @Movie_Blizzard
    @Movie_Blizzard Před 2 lety +612

    Matpat always coming through with these trailer theories lol, can't wait

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      @benito23453 Před 2 lety

      Р

    • @deprolled1989
      @deprolled1989 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/N3tHJBGSQaM/video.html ts here finally

    • @Movie_Blizzard
      @Movie_Blizzard Před 2 lety

      @don't be surprised shut up

    • @Movie_Blizzard
      @Movie_Blizzard Před 2 lety +1

      @Тhе Gаmе Shorts 🅥 stop now

  • @captainnermy5608
    @captainnermy5608 Před 2 lety +329

    I like the idea, but I doubt they would do another “long lost sister” plot immediately after Ragnorok

    • @triggerhappy4199
      @triggerhappy4199 Před 2 lety +9

      From the name of the movie they aren’t doing the sister thing

    • @heypoop3053
      @heypoop3053 Před 2 lety

      @@triggerhappy4199 y not

    • @1_FLASKFAN
      @1_FLASKFAN Před 2 lety

      yer cmmotn getr stolrn by bor

    • @rimurutempest4945
      @rimurutempest4945 Před 2 lety +4

      On the other hand, it sounds like a really good setup for a joke

    • @Daltem
      @Daltem Před 2 lety +3

      What about in the gorr the god butcher comics (godbomb), that we literally saw thor's 3 daughters?

  • @mayocorp14
    @mayocorp14 Před rokem +3

    So close! The song was important, just not in the way this theory theorized. Well done!

  • @tiktokgirls9001
    @tiktokgirls9001 Před 2 lety +17

    MatPat always coming through with these trailer theories lol, can't wait.

  • @GuardianOfFreyja
    @GuardianOfFreyja Před 2 lety +47

    "Odinsdottir, real subtle..."
    I mean, that's how Norse names worked, and still do in Iceland at least. The Prime Minister of Iceland for example is Katrín Jakobsdóttir.

    • @danyk636
      @danyk636 Před 2 lety +4

      I think he means in combination with her first name “aldrif”, at the bottom of the screen he put the translation of her full name as “adrift odin’s daughter”, so not just her last name (14:17)

  • @ashly9910
    @ashly9910 Před 2 lety +457

    I would love for Angela to show up, but it’d probably be awkward to have the “lost sister omg” plot again :(

    • @kipislekker5829
      @kipislekker5829 Před 2 lety +13

      I want Jormungandr and Magni and Modi

    • @deemee009
      @deemee009 Před 2 lety +10

      Yeah that’s exactly what I thought. I hope they keep it simple

    • @loganshaw4527
      @loganshaw4527 Před 2 lety +6

      I want the Phoenix to show up as a long lost mom. But we did have issues with mom issues back in thor2 and endgame.

    • @LunaWitcher
      @LunaWitcher Před 2 lety +30

      Honestly having the "lost sister omg" plot again would be funny if they acknowledge it. "How many sisters do you have???"

    • @gilliganIII
      @gilliganIII Před 2 lety +14

      Yeah, but it would be a very Taika Waititi joke.

  • @flamelover1746
    @flamelover1746 Před rokem +3

    You were definitely on the right track here. All about parental love.

  • @engage2549
    @engage2549 Před rokem +4

    You were almost right!

    • @Phoenix19851
      @Phoenix19851 Před rokem +1

      He wasn't even close to being right.

  • @j1227
    @j1227 Před 2 lety +391

    What if the girl is Torunn Thorsdóttir, an ending with a another daughter to fill her father’s legacy would be fitting with Morgan and Cassie.

    • @akale2620
      @akale2620 Před 2 lety +2

      Cassie cage?

    • @jameschambers3981
      @jameschambers3981 Před 2 lety +7

      @@akale2620 cassie lang

    • @himum3429
      @himum3429 Před 2 lety +6

      @@akale2620 😂 I fuckn love Cassie Cage lol. She just comes out of nowhere and steals my favourite characters (Liu Kang) whole schtick of being the chosen one. Yet I still end up loving her character. Best of the new mk characters imo.

    • @bucktiger33
      @bucktiger33 Před 2 lety

      Fits in with the M-SHE-U

    • @Kike-ti8xr
      @Kike-ti8xr Před 2 lety +7

      Mabye Jane was pregnant and kept her hidden...for reasons. Or maybe by the end of the movie he has a child with some new love interest, who knows?...

  • @ayom5600
    @ayom5600 Před 2 lety +221

    The music direction in MCU always felt vital to set each stage of it. Excited to see what musicians provide to them next.

    • @benito23453
      @benito23453 Před 2 lety +1

      MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):.
      czcams.com/video/cAQxPSwM4h0/video.html

  • @HelloMyDoods
    @HelloMyDoods Před rokem +1

    14:25 this actually wasn’t lazy naming but rather cultural research. In ancient Nordic nations (and even sometimes used modernly, specifically in iceland) taking the dads name and adding son or dotter was actually the status quo

  • @northk1448
    @northk1448 Před rokem +5

    I like how Matt Patt probably spent hours on creating these 2 theories just for the song not to have any relevance with the movie.

    • @jpeg..
      @jpeg.. Před rokem +1

      He did get the villain

    • @northk1448
      @northk1448 Před rokem

      @@jpeg.. The villian was already confirmed to be gorr in like March.

    • @jpeg..
      @jpeg.. Před rokem

      @@northk1448 oh

    • @Malthizar
      @Malthizar Před rokem +1

      The Sweet Child of Mine song was Gorr singing about his daughter.

    • @northk1448
      @northk1448 Před rokem

      @@Malthizar Love has brown eyes and isn’t blond

  • @MouseCreations
    @MouseCreations Před 2 lety +65

    16:40 wow, MatPat just COMPLETELY forgot about how Hawkeye is still alive.

    • @hellchaos9991
      @hellchaos9991 Před 2 lety +9

      I was looking for this comment

    • @JayC_x
      @JayC_x Před 2 lety +5

      Nope disney Cancelled it

    • @gamedifficulty_4230
      @gamedifficulty_4230 Před 2 lety +9

      “Hawkeye? He’s not an Avenger” - CinemaSins

    • @jonjonr6
      @jonjonr6 Před 2 lety +4

      everyone pretty much forgot Hawkeye.... is alive.

    • @playstation.e7703
      @playstation.e7703 Před rokem +1

      And thats why he became my favorite avenger

  • @superjumpbros64
    @superjumpbros64 Před 2 lety +201

    Here we go again, will Matpat be right or will he fail misery? Find out next timeeeee

  • @whatnosense
    @whatnosense Před 2 lety

    Truly love your channel, thank you!

  • @wintersoldier1998
    @wintersoldier1998 Před rokem +5

    Sweet child of mine. That is thats the huge spoiler.

  • @jamesbee3087
    @jamesbee3087 Před 2 lety +41

    I'm a minute thirty seven second in and my guess it's about Gorr's child, who wasn't saved by the gods. Gorr's sweet child died and the God did nothing to stop it.

    • @kaine8911
      @kaine8911 Před 2 lety

      Negative

    • @jamesbee3087
      @jamesbee3087 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kaine8911 says the person with zero idea of plot.

    • @kaine8911
      @kaine8911 Před 2 lety

      @@jamesbee3087 What??? I watched the video, I know its "plot" I'm saying you were wrong about the video being about Gorr's child.

  • @Peyton_S
    @Peyton_S Před 2 lety +339

    Whenever a new Marvel trailer drops, you know MatPat will make theories on it. 😃

  • @stev009
    @stev009 Před 2 lety +3

    I like how he says spoiler alert 7:34 after spoiling about the dark celestials

  • @kingredpanda9864
    @kingredpanda9864 Před 2 lety +1

    love the theories! i hope one day matpat can look back at these theories and say to him self "Wow.I was such a nerd." in a good way of course

  • @King_Of_Games
    @King_Of_Games Před 2 lety +111

    What’s gonna be hilarious is if Jane Foster becomes pregnant with Thors child and Mat pac is both on the right track and completely wrong yet again

    • @joelsasmad
      @joelsasmad Před 2 lety +7

      The child could have the blue eyes and blonde hair.

    • @erubianwarlord8208
      @erubianwarlord8208 Před 2 lety

      @@joelsasmad yes she does fair hand with a sword too not to mention she threw Ultron off of earth at the climax of the movie

  • @rileycox1895
    @rileycox1895 Před 2 lety +60

    What I’m most interested in is the prospect of The Necrosword. Gorr uses it in the comics gaining it from the defeated Knull, witch means Knull could be the next villain. I love this future

    • @michaeltipler5674
      @michaeltipler5674 Před 2 lety +8

      No. No. No. No Sony property

    • @NomdePlume337
      @NomdePlume337 Před rokem +1

      They made a Knull theory a while back. I think it might have been one of The Eternals theories

    • @sukhoisu-75checkmate24
      @sukhoisu-75checkmate24 Před rokem

      knull holds the title of killing celestials and external god of the abyss and lord of the symbiotes

  • @jonathanmarleau1322
    @jonathanmarleau1322 Před rokem +3

    Well sweet child of mine was more literal than we thought

  • @JLov3RnB
    @JLov3RnB Před 2 lety +2

    Giving a comment just cuz I know it helps buddy. Keep up the great work mat. Love your energy and work ethic 💪🏾

  • @grandmasterscott
    @grandmasterscott Před 2 lety +199

    Something I think needs to be said is that thanks to the Darkhold being introduced in Wandavision after it was introduced in Agents of Shield, we could see Ghost Rider make an appearance in the MCU

    • @aidenflame1576
      @aidenflame1576 Před 2 lety +1

      Wait 2ait wait ghist rider is part of the dark hold?

    • @grandmasterscott
      @grandmasterscott Před 2 lety

      @@aidenflame1576 sorta. I don’t want to spoil

    • @Kinobambino
      @Kinobambino Před 2 lety

      @@grandmasterscott ? you can't spoil it it hasn't happened. ghost rider is apart of the dark hold?

    • @grandmasterscott
      @grandmasterscott Před 2 lety +6

      @@Kinobambino he took the darkhold at the end of his season of Agents of Shield after they saw what dangerous power it has (it tricks a person into gaining god-like power while corrupting them). He made a sling ring portal with his chain and wasn’t seen or mentioned since

    • @jd6865
      @jd6865 Před 2 lety

      Boy oh boy do you need to watch Multiverse of Madness

  • @lindygrace7854
    @lindygrace7854 Před 2 lety +8

    4:00 catchy old song brrr

  • @PerPerPera
    @PerPerPera Před rokem +3

    Just came back from the cinema, Matpat predicted that the song will be linked to the plot

  • @cpouyioukka4519
    @cpouyioukka4519 Před 2 lety

    Mind blown once again.. Your theories never seize to amaze

  • @jmpurdy1609
    @jmpurdy1609 Před 2 lety +292

    Hi Matpat I would really enjoy it if you made “A series of unfortunate events” theory’s. Thank you and I hope you have a great day.

    • @jmpurdy1609
      @jmpurdy1609 Před 2 lety +9

      I also think many other people would like it.

    • @gs0760
      @gs0760 Před 2 lety +8

      Dude, yes!!

    • @wanaan
      @wanaan Před 2 lety +8

      And also getting back to more sciency root too, like the strength of human teeth, physics of some of the crazier contraptions, etc. Good suggestion.

    • @dryiced2459
      @dryiced2459 Před 2 lety +4

      That was my favoite show until it ended. i like your idea about a theory but I don't think there will be any new seasons :(

    • @jmpurdy1609
      @jmpurdy1609 Před 2 lety +8

      @@dryiced2459 I don’t think that there will be new seasons but I would like it because there are many things that can be theorized about.

  • @Fist_Of_Khonshu
    @Fist_Of_Khonshu Před 2 lety +59

    Oh god if they actually adapted the phoenix bull that Aaron's been sticking in his awful Avengers run I think I'd cry, thankfully that's definitely not the case considering how recent it is

    • @Gfurys
      @Gfurys Před 2 lety +1

      Ong

    • @jvbon646
      @jvbon646 Před 2 lety +5

      God bless Cates for the recent God of Hammers arc pushing in favor of Gaia instead of the Phoenix Force

    • @marcelcjr9313
      @marcelcjr9313 Před 2 lety +1

      I don’t know why y’all hate it so much. Trust me you guys did not care less who was Thor’s mother.

    • @Gfurys
      @Gfurys Před 2 lety +1

      @@marcelcjr9313 It's really dumb and makes absolutely no sense, as expected, after all it's Jason Aaron we're talking about

    • @marcelcjr9313
      @marcelcjr9313 Před 2 lety

      @@Gfurys I don’t know why you guys make it a big deal. Trust me, Thors mother doesn’t matter. This is not Bruce Wayne

  • @Freshmakermentos
    @Freshmakermentos Před rokem +3

    you were right about the song tho

  • @mistersircode
    @mistersircode Před rokem +3

    This genuinely feels like one of your most cohesive videos.

  • @TeamAquaLeaderArchy
    @TeamAquaLeaderArchy Před 2 lety +20

    Out of the topics conveyed in this video I am more inclined to believe the first one with the X-Men connection because they've already done the whole surprise sister plot with Ragnarok

  • @anamacias9081
    @anamacias9081 Před 2 lety +18

    The whole bringing Jane as a kind of Goddess now, the sweet child thing and the fact that we already have Wanda's twins, a recast for Cassie and Kate bishop might be pointing us to Torunn as the sweet child. I know she's Sif's daughter but they could theoretically change things to make her Jane's and she would be a really cool addition to the Young Avengers lineup they seem to be forming.

    • @NeonWafflez707
      @NeonWafflez707 Před 2 lety

      I wish Cassie wasn’t recasted. Kinda sucks.

  • @ForestRaptor
    @ForestRaptor Před rokem +1

    Well you were right that the music is giving out the plot in the Trailer song ^^

  • @pkmntrainerred4247
    @pkmntrainerred4247 Před 2 lety +4

    9:27
    Me: You *ARE* the mother!

  • @Ready_Set_Boom
    @Ready_Set_Boom Před 2 lety +8

    The child is Mjölnir. He even had it in a lil cradle when he lived with Daryl during Civil War.

  • @shadowdragon3521
    @shadowdragon3521 Před 2 lety +20

    Brilliant idea analyzing the song in the trailer, looking back at Ragnarok it's shocking how well its trailer songs foreshadows the film.

  • @The_irishman_co
    @The_irishman_co Před 2 lety

    Truly baffled by your efforts behind these vids. Such good work.

  • @ismingo4264
    @ismingo4264 Před 2 lety

    I loved that little picture about Erik and the breakdowns

  • @grotesquenathan2515
    @grotesquenathan2515 Před 2 lety +59

    I love seeing the Theorist team's theories about new Marvel movies! This movie looks amazing!!

  • @jaketaller8567
    @jaketaller8567 Před 2 lety +5

    7:57 Now that's an Ice Age reboot I'd like to see.

  • @beswa
    @beswa Před rokem +2

    Video could of been done in second.
    Trailer song is about gorrs daughter
    "Sweet child of mine"
    Matt part wrong again

  • @TheRealLastJedi721
    @TheRealLastJedi721 Před 2 lety +1

    Love this channel’s theory’s hope we get to see Thor’s sister in this film can’t wait to see what marvel do with these films

  • @IceMetalPunk
    @IceMetalPunk Před 2 lety +10

    MatPat: "Avengers 10,000 BC is a thing."
    On-screen photo: "Avengers 1,000,000 BC."
    Matt, your order of magnitude is off juuusssstttt a bit.

  • @X-SPONGED
    @X-SPONGED Před 2 lety +7

    9:37
    Matt : "Right now, The Comic is left on a Cliffhanger, waiting for a Resolution."
    The TF2 Fandom still waiting for Their 7th Comic : _"Hey, I've seen this one before"_

  • @eddieg.9568
    @eddieg.9568 Před 2 lety

    This theory is great and would totally blow my mind if it happens!!

  • @pixelxmick1796
    @pixelxmick1796 Před 2 lety +1

    I need a film theory about the long standing series “Super Sycamore” an action series for kids in the Sycamore Cinematic Universe, they have 82 episodes and multiple seasons with backstories

  • @Scorpiosgraphx
    @Scorpiosgraphx Před 2 lety +127

    Yeah i dont think the Phoenix will show up in the mcu just yet. The Phoenix then requires including the M’kran crystal and the host. So they would have to include a mutant. It could only work because of the Gods theme in the MCU but it would take a lot of build up. I think we will see Angela but briefly and probably at the end like they introduced Eros on the eternals. However, I would like to see Angela as the Queen of Asgard with Valkyrie. I would believe the Angela theory before the Phoenix theory.

    • @kubobetterrelax7435
      @kubobetterrelax7435 Před 2 lety

      m'kraan crystal isn't mentioned all that much in the comics, so I don't think they would have to involve that. Just say PF is the nexus of realities

  • @timmitytom
    @timmitytom Před 2 lety +60

    I am absolutely shocked Matthew never brought up the possibility that Zeus could be Thor's father all along, and Odin raised *two* adopted sons.

    • @tristansmith8978
      @tristansmith8978 Před 2 lety +5

      Just no

    • @maxmcgar5732
      @maxmcgar5732 Před 2 lety +3

      Hercules wouldn't like that option

    • @tomasgarraxia5375
      @tomasgarraxia5375 Před 2 lety

      @@maxmcgar5732 yeahh where would be Hercules

    • @superrooster18
      @superrooster18 Před 2 lety

      Explains how weak he is compared to Odin.

    • @tatersalad76
      @tatersalad76 Před 2 lety

      @@superrooster18 if the guy who nearly killed Thanos with the full power of the Infinity Gauntlet is "weak" to you, you've gotta re-establish what you think the power levels are

  • @DanielCornwall519
    @DanielCornwall519 Před rokem +2

    Dang MatPat, you are like 95% correct with this one…. Oh well another great video. Keep them coming please. :)

  • @lightludology9081
    @lightludology9081 Před rokem +1

    Could the blond hair blue eyes person be Zeus? He's already shown in the trailer, and he could have been a childhood friend turned sour and now it's them interacting as adults. I could see him being the main antagonist

  • @wandamaximoff9895
    @wandamaximoff9895 Před 2 lety +47

    Ah, my favourite theorist whose theories may not come true but are no less entertaining than the movie itself

    • @deprolled1989
      @deprolled1989 Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/N3tHJBGSQaM/video.html ts here finally

    • @benito23453
      @benito23453 Před 2 lety

      MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео):.
      czcams.com/video/cAQxPSwM4h0/video.html

    • @CJDaBomb69
      @CJDaBomb69 Před 2 lety

      Fax

  • @krze1226
    @krze1226 Před 2 lety +4

    6:04 i just got the exact same ad that was playing in the video. The chance of that happening

  • @j2174
    @j2174 Před 2 lety +1

    I feel as though they would only do the Heven bit so that it kind of makes aspects of Hawkworld and the Hawks in DC feel done. Feige is regularly trying to box DC in.

  • @theghm_
    @theghm_ Před 2 lety

    Finally!
    Music Theory

  • @VictiniTheGreat
    @VictiniTheGreat Před 2 lety +16

    I feel like since Ragnarok already did the whole "lost sister" trope that if it ends up being Angela it will feel like lazy writing

  • @Jt-lp9ki
    @Jt-lp9ki Před 2 lety +236

    I dont see either of these being viable, one would think we would have heard of casting news or something if it was Angela - you forgot to even address Valkyrie who is going to play a very large role in the film. The phoenix force here would be too confusing for casual movie going audiences without some prior setup. They both seem like a real stretch.

    • @hammerofluke2013
      @hammerofluke2013 Před 2 lety +4

      It would be cool though 😂

    • @hammerofluke2013
      @hammerofluke2013 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MrHouloul dude wth are you talking about rn

    • @MrHouloul
      @MrHouloul Před 2 lety

      @@hammerofluke2013 lol. Just a quick reminders, because these times, people are to much untertained and forget their purpose in this life. Sorry if it was random.

    • @MrHouloul
      @MrHouloul Před 2 lety

      @Galactus what lie

    • @gamblertoguru382
      @gamblertoguru382 Před 2 lety +1

      Who doesn't know about the Phoenix Force by now? We've had two crappy movies about it lol.I think fans of comic book movies are alot more informed than they once were. Would be a great way to introduce the X-men and set up Avengers vs X-Men as well. So my vote is that its the Phoenix Force. But it will probably be Angela unfortunately.

  • @ricktifierful
    @ricktifierful Před 2 lety

    Fun bit of info, only tangentially related, Sweet Child O' Mine's main guitar riff was created when Slash was playing something that reminded him of circuses/clowns.

  • @omarrandom7018
    @omarrandom7018 Před rokem +8

    Who is here after the movie?

  • @aarry4819
    @aarry4819 Před 2 lety +43

    I think the child could be gorr with the song choice being from his mother's pov and the the tone shift is a shift to gorrs prospective after his mother’s death

  • @nobodyfamousX
    @nobodyfamousX Před 2 lety +37

    I really like watching these predictive theories and I'm looking forward to watching it since I just started the video, but I have to say I find it kind of weird that you haven't done any moon knight theories yet.
    Maybe one will come out soon to try and predict the last episode or two. Just something I noticed because you usually are all over the Disney plus shows.

  • @jojo_swan2326
    @jojo_swan2326 Před rokem +7

    Even tho you covered three bases, you somehow still managed to be wrong

    • @ResidentKen
      @ResidentKen Před rokem

      Great observation. You must be super fun.

    • @kellereclub3828
      @kellereclub3828 Před rokem +1

      @@ResidentKen We're here again because we were disappointed by the film. What else can we say? Nice words don't come easy.

    • @quacksun5959
      @quacksun5959 Před rokem

      @@kellereclub3828 y were u disappointed by the film

    • @kellereclub3828
      @kellereclub3828 Před rokem

      @@quacksun5959 The film also lacked one important thing that makes a good Marvel film - crazy reshoots - usually the film will get vetted by an internal working group and go through a continual iterative process of reshooting reediting revision until perfection. But it looked like they didn't control Taika Waititi enough. They assumed the formula would work just like Ragnarok and the gamble of putting too much faith in the director failed to pay off.

    • @quacksun5959
      @quacksun5959 Před rokem

      @@kellereclub3828 I’m not gonna pretend to understand that but I can say it captured the most important elements of a movie, had tons of parallels and connections between the characters even with the villains and was a top 6 marvel movie for me

  • @treasey8655
    @treasey8655 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you make a theory video about the infamous Dollar trilogy by Sergio Leone? In particular about the question if Clint Eastwood plays the same character in all 3 movies or if he's a different character each time. pretty please 🙏

  • @rairinekoine
    @rairinekoine Před 2 lety +6

    13:02 "MIRCALE" oof
    Other than that, interesting theories for thought, let's see if any of these end up calling it

  • @LitKing3k
    @LitKing3k Před 2 lety +26

    I really enjoy watching these theories without worrying about getting spoiled!

  • @TicklePickle12345
    @TicklePickle12345 Před 2 lety

    i love gnr so i got every reference you did.

  • @misiekgluchowski1436
    @misiekgluchowski1436 Před 2 lety +1

    it is funny how he shows Angela being killed as a child with a medieval polish sword of a king
    i think it was called "Szczerbiec"