Conor McGregor's 'First Punch' at UFC 229 Brawl | SiriusXM | Luke Thomas
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- Conor McGregor took part in the post-UFC 229 brawl after Khabib Nurmagomedov jumped the cage to attack Dillon Danis. Some have argued it is McGregor who threw the first punch and the MMA media have ignored it. Is that true? No, it's not, at least not in the way it is being presented.
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Hey Luke. No one is saying that Conor is the origin on all of this. All the people are saying is that media made it look like Conor is just an innocent victim here, and people were condemning the allegation that khabib's team initiated the melee inside the ring. So they want to point out Conor was the one who threw the first punch in the ring. And they are saying that theres a possibility that if Conor didnt throw the first punch, the teammates may not have jumped in and melee inside the ring would've been prevented. That's all.
Clearly you haven't been reading any of the comments... Either that or you are just plain ignoring them.
Either way, Connor's punch was thrown AFTER Khabib went flying into the crowd like a mad man, and AFTER a person on Khabib's team was aggressively climbing the fence (a place he's not supposed to be) coming at Conor.
This is exactly my problem with ppl defending Conor. Nothing else
@@eldiego68 - only they're not defending Conor, rather, they are pointing out irrefutable facts and morons like you who fail at simple logic keep on misconstrueing it as favoritism or pointing out the irrelevant.
AndyB your tone alone reveals your bias. And your choice of words suggest you’re salty asf... but please continue
the problem is Chris if you have read any of the comments, that a lot of people are trying to say that Conors punch is the origin of the problem
Your missing the point, Dana said that zubira will be cut by the ufc for doing exactly the same thing Conor did. the favoritism needs to stop
So we are just going to ignore the fact that khabib started the everything?
I dont know.. Dana said after Dolly that Artem will never fight in UFC
@@murmurmurmurmur4746 oh it's this guy again. The salt miner trying to recover from Conor's loss by making this account and then commenting the same thing multiple times on multiple mma videos. How's that working out for you? Forget Conor got dominated yet?
Hoque asadul No, Zubira did NOT do the “exact same thing”. The fact that you’re straight out lying about what’s clearly shown tells me how much you’re choosing to play sides instead of looking at things the way they are
@@KnarBurger the name is to make people like you mad it's really fun 😂
The media was against khabib , the UFC was against khabib and now their downplaying khabibs performance in any manner and now their suggesting that connor had a two year layoff yh to prepare for khabib , if i had two years to prepare for an exam and fail , people would call me retarded.
Yo, that made me laugh. I haven't laughed all day. Thank you very much. "2 years to study for an exam and fail"....Yeah, they make Conor out to be the victim and Khabib to be the villain but if not for the video then they could spin it like that. But even with the video they are still trying to spin it...
Bu Rida stfu
word!
They hate Khabib because the UFC is controlled by Retarded Republicans even though a majority of fighters and fans are Liberal. Chael brought politics in this in a way that had absolutely nothing to do with his point. Chael talks like he fights. He got destroyed by that tough-ass Russian (Fedor) due to a series of bad decisions. The only time he was dominant the whole fight he somehow managed to fu*k up 😂
I agree with Luke on some points
But he keeps saying once it’s a brawl all bets are off doesn’t matter if Conor hit first
If all bets are off then why is it a problem the 2 guys jumped in.
Because they targeted a guy who had just done 4 hard rounds. "All bets are off" doesn't give you a free pass to assault people.
Saghir Ahmed: Good point...Very logical to me but to those that support Conor you can never make them see this logic. It's almost as if they worship this guy. Khabib's supporters have a healthy level of respect and love for him but Conor's fans worship him-it seems.
@@Seraphimpoet it goes both ways
All bests are off does give you a free pass to assault people *if* you are conor, and you are not allowed to assault conor, no matter what he does. If say Latifi came off that bus after having a dolly thrown at the bus he was on attacked with a weapon by conor and laid into conor and fucked him up, they would be screaming blue murder and doing everything to punish latifi and would demonize him. I say latifi would be justified for putting conor in intensive care at that incident, because he was minding his own business when conor attacked the group he was with, with a weapon and a goon squad.
Amen brother, I've got no idea why there's so much bias and prejudice towards conor. Are most mma fans and media really stupid sheep?
I just don't see the sucker punch Conor received as any worse than the one he gave, like you guys seem to.
Dude just got destroyed and was confused c mon
Khabib’s friends hit Conor BECAUSE Conor hit Khabib’s brother FIRST... does not justify. But there should be EQUAL punishments. Why are ONLY Khabib’s friends being punished ?????
Why was khabibs brother in conors corner? hes lucky he only got 2 slaps? Also if it was in reaction to mcgregors slap that they jumped into the octagon then why did they brag about doing it BEFORE and after the event?
@@Chinsofdepression slap? He straight cold cocked him. The same way he got suckered for doing it. The only inocent person involved in that brawl was khabibs brother. Everyone else who threw down is guilty in their part is escalating it. Just another salty Conor fan.
He didn't hit him, he sucker punched him like a coward, then got one back
There was already a brawl going on, and his brother was about to go over the cage. Why wouldn't Conor hit him? The fight was on. That guy was going over to get involved in the brawl.
Cop logic, Connor is a snake confirmed.
People only care because media originally said he got attacked for no reason. Fans are saying 'not true'. The reason the argument continues is because Conor has his money and Khabib does not. At this point, few people continue to care about the hysteria itself.
Why is that because khabib started it duh
khabib the humble muslim Nope... That's because the day after they had given Conor his purse, that's when they found additional video of Conor. Why do you think Conor was eventually suspended for the exact amount of time Khabib was. There were 2 separate fights that were started the one Khabib started outside the octagon and then the one Conor started inside the octagon
@@KadeemLiburd Fair point. I doubt Conor would have hit that guy if khabib didn't attack his team he should be punished the most then Conor then the guy who hit Conor
Right? Fans aren't saying the punch from Conor started the fight. They are saying that the punch is WHY the two in the ring attacked Conor. The argument is why they attacked Conor. It doesn't make it right BUT it is why they attacked him in the argument. The brawl was started by khabib. Luke is either being willfully ignorant of the argument or he genuinely didn't understand it. I don't think anyone is saying the melee was starting it
That’s why Conner got hit at all, when they tell the story without that fact it shifts the whole story!!!
Wrong. Khabibs team mate said it was pre planned. Nice try.
Idiots...
Also Conors purse wanst held... Dana talks to him and comes out "people jumped on Conor" .. oh really
@@jakerandal3337 no they intended to get to Connor some how but that would probably have happened in the tunnel or behind the scenes. Connor hitting the guy first gave them the opportunity to attack him in the octagon.
@@jakerandal3337 He didn't say it was pre planned... Brendan Schaub said it was
for instance, is anyone talking about Conor cheating al night, garbing the fence with hands, feet, grabbing gloves, grabbing shorts, knee to the head while on ground, anyone? perhaps you Luke? also the UFC camera man getting out of focus the Conor's foot while he's grabbing the fence? anyone?
herb dean is a joke !!
This literally has nothing to do with the brawl after the fight. If the brawl didn't happen, I'm sure people would talk about it. Conor cheated his ass off in the fight(which almost every fighter does) and still lost. The biggest story is the fucking world champion JUMPING OUT OF A CAGE when 2.4million paying customers, and millions more non paying are watching. That's a problem.
Yeah never happen before. DC didnt became double champ using eye poke to. Khabib won, stop with the crying.
and herb dean saw it all...
ok, lets take sportsmanship into context and example for kids, and young men, sor what about Conor presenting himself drunk and promoting whiskey to a sports event, doesn't that hurts the sport? my point here is that UFC and most of the media is bias toward Conor and that kinda sucks, at the end we're gonna keep watching UFC but... it still sucks, Artem was with Conor on the bus attack, why hasn't been fired? or when it happened?
Here's what ur missing Luke...the "conor threw the first punch" answer is to the question "why was conor in the altercation with khabib’s cornermen". During and immediately afterward, the reporting/commenting was that conor was attacked in the ring unprovoked and was a targeted victim. The fact of the matter is that without conor sucker-punching the cornerman straddling the fence the fisticuffs with conor would not have occured.
They were jumping over to attack Conors teammates, dipshit.
Ryan Franks the melee outside the ring was already broken up by then...twenty police and 30 security guards were between the cage and conor's team outside the ring. Guess that makes you a double dipshit then?
It's because it was knabibs cousin. Conor stopped for a second to look at him before he punched him. Conor knew that was Knabibs cousin. They all know each other you see.
Nice straw man Luke. What people are trying to show is that the 2nd part of this melee was caused by Conor himself, not Khabib. I believe if Conor didn't punch the member of Khabib's team while on the top of the cage, he wouldn't have got jumped.
Exactly!
Lol Khabib launched himself out of the cage to attack Conors teammate. Conor went up on the cage to defend him and saw that a member of Khabibs team went up on the cage to follow khabib and help him. So Conor hit the guy to stop him. Makes perfect sense to me. Khabib should not have attacked Dillion. He won the fight but absolutley fucked himself after that
the term is SUCKER PUNCHED... and by a hate baiting egoist with no morals or respect for anything but his ego. after what, years of name calling and worse he got his comeuppance, McNuggets reaps what he sows. end of story
Actually it was not just Khabib who attacked Danis. There was 2 other guys that attacked him by the time Conor was on the fence. I get why Conor hit the guy on the fence. Khabib and his crew of 6-8 guys cornered one of Conor's teammates at a hotel and slapped him prior to the bus incident. Now this is the 2nd time they ganged up on someone. Maybe Conor hit the guy to keep him from joining the fight on Danis. Either way Conor and that guy were restrained for several seconds before the guy attacked Conor from behind. Conor did not cause a 6 on 1 at the hotel, a 3 on 1 against Danis or another 3 on 1 against himself. That being said I am glad Conor lost.
>> Conor went up on the cage to defend him
>>member of Khabibs team went up on the cage to follow Khabib and help him
Uhm OK, but why not the other way around?
My take on that particular moment was that the older guy from Khabib's team was trying to get to Khabib to defend him and Connor for whatever reason wasn't having any of that. One thing is clear here. If not that punch, 2nd melee inside the cage may not have happened. First one meanwhile was contained quickly. And that's not trying to blame anybody, just stating the obvious.
*sigh* I'll explain it if you want or not...Most of us were disgusted that Connor was attacked/amubushed in the cage while he was tired and beat up after the fight. That's what everyone was going along with, including the media. But then we realize, oh wait, before that happened, Connor was hitting some guy on top of the cage, and then he was attacked. No one, not a single person I've talked to, said Connor started the entire thing, the way you are saying in the video. What everyone is saying is that Connor would have been 100% left alone if it wasn't for what he did on top of the cage. It would have been between Danis and Khabib. Before it looked like he was blind sided/jumped for no apparent reason...almost as if this was all planned. But now, everyone sees that he was attacked BECAUSE of what he was doing. 2 totally different scenarios. It really had nothing to do with the melee outside of the cage at all, that's why you're so confused. If you are saying otherwise, please post the comments you're talking about, because I've seen zero saying what you said in the video.
Now this guy is smart! It's the best clear explanation of what happened in the cage!!! Bravo!
@@doji-san I appreciate that...no idea how Luke is so damn confused...
And Ariel didn't acknowledge the punch on the fence even on Monday..although I wouldn't say it was separate, just a missing part of the story, Khabib sparked it off, but then Conor provoked his own attackers, even if it was premeditated, unfortunately Conor gave them an excuse to follow through...
Ian Ross.Thats all fine what u said, but in my opinion, Even if it wasnt planned, they couldnt wait to punch connor, some of Khabibs Cornermans even promised to their fans, u can see them brag about it in their own videos. But still lets just assume they didnt planned it, after Khabib started the brawl, Connor jumped the cage cause he wanted to go down and help his people, and Khabibs brother jumped the cage as well very close to connor, I believe he wanted to attack Connor but before that he evaluated whats best to do can he help Khabib if he goes down or not, or should he start beating Connor up since hes so close to him, and thats when Connor hit him first in my opinion and either way if any of them can get down to Khabib and Dylen, they both would have start try to punch the opposite. Now whatever Connor did there, as bad it is, literally every Khabib team members wanted to do the same that was their intent, nothing proves this more than the fact that 3 of Khabibs guys went after Connor instead of tryin to help their main guy, Khabib. And if Connors act, that suckerpunch he threw u find disgusting, I find it much worse when 2 other guy run him down, one from behind. Connor hit one guy and than that one guy started to fight with him. It was a 1 vs 1, until 2 other guy joined. From that moment its more like a Lynch than a fight. Thats the worst of it all for me, you know interestingly u didnt see John Kavanaugh or Owen Rody start punching Khabib in the face after Khabib jumped Dillan. This gang mentality this barbaric shit thats the reason why that 2 guy needs to leave the ufc imo. And Im not mad at Khabib really, I understand why he did what he did, but his two mates, exclude Khabibs brother, but the two other, imo people should talk about them and not the fact that connor hit Khabibs brother, Khabibs brother hit back and they started to fight. And if thats where it ends, nobody would take Connors side for sure.
@@Gyurat There is a big difference between wanting to do something a doing something. We can't read minds. And no, I wasn't disgusted with what Connor did. I was only disgusted when I thought, incorrectly, that Khabib's men ambushed Connor for no apparent reason. That wasn't the case. Again, I emphasize that if Connor had not attacked anyone, he wouldn't have been attacked. But since he did, it's all fair game. In the end, everyone recognizes that the melee started that night because of Khabib's actions...that's not how a champion should act. It would have been more of an exclamation mark if he did what Tyron Woodley did after his fight with Till. Just get up and walk away. I just don't understand how Luke doesn't understand that. I can tell by the dislikes in this video I'm not the only one who had the same reaction to the melee vs. this video.
Because it's the only reason Khabib's friends "spilled into the ring" to confront Conor
They were already in the ring idiot. Conor never left the ring so how would he throw a punch unless someone was approaching him? Literal Idiot.
Its was planned. He said on social media. Nice try to lie tho. the dude he punches is on top of the cage to go after Conor. Fan girl of khabib or you just like to lie? Little rat
no point posting on chael rogan luke n brendan they all have acknowledged the backlash from fans but wont accept it because of danas cock ; we need a new mma journalist plzzzz
Wow you're as casual as casual gets.
Jacob Sittre u talking to me sir?
7:11 exactly the reason zubaira and the other guy attacked Conor
soaofficial Boom! Exactly!
Wrong. They said it was pre planned. Nice try.
Zubair squared up with Conor he could of sucker punched him he didnt, guy in the red sucker punchde him
Reptilian Monk yea he squared up and Conor made his fucking neck rattle . 3 times .
2 separate melees after the fight one outside one inside both start by each fighter.
Really it doesn’t even matter who started and who finished it
The brawl was fun to watch personally I loved it .
No one should get fired
Khabib and Conor should get small fines and everyone move on
The bus incident already set the *bad* precedent.
I agree
@@yodathecloverholder69 nah, just toss money at people anywhere at anytime and let em fight. 1v1 me bro. Pick the map.
Luke Luke Luke - if you see the comments, you know how many of us disagree with you which you have missed the points. Come on, you guys, the media, need to REALLY SPEAK the true as you guys are the voices of MMA and hope it would not go toward drama like WWE. This is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. You have said, media did speak out on how UFC/Dana favoritism of Conor /unfair treatment toward the fighters and it is the fighters responsibility to be unity and fight back UFC - true, but the voice to spread such ALSO the responsibility of the media. Remember you are the voices and have the influence - do the right things and cut out the drama. It is a respectful sport!.
They climbed into the cage to hit Conor because Conor sucker punched his brother inside the cage. If Conor had not thrown the punch they wouldnt have gone after him.
And if khabib hadn't hulk smashed Dillon danis khabib would be giving a post fight speech and a belt in the cage instead of taking away from his best performance by acting like a barbaric moron. Khabib started it bruh.
@@poplarbar5059 Exactly. That is the unbiased truth. If Khabib did not jump out of the octagon then there would have been NO BRAWL. Period.
@@readcastor2977 Go look up what unbiased means
Ass Blaster.. And if Conor's team hadn't been poking a bear they wouldn't have got slapped ... The fact that one man took on the whole McCucklet clan "+ Drake" should be celebrated as a win for manhood , but you sit too pee types would never understand
Khabib started it all
The thing is if Conor never punched the guy on the side of the cage he might have never been attacked by the others and the media wouldn't have made him out to be as big of a victim as they did ( that's pulled back a little more now). It's also interesting because Conors purse wasn't held from him and isn't being told he could or will be fired. People bringing this stuff up I think are only trying to further prove the double standard. Also in response to Chaels point I'm pretty sure the guy on top the cage was one of Khabibs corner men that had entered the ring prior to Khabib jumping the fence because the fight had ended.
Now how smart your media is...no wonder you guys been misslead by your own media .
Some people are saying that the media is not reporting Conor throwing the first punch because the public understands that he is the industry's cash cow and meal ticket. They understand that some of the media will do anything to keep him and his image intact in order to keep the sport going.
lol what image after the dolly incident? really, that thing was much worse than this. This is pathetic.
Even the media are hugging them nuts.
Another khabib apologist here folks
@@poplarbar5059 How are them nuts?
No...it's called making a really simple distinction between right, wrong, and worse. Why is this so difficult?
some are but you are bias
@@qazsmith113 Explain how I'm bias from my comment...
Khabib started the brawl, Conor also took an active part in it (SIMPLE as that). Media spinning narrative that Conor was purely a victim is wrong and it's your job to cover ALL angles, not just responding to criticism that you receive per video. How bout make ONE video laying out all the sides of the story instead of trying to argue with viewers and critics per topic. This situation is not as complicated as everyone makes it out to be and takes away from upcoming fights smh.
For me I don’t even blame Conor for hitting that dude, I just wanted it to be reported accurately and it went on for a few days with certain outlets stating Conor just standing there
Well Luke just joined Ariel and Chael in the "I'm a Conor Dick-rider club". Seriously, do they not see the hypocrisy in this situation. Conor is not a victim in the situation, if anything he was an instigator. If you withhold Khabib's money then withhold Conor too.
Too late
Think they all just disagree with the whole Khabib sympathy act. I ain't mad about Khabibs actions, it was 'talk shit get hit'. But now even after he's still whining about what conor said. Brendan Schaub said it best you don't get a free pass cos of where you're from
Please show us where he's even talking about it ? twitter.com/teamkhabib I'll wait ...
@@thepeoplesaffronttojudea5280 his big long post on insta I'm sure you've read it already
everyone is just mad that khabib couldnt keep his shit together haha..if he just got up raised his hands and got his belt put on him in front of the whole world it would have done far more damage to conor and his team all this bullshit !! its funny people cant see this
The origin of the conflict "INSIDE" the cage was Conor's first sucker punch! When he did that, Khabib's teammate jumped over the cage to protect their guy. Conor punched a second guy who was just going towards him also unprovoked. LUKE what would you do if someone suddenly suckered punch your wife, or kids or mom while they are not looking with two punches. Would you stand there and just watch them get beaten up?!?!?!?
So you're saying what Conor did was okay then because he did that when he saw someone jump at his teammates and try to hurt them
Doji-San i'm honestly suprised that people with your intelligence can even manage to get dressed in the morning !!! go cry in your pillow and cuddle your khabib poster
Ken Hernandez -
there's a difference between hitting the guy who hit your family, versus suckerpunching the guy next to you because your friend outside the cage is fighting
@Doji-san .... you are some next level dumbass, why would Lukes Mum or Wife be jumping into a cage you utter fool, your example is ludicrous, during a brawl outside the cage people start jumping inside the cage where they have no right to be so whatever happens to them is their responsibility for initiating the action of entering the cage ... Lukes Mum didn't enter the cage ...... your example is pathetic
except the guy that attacked conor said he would do so prior to the fight
Nobody from Khabib’s team “spilled into the ring” before Conor punched Abubakar. (Just clearing that up).
Except Abubakar who shouldn't of been there idc for what reason (Just clearing that up)
You're blind or drunk
Jonathan Scott he was a corner man. Both corners were allowed to enter once the fight ended. So he wasn’t in the cage illegally.
Luke, here's what's getting so buried in this mess:
The media (mainstream especially) isn't:
1) Pointing out that Khabib's cousin was actually trying to get out of the cage, when Conor sucker punched him. Khabib's cousin was NOT going after Conor initially. Clear as day on the video.
2) Calling Conor's behavior out as escalating the situation. They are instead portraying him as a victim, when again, he sparked a fistfight inside the cage.
You don't have to take our word for it. Take it from one of the most respected minds in the sport, Firas Zahabi. He dropped some mad wisdom on his recent podcast and explained it beautifully. Here's where Firas explains it: czcams.com/video/OPTYSIJBEI4/video.html
A fighter has a right to expect personal safety within the cage outside of the fight. Fact. Kabob assualts a civilian. Fact. Kabob's crony brother scales the fence. Fact. An area he has no right to be in. Fact. McTapper clips him with a hook. Fact. You and your buddies go and attack a police officer and then you can aggressively jump in his cruiser and hit me back with some of your sweet logic once his partner caps you in the face. Any person affiliated with an aggressive party and moving towards me in an aggressive manner in an area they have no right to be and that I should reasonably consider to be my safe space is getting lit up. Fuck you ppls dumb as fuck
I'm pretty sure Connor jumped out of a cage going after Jose Aldo once before. Double standard at it finest.
because the other guys in the team wouldnt have laid into gonner afterwards???? D'uh!
Except the guy admitted it was pre planned..So what are you talking about?
lolol probably something in relation to the allowances gonner has had ALL ALONG larry. yeah that'd probably be my next nail in the gonnercoffin.
Who said it was pre planned and what exactly did he say, did he say that they were gonna physically punch conor and beat him up in the cage after?
Teddy Holiday ur a idiot dude im sorry, if u dont get that and why its logical then thats on u my friend
Khabib's guy might have been jumping out of the octagon to help restrain Khabib who he saw went mad or to defend him given that he jumped into Conor's camp.
Keeping things short, I think they were two separate scenarios. What's missing, is the two guys entering the cage to hit Connor. They would not have entered the cage if Connor didn't sucker punch him. Connor clearly was attacking, the guy was trying to leave the cage and wasn't even looking at him, NOT hitting in self defence as Chael says.
Kel Gee the guy was entering the cage before McGregor hit the guy
@@RedDevilSkillz I just saw a different camera angle. I thought the guy was leaving the cage to the mellee outside the cage, after seeing the other angle, it turns out the guy was grabbing Connor's leg to prevent him from going out (I don't know why nobody mentions this). OK, it now makes sense why Connor punched him.
This has nothing to do with MMA but your technical development is to be commended. Your audio and video stuff is above and beyond. I am a big fan of several MMA journalists but you are my favorite because of your attention to quality of "broadcast". Keep on keeping on, man.
Big part of the"story" was told by the live broadcast commentators, saying how Conor was the victim and got jumped without knowing what's going on. Other members of MMA media portrayed that too. But clearly that wasn't true. Idk if these same ppl (commentators/media) have corrected themselves after we got to see the other videos released after that but that's probably why ppl are complaining
You can argue that the two guys who jumped into the cage only jumped in after Conor threw an unprovoked punch to their teammate sitting on top of the fence. If those guys who jumped in get punished, you would think Conor should also. People are cool with Conor wanting to jump out to help his team, he was pulled back but that's an argument for the guys jumping into the cage to defend their teammate after Conor swung his punch. By the way, Chael is wrong. The guy on the fence wasn't being aggressive, so he can shove it up his ass.
They were jumping over to attack Conors teammates, dipshit.
@@ryanfranks9441 So when Conor says he would not only beat his opponents but also take their teammates out, he doesn't mean any of it because when a real Gangster jumps in the middle of Conor's team, there's a problem.
stop lying dude, you look like a child
@@ryanfranks9441 You don't have to believe me. There's video of Conor even saying that to previous opponents.
Didn't your parents whip your ass for telling fibs?
Luke doesn't get that both Khabib & unbiased fans are annoyed by the media ignoring that Conor initiated the fight in the cage with Khabibs teammates. All you heard was that Khabibs teammates were cowards for hitting a unsuspecting McGregor. By throwing the 1st punch in the cage & deserving of anything that happened to him.
I believe the whole “Connor threw the 1st punch” stems from the fact that Dana White stood up there and proclaimed that Connor didn’t do anything and was just blindsided and jumped out of nowhere when that’s an inaccurate statement. Connor got fucked up because he blasted dude on the cage 1st and got blindsided by his homies as a result. Khabib jumping out of the cage is a separate incident.
This is the best analysis of the whole situation. Great stuff.
Khabib's guy might have been jumping out of the octagon to help restrain Khabib who he saw went mad or to defend him given that he went mad and jumped alone into Conor's camp (that was shouting abuse at him the whole time). And Conor still attacked him. So once Khabib jumped out of the octagon "all bets are off" and Conor can punch whoever he wants for whatever reason or without it? GTFOH
Oh "Conor just fought four rounds and who knows if he had his wits about him?" Khabib also fought the same four rounds and was provoked and abused by Danis the whole time and after the fight (I bet you love that and it is "genius and talented") and by all of them for weeks before (while you cheered). And let's not forget that Conor attacked Khabib and his friends first, with a f**king dolly, does it mean that "all bets are off" for Khabib since then? GTFOH
alec b your right i agree abu bakr the guy jumping on cage was holding papakha hat and looking in the opposite direction to connor furthemore zubair ran around connor first saw what happened then attacked Connor but connor got some sweet left hands and then the guy in red enters sees his boys getting hit by Connor returns the favour .
Basically khabib might have ignited the flames but connor added to the fuel, i will also say the media and the ufc where hella bias and antagnosing towards khabib during the buildup treated him like second class fighter and are doing it now by downplaying his performace by saying connor had two year layoff yh their right two years to prepare for khabib.
At that point, Khabib jumped out of the cage and 2 other guys hit Danis in the back of the head. Conor probably thought, and understandably so, that they were gonna attack him too
Brandon Mackall Gosh, there was such a mess of people down there below the cage at that point, no way anyone could see what was really going on there from above. Khabib's dude was jumping out of the cage with that afro hat in his hand not even looking at Conor, hardly an attack mode, quite reasonable to assume that he just wanted to calm Khabib down or keep him safe given that Khabib lost it. And Danis was surrounded by Conor's people and security that pulled everyone away from each other in no time.
Alec B dis you see the smirk and smile when listening to chael sonnen
Alec B no they didn't. You need to rewatch some clips. Danis and Khabib were separated but Danis got attacked from behind and hit in the back of the head. That's why they say he left wobbly. And if Conor could see Danis get attacked by Khabib, then I'm sure he could still see him while they were being separated
Whoever was talking in the background saying Khabib's team jumping into the cage is not justified to help defend one of their guy from Conor sucker punch attacks is a coward. He would probably watch his wife get punched by some other guy and not do anything about it.
So what Conor did is Justified because he only did that after he saw khabib beating up one of his teammates
Doji-San I saw the guy climbing the octagon long before mcgregor punched him, he was on his way in.
@@kenhernandez5450 they seem to forget that khabib started all of it
Nice! i have been so confused about this fact!! well said Luke, some big names out there spewing that out in podcasts?
Great to see a nice short vid and not an hour long so I don't even bother watching, and your someone who's opinion I value, deffo do some short vids like this just as cheal p
Calls people "Donks".. Wears a RM jacket... The irony.
Hey donk, it's wears not where's.
@@butchwcassidy A spelling error, the worst internet mistake one can make.
But you still got caught in the act of implying that Luke Thomas was a donk when you made a grade 1 grammatical error... The irony.
dipshit
@@nimbusxd91 LeL
You meant preceded by not followed by...
Yes, they corrected that...
They say you can't blame khabib for his reaction to something that happened months and weeks before but McGregor reacts to khabib attacking his people on the spot and he's the bad guy again.
While I entirely agree with the premise being put forth here, I did notice that Chael's entire argument seems to revolve around Conor "being exactly where he was supposed to be." Meanwhile, he basically tells us on a daily basis that it's "ALWAYS illegal, no matter what" for a fighter to jump up on top of the cage. So, considering Conor was sitting on top of said cage when he threw the punch, which is it?
Clearly, both parties are guilty here. Now, can we actually move on from this nonsense and stop blowing it out of proportion?
Conors thought process was he jumped up on the cage to back his team up, the security guard grabbed him, he could of went over but saw people pushing and punching and hesitated restraining himself a bit, he turned his head and saw Khabibs teammate on the cage and punched him to feel like he was having his teams back in the team conor vs team Khabib brawl. He deserves some blame and punishment, Khabib jumping into the crowd was the main reason for the brawl so he deserves the biggest punishment hopefully 6 months or less and 10-20 % of 2 million. He can come back and defend his belt May June or July
McGregor is way too important to the livelihood of MMA media and MMA journalists, they will never outwardly criticize him for fear of being blackballed or publicly ridiculed by him or his team. I don't blame Luke when he has takes like this, he has to protect his job first and foremost. There is nothing Conor can do for the MMA media to strongly criticize him.
What?
NotoriousVC: I completely agree with you. It's an unspoken, you can't speak against Conor because he is a cash cow and if you do you run the risk of getting black balled-so instead of speaking against him they speak for him-no matter what he does. I'm eager to see what happens when his star power burns out-----and it will if he keeps losing-----and he will because the blueprint to beat him is to tire him out and take his back. I'm eager to see if the media will turn on him or just toss him.
Wow, I'm almost always agree with you. But you are wrong about this. The media dropped the ball in discussing Connors involvement and was heavily blaming only khabib.
That guy had no business being in the cage. Period.
all we're saying IF it's ok to sucker punch a guy who "seems" like he was going to attack your brother then OK for Khabib to punch a guy who wasl calling him over and trying to get to him and it's ok for the teamamtes to sucker punch Conor u can't blame'em they saw their friend getting sucker punched
I am confused why we are still talking about it. Gawd.
For real. People are gonna milk this 20 second or so scuffle for as long as they possibly can. Almost a dead horse at this point.
Biff Seriously, a couple of pro fighters slapped each other around a bit and no one is hurt. It is not like they jumped a pregnant woman in the street (or cut people up with glass and a dolly). Yeah, yeah it is bad, everyone agrees, it could obviously have easily resulted in universe imploding, we all agree. But come. the f**k. on. it didn't so let's move on like we did with the f**king bus & dolly and leave it to whatever f**king commission investigates this without Luke pouring the fuel into the fire to get likes and views. Do some real MMA journalism for once, you already spent the whole previous month fainting on camera out of pure admiration for Conor cos he said "your rat father licks asses to Chechens in mosques" (what a sublime and rare talent!) to a Dagestani guy, do some real work now, I am tired of cringing.
Because Khabib fanboys love to play victim
Anvil00Horror __ I think Dillon Danis is still the GOAT at this lol. And Conor's fans are fighting really hard to retain that "we are pure victims in this" status lol. Judging by how hard, they love being victims even more lol.
Joe Booth And so have you lol. And one does not exclude the other, take a logic class LOL.
Thank you Luke for '' fresh breath '' of objective journalism!
The Media tried to show Conor as a victim here and that he didn't have anything to do with it, they just forgot to mention, that this all happen because Conor/Team was just talking too much bs and UFC could have done a LIL better job in stopping this bs in the first place, you can't expect that everyone will take it easy as Mayweather some people will take this in the wrong way and start something stupid like Khabib did on the end. He shouldn't have jumped, I get it, but sometimes shit happens...
Connor dont excist, he`s never excisted
You must not call someone you hate by their real name Mr Grey, you should have started with an CAPITOL
A You would probably struggle if you wrote something in a foreign language too.
Peter Thomas that's all well and good but I dont understand what you are trying to say by this comment
this comment section is horrendous.
Serengeti don’t go to the Instagram posts lmao
Luke YOU ARE STILL confused. No one said connor started the brawl. BUT HE INJECTED HIMSELF INTO THE BRAWL when he sucker punched the corner man who wasn't even looking at him.
Reading these comments and seeing how almost everyone who’s defending Khabib can’t seem to spell “Connor”s name right...yet they manage to spell a hard ass name like Khabib right..that kind of tells you something doesn’t it! Objectivity is missing from these sheep. Such is life.
LUKE CONOR THREW THE FIRST PUNCH FIRST THOUGH! THE MEDIA ISNT TALKING ABOUT IT AND EVERYTHING IS CONORS FAULT!!
Luke putting in work well done
He had a reason to deck that guy. They both had their reasons behind it.
That's what people don't understand.
Both men were caught in a moment. It was heated. It was wild.
I do find it funny that people made it seem like Khabib saw Conor hit his teammates and then just decided to go attack Conor's teammate. It's weird.
The media and the UFC blew this brawl out of proportion. It was a small skirmish that resulted in no injures. Fine both fighters and move on.
Yea the guy was jumping over to participate in what khabib was already doing... Conor was stepping in to stop him.
Khabib, and two other guys from his team were outside throwing punches. That's 3 people before Conor did anything. Im sure that guy was just jumping on the cage to get a better look.
You're crazy! The guy was jumping over the cage to diffuse the situation with Khabib and Danis when Conor cowardly suckered punched him. Conor could have knocked him out and have him fall off the cage and break his neck! He should be the one pressing charge.
@@doji-san Yeah he was jumping the cage to go to a fight and talk to Khabib. Give me a break you don't know what he was going to do. Stop talking shit.
There’s a photo showing the guy on the cage stopping Conor from mounting the cage. He grabs he’s leg. And he had no right being in the cage in the first place. Mcgregor hits him. So if you think about it mcgregor didn’t even instigate the brawl in the cage. Khabib and he’s team started everything. Not saying Conor is an angel he’s faaaaar from it but Christ just tell it how it is.
That was an employee of the UFC .. Its quite clear , if you dry your eyes, you'll see
That guy sitting on the ring that McGregor punched was in the ring after Khabib won, it was one of his trainer/coaches. He did belong in the ring.
@@thepeoplesaffronttojudea5280 if you dry your eyes 😂😂😂
No proof. You're talking about one of the commission staff with the purple jackets that pulled conor down. Link or you're a liar bro.
All the evidence I need czcams.com/users/RhoadsLockeplaylists AKA sic vic
Your argument about "if one of your teammates is being attacked" isn't valid, security exists for this purpose, and they resolved it within seconds, Conor's actions were illegal indeed(Not to mention the fact that the UFC had turned a blind eye when Conor attacked a Bellator referee and when attacked a bus full of athletes).
“Once one person goes after the other all bets are off” yet Luke ignores the fact that Conor punches a guy and the team retaliate against Conor ie all bets are off. Khabib wasn’t interested in fighting Conor again, the corner weren’t going for Conor initially
It's Khabibs fans Luke don't try to reason with them.
madmax1717 literally all I’m hearing is muh muh muh im the victim
Keep crying delusional Conor fangirl. Wonder what one-liners you will copy and paste next time Conor speaks.
@@Anvil35 blah blah Conor deserved it blah blah it's all good just got the news bye bye khabib
khabib fans love being victims
Says the sissy who's been crying for 5 days straight ...
The brotherhood trying to play victim it’s pathetic
Not as much as Dillon Danis lol.
And Conor's fans are fighting really hard to retain that "we are pure victims in this" status lol. Judging by how hard they love being victims even more lol.
Let's be honest... Khabib started it.. Alright.. But suppose conor wouldn't have punched his teammate.. Everything would've stopped right there.. No more ugly scenes... Khabib and Dillon were stopped from attacking each other..nothing would've happened later... Conors punch made the brawl way worse
“Perspective is reality” quote is timeless.
It exists due to a bunch of lunatic Conor haters.
These people believe in some imaginary guy called Allah. They all have a mental illness. What were you expecting.
Absolute Foreskin Eater
This is exactly the reason. This is tribal and political, like an election
You're stoned on connor mctappers fats lol
Khabib fans logic: "Luke Thomas is a Conor fan boy shill."
Meanwhile, missing the main point: You don't jump out of the cage to attack someone!
Don't run your hole and not expect shit to pop off. Go outside and interact with real people.
they are all so delusional with hate that its blinded them ! to be honest most of them sound more like Conor haters then real fans of Khabib
@@sexualdookie - Did Conor cross some lines during the pre-fight press conference? Yes.
Does that justify Khabib jumping out of the cage attacking someone in a crowd full of innocent civilians? NO!
Why is this so difficult to understand????
Indeed, you don't jump out of the cage to attack someone! You through dollies through the glass and cut people up instead! Duh.
@@casus4781 - so me pointing out an obvious error on Khabib's part means that I automatically am ok with Conor throwing a dolly even though one has absolutely nothing to do with the other???
Do you realize how absolutely stupid you sound?
The most telling part of that Mama is look at the direction that his cousin was looking when Connor hit him. He wasn't even looking at Connor, it looked to me as if he was going to pull khabib out of the fight when Conor struck him. Which caused the other guys to attack Conor McGregor.
Please excuse the typos, I use voice text while driving
Blaming Khabib for starting it and saying Conor was justified to throw a punch on Khabib's teammate that wasn't attacking Conor is hypocrisy at it's finest! then why is it not justified for other teammates of the dude that got punched to smack the shit out of Conor?? Blatant double standards!!! Khabib started the brawl outside while Conor started it inside the Octagon end of!!!
That guy was grabbing Conor's heel to throw him off the cage SO CONOR DEFENDED HIMSELF AND POPPED HIM
Thats true, im surprised no body mention this fact.
What are u talking about?
No that was the ring guy trying to keep him in the ring what r u talking about?
@@WhiteBoyNick1 yea read the previous replies, it's been discussed already lol
kris mo bullshit that aint what happened
You cant argue with these muslims you may as well talk to their sandles
Hold your horse pal
Yeah, Conor looks up to Muhammad Ali, who is also a Muslim.
morons.
No shit. Somehow ganging up on people its cool and defending your honor. lol
its not racist to talk about muslims.....muslim isnt a race its an idioligy
I don't know that people are claiming that Mr. McGregor's strike was the origin of the UFC 229 melee as much as they are claiming him responsible for the in-ring melee. And please also note that Conor was on standby for Khabib VS Danis. It was not until after Security got involved that Conor got up and got involved.
Finally!!! Thank God your the only media that sees what’s really going on!!! Your spot on and the facts show it!
Hold on you cant criticize conor for punching first when members on Khabibs team posted days earlier on social media that they had planned this.
2- FYI I agree with you in regards to the notion that if a friends of a rival is going in the direction of his friend the first instinct is that he intends to help his friend out , no one ever assumes the best but that same argument could be used against you since McGregor instigated the fight in the octagon (the secondary fight NOT the Khabib vs Denis) Zubaira and the guy in the red shirt (I still don't know who that was) were simply defending their friend, hitting the back of the head of mcgregor was cheap but it hardly calls for an expulsion from UFC esp considering that it was in response to a cheap shot on the cage by McGregor , we can argue until the cows come home about whether or not Khabib's cousin was jumping to help Khabib or to break up the fight but the fact that he was punched first stands .
Luke, it's not just that media and MMA is not talking about Mcgregor's attacked to Khabib's brother but nobody is talking about mediamen broadcasting wrong information deceitfully saying mcgregor was unfairly attacked and nobody told them to apologize
Finally I saw the whole incident.
Conor wanted to join the melee and began climbing the fence...
Than a Khabib teammate comes and wants to climb the fence too (very close to Conor's spot on the fence) and join the melee himself.
Conor made two mistakes there:
1st he should not try to climb anything, just stay in the octagon
2nd if you want to climb the fence and you see an enemy that did not engage you and you don't want him to join Khabib to beat up your guys, don't punch him, GRAB him. But I guess it's the heat of the moment.
I don't know... This whole shit stinks. Fans from both sides are hating each other and my favourite MMA media people old Chael and Luke happens to be take hate from both sides.
Great video bro!!!
Khabib has even apologized because he did start it...everything else was very unlikely to happen...without the first act.
dude come on you are a smart dude no one say that conor punch is the reason that started the fight but conor punch is the reason why he get punched in the first place.
Wtf man!? Facts are facts, and the media is massively down playing what Conors involvement was.
No one would have attacked Conor if he wouldn't have started a fight. Media doesn't want to diminish Conors star power. Its fucking obvious!
What crack are you smoking dude? Can you not count? 1 comes before 2 and 2 comes before 3? Let me try and talk slow for you.... 1) Khabib illegally jumped out of the cage first and fly eagle kicked Conner's corner outside the ring. The Brawl and first kicks and punches start now! 2) Khabibs brother illegally jumps into the cage with Conner. They both jump on the cage top, Khabibs brother who should not be in the cage period, touches Conner's leg hanging over the cage top. Conner feels this, turns and punches the brother. 3) Two more of Khabibs team members jump illegally into the cage to get at Conner after that. Closing argument.... If there was no one attacking Conner's corner outside the ring from Khabib then NONE of Khabibs team would have never illegally jumped into the cage for Conner to punch. They would have not been in the cage! Conner can't punch an invisible man. Lets all be honest here and stop the bullshit. Do you think Khabibs brother jumped into the cage illegally to shake Conner's hand? Tell him good fight? Really? Its called, cause and effect, people. Deal with the truth. Now with that having been said none of this would have ever happened if Khabib had not slapped Conner's friend Arbal months before in the hotel in the back of the head. If this doesn't happen there is no buss attack because there is no reason for Conner to jump on a plane to retaliate. Cause and effect...
Great post, guys! Awesome! Thanks!
Fair point by Luke regarding the race to be 1st, not necessarily accurate, regarding content production. I would add though, that the main way for fans to discourage that approach is to take those personalities to task when they misrepresent the event.
When u mention "origin" is the moment ur argument starts to take on water
Someone needs to get on top of making the "Conor Shot First" StarWars themed shirts.
I dont know even if Luke reads these, but this is how I saw it. There were 2 brawls. 1 outside and 1 inside the cage. The one outside no matter what was said to Khabib, it is all him to blame. The inside is another thing. The dude that got punched by Conor was inside the cage (one of the people in the fighter's corner) and then tried to jump the cage to get to Khabib (either to stop him or to help him, we dont know). If he wasnt punched the brawl inside the cage would never have happened. He wasnt hostile towards Conor until then, which is obvious by the fact that when he got punched he turned around to see who did it. And the other next 2 ones wouldnt have attacked Conor either. So the point that the media is missing is that the brawls were two. Each brawl started by each or the 2.
Luke CUT THE BULLSHIT
Let me explain. Nobody is claiming that Conor STARTED the brawl.
People in the media pretending that it was so TRAGIC that someone punched Conor in the octagon and acting like he was a COMPLETE VICTIM of a terrible attack.
When in ACTUALITY Conor threw the punch that initiated the attack on him IN THE OCTAGON. If you punch someone you should fully expect an equal or greater reaction.
Conor was no victim.
Dude attacks your bus with 30 guys breaking a window... all bets are off. Looking at your logic all bets were off since the bus thing.
Luke Thomas wearing his high school letterman jacket. No fucks given.....what a savage
I was thinking «preceded by, preceded by», and bless the second mic dude for correcting Luke in the exact wording I would have used. Also, I agree with the broader sentiment of this segment.
It’s is not the origin of the melee but it’s the origin of Khabibs corner attacking Conor, I believe it was Matt Serra or Bisping that said it if everyone follows your logic of “if your friend is being attacked feel free to blindshot anyone associated with them the whole arena would of been in a brawl”.
The comments here are great! This is why we need the crowd sourced wisdom of fans to balance the false balance in news reporting. I find MMA fans (minus casuals / Conor fans) to be some of of the most honest (and sometimes down right funny!) fans of any sport out there. Good to see the people correct the record!
The origin of the whole thing was never in question. The push back, was from people selling the story, that there was no reason Conor was attacked. If your gonna talk about Conor getting attacked have the decently to tell the whole story.
I really lost respect for you on this one Luke, you guys are so biased it's insane, your defending Conor, attacking the guy, because his team is being attacked, Ok, but then you say the guys who attack Conor are unjustified?? That is a dirty double standard!!
You are correct, I think what made everyone flip out more was even on Monday when Ariel did his show he absolutely said “Conor was just standing there and was attacked” then as everyone jumped on him he kept downplaying the public and freaking out about the public reacting that way.
Ariel needs to first get Conor's balls out of his mouth and rewatch the video in slow motion so he can see that Conor instigated the whole situation inside the cage.
We are just glad that we don't have to rely on official/mainstream media to get our news anymore.
Luke lost all credibility after the Weidman/Mousasi fight. He went on this campaign basically saying Weidman got robbed and that he deserves a rematch (despite the fact Dana said Weidman wouldnt have won the fight regardless of what happened). This convinced me Luke has some sort of special interests to perpetuate certain narratives.
It's hilarious how biased him and his (dipshit) co-host are. He says all bets are off, but then they are blaming the other two guys for coming after Conor after he sucker punches Khabib's cousin (Abubakar) on the fence. MMA media is a joke.
Here's the points that you are missing Luke, with all due respect:
1) The medias bias is real when comparing the 2 fighters, and they try to dictate where incident timelines start and end. For example, when looking at UFC 229, most media outlets disregard the bus incident as an argument to justify Khabib's anger towards Conor. There is an expectation of starting from a clean slate every day, what's in the past is in the past and doesn't justify anything that happened after the fight. This is a moral philosophy that some people agree with, some don't. A lot of the media chose to disregard the bus incident and chose the timeline of the Brawl to begin from right after the match was finished. You yourself go on to say that McGregor had a right to atttack because "all bets were off". This is a clear indication that you chose that specific time of Khabib jumping at Danis to say everything goes now. But a lot of people feel that actually, the bets were off a long time ago, when the bus incident happened back in April.
2) Khabib was painted with a bad brush directly after the brawl. He was blamed for his teammates attacking Conor as if he had premeditated and planned this from the very beginning, when all Khabib was thinking about was a one-on-one with Danis. Not saying Khabib isn't in the wrong, but his actions were reactionary, whereas Conor's were premeditated (bus incident).
3) The media was in an uprorar because original UFC footage showed Conor getting sucker punched from behind. When that happened to Conor, it was "a disgrace to the sport", "absolutely disgusting" and there were calls for serious repercussions. When more footage appeared over the weekend from the audience, and showed not just Conor punching a member of Khabib's team on top of the cage, but SUCKER PUNCHING him, Conor is given a pass and his actions are explained away because now it's a "brawl", as you have done in this video. The guy Conor punched wasn't expecting to be punched, and he could have fallen off, broken his neck and died. In the bus attack, glass went into an innocent fighter's eye and he almost went blind. Yet what was horrendous to the media was Conor getting sucker punched, and even if he did get knocked out, he would have landed on the canvas, a much safer place to fall. The media, including yourself regularly repeat that it's horrendous that somebody can attack a fighter that's just done 4 rounds, always using that for Conor, but forgetting that Khabib also went 4 rounds. It's little things like this that lead people to believe that the media bias is skewed towards Conor
Luke you’re missing the point both you and Chael. Conor is not innocent. Period. People are not saying the other two guys are not wrong, but Conor started the shit in the octagon. This you see that? INSIDE THE OCTAGON. If Conor is not wrong because he’s trying to fight for his team, then you could say the same about the other guys who jumped into the octagon to fight for their team. Let fucking focus in the bigger problem of UFC and you the media who says there should be no red lines. Fuck that. For some people, money is not everything. Khabib made his point. There will never be another circus like that again I can assure you. Khabib promised to change the UFC and McGregor’s face on the same night and he did.